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Jul 9, 2014 1:19 AM
#151
Nicole said: It's sad when a new person comes along and tries to argue this. This site has a lot of just plain old sexists who will always try to portray feminism in whatever negative light they can, they will say extreme minorities represent the majority in order to counter any points you can make. Honestly you're completely wasting your time, I've been there, done that, can't really be bothered any more. I'm not going to lie, i like see how upset they get. I makes me laugh. |
Jul 9, 2014 1:35 AM
#152
| Modern Feminism has done more damage to feminism than any misogynist could ever do.... Basically it's been overrun by professional victims who will cry MISOGYNY and PATRIARCHY at literally anything.... Don't believe me? Ask Suey Park or Anita Sarkeesian. |
Jul 9, 2014 1:53 AM
#153
JustALEX said: Modern Feminism has done more damage to feminism than any misogynist could ever do.... Basically it's been overrun by professional victims who will cry MISOGYNY and PATRIARCHY at literally anything.... Don't believe me? Ask Suey Park or Anita Sarkeesian. That chick Anita Sarkeesian makes me want to rage, seriously lol. I don't think I would refer to myself as a "modern feminist". I am just a woman who wants to be treated the same as everyone else. I don't hate men, I'm not scared of men...I actually have more male friends than I do female. |
Jul 9, 2014 1:55 AM
#154
kitamurashi said: JustALEX said: Modern Feminism has done more damage to feminism than any misogynist could ever do.... Basically it's been overrun by professional victims who will cry MISOGYNY and PATRIARCHY at literally anything.... Don't believe me? Ask Suey Park or Anita Sarkeesian. That chick Anita Sarkeesian makes me want to rage, seriously lol. I don't think I would refer to myself as a "modern feminist". I am just a woman who wants to be treated the same as everyone else. I don't hate men, I'm not scared of men...I actually have more male friends than I do female. >I actually have more male friends than I do female. Is anyone here suprised? Honestly? |
Jul 9, 2014 1:58 AM
#155
| @adotsukixenxio You're right. No one is. I just wanted to say, that's all, sorry. |
Jul 9, 2014 2:08 AM
#156
kitamurashi said: JustALEX said: Modern Feminism has done more damage to feminism than any misogynist could ever do.... Basically it's been overrun by professional victims who will cry MISOGYNY and PATRIARCHY at literally anything.... Don't believe me? Ask Suey Park or Anita Sarkeesian. That chick Anita Sarkeesian makes me want to rage, seriously lol. I don't think I would refer to myself as a "modern feminist". I am just a woman who wants to be treated the same as everyone else. I don't hate men, I'm not scared of men...I actually have more male friends than I do female. You could be a humanist.... People who genuinely care about all humans regardless of gender. I personally think modern feminism is misguided and being led by the wrong people. Feminism meant a lot in the old days of women suffrage, but that's not what we have today. |
Jul 9, 2014 4:38 AM
#157
Jul 9, 2014 4:55 AM
#158
JustALEX said: Modern Feminism has done more damage to feminism than any misogynist could ever do.... Basically it's been overrun by professional victims who will cry MISOGYNY and PATRIARCHY at literally anything.... Don't believe me? Ask Suey Park or Anita Sarkeesian. Anita Sarkeesian is right though. :V |
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Jul 9, 2014 4:57 AM
#159
dankickyou said: Anita also didn't play video games until 2010, and suffers from confirmation bias. :VJustALEX said: Modern Feminism has done more damage to feminism than any misogynist could ever do.... Basically it's been overrun by professional victims who will cry MISOGYNY and PATRIARCHY at literally anything.... Don't believe me? Ask Suey Park or Anita Sarkeesian. Anita Sarkeesian is right though. :V |
Jul 9, 2014 5:08 AM
#160
Heredity said: dankickyou said: Anita also didn't play video games until 2010, and suffers from confirmation bias. :VJustALEX said: Modern Feminism has done more damage to feminism than any misogynist could ever do.... Basically it's been overrun by professional victims who will cry MISOGYNY and PATRIARCHY at literally anything.... Don't believe me? Ask Suey Park or Anita Sarkeesian. Anita Sarkeesian is right though. :V You dont have to be a hardcore gamer to call out stuff in the industry, just like you dont have to be a pro athlete to talk about sports. Plus, regardless of her bias, many of the things she is calling out the industry for is very true. plus, anything that makes gamers rage and moan like little bitches is fine by me :V |
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Jul 9, 2014 9:24 AM
#161
dankickyou said: Heredity said: dankickyou said: JustALEX said: Modern Feminism has done more damage to feminism than any misogynist could ever do.... Basically it's been overrun by professional victims who will cry MISOGYNY and PATRIARCHY at literally anything.... Don't believe me? Ask Suey Park or Anita Sarkeesian. Anita Sarkeesian is right though. :V You dont have to be a hardcore gamer to call out stuff in the industry, just like you dont have to be a pro athlete to talk about sports. Plus, regardless of her bias, many of the things she is calling out the industry for is very true. plus, anything that makes gamers rage and moan like little bitches is fine by me :V Anita is the devil, she's completely and utterly wrong, there is nothing in the game community at all which is against female characters, you see the real reason is...as Ubisoft put it "it would be too expensive to animate female models and hire female voice actors." You see since the female body is 10x more complex than the male body, it costs 100x more to animate a female character in a game, which is just too much money for the gaming industry which is only a small industry after all. :) |
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Jul 9, 2014 9:38 AM
#162
Nicole said: dankickyou said: Heredity said: dankickyou said: Anita also didn't play video games until 2010, and suffers from confirmation bias. :VJustALEX said: Modern Feminism has done more damage to feminism than any misogynist could ever do.... Basically it's been overrun by professional victims who will cry MISOGYNY and PATRIARCHY at literally anything.... Don't believe me? Ask Suey Park or Anita Sarkeesian. Anita Sarkeesian is right though. :V You dont have to be a hardcore gamer to call out stuff in the industry, just like you dont have to be a pro athlete to talk about sports. Plus, regardless of her bias, many of the things she is calling out the industry for is very true. plus, anything that makes gamers rage and moan like little bitches is fine by me :V Anita is the devil, she's completely and utterly wrong, there is nothing in the game community at all which is against female characters, you see the real reason is...as Ubisoft put it "it would be too expensive to animate female models and hire female voice actors." You see since the female body is 10x more complex than the male body, it costs 100x more to animate a female character in a game, which is just too much money for the gaming industry which is only a small industry after all. :) Female assassins are too hard to make! D: |
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Jul 9, 2014 9:58 AM
#163
dankickyou said: Nicole said: dankickyou said: Heredity said: dankickyou said: Anita also didn't play video games until 2010, and suffers from confirmation bias. :VJustALEX said: Modern Feminism has done more damage to feminism than any misogynist could ever do.... Basically it's been overrun by professional victims who will cry MISOGYNY and PATRIARCHY at literally anything.... Don't believe me? Ask Suey Park or Anita Sarkeesian. Anita Sarkeesian is right though. :V You dont have to be a hardcore gamer to call out stuff in the industry, just like you dont have to be a pro athlete to talk about sports. Plus, regardless of her bias, many of the things she is calling out the industry for is very true. plus, anything that makes gamers rage and moan like little bitches is fine by me :V Anita is the devil, she's completely and utterly wrong, there is nothing in the game community at all which is against female characters, you see the real reason is...as Ubisoft put it "it would be too expensive to animate female models and hire female voice actors." You see since the female body is 10x more complex than the male body, it costs 100x more to animate a female character in a game, which is just too much money for the gaming industry which is only a small industry after all. :) Female assassins are too hard to make! D: Apparently so. |
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Jul 9, 2014 10:16 AM
#164
JustALEX said: Modern Feminism has done more damage to feminism than any misogynist could ever do.... Basically it's been overrun by professional victims who will cry MISOGYNY and PATRIARCHY at literally anything.... Don't believe me? Ask Suey Park or Anita Sarkeesian. oh I would ask her if she would't dissable her youtube comments. that ugly bitch (anita sarkeesian) somehow doing favor for all the womens around the world by bullshiting about some paranoical inequality in video games? yes this is where womens are hurt the most - in video games. this is the greatest disaster for womens - a video games. thats what matters the most! why dont she fight some more serious problems like at least real life inequality. everything she does have no point. also she is ugly and barely even women. she is the most modern feminist that did most of harm to all the real feminists. |
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Jul 9, 2014 10:22 AM
#165
Siscon2000 said: oh I would ask her if she would't dissable her youtube comments. that ugly bitch (anita sarkeesian) somehow doing favor for all the womens around the world by bullshiting about some paranoical inequality in video games? yes this is where womens are hurt the most - in video games. this is the greatest disaster for womens - a video games. thats what matters the most! why dont she fight some more serious problems like at least real life inequality. everything she does have no point. also she is ugly and barely even women. she is the most modern feminist that did most of harm to all the real feminists. lol how pathetic. And I'm sure she disabled comments because of people like you who were telling her to go kill herself, and the deaths threats from pathetic teenage kids. Also, it's fucking stupid to talk about "why isn't she fighting serious problems?!", hey why are you posting on this forum and not working as a humanitarian worker in Africa or somewhere like that? |
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Jul 9, 2014 10:24 AM
#166
Nicole said: dankickyou said: Heredity said: dankickyou said: Anita also didn't play video games until 2010, and suffers from confirmation bias. :VJustALEX said: Modern Feminism has done more damage to feminism than any misogynist could ever do.... Basically it's been overrun by professional victims who will cry MISOGYNY and PATRIARCHY at literally anything.... Don't believe me? Ask Suey Park or Anita Sarkeesian. Anita Sarkeesian is right though. :V You dont have to be a hardcore gamer to call out stuff in the industry, just like you dont have to be a pro athlete to talk about sports. Plus, regardless of her bias, many of the things she is calling out the industry for is very true. plus, anything that makes gamers rage and moan like little bitches is fine by me :V Anita is the devil, she's completely and utterly wrong, there is nothing in the game community at all which is against female characters, you see the real reason is...as Ubisoft put it "it would be too expensive to animate female models and hire female voice actors." You see since the female body is 10x more complex than the male body, it costs 100x more to animate a female character in a game, which is just too much money for the gaming industry which is only a small industry after all. :) feels like you're sarkee... sarcastic. seriously is it hurting you so much that you just can't play that single game as a female character? look.. I m a huge fan of tomb raider.. should I start to bitching around about why there's no optional male protagonist in that game?? |
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Jul 9, 2014 10:25 AM
#167
Siscon2000 said: feels like you're sarkee... sarcastic. seriously is it hurting you so much that you just can't play that single game as a female character? look.. I m a huge fan of tomb raider.. should I start to bitching around about why there's no optional male protagonist in that game?? but male characters are the norm in games, dummy. |
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Jul 9, 2014 10:25 AM
#168
Nicole said: Siscon2000 said: oh I would ask her if she would't dissable her youtube comments. that ugly bitch (anita sarkeesian) somehow doing favor for all the womens around the world by bullshiting about some paranoical inequality in video games? yes this is where womens are hurt the most - in video games. this is the greatest disaster for womens - a video games. thats what matters the most! why dont she fight some more serious problems like at least real life inequality. everything she does have no point. also she is ugly and barely even women. she is the most modern feminist that did most of harm to all the real feminists. lol how pathetic. And I'm sure she disabled comments because of people like you who were telling her to go kill herself, and the deaths threats from pathetic teenage kids. Also, it's fucking stupid to talk about "why isn't she fighting serious problems?!", hey why are you posting on this forum and not working as a humanitarian worker in Africa or somewhere like that? because I m not kind enough to work for africa. I work only for myself. |
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Jul 9, 2014 10:27 AM
#169
Siscon2000 said: because I m not kind enough to work for africa. I work only for myself. Than guess what, you have absolutely no right whatsoever to talk about what someone else chooses to do, too bad for you eh? |
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Jul 9, 2014 10:27 AM
#170
dankickyou said: Siscon2000 said: feels like you're sarkee... sarcastic. seriously is it hurting you so much that you just can't play that single game as a female character? look.. I m a huge fan of tomb raider.. should I start to bitching around about why there's no optional male protagonist in that game?? but male characters are the norm in games, dummy. as well as female characters from the very NES era.... |
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Jul 9, 2014 10:30 AM
#171
Nicole said: Siscon2000 said: because I m not kind enough to work for africa. I work only for myself. Than guess what, you have absolutely no right whatsoever to talk about what someone else chooses to do, too bad for you eh? ok fine whatever... keep fighting for more females in video games! and good luck! as I really like those shining female characters as well :) |
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Jul 9, 2014 10:32 AM
#172
| So basically you had nothing to say at all? Okay, I can see why you felt the need to make such an idiot post with no value whatsoever "lol she ugly", pathetic. |
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Jul 9, 2014 10:42 AM
#173
Nicole said: So basically you had nothing to say at all? Okay, I can see why you felt the need to make such an idiot post with no value whatsoever "lol she ugly", pathetic. well but she is. look, its not like I can argue here with every bullshit she ever said in youtube. I could but it would be a great chinese textwall. not worth my time. she just spread some weird propaganda and makes other females to be angry about something that not even important enough... also whenever females will become major gamer audience maybe creators will make more characters for you and more games for your taste. as meanwhile statistics shows that males are those who are wasting most of their time on video games. creators are not discriminating you, they're just making moneys... |
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Jul 9, 2014 10:47 AM
#174
TheConquerer said: cabacc2 said: You refused to explain what makes them annoying to you. Stop demandind explanations if you dont give them too. I said they're like annoying flies, that's a pretty good explanation in my opinion unless you've never seen flies.. That's only half of a simile. How are they like flies? |
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Jul 9, 2014 10:49 AM
#175
| The problem with feminist is that if you give them an inch they try to take a mile, nowadays men can't do squat without feminists claiming that's it's either demeaning to women or that they are being sexist They were more tolerable years back when they were actually fighting for women's equality and such, but these day's they're too fucking greedy |
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Jul 9, 2014 10:52 AM
#176
Siscon2000 said: Nicole said: So basically you had nothing to say at all? Okay, I can see why you felt the need to make such an idiot post with no value whatsoever "lol she ugly", pathetic. well but she is. look, its not like I can argue here with every bullshit she ever said in youtube. I could but it would be a great chinese textwall. not worth my time. she just spread some weird propaganda and makes other females to be angry about something that not even important enough... also whenever females will become major gamer audience maybe creators will make more characters for you and more games for your taste. as meanwhile statistics shows that males are those who are wasting most of their time on video games. creators are not discriminating you, they're just making moneys... God you really don't know anything at all do you? http://edition.cnn.com/2013/08/08/tech/gaming-gadgets/female-gamers/ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/24/female-gamers_n_5207137.html http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/11/report-nearly-half-gamers-are-women/?page=all http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Female-Gamers-Spend-More-Money-Casual-Games-Than-Male-Gamers-59184.html http://thinkprogress.org/alyssa/2013/06/12/2145601/women-are-half-of-video-gamers-so-where-are-the-female-video-game-characters/ Almost all outlays that report this at all, say that the ratio of male to female gamers are almost 50/50... At least actually try to know what you're talking about... |
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Jul 9, 2014 10:54 AM
#177
Nicole said: Siscon2000 said: Nicole said: So basically you had nothing to say at all? Okay, I can see why you felt the need to make such an idiot post with no value whatsoever "lol she ugly", pathetic. well but she is. look, its not like I can argue here with every bullshit she ever said in youtube. I could but it would be a great chinese textwall. not worth my time. she just spread some weird propaganda and makes other females to be angry about something that not even important enough... also whenever females will become major gamer audience maybe creators will make more characters for you and more games for your taste. as meanwhile statistics shows that males are those who are wasting most of their time on video games. creators are not discriminating you, they're just making moneys... God you really don't know anything at all do you? http://edition.cnn.com/2013/08/08/tech/gaming-gadgets/female-gamers/ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/24/female-gamers_n_5207137.html http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/11/report-nearly-half-gamers-are-women/?page=all http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Female-Gamers-Spend-More-Money-Casual-Games-Than-Male-Gamers-59184.html http://thinkprogress.org/alyssa/2013/06/12/2145601/women-are-half-of-video-gamers-so-where-are-the-female-video-game-characters/ Almost all outlays that report this at all, say that the ratio of male to female gamers are almost 50/50... At least actually try to know what you're talking about... oh gods our sources tells different things... |
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Jul 9, 2014 11:20 AM
#178
Siscon2000 said: Nicole said: Siscon2000 said: because I m not kind enough to work for africa. I work only for myself. Than guess what, you have absolutely no right whatsoever to talk about what someone else chooses to do, too bad for you eh? ok fine whatever... keep fighting for more females in video games! and good luck! as I really like those shining female characters as well :) Look denying sexism in video games is reeeeeeeeeally dumb, Anita Sarkeesian. is literally just pointing out the obvious. Getting upset about it's going to change that. Hey, i get it, you like watching hookers getting killed or strip clubs where women are sexual objects to play with and throw away like garbage and stuff, but at the end of the day thats why they make these games, to appeal to guys like you. But getting upset that you're favourite game or medium has sexists elements is so stupid. Her previous videos were just there to highlight that whats happening now in games with the exploitation of women and thier image, and the sexism inherent in the industry is just that. Another hey look, this is nothing new, it's just up the level at which it is being done and how. and hopefully bring some kind of change to the kinds of characters that seem to be used in games. Siscon2000 said: oh gods our sources tells different things... I think your source just comes from the inherent fact you like sexist depictions of women to fap over. |
Jul 9, 2014 11:40 AM
#179
Elvellonwen said: Look denying sexism in video games is reeeeeeeeeally dumb, Anita Sarkeesian. is literally just pointing out the obvious. Getting upset about it's going to change that. ok if that is called sexism... Elvellonwen said: Hey, i get it, you like watching hookers getting killed or strip clubs where women are sexual objects to play with and throw away like garbage and stuff, but at the end of the day thats why they make these games, to appeal to guys like you. first of all you dont even know what I like.. not sure if you talking about games here or RL... Elvellonwen said: But getting upset that you're favourite game or medium has sexists elements is so stupid. why would I be upset about that even if thats true.. its just a game after all. Elvellonwen said: Her previous videos were just there to highlight that whats happening now in games with the exploitation of women and thier image, and the sexism inherent in the industry is just that. Another hey look, this is nothing new, it's just up the level at which it is being done and how. games don't create womens image, they just show it as it is in real life. games is just a mirror. you cant blame mirror for ugly face literaly.. Elvellonwen said: and hopefully bring some kind of change to the kinds of characters that seem to be used in games. I m fine with them. I'll vote for "stay the way it is". Elvellonwen said: Siscon2000 said: oh gods our sources tells different things... I think your source just comes from the inherent fact you like sexist depictions of women to fap over. games are not for fapping. at least I m.. not.. seriously. I m enjoying games another way... |
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Jul 9, 2014 11:44 AM
#180
Siscon2000 said: games don't create womens image, they just show it as it is in real life. games is just a mirror. you cant blame mirror for ugly face literaly.. Games actively encourage the player to perform sexist acts to depictions of exploited women. Get the principle and understand that it's encouraging that kind of behaviour by forcing the player to do those things. It showing women as objects to be treated like that and putting the player in the position of the one who performs those acts of violence against them. It's sexist, and thats reality and im sorry that reality is hard for you to grasp because it happens to be made in pixels and no atoms. |
Jul 9, 2014 11:46 AM
#181
Jul 9, 2014 11:48 AM
#182
Elvellonwen said: Siscon2000 said: games don't create womens image, they just show it as it is in real life. games is just a mirror. you cant blame mirror for ugly face literaly.. Games actively encourage the player to perform sexist acts to depictions of exploited women. Get the principle and understand that it's encouraging that kind of behaviour by forcing the player to do those things. It showing women as objects to be treated like that and putting the player in the position of the one who performs those acts of violence against them. It's sexist, and thats reality and im sorry that reality is hard for you to grasp because it happens to be made in pixels and no atoms. You're validating siscon with a response, you should know better... |
Jul 9, 2014 11:55 AM
#183
| ^^^ didn't realize that I'm being forced to click a button :/ you just agreed with siscon there, so you kinda failed |
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Jul 9, 2014 11:55 AM
#184
Elvellonwen said: Siscon2000 said: games don't create womens image, they just show it as it is in real life. games is just a mirror. you cant blame mirror for ugly face literaly.. Games actively encourage the player to perform sexist acts to depictions of exploited women. Get the principle and understand that it's encouraging that kind of behaviour by forcing the player to do those things. It showing women as objects to be treated like that and putting the player in the position of the one who performs those acts of violence against them. It's sexist, and thats reality and im sorry that reality is hard for you to grasp because it happens to be made in pixels and no atoms. it is mostly players decision what to do in a game dont you think? its the same as to say that violent games somehow "encouraging" to kill peoples.. in real life.. |
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Jul 9, 2014 1:57 PM
#185
Siscon2000 said: it is mostly players decision what to do in a game dont you think? its the same as to say that violent games somehow "encouraging" to kill peoples.. in real life.. It's not about ''encouraging real life behaviour'' it's about encouraging sexist behaviour. It's the fact these games have these option even available for no other reason than the further exploitation of women in another genre. Poitato said: You're validating siscon with a response, you should know better... I know, but im in hope he's not trolling and can be reached on some level where he actually gets the concept of what sexism means and how it affects women. And to put aside his narrow view. I'll give up at a certain point. He's not entirely lost yet. Maybe theres hope. Who knows. |
Jul 9, 2014 3:10 PM
#186
Nicole said: Siscon2000 said: Nicole said: So basically you had nothing to say at all? Okay, I can see why you felt the need to make such an idiot post with no value whatsoever "lol she ugly", pathetic. well but she is. look, its not like I can argue here with every bullshit she ever said in youtube. I could but it would be a great chinese textwall. not worth my time. she just spread some weird propaganda and makes other females to be angry about something that not even important enough... also whenever females will become major gamer audience maybe creators will make more characters for you and more games for your taste. as meanwhile statistics shows that males are those who are wasting most of their time on video games. creators are not discriminating you, they're just making moneys... God you really don't know anything at all do you? http://edition.cnn.com/2013/08/08/tech/gaming-gadgets/female-gamers/ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/24/female-gamers_n_5207137.html http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/11/report-nearly-half-gamers-are-women/?page=all http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Female-Gamers-Spend-More-Money-Casual-Games-Than-Male-Gamers-59184.html http://thinkprogress.org/alyssa/2013/06/12/2145601/women-are-half-of-video-gamers-so-where-are-the-female-video-game-characters/ Almost all outlays that report this at all, say that the ratio of male to female gamers are almost 50/50... At least actually try to know what you're talking about... While I don't agree with siscon2000 the rate is NEVER 50/50. Maybe for Animal Crossing Farmville or Sims. The adult games are still dominated by men who drool when they hear a girl-voice. Coming from LoL I know 3 female friends and 300 male I met in games :D |
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Jul 9, 2014 3:46 PM
#187
| I wonder if the person who made that comment would be mindblown to know there are matriarchal societies in other areas of the world. Weak minded males are gay? The ignorance, it burns. Beta males? I haven't heard that term since middle school. Name calling is immature and shows insecurity. The historical and cultural ignorance of human history is also painful to read. Men are smarter than women? Hahahahahaha, society used to say something similar like, "non Caucasians were inferior in the chain of evolution" to justify racism. Yes men and women do have differences biologically through reproduction organs and aesthetics, but things involving intelligence and skills comes from a person's upbringing, life experiences, knowledge along with it's application, hard work, and sometimes genes for certain traits. There are other things women can do that men usually do, there are women that are physically stronger than a lot of men. I think the commenter most likely had a few experiences with some feminists on the extreme side which is rare or is scared that his or possibly her belief on how the world works is viewed differently by others in the world along with possible change occurring in society. |
penguindrum264Jul 9, 2014 3:53 PM
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Jul 9, 2014 9:56 PM
#188
Nicole said: Anita is the devil, she's completely and utterly wrong, there is nothing in the game community at all which is against female characters, you see the real reason is...as Ubisoft put it "it would be too expensive to animate female models and hire female voice actors." You see since the female body is 10x more complex than the male body, it costs 100x more to animate a female character in a game, which is just too much money for the gaming industry which is only a small industry after all. :) Lol, ok... For the record....Anita Sarkeesian's "Tropes vs. Women in Video games" has been FULLY debunked by just about everyone. She makes the most ridiculous implications and knows nothing about the video game industry. She's just grasping at straws and only sees sexism aimed one way.... OH look a scantly clad woman, oh look girls in bikinis fighting each other....oh look Mario has to rescue the princess.....HOW SEXIST! Women are all objects and a reward to the players! Meanwhile she completely misses the fact that men are also objectified like crazy in video games with their ridiculous muscles and the fact that the majority of violence in video games is aimed at....MEN! And yet you don't see ANY guy making a "Tropes vs. Men in Video Games". Anita Sarkeesian was given $160,000 to do this project and the results have been an utter failure. |
Jul 9, 2014 10:08 PM
#189
| Anybody who supports Sarkeesian, is instantly invalidated. Ah modern day feminism, or pseudo-feminism is a such a joke. Nothing but a bunch of white, middle class, self-entitled, self-righteous fascists. Ah...how I miss the days of Simone de Beauvoir, a real feminist with intelligent opinions regarding gender relations. Most of you tumblr feminists don't know a damn thing about her. All you've done is probably taken one college course on feminist theory and think you are hot stuff. GTFO. Feminism is not needed in western society. Bring feminism to countries like India and Saudi Arabia. But you can't can you? Because Feminism is ill-equipped to handle any real issues. |
Jul 9, 2014 10:16 PM
#190
| AND.....just to be fair....I want anyone who is interested to actually sit down and watch Anita Sarkeesian's video: ^Anyone who has ever played a video game, please look at this video....because this woman wants to change the video game industry. Let's just PRAY she doesn't know what anime is.... |
Jul 9, 2014 10:31 PM
#192
JustALEX said: AND.....just to be fair....I want anyone who is interested to actually sit down and watch Anita Sarkeesian's video: ^Anyone who has ever played a video game, please look at this video....because this woman wants to change the video game industry. Let's just PRAY she doesn't know what anime is.... I've seen all her videos and I play video games. I wouldnt mind changes to the video game industry, in fact I look forward to it. Wasabi said: We're still giving Anita Sarkeesian attention? 160000 USD of real world money talks louder and clearer than any 12 year COD playing top LEL and forced meme bullying responses will ever will. Deal with it. |
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Jul 9, 2014 10:42 PM
#193
dankickyou said: I wouldnt mind changes to the video game industry, in fact I look forward to it. Such as? BTW....going back to Anita.....it has been said that MANY of the footage she shows in her videos were actually taken from other youtuber's let's play video clips, for which she gives NO CREDIT. Not only is that a violation of YouTube....it makes one think....what the fuck did she use the $160,000 that she made off her kickstarter? |
--ALEX--Jul 9, 2014 10:47 PM
Jul 9, 2014 11:23 PM
#195
JustALEX said: Meanwhile she completely misses the fact that men are also objectified like crazy in video games with their ridiculous muscles and the fact that the majority of violence in video games is aimed at....MEN! And yet you don't see ANY guy making a "Tropes vs. Men in Video Games". I always love it when guys try to compare it and say that the level of objectification in video games is the same with men and women. It takes a staggering level of ignorance to actually believe that. |
| "If you love someone Follow your heart Cause love comes once If you’re lucky enough" |
Jul 9, 2014 11:46 PM
#196
Nicole said: I always love it when guys try to compare it and say that the level of objectification in video games is the same with men and women. So....only women are objectified huh? All those dudes in video games that are either the main protagonist with huge muscles or the countless of faceless males that are killed (at a ridiculously disproportionate rate than women characters) are what? If we just look at video games for what they actually are...we find out that the reason why things are the way they are is not to be inherently sexist, it's simply for the sake of fantasy and nothing else. The same reason why anime objectifies both males and females as well....they are for the enjoyment of the viewer both male and female. |
Jul 9, 2014 11:50 PM
#197
| Men are "objectified" in games for men. Women are objectified in games for men. See the difference? |
| "If you love someone Follow your heart Cause love comes once If you’re lucky enough" |
Jul 9, 2014 11:54 PM
#198
| "Natural female behavior," as if all women are and should be exactly the same and if they aren't, they aren't "real women." Good post, OP. Keep 'em coming. |
Jul 10, 2014 12:01 AM
#199
Nicole said: Men are "objectified" in games for men. Women are objectified in games for men. See the difference? Ok....but are the video games objectifying women made for males or women in mind? It's the same reasoning in anime? Are Harem anime made for males or females in mind? There are several video games where females are the protagonists and they get to kill male characters in horrific manners.....would I then conclude that video games are sexist against males? People can see sexism in practically anything if that's what they're really searching for. |
Jul 10, 2014 12:04 AM
#200
| oh, btw i think the op is kinda dumb. i'm just continuing a line of discussion from earlier in the thread: dankickyou said: there's a difference between talking about something, and actually critically analysing it from non-biased standpoint. when you go into a topic with a pre-conceived conclusion, you're prone to confirmation bias - you look for information that quantify your claims, rather than just looking for information.Heredity said: dankickyou said: JustALEX said: Modern Feminism has done more damage to feminism than any misogynist could ever do.... Basically it's been overrun by professional victims who will cry MISOGYNY and PATRIARCHY at literally anything.... Don't believe me? Ask Suey Park or Anita Sarkeesian. Anita Sarkeesian is right though. :V You dont have to be a hardcore gamer to call out stuff in the industry, just like you dont have to be a pro athlete to talk about sports. Plus, regardless of her bias, many of the things she is calling out the industry for is very true. plus, anything that makes gamers rage and moan like little bitches is fine by me :V most of her gripes can be explained away by the fact that men are the primary demographic of video games, plain and simple. she also suffers from not realising that women who plays video games may, indeed, actually be ok with themes like sexualisation and damsel in distress. hence why they're even playing video games in the first place. of course, that's only really counting towards 'real video games.' the core demographic of mobile games seems to be women, and it shows. maybe the thing is is that men and women generally have a differing opinion on what makes a game fun, how they like to play, where they like to play, and the such. warping either side to suit the other is nonsensical from a commercial standpoint, especially if the members of the opposite sex play games designed for the other sex because they're the way they are. this next section will probably make people flip their shit and discount anything else i've typed, but i'm perfectly ok with objectification of men and women. it's one of the key things that makes us human (next to our ability to assign things to be 'right' or 'wrong). think about that the next time you go to have sexual release without a partner. |
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