| The university I’m attending seems to think that handing out rape whistles is the best solution to stopping a string of unsolved sexual assaults that have been taking place on campus all semester. Perhaps they are trying this new tactic because the administrative emails telling us to be very, very afraid, not to go out alone at night, and to be more careful (uh-huh) seem to not be working to stop a real-life rapist from preying on women in a methodical and calculated way (whodathunkit?). I can’t find any evidence that rape whistles do shit, and I certainly can’t get excited about an anti-rape method premised on the idea that rape happens, but maybe if you’re lucky, some hero will come and rescue you. But it’s pink. For the ladies. So that’s exciting. Am I right or am I right? An official university email cautions s that “now is not the time to give into anxiety” because ladies = hysteria, presumably. So, instead of giving into my feminine urges, I came up with a list of a few things we could do with our pink rape whistles, as I do not for one minute think mine will be keeping me safe from being raped on campus. 1. Lead a cheer squad (Two-four-six-eight, whistles do not address rape! Pink whistles make us see red, can’t we address rape culture instead?) 2. Whistle loudly to attract a pack of small, fashionable dogs with jewel-encrusted collars who can protect you on campus . 3. Diddle your clit. 4. Perform a party trick whereby one blows the whistle with the wind from one’s own farts. 5. Bedazzle the shit out of that thing for a whistle-themed fashion show (in the style of “sexualize breast cancer” campaigns). 6. Coordinate all outfits and nail polish going forward, as any pink-minded individual would. Rape on campus is not just going to go away with a few toots on a whistle, so this is the new approach to ending sexual assault we will be wearing our whistles forever. 7. Master the whistle as a new instrument and attract a protector/spouse through your skillful playing. Like the use of the pianoforte in a Jane Austen novel. 8. Ask oneself how a rape whistle is supposed to do anything in the case of all of the other kinds of sexual assault that happen on campus all of the time that don’t include a stranger at night in the bushes. No, wait. Look at the pretty pink colour and think about that instead. 9. Blow the whistle so hard that you are transported to an alternate universe where women are not expected to be solely responsible for not getting raped, and instead, men are expected to not be rapists. 10. Blow your whistle until you pass out and bump your head hard enough to take the rest of the semester off. Suggestions, anyone? |
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gravityhappens said: Maybe people should invest more time teaching men that rape is unacceptable Wait rape isn't acceptable? my god as a man I had no idea because nobody ever taught me in school that rape is wrong so I couldn't form an obvious thought that rape is bad but now I know...thank you crusader of male education, I am now a productive member of society and no longer the man beast I was. - Said every sane man ever. Lets not pretend men need some kind of in your face education to know rape is bad k. |
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gravityhappens said: Maybe people should invest more time teaching men that rape is unacceptable rather than essentially telling the girls that if they do get raped it's their own fault for not following stupid precautions. I don't see how you can teach monsters though. They're sociopaths, it's not like they consider rape to be acceptable, they just don't care. |
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gravityhappens said: Maybe people should invest more time teaching men that rape is unacceptable rather than essentially telling the girls that if they do get raped it's their own fault for not following stupid precautions. A real solution would be increasing security around campus and making sure all sexual offenders get caught and kicked out It should be obvious people know rape is unacceptable, but they still do it, and always will. Honestly, these rape whistles won't work because they're beyond easy to deal with. What kind of rapist will let their victim pull out a whistle and blow it? |
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Lo-Lee-Ta said: I'm guessing that getting anxious over "a string of unsolved sexual assaults that have been taking place somewhere I usually go" is just a guy thing then.An official university email cautions s that “now is not the time to give into anxiety” because ladies = hysteria, presumably. |
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yazio said: Lo-Lee-Ta said: I'm guessing that getting anxious over "a string of unsolved sexual assaults that have been taking place somewhere I usually go" is just a guy thing then.An official university email cautions s that “now is not the time to give into anxiety” because ladies = hysteria, presumably. Not sure if over thinking or she is just seeing sexism where there isn't any. |
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Heredity said: If anything, long lists of rape occurrences just makes me feel all secure insidethere's no way unsolved male-on-female rapes with a perpetrator still at large could ever cause a woman to feel anxious. never. I should maybe get a whistle or a tazer or something, I feel as if I would be silly enough to walk around in the dead of night alone |
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ReaperCreeper said: How about they carry a taser instead or pepper spray? How about a strap on and some combat training, turn it against them I doubt they would try it if they thought they could get sexually assaulted like that back. |
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| It's always amusing when these situations happen, that authorities seem to think that the way to stop rape is to make women change their behavior. Anyway, if men were banned from alcohol, most rape cases would dramatically decrease. |
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Nicole said: It's always amusing when these situations happen, that authorities seem to think that the way to stop rape is to make women change their behavior. Anyway, if men were banned from alcohol, most rape cases would dramatically decrease. source? Also having something that alerts people nearby of an attacker is hardly changing their behavior. I'd take having something to alert people over having nothing anyday. |
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cabacc2 said: If the rape victim doesnt blow the rape whistle, she has to blow the whistle of the rapist. Irony? Or break it |
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Kibura_Iburasa said: Also having something that alerts people nearby of an attacker is hardly changing their behavior. I'd take having something to alert people over having nothing anyday. It's not just that, there are tons of things we're told to 'protect ourselves', which does mean changing your behavior, don't go out, don't talk to people you don't know, don't walk home alone, amongst others. |
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Heredity said: Nicole said: buy a bull horn, or take a self defense class, or carry a taser. do all three! don't do nothing. this is about stopping someone from raping you. you can blame men and take down alcohol after you've not been raped.It's always amusing when these situations happen, that authorities seem to think that the way to stop rape is to make women change their behavior. Some people don't have that luxury. |
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Kibura_Iburasa said: ReaperCreeper said: How about they carry a taser instead or pepper spray? How about a strap on and some combat training, turn it against them I doubt they would try it if they thought they could get sexually assaulted like that back. In most places this gets you arrested. In general taking a break from the Rape train. Screaming fire, or looking, and pointing at others works better than yelling rape or blowing a whistle. If alone however doesn't do shit. I could teach a few self defense things easily to the ladies here but 1. I don't know most of you and don't trust you to not use it to attack. 2. Its a pain in the ass to do it purely by text means, though I do tend to pass on some stuff to a few people. And 3. Generally avoiding and seeing the problem is the best ways. As to tasers, some people are trained to resist them, have a natural endurace to them, and you have to get close to use it. Which is a danger, a better means to use it is as a clicker, pull it out let it sparkle. And hope you don't have to use it. As in the time it takes you to bring it up, you might have a elbow in the face. In general cattle prods an stun sticks are more pratical, but you can't hide those really. In general tasers are useless crap only good for lighting up college students. As to pepper spray. If the attacker is Military, Police, or mutliple sentenced convict, or a person with odd fetishes, Pepper spray and tear gas are useless, as in the former cases repeated expousre builds immunity. Knew this one guy for example that for shits and giggles sprayed himself in the face with it, then wipe it off after pretening he burned his eyes out. Later that day he looks at some of us and went. "Want to know what this is good for?" *Sprays it on his beef and rice plate and eats it* Its good on dogs however. |
RedArmyShogunApr 12, 2014 7:11 AM
Nicole said: don't go out, don't talk to people you don't know, don't walk home alone, amongst others. Thats common sense, we teach children the same things because it IS dangerous out there for everyone. You can be mugged, raped, kidnapped, stabbed and thats any gender. The worlds a harsh place we can't expect it to become nice and soft, its easier to protect yourself than expect the world to change over night. |
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Kibura_Iburasa said: Thats common sense Why? I happen to like talking to people that I don't know (how else do you meet people?) and I like going out. Can't say I care much for walking home a lone, but I'm sure there are people who like taking walks on their own, for whatever reason. None of that is 'dangerous' behavior. |
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Heredity said: then do what you can, carry a damn stapler or something. even a metal butter knife is better than nothing at all.Some people don't have that luxury. I'd rather not. Firstly their is no prove that carrying something like that will actually do anything, once again whenever this topic comes up, people ignore the fact that the vast majority of rapes are by people known to the victim, and that the whole 'grabbed into a dark alley', are actually really rare. Also, carrying a weapon makes you have far higher risk of being severe injured or killed, same as why having guns in the home increase danger, not reduce it. |
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worldeditor11 said: Umm. What? Are you serious? Yes. |
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Nicole said: Because that worked the first time we tried itAnyway, if men were banned from alcohol, most rape cases would dramatically decrease. Oh wait... |
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Mogu-sama said: Nicole said: Because that worked the first time we tried itAnyway, if men were banned from alcohol, most rape cases would dramatically decrease. Oh wait... It was a joke. But to 'prevent rape', it's always our responsibility, never mens. |
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Nicole said: Also, carrying a weapon makes you have far higher risk of being severe injured or killed, same as why having guns in the home increase danger, not reduce it. So you think the world should change to be completely none violent/rapey over night so you can walk through dark ally's at night but you also don't support women carrying something to defend themselves if they are attacked, instead they should what? not fight because the attacker might harm them more. Im confused on your message here. |
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| It's obvious that people should be taught that rape is an atrocity and that you should never do it, however that doesn't mean that we can try to prevent other incidents by teaching ways to avoid incidents. Think about it, we tell people that stealing, murder and muggings are bad things to do, but we still tell people to not walk around with a large amount of cash, or to have too many valuables on at once, or even to walk through a bad area of town late at night. There will always be people who do break the law in the most horrible ways, the amount will lessen if we properly educate people, but the fact that some will always break the law is a fact. As such there are ways that we can protect ourselves. That's why I never got the whole ''teach men to not rape rather than women how to protect themselves''. It doesn't make sense. |
Kibura_Iburasa said: Nicole said: Also, carrying a weapon makes you have far higher risk of being severe injured or killed, same as why having guns in the home increase danger, not reduce it. So you think the world should change to be completely none violent/rapey over night so you can walk through dark ally's at night but you also don't support women carrying something to defend themselves if they are attacked, instead they should what? not fight because the attacker might harm them more. Im confused on your message here. I don't support carrying weapons at all, but that's just me, if someone wants to carry something because it makes them feel safe, that's their choice, I personally, wouldn't. |
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Nicole said: I suppose it's rude to ask people to lock their doors at night as well?It's always amusing when these situations happen, that authorities seem to think that the way to stop rape is to make women change their behavior. |
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cabacc2 said: RedArmyShogun said: Knew this one guy for example that for shits and giggles sprayed himself in the face with it, then wipe it off after pretening he burned his eyes out. Later that day he looks at some of us and went. "Want to know what this is good for?" *Sprays it on his beef and rice plate and eats it* this is awesome! I knew that its possible to train your taste-sense and make it resistant to spice, but it works with your eyes aswell? Yeah, takes a bit of time, some eye drops as well. Its like most poisons and spices, work with them long enough or your parents did, then you'll build up a resistence as well. ITs why some ethnic groups have some food allergies and the like that some don't. I and some of the others had to do it, I didn't end up as well with him on it, but overall it just pisses me off. Heredity said: and what happens when you are that rare 'grabbed in a dark alley' girl? Rape my child, rape. |
cabacc2 said: But what if its the grim reaper and he's got no eyes or nose?A good countermeasure the victim can take is poking the rapists eye. Or just biting his nose off. Brutality can be quite off-turning. Or on-turning. In the second case, you're fucked, literally. Hell then again if death himself came to rape me, I wouldn't resist, then again I've cheated death a few times, its justified. |
Heredity said: i really want to know what you'd do if you were in the position of being raped or having any other violent thing happen to you. i really do. I have been in that situation. I don't think there is a point in answering this question, since the answer is obvious? You try to get away, it's not like having a knife or whatever is going to change the situation, it depends on too many different things to say that, however there is a clear increase in risk with having them. For example, what's a knife going to do if the guy is twice my size? |
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BryanBossling said: Nicole said: I suppose it's rude to ask people to lock their doors at night as well?It's always amusing when these situations happen, that authorities seem to think that the way to stop rape is to make women change their behavior. Very. |
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Heredity said: no, what you're doing isn't the dangerous behaviour. it's what other people could be doing that's dangerous. you're walking down the street at 1am, you're alone when BOOM- a masked man appears from behind a bush and bolts in your direction. what do you do? you're talking to a group of strangers when one of them asks you to come with him/her to the hallway or around the corner, away from your friends in order to talk in private. what do you do? a very popular event has just ended and it involved a lot of drinking and people, they're all out walking the streets. you want to go out and do something outside. these people are shouting, throwing things, and overall acting violent. should you go outside? and that the whole 'grabbed into a dark alley', are actually really rare. and what happens when you are that rare 'grabbed in a dark alley' girl?If I were walking down a street at 1 a.m, I'd have a self-defense weapon at hand and ready. There's no telling what type of person you'll run into, especially at that time. It would turn into a fight to the death The stranger shouldn't be able to do anything to you, all you have to do is scream if he/she pulls something. Unless you're gagged/hit with chloroform the moment you walk around the corner. Which then basically turns into a kidnapping unless they do it on the spot- which would be stupid Who the fuck would go in a dark alley? |
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RedArmyShogun said: you should really put a comma right after the first rape lolRape my child, rape. |
Heredity said: i don't know, stab him? the knife won't stop working. Easier said than done. |
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Heredity said: RedArmyShogun said: for a second there i thought you were telling me to rape your child, lol.Rape my child, rape. animeoppai said: RedArmyShogun said: you should really put a comma right after the first rape lolRape my child, rape. I'm a Doctor! Not a English Teacher, Jim! |
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