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Jun 29, 2009 7:39 PM
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http://www.tv-asahi.co.jp/double/
http://www.toei.co.jp/tv/w/

Translations of the info from the official sites can be found on TV-Nihon's forums. If someone wants to post it here you can, just stick it behind a spoiler tag.

Post any additional pictures (forms, monsters, weapons, etc), speculation, and spoilers behind a spoiler tag please!

Wonder why it starts in September? Someone at TV-N speculates that it's to boost toy sales. With Sentai toy sales dropping at that point in the year, it makes sense for them to begin KR with new toys. Sentai and KR toy sales won't compete as much either, I guess.

If they produce Gaia Memory USB drives, I want to buy one! XD
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Jun 29, 2009 8:46 PM
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I am sure they are going to make it, Susan.

THe USB sticks are a very nice choice of merchandise, because they are cheap to produce and are useful items.

So, I'm I the only one wondering where exactly these usb sticks are "inserted"? XD
And how the two actors "merge" together to become W? XD I think this show will have a lot of fanservice for the girls...
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Jun 29, 2009 9:06 PM
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I checked out pics of the two riders. IKEMEN! ^_^ As usual. ;)
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Jun 29, 2009 9:16 PM
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One of them is dressed like a girl!!!!!!111!!!!11!!!!!!!!eleven!!!!11!!!!!

I fear the "merging" even more now. XD
Jun 30, 2009 12:26 AM
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I'm counting on some fanservice. Like episode 29 of Ryuki, I want to see some near-kisses, flirting and some topless scenes. XD

*starts having dirty "merging" thoughts*

HEEHEE. ^_^

I wonder if it will be one belt, something they hold and insert the USB drives into, or twin belts with mirrored ports? And I'm wondering if it will be possible for them henshin into separate riders as well... Not the only one with that question.


I like the fact that one of them is a "half-boiled" detective and one of them is some kind girly demon-magic-boy. Doesn't the concept of two opposite-personality people occupying the same body sound a bit like Den-O? XD Which goes back to my speculation spoiler above.

No doubt in my mind that Decade will appear at least once in the new series.
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Jun 30, 2009 1:42 AM
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Why am I not impressed with your reaction? XD

This new KR kinda reminds me of a Spice Girls song...

And the girly demon's clothes seem like the ones designed by tetsuya Nomura. But the ones he makes for girls.



I guess they'll have a coreography for the transformation. Like the fusion dance from DBZ XD.

I wonder who'll controll the rider... Or if they are gonna take turns doing it. If so it'll be den-o again. If not, maybe a state of merged conscience?

And what the heck is a half-boiled detective? English fail? Or he just becomes hard (boiled) in the presence of the fire from the demon boy? Gah, the yaoi just keeps showing up!

I wonder if they'll have a love triangle, since there is only one girl in the show. <- Yes, this is me hoping it won't be a yaoi festival.
Jun 30, 2009 7:59 AM
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"Half-boiled" means he wants to be a hard-boiled detective, but he fails at it. XD

You know, a love triangle can work with a guy in love with the girl and a guy in love with a guy. ;)
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I guess so.

Fotunately, we're talking about Toei, and if they aren't modern enough to have strong female riders (or leading female riders and red in sentai), they certainly won't have a gay relationship. But they can and will do stuf that lets the imagination of the fangirls go wild. If you see shounen nowadays you know what I mean.
Jun 30, 2009 3:37 PM
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m4rc0 said:

I wonder if they'll have a love triangle, since there is only one girl in the show. <- Yes, this is me hoping it won't be a yaoi festival.


Kiriyama Renn played in Boys Love II XD
It was only a supporting role, though. ;)
As a Tenimyu actor he'll probably attract some fangirls just like Seto Koji did, but I doubt they will ruin your fun. :)

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The snowball just keeps growing.

I hope they don't overdo the fanservice, because tat might ruin my fun. But I tend to be very patient with this (and other) stuff in modern toku.

What i Tenimyu? An agency?
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What i Tenimyu? An agency?


Prince of Tennis live action musicals. Seto Koji, Renn Kiriyama, Masahiro Inoue and Dori Sakurada (Nogami Koutaro) played there.
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The toku producers must like the PoT musicals... Rio ad Jan from Gekiranger also had a role in one of them.
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As a Tenimyu actor he'll probably attract some fangirls just like Seto Koji did, but I doubt they will ruin your fun. :)



Phhht. Prince of Tennis. WTH is that? XD (Just kidding, I know it)

9 out of 10 fangirls agree: Sato Takeru/Den-O has been the most adorable Kamen Rider to date. =P (This may or may not be an actual statistic, but it is most certainly true that he's absolutely adorable.)

I'm partial to bad boys like Aikawa Hajime and Akiyama Ren, though. ;)

I'm excited to fawn over the new pretty boy riders, though. Ikemen Rider is a great series, eh? XD
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The toku producers must like the PoT musicals... Rio ad Jan from Gekiranger also had a role in one of them.


Tenimyu cast is huge (19 musicals and it's still not finished), a lot of young actors started there, that's why. :)
And about Gekiranger, Manpei Takagi's twin brother Shinpei was in Tenimyu too. XD

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Bad boys? Do you really believe that? XDDDD

Yes, I checked it out at wiki while confirming the info about Rio and Jan. The party is so great that even the twin brothers get a role in a toku series XD

Well you know I'm gonna complain about how the ikemen riders are too scrawny to be super heroes. At least this times it takes two of them to make one. XD
Jun 30, 2009 8:33 PM

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No, of course not. But they're as close as you get, unless you venture in psycho-rider territory. XD
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It kinda was rethorical qustions... My bad for not doing it right.

And everybody knows you favorite fake bad boy is kiriya XDDDDD (please don't kill me!)

Hayato (KR 2) from the first and the next is a bad boy.
Jun 30, 2009 9:23 PM

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... Die.

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Jun 30, 2009 10:10 PM

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Hey, from where I'm seeing it, it looks like soemthing worse than death...
Jul 3, 2009 7:58 AM

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... Die.



Ryuki thing.


Aniway wanted to have seen Decade a bit more but Non stop action do have its price.

Btw he doesn't have red or a color in the same part of the pallet as main color it back to green XD
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I think it's a unique concept, and it's obviously meant to be a tribute to the original series (emphasis on green and black, 2 people who transform, the grasshopper motif, and if I recall, one of the belts even has Cyclone in its name). I'll check it out, but I hope its early start doesn't cripple Decade's story.
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^Decade will apparently be only 30 episodes (which was confirmed in an interview with Tsukasa's actor), and will end before W starts.

So in one way, yes it will be crippling Decade's story... but the two series won't overlap in airing.
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^Decade will apparently be only 30 episodes (which was confirmed in an interview with Tsukasa's actor), and will end before W starts.

So in one way, yes it will be crippling Decade's story... but the two series won't overlap in airing.


I knew they wouldn't overlap, but yeah, Decade's story is probably gonna suffer sadly enough...
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Decade's story won't suffer because of W. It i suffering because of the writers. The last world was ep 19-20. They had 10 episodes to develop the plot. Ad they could have devloped it litle by little during the worlds. But anyway I'm in ep 24 and no sign ofa plot. Ep 25 will conclude the arc so I guess we won't have a plot until 26...

It wasn't lack of time. Many anime tell good stories in 13 ep. Man in 26. Decade had 30...

And I don't see the grasshopper motif. Nor how 2 people merging is a tribute to Ichigo and Niigo, who were different persons and interacted very little.

The belt is very different from the old ones.

They had Decade to make the tribtes, I think they are going all original with W
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Decade's story won't suffer because of W. It i suffering because of the writers. The last world was ep 19-20. They had 10 episodes to develop the plot. Ad they could have devloped it litle by little during the worlds. But anyway I'm in ep 24 and no sign ofa plot. Ep 25 will conclude the arc so I guess we won't have a plot until 26...

It wasn't lack of time. Many anime tell good stories in 13 ep. Man in 26. Decade had 30...

And I don't see the grasshopper motif. Nor how 2 people merging is a tribute to Ichigo and Niigo, who were different persons and interacted very little.

The belt is very different from the old ones.

They had Decade to make the tribtes, I think they are going all original with W


It's just the fact that there were two Riders in the original series, and they both were called Kamen Rider in the original show (until Hongo returned, then they started referring the 2nd one by Nigo).

And it's really not grasshopper-related, you're right. But it looks a lot more insectoid than anything since Kabuto.

And yeah, the belt is totally different. But one of the "Gaia Memories" is called the Cyclone Gaia Memory, and the Cyclone was the name of Ichigo's bike. Plus, wind seems to have been part of how Ichigo transformed, and this show has a plot synopsis involving a city powered by wind. It's a stretch, but I don't think it's just coincidence.

Maybe it's just some groundless fanboy conjecture. :P
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After seeing some magazine scan from Henshin-attitude i was wondering if the rider kick must be like that (looks like we are going to see another body horror folks).

And the first two monster that were shown are quite... interesting...

Well the scans sure makes me more eager in watching the show
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I just wonder what the 2nd Rider is going to be like.
"KAMEN RIDER...TRIPLE!"

I hope W will be able to seperate into 2 Riders and well..please the fans, and have them fight each other. :P
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some images:

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I love the kaijin with the dinosaur head for a body. That's so old-school. :3

And yes, I smell yaoi in that first pic. Guh.
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For some reason, the monsters remind me of sentai. Especially, that dinosaur head-thing.
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And yes, I smell yaoi in that first pic. Guh.


Fist pic: *squeal* They're ADORABLE! ^_^

I smell BL and it smell DELICIOUS. =D
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That first pic probably made Ishinomori cry.....WHEN DID KR BECOME GAY? No offense to gay people....but damn....
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Heh. I kind of agree with you. I'm all for having an openly gay rider, or at least a gay side-character. But I think a hero series needs to to balance it out with a no-nonsense, heterosexual man. XD
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Hey, gay men can be manly. I learnt that with One Piece XD

But Toei would never dare to write a gay hero. They prefer to use those fangirl baiting undertones. They have the same effect and don't loose the male audience. And don't attract criticism for using a gay man in a kids show.
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more images:

W will probably have a lot of forms, since they are already showing some in the promo. Or those are probably small stuff plotwise just like Kabuto's cast off form.

I know somebody in this club that will like the last image. XD

The following question remans: he wears a scarf, a half-cape or the lovechild of them both?
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That's obviously a half-cape.

Ah ha! So they both wear a belt! I was wondering about how their henshin would work.
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It's started in Japan (aired a couple hours ago). I just realized I could have watched it streaming live using TVAnts (or KeyholeTV). Damnit! >_<

Anyways, looking forward to episode 1's sub though I think I might hold off on it for awhile. Wonder if this one will run the whole 49-50 episodes?
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Seems someone posted it on YouTube somewhere. Got to see the live stream. I won't say much now, but I was hooked within the first 30 seconds. The opening is also sex.
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Seems someone posted it on YouTube somewhere. Got to see the live stream. I won't say much now, but I was hooked within the first 30 seconds. The opening is also sex.


Wait... literal sex? XD I mean, we all know this is the first 100% homosexual Kamen Rider series.... XD
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Wait... literal sex? XD I mean, we all know this is the first 100% homosexual Kamen Rider series.... XD

Well i guess it wouldn't hurt if I put it up here.

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I have to admit, the OP is very cool.
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Love the opening.
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Yeah...the opening was quite kick-ass. Erased some doubts I had for the show, although it's nowhere near as epic as "Journey Through The Decade" (but then again...that's Gackt). That giant vehicle at the end reminds me a lot of the Mach Road that belonged to Barom-One....wait a minute.

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A vehicle similar to the Mach Road, two boys transforming into one hero....my goodness, it's all a tribute to Choujin Barom-One! Another Ishinomori work getting acknowledged/ripped off? Interesting move, Toei. Interesting move...
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Didn't the rider with two halves remind you of metalder? I mean, he even has a red/blue form...
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Didn't the rider with two halves remind you of metalder? I mean, he even has a red/blue form...


Wait, if it reminds you of Metalder...then it's supposed to homage Kikaider (Metalder was made to be a Kikaider homage, after all)! Gasp! Another Ishinomori tribute! They just keep piling them onto this show. What's next, red suits with yellow buttons and scarfs a la Cyborg 009? o.0
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A vehicle similar to the Mach Road, two boys transforming into one hero....my goodness, it's all a tribute to Choujin Barom-One! Another Ishinomori work getting acknowledged/ripped off? Interesting move, Toei. Interesting move...


Eh? I though Barom one was created by Takao Saito? I guess you are right about the vehicle shape, they do have some noticeable similarities...

Some thought...
-Damn the OP was just awesome i can't wait for November for the Single release.
-I guess from Den-O onwards (except decade) the rider would have some kind of mecha to assist them...
-The first battle, Luna Joker ability was a bit interesting (still can't beat "Final Form Ride") but still awesome.
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A vehicle similar to the Mach Road, two boys transforming into one hero....my goodness, it's all a tribute to Choujin Barom-One! Another Ishinomori work getting acknowledged/ripped off? Interesting move, Toei. Interesting move...


Eh? I though Barom one was created by Takao Saito? I guess you are right about the vehicle shape, they do have some noticeable similarities...


Gah, you're right. The toy I have for some reason has it trademarked under IshiPro (Ishinomori's company, of course) for some reason.
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Luna memory = Gomu Gomu no Mi.

THe opening sequence was very cool. I agree with everything Momo wrote, except for the kick. I didn't like it very much. But that is a minor detail

And Akiko might be a badass girl. Too soon to discard that. I'm happy with the female cast so far, all cute XD

How big is that billiard? I mean the "car" went pretty far.

I liked how Shoutaro is very serious but Akiko goes and breaks the tension and his cool. I think they'll develop a nice chemistry.

And the coreography was just awesome. That suit actor is the man.
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....It was a HELL of a lot better than I expected. The opening segment screams "freaking awesome" when Double virtually single-handedly takes down an entire building. Shotaro and Phillip seem like interesting leads, but I've got a feeling the detective motif may become overshadowed as the show goes on. I can't explain why I think so, I just have that vibe. Akiko is a bit annoying, but nowhere near as awful as similar characters such as Wataru's roommate from Kiva. >.> I like the soundtrack, the henshin gimmick, the fight sequences, the whole shebang. I'll stick with this show, after all.
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