| When was Agito subbed by TVN? Anyway. I've caught a few older series. I don't swear by them though, but then again by no stretch of the imagination am I your average Toku fan. Neither the n00b that thinks every series that comes out in the new year is better than the last, nor the "veteran" who watches all his shows in RAW Japanese and insists that the shows from the 80's are the epitome of excellence in Tokusatsu and nothing made today or made in animation can stand up to it. This is all besides the point, and very off-topic however. :) |
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sHsIkuA said: UltraTien said: SageShinigami said: UltraTien said: Not the most unique Top 5 there is, lemme guess Kamen Rider Kabuto is your favorite tokusatsu? Not the most unique compared...to whom? And my favorite Toku is a toss-up between Kabuto, Blade, and Agito. All of which are better than Ultraman. ;) The original Ultraman? I'd say so, Agito and Kabuto are in my top 5 Kamen Rider, but not in my Top 5 toku :D. I'm guessing you've only seen the fansubbed stuff on Veoh and by TVN. What toku are your top 5 , sorry for going OT lol , just want to know BTW, Kabuto is on my top 5 but that's because I only watched a few toku series, and others older I am too young to remember. Oh btw, Black RX > Kabuto =D I'd hit you with a Rider Kick for that, except Kabuto fell apart somewhere in the 30s and near as I can tell (I'm still 11 episodes away from finishing it), it never pulled back together. So I permit statements like that. :D |
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| its pointless shounen beat'em up crap, essentially, and has been going on for way past it's use-by-date, and the years of fillers were a slight irritation.. |
ViM said: its pointless shounen beat'em up crap, essentially, and has been going on for way past it's use-by-date, and the years of fillers were a slight irritation.. ....Where's my roll-eyes icon? |
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SageShinigami said: ViM said: its pointless shounen beat'em up crap, essentially, and has been going on for way past it's use-by-date, and the years of fillers were a slight irritation.. ....Where's my roll-eyes icon? if you find it, put it back. everything he said is essentially true, in a way. |
Xjellocross said: SageShinigami said: ViM said: its pointless shounen beat'em up crap, essentially, and has been going on for way past it's use-by-date, and the years of fillers were a slight irritation.. ....Where's my roll-eyes icon? if you find it, put it back. everything he said is essentially true, in a way. Heh if Naruto "somehow" ended earlier, it would probably be a good anime |
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| The reason most people hate it because of the 100 filler episodes or so, and because a lot of people say the english dub versions with crappy voice actors and dialogged, believe it. |
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Xjellocross said: SageShinigami said: ViM said: its pointless shounen beat'em up crap, essentially, and has been going on for way past it's use-by-date, and the years of fillers were a slight irritation.. ....Where's my roll-eyes icon? if you find it, put it back. everything he said is essentially true, in a way. In a way? Hm. Well, all anime is "pointless". It only really matters if you like it. :) I hate the bias against shonen anime though, really I do. |
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SageShinigami said: When was Agito subbed by TVN? Anyway. I've caught a few older series. I don't swear by them though, but then again by no stretch of the imagination am I your average Toku fan. Neither the n00b that thinks every series that comes out in the new year is better than the last, nor the "veteran" who watches all his shows in RAW Japanese and insists that the shows from the 80's are the epitome of excellence in Tokusatsu and nothing made today or made in animation can stand up to it. This is all besides the point, and very off-topic however. :) Agito wasn't subbed by TVN, I mean stuff on Veoh, and stuff subbed by TVN, Agito was subbed by Cruel Angel who sells his fansubs burned onto the R2 DVD's so he doesn't go broke. Endokoji uploaded Agito to Veoh. My Toku top 5 is: 1. Kamen Rider Kuuga 2. Ultraman Taro 3. Kamen Rider V3 4. Uchuu Keiji Shaider 5. Ultraman Tiga While the 80's was epic, there are some good 90's and 2000's tokus :D, also alot don't watch all RAW, since there are rare fansubs or some of the R2's come with fansubs. Also I have a feeling that the US narutards that watch only dubbed are going to consider the whole 70ish episodes of fillers as part of the main storyline and love them LOL. If you ask me Yuri Lowenthal and the VA director should just skip all the fillers and go straight to Shippuden, get done faster. |
| I don't hate it, but I don't like it either. I pretty much don't like any seris that goes past 200 episodes. It's all about money. |
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While the 80's was epic, there are some good 90's and 2000's tokus :D, also alot don't watch all RAW, since there are rare fansubs or some of the R2's come with fansubs. I know, I know, off-topic but...what R2 comes with subtitles aside from the rare movie or independent release? If I could do without TV-N I would. |
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SageShinigami said: While the 80's was epic, there are some good 90's and 2000's tokus :D, also alot don't watch all RAW, since there are rare fansubs or some of the R2's come with fansubs. I know, I know, off-topic but...what R2 comes with subtitles aside from the rare movie or independent release? If I could do without TV-N I would. A crap load of Ultraman R2's come with subtitles in english, off the top of my head Ultraman The Next, Ultraman Mebius & Ultra Brothers, Ultraman Taro and the Six Ultra Brothers, and Ultraman Cosmos vs Ultraman Justice: The Final Battle have Subtitles on the official R2's. Although only the collectors edition of Cosmos vs Justice has subtitles. Theres also Elite-Justice fansubs as well as HK Bootleg Subs (most of which are horrible though). Also RedRogueRanger subbed all of TimeRanger. Then theres the official R1 Tokus, Ultraman 1966 (although it was licensed by Chaiyo, Thai company that bootlegs Ultra's), Ultraman Tiga, Kamen Rider V3, Kamen Rider the First, Iron King, Ultraman Tiga Dyna Gaia: Battle in Hyperspace, Ultraman Tiga and Ultraman Dyna: Warriors of the Light Star, Jinzou Ningen Kikaida, Kikaida 01, Mechanical Violater Haikaider, Casshern, and so on. |
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UltraTien said: A crap load of Ultraman R2's come with subtitles in english, off the top of my head Ultraman The Next, Ultraman Mebius & Ultra Brothers, Ultraman Taro and the Six Ultra Brothers, and Ultraman Cosmos vs Ultraman Justice: The Final Battle have Subtitles on the official R2's. Although only the collectors edition of Cosmos vs Justice has subtitles. Theres also Elite-Justice fansubs as well as HK Bootleg Subs (most of which are horrible though). Also RedRogueRanger subbed all of TimeRanger. Then theres the official R1 Tokus, Ultraman 1966 (although it was licensed by Chaiyo, Thai company that bootlegs Ultra's), Ultraman Tiga, Kamen Rider V3, Kamen Rider the First, Iron King, Ultraman Tiga Dyna Gaia: Battle in Hyperspace, Ultraman Tiga and Ultraman Dyna: Warriors of the Light Star, Jinzou Ningen Kikaida, Kikaida 01, Mechanical Violater Haikaider, Casshern, and so on. Lots of Ultraman there...too bad I'm not really all that big on Ultras. Also, RRR's "subs" are...not really subs. :P I wish they were, as I kinda want to see Timeranger. Elite-Justice is okay though. Hating things brings me pleasure. Sometimes I wonder how many people really think like this... |
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| I Agree with what others say.Coz of those damn useless fillers.. |
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| I dont hate Naruto, I just think its too overrated. >_> And because of all of the filler-episodes I dont intend to ever watch the anime, so Im just sticking to the manga. But yea, its just too overrated, I dont think its THAT good.. Its not that bad either though. |
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| I can't say I hate it... because I haven't seen much of it to really get my input on it, only about three episodes. But I didn't think they were THAT great like the fanbase makes it look. As said above, it's way to overrated for what it is. I don't think I'll ever watch it -- dubbed or subbed -- because of the amount of filler there is. Which is a pitty, but hey, can't be helped. I have been thinking about reading the manga sometime though, but for what the show actually is, it is overrated. There's other shows out there that are better and not as popular. That's just my opinion though ^-^ |
| It was great, then it turned simply good, now it's just lacking. I only continue to read it because of pure curiosity. A lot of people hate on it just because it's popular though. |
| I didn't find it entertaining. Although, to the show's credit, I think it's probably gotten better. One of my (Narutard) friends convinced me to watch one of the newer episodes, and I liked it a lot more than the first season. |
| 'Cause I keep seeing it, I feel a quote is in order. myself said: I mean yeah the fillers prolly suck (I don't really bother with downloading the anime), but that's a flimsy excuse when you could've just ignored them all. |
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| It's Dragonball Z with ninjas.To drawn out fights,but besides that I like it a little bit. |
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| I don't hate Naruto, but I do feel that its increddibly overrated with far too many annoying characters for my liking. But, overall, I would say that its just an average shounen. Of course, that's just my opinion. |
| I don't have a problem with it, but it is pretty bad. The fact that 90% of it's fanbase consists of idiots doesn't help it at all either. |
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| They killed off Haku. thats enough reason for me to hate it :( |
raysel said: I don't have a problem with it, but it is pretty bad. The fact that 90% of it's fanbase consists of idiots doesn't help it at all either. Alright, now that's just being plain biased. I mean, just because a lot of people like a show that you don't like, doesn't mean that their all, or almost all, idiots. I myself am not too big on Naruto, and feel that its pretty overrated, but I have friends who are into it, and they most certainly are not idiots. Only the extremely obsessive fanboys, commonly nicknamed as Narutards, are the ones who really act like idiots, and believe it or not, they don't make up 90% of Naruto's fan-base =P . |
| i think its cause all of the fanboyism it receives and the fact that at first Naruto especially in the first arc of the series is extremely annoying |
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| naruto is annyoing. the series is way overrated. naruto has his own F**king shoes for godsake... really taken too far... and all the characters are either emo, annyoing or they totally suck in general. |
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| because of those fillers..and for me, i hate it when they keep repeating the same and same and same scenes over and over and over again..but i do luv Gaara..yeah Gaara only~~ |
ensatsu-ken said: text don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of the series, but the fanbase that tends to come along with it (and other shonen series in general) bothers me a lot. yes, 90% is an exaggeration, but hopefully you get the idea. I still stand by my statement that it's a pretty bad series altogether. started out good, but things went downhill after the sannin arc. |
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| Honestly, i started reading the manga, and i loved it. When my shounen jump subscription ended, i decided to pick up the anime. lets just say i couldnt get past the 15th episode because of how slow-paced it was... with all the unnecessary flashbacks and such. It really irritated me to the point where i didn't even pick the manga back up. I'd much rather read bleach, shaman king, or one piece. |
kirAth-shiAue said: I don't hate it, but I don't like it either. I pretty much don't like any seris that goes past 200 episodes. It's all about money. I like the way you think. 200+ is just stupid. of course.. Nothing wrong with /long/ anime like monster. Not a moment wasted. (noticed your monster sig :D) :3 -- SageShinigami said: 'Cause I keep seeing it, I feel a quote is in order. myself said: I mean yeah the fillers prolly suck (I don't really bother with downloading the anime), but that's a flimsy excuse when you could've just ignored them all. I noticed a few people say stuff like this. when you have to skip episodes in an anime, even a single one, you are not fully experiencing it! you have to be kidding me.. It just bothers me when people say "oh yeah I skipped 100 eps, pretty good show". Shit like that bothers me more than the devout narutard, because at least they watch what they love |
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selective_yellow said: I noticed a few people say stuff like this. when you have to skip episodes in an anime, even a single one, you are not fully experiencing it! you have to be kidding me.. It just bothers me when people say "oh yeah I skipped 100 eps, pretty good show". Shit like that bothers me more than the devout narutard, because at least they watch what they love While I do agree with you skipping sucks especially when they say things like "I hate the show so much that I dropped it in the first episode bla bla" . How can you hate a show that you only get to watch for 1 episode? Its like watching 5 minutes of Transformers and say it sucks. However, in the case of Naruto, I have to disagree with you here. Maybe hardcore fans will watch it or just for the sake of completing it, but I stopped halfway around 160+, well even after I continue back on Shippuuden, Naruto just doesn't give me the feeling I got in the earlier episodes anymore. My point is, even with or without spoiler, the show drags and drags till some watcher lost interest in it completely. I have some friends who still like it, some who completely stop watching it , and some still watch it but not liking it as much anymore. I am in the 3rd category =) Its just like Bleach, at first , I thought, that was an awesome series, then I heard rumor it will end around 60-70 episodes, which is good IMHO... then the creator just continue and continue till now.. which again, follow the path of Naruto. I guess when theres demand (which is always will especially for kids or those who started to like Naruto) it will go on and on and on. |
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| The reason I don't like Naruto is that I just can't get into an anime series very well if there isn't at least one character that I like on the show. On Naruto I couldn't find myself liking any of the characters. (most I hated) So I stopped watching it. Im not bashing it or anything Im just saying its not for me. Oh and one other thing....its way too long for me to follow. |
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| yeah i mean filler sux balls thers about nearle 50+ eps i can think of that are just filler its rubbish bleach is much better but the filler is worse at least with naruto its still ninja stuff but bleach they bake cakes and stuff like that both are sux |
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| I will hate Naruto but love Naruto Shippudden... Naruto------ In Naruto there was very lame,always say about boring thing such as do bored misson no fun and no nice! Naruto Shippudden-------- In shippudden started nice,Akatsuki started come out,but i miss sasuke.Stupid itachi and sasuke havent come out...the writer must dono how to continues liao sure let us wait...So i started boring to Naruto Shippudden too,waste alot time to see~ |
| yeah shippuden came along at the right time naruto was getting lame it was just filler after filler nothing was happening in shippuden it all seem alot faster two great fight so far 3 on the way |
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| like many others I would have to agree on the fact that naruto is just to drawn out, and many of the fighting sequences are the same thing over and over again with something sligtly diffrent thrown in to the point where it's simply to predictable. Aside from that it doesnt help that the popularity of it makes it so "in your face" that it's dificult to just ignore it regardless of your oppnion on the anime. Personally someone could point out any aspect of the anime that they liked and I could find ATLEAST one searies that does it better and more believable than naruto does. While naruto isnt bad it isnt all that geat ether, its missing that certian something that grabs your attention and makes you want to see the hero suceed. The same goes for most of the big popular animes out there. They tend to be alright but nothing special. |
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_tv_ said: How far did you get in the manga? I get scans online so im very updated on the story and it is starting to get really interesting. I dropped the anime for the same reason. 300+ episode and they still have the same problems. bah. it's been so long i can't really remember, but not TOO far... i probably need to pick it back up at some point. same with bleach.... heh |
| naruto had some good fights ans if your just starting out then keep watching it gets good THERE JUST TOO MUCH FILLER!!! |
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| Out of curiousity, are there any sites that point out which episodes are filler, and which are not? |
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MagicalEmi said: Out of curiousity, are there any sites that point out which episodes are filler, and which are not? Filler episodes are 102-106 and 136 to the last couple of minutes of 220 (the end of the series). It's a little more complicated with Shippuuden, since the filler material they've used there is sort of interwoven with the real story. I'm not as critical of filler material in general as some other people are. However, Naruto's was just exceptionally long and corresponded with a drop in animation quality. It also seemed to be sporadic, disconnected, and nonrelated, which at times provided a clear signal that it was filler, unlike, say, Bleach and the Bount Arc, which, to be completely honest, I might not have been able to distinguish as filler unless I had already read the manga. That being said, in my opinion, a few of the filler episodes were some of the funniest Naruto episodes ever. Chubby Paradise and Lee's Dojo to name a couple. |
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| I don't hate it (c'mon, it's a TV show, why get all worked up?) but I don't watch it because it's too long. I can't sit still through that many episodes. I don't have the time to do so. |
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| I don't hate Naruto. But in my opinion they screwed the anime a bit after 8x episodes. But the 80 first episodes are really worth watching. About Shippuuden, could be better. Watched about 25 episodes, but dropped it since the only thing they did was to talk. Like 15 mins with talking about the fight, and the rest with fighting/running. Just too boring for me >_< |
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| I don't hate it but I don't like it either. |
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