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Apr 6, 2014 4:26 AM
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In this arc there had been too much talking and almost no fighting. Did Togashi forget the part where he said this was an invasion? I thought that's what it was. I got mad when the king said he wouldn't fight, honestly this fight better deliver. I don't want no FT bullshit where something is built up only to have had no meaning in the first place. That's what happened to Gon vs Neferpitou, I was hyped, I was ready and then it just got drained. I don't even care about them anymore, the only one who isn't on this bullshit train is Youpi. He went in, he's the real deal, same with Netero.

A great character once said the battlefield is no place for sob stories. Togashi should take notes.
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Apr 6, 2014 4:43 AM
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In this arc there had been too much talking and almost no fighting. Did Togashi forget the part where he said this was an invasion? I thought that's what it was. I got mad when the king said he wouldn't fight, honestly this fight better deliver. I don't want no FT bullshit where something is built up only to have had no meaning in the first place. That's what happened to Gon vs Neferpitou, I was hyped, I was ready and then it just got drained. I don't even care about them anymore, the only one who isn't on this bullshit train is Youpi. He went in, he's the real deal, same with Netero.

A great character once said the battlefield is no place for sob stories. Togashi should take notes.

Agreed.
Apr 6, 2014 4:56 AM
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This anime is not for people who want mindless action. Go watch the big 3 for more explosive stuff. There's a tournament arc, a war and a new FT series going on right now.
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Apr 6, 2014 4:58 AM
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This anime is not for people who want mindless action. Go watch the big 3 for more explosive stuff. There's a tournament arc, a war and a new FT series going on right now.

This. Also, just have some patience, like seriously?
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Apr 6, 2014 5:00 AM
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-Zeaos said:
judals said:
This anime is not for people who want mindless action. Go watch the big 3 for more explosive stuff. There's a tournament arc, a war and a new FT series going on right now.

This. Also, just have some patience, like seriously?


He's not actually being sincere. He's just trying to troll. I'm 90% certain he already knows what happens in the manga anyway.

Now he's brown-nosing in the other thread to sound better lol.
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judals said:
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judals said:
This anime is not for people who want mindless action. Go watch the big 3 for more explosive stuff. There's a tournament arc, a war and a new FT series going on right now.

This. Also, just have some patience, like seriously?


He's not actually being sincere. He's just trying to troll. I'm 90% certain he already knows what happens in the manga anyway.

Probably, however I don't, and I really enjoyed all the episodes so far, this arc is perfection.
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Apr 6, 2014 5:12 AM
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I only expect Madhouse to finally understand Netero's attack. They're supposed to be fast and unpredictable. OK!
Apr 6, 2014 5:21 AM
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lol it's suck how manga reader complain

u already know what will happen of course u "don't care about them anymore"
because you only waiting for the parts you like in this arc , anything else just boring because you already know what done by this built up

we "manga reader" don't have rights to complain at anime
Apr 6, 2014 5:29 AM
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judals said:
This anime is not for people who want mindless action. Go watch the big 3 for more explosive stuff. There's a tournament arc, a war and a new FT series going on right now.
There is a difference between action and mindless action, I didn't say anything about mindless action but if you're not gonna deliver then don't give us something to look forward to. It's very typical of hxh fanboys to try justify everything and when they can't cover something up they point at Big 3 or whatever.
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Apr 6, 2014 5:37 AM

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GuusWayne said:
judals said:
This anime is not for people who want mindless action. Go watch the big 3 for more explosive stuff. There's a tournament arc, a war and a new FT series going on right now.
There is a difference between action and mindless action, I didn't say anything about mindless action but if you're not gonna deliver then don't give us something to look forward to. It's very typical of hxh fanboys to try justify everything and when they can't cover something up they point at Big 3 or whatever.


We do get action, just not mindless. So you just countered yourself. He gave us an encounter to look forward to, people who expected some hack and slash mindless action were disappointed, as were you, and people like us were delighted. No excuses here. Stating the observations.
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Apr 6, 2014 5:59 AM

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I just noticed that the series has a score of 8.88, I would say that Togashi work is well received so far and I doubt that it will change.
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judals said:
GuusWayne said:
judals said:
This anime is not for people who want mindless action. Go watch the big 3 for more explosive stuff. There's a tournament arc, a war and a new FT series going on right now.
There is a difference between action and mindless action, I didn't say anything about mindless action but if you're not gonna deliver then don't give us something to look forward to. It's very typical of hxh fanboys to try justify everything and when they can't cover something up they point at Big 3 or whatever.


We do get action, just not mindless. So you just countered yourself. He gave us an encounter to look forward to, people who expected some hack and slash mindless action were disappointed, as were you, and people like us were delighted. No excuses here. Stating the observations.
Throughout the entire arc when people were thinking about Gon and Neferpitou, Netero vs The King and this invasion everyone were expecting fights to break out, we had the entire arc to build up for this moment and the time for talk was over, everyone was expecting action at that point including hypocrites like you who're lying to themselves by saying no mindless action when truth is you're disappointed for not getting action at all and just more talking.
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Apr 6, 2014 6:08 AM

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GuusWayne said:

Throughout the entire arc when people were thinking about Gon and Neferpitou, Netero vs The King and this invasion everyone were expecting fights to break out

Yes. What I said. Some people expected (mindless) action.

we had the entire arc to build up for this moment

Something we rarely ever see.
And to spend that much time developing characters and the story is all the more reason to end it with character development and story, rather than selling out and just giving us a whole arc soaked in action. (can you guess which I'm thinking about?)




and the time for talk was over, everyone was expecting mindless action at that point including hypocrites like you who're lying to themselves by saying no mindless action when truth is you're disappointed for not getting action at all and just more talking.

Which brings me back to the point where I direct you to a tournament arc, a whole war and a new FT series going on right now.
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judals said:
GuusWayne said:
judals said:
This anime is not for people who want mindless action. Go watch the big 3 for more explosive stuff. There's a tournament arc, a war and a new FT series going on right now.
There is a difference between action and mindless action, I didn't say anything about mindless action but if you're not gonna deliver then don't give us something to look forward to. It's very typical of hxh fanboys to try justify everything and when they can't cover something up they point at Big 3 or whatever.


We do get action, just not mindless. So you just countered yourself. He gave us an encounter to look forward to, people who expected some hack and slash mindless action were disappointed, as were you, and people like us were delighted. No excuses here. Stating the observations.



what @Judals said is true and this is the togashi Style
but why "hxhtards" recommend see the "Big 3" and is simple its because the question is the same and the answer is this:
IF YOU WANT TO SEE MORE FIGHTs YOU SHOULD SEE THIS ANIME FULL OF CLICHES: FAIRY SHIT; NAFUCKTO, BLECH, ONE PIECE (everyone survives, the sword didnt cut, no plans, no character development, the friends are allways together, big boobs).
cronosteso23Apr 6, 2014 6:28 AM
Gintama: "The blade is not to cut down your enemies
Nor is it to cut away your own weakness
A sword isnt meant to protect your body
A sword is meant for protecting your soul"
Apr 6, 2014 6:31 AM

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Yeah, keep being in denial. You just don't want to admit your series is flawed. You don't even know what mindless is first of all, second mindless action would be better than no action unless you think all action is mindless I wouldn't be surprised and no, I'm having more fun seeing you defending this series.
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Apr 6, 2014 6:33 AM

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Yes, but non-mindless action that we are getting is still better than both mindless and no-action. See?

Your problem is trying to troll the series with some juvenile attempts, "agree with my wanting mindless action or you're in denial". You got some growing up to do.
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Apr 6, 2014 6:41 AM

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Yeah, keep being in denial. You just don't want to admit your series is flawed. You don't even know what mindless is first of all, second mindless action would be better than no action unless you think all action is mindless I wouldn't be surprised and no, I'm having more fun seeing you desperately defending this series.


of course I want more fights but i like the plot.
but @GuusWayne the fightings in hxh are really good and Meruem vs Netero is epic.

pd: But is contradictory in my case because i like the first episode of Fairy Tail because was a really good character designs in the new season. BUT THE END of this arc is so bad.
Gintama: "The blade is not to cut down your enemies
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A sword isnt meant to protect your body
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Apr 6, 2014 6:44 AM

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You don't build up a fight to only talk when you're supposed to fight. If this was the route you were gonna take then you don't give the viewers expectations to begin with and if you do then you live up to those expectations otherwise you lose credibility. I bet if next episode we got crazy fights you would be down with it but you're only now calling it mindless action. Shows your two-faced ass is the one who needs to grow up.
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It's your problem believing they were building up to a mere fight. Hence, the use of the mindless action phrase.
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Cronosteso wtf? And judals I think that your love for the series is amazing but it really isn't worth it. This thread is one giant flame bait, the intention of the OP couldn't be any more obvious.
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Then what were they building up for? A tea party? No the mission was to invade and exterminate the ants because they were a threat who would take over the world if they were not stopped. In such case, it's natural to expect a fight especially when one trained prior to the invasion for that very purpose and another was driven by revenge. You're just sounding stupid at this point, stop trying so hard.
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And the mission did start with exterminating them, but complexities (which were also built up and foreshadowed) arise, so that it deviated away from being a mindless action session. Unfortunately for you.

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Cronosteso wtf? And judals I think that your love for the series is amazing but it really isn't worth it. This thread is one giant flame bait, the intention of the OP couldn't be any more obvious.


I know it's obvious but the more we expose his type the better. :-P
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Apr 6, 2014 6:59 AM

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THE MISSION is separate the king from the royal guard
Gintama: "The blade is not to cut down your enemies
Nor is it to cut away your own weakness
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A sword is meant for protecting your soul"
Apr 6, 2014 7:05 AM

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There is nothing so complex that it should effects the mission. We were to believe these people were veteran hunters not gullible children
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Apr 6, 2014 7:14 AM

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*Clap...Clap*

The re-appearance of Guus... Nice thread and posts as always from you!!! Big fan of your work, please don't ever stop excite your admirers...
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Apr 6, 2014 7:19 AM

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GuusWayne said:
There is nothing so complex that it should effects the mission. We were to believe these people were veteran hunters not gullible children


But you forgot why knuckel is fighting?
Gon and killua invaded the palace to save Kite
NETERO IS THE MISSION because he has to defeat Meruem.
why Komugi is important.

IT AFFECTS THE MISSION
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A sword isnt meant to protect your body
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GuusWayne said:
There is nothing so complex that it should effects the mission. We were to believe these people were veteran hunters not gullible children


But you forgot why knuckel is fighting?
Gon and killua invaded the palace to save Kite
NETERO IS THE MISSION because he has to defeat Meruem.
why Komugi is important.

IT AFFECTS THE MISSION
Knuckle had a good fight even if what he did was completely stupid(deactivating potclean). Netero is also a beast because unlike these other cats he doesn't listen to bullshit and he's commited. Komugi is just one person, you know what I think? Togashi at the time just wanted to drag shit out for no reason when truth is this shit could've ended in 5 chapters infact the hunters weren't even needed.
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GuusWayne said:
cronosteso23 said:
GuusWayne said:
There is nothing so complex that it should effects the mission. We were to believe these people were veteran hunters not gullible children


But you forgot why knuckel is fighting?
Gon and killua invaded the palace to save Kite
NETERO IS THE MISSION because he has to defeat Meruem.
why Komugi is important.

IT AFFECTS THE MISSION
Knuckle had a good fight even if what he did was completely stupid(deactivating potclean). Netero is also a beast because unlike these other cats he doesn't listen to bullshit and he's commited. Komugi is just one person, you know what I think? Togashi at the time just wanted to drag shit out for no reason when truth is this shit could've ended in 5 chapters infact the hunters weren't even needed.


KNUCLE speech ep 87:" i dont like the idea of cutting off whatever doesnt filt the mold. My teachers says im just a softy. BUT YOU CANT JUDGE SOMETHING THAT YOUve NEVER SEEN BEFORE, first you have to exchange blows",
Komugi changed the plot. in my opinion shes not a normal person in this arc.

But Meruem vs Netero and Gon saves kite are the core of the Invasion and thats what im saying.

@GuusWayne, I respect your opinion but im not agree
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You're arguing with someone who when lost called the other person in denial, he's not actually trying to have a discussion, he just wants to keep talking.
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cronosteso23 said:
GuusWayne said:
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GuusWayne said:
There is nothing so complex that it should effects the mission. We were to believe these people were veteran hunters not gullible children


But you forgot why knuckel is fighting?
Gon and killua invaded the palace to save Kite
NETERO IS THE MISSION because he has to defeat Meruem.
why Komugi is important.

IT AFFECTS THE MISSION
Knuckle had a good fight even if what he did was completely stupid(deactivating potclean). Netero is also a beast because unlike these other cats he doesn't listen to bullshit and he's commited. Komugi is just one person, you know what I think? Togashi at the time just wanted to drag shit out for no reason when truth is this shit could've ended in 5 chapters infact the hunters weren't even needed.


KNUCLE speech ep 87:" i dont like the idea of cutting off whatever doesnt filt the mold. My teachers says im just a softy. BUT YOU CANT JUDGE SOMETHING THAT YOUve NEVER SEEN BEFORE, first you have to exchange blows",
Komugi changed the plot. in my opinion shes not a normal person in this arc.

But Meruem vs Netero and Gon saves kite are the core of the Invasion and thats what im saying.

@GuusWayne, I respect your opinion but im not agree
Well Knuckle definitely proved he was, showing tears every episode and not going through with the mission. Also those being the core for some reason happen to be the ones full of shit. They're not doing anything, Neferpitou and Pouf are pushovers, I'm glad Netero forced the King into fighting him. Also I didn't necessarily express my opinion for you to agree with it, atleast you're not fake like that other dude.
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I'm expecting the biggest asspull in any battle manga I've read, second only to Gon's against Pitou.

P.S: This is one of the most obvious flame bait threads I've seen in a while.

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I only expect Madhouse to finally understand Netero's attack. They're supposed to be fast and unpredictable. OK!

Ikr? that bugged me. They sorta ruined it, with the extension of his attacks. It's a fanservice I didn't like.


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Komugi is just one person

Actually I would argue that Komugi has more impact on the plot, than almost any other character. Take her out and the invasion would change drastically.
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I think you're just saying that to try and divert the attention from other asspulls, like the dozen I mentioend before. Of that other show.

But funny enough, none of these technically are. Not to forget, that they were explained anyway. (the former doesn't need explanation, common sense).
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SetsukoHara said:
I only expect Madhouse to finally understand Netero's attack. They're supposed to be fast and unpredictable. OK!

Ikr? that bugged me. They sorta ruined it, with the extension of his attacks. It's a fanservice I didn't like.


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Komugi is just one person

Actually I would argue that Komugi has more impact on the plot, than almost any other character. Take her out and the invasion would change drastically.

How was the attack not fast? Right as netero prepares to attack we can CLEARLY see time freeze for the king as netero's movement are so fast the kings sense of time has to be slowed down to a freeze JUST to be able to follow netero's after image with his eyes ... That's already shows how crazy fast the attack is. We are seeing the attack from the kings perspective and sense of time.
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How was the attack not fast? Right as netero prepares to attack we can CLEARLY see time freeze for the king as netero's movement are so fast the kings sense of time has to be slowed down to a freeze JUST to be able to follow netero's after image with his eyes ... That's already shows how crazy fast the attack is. We are seeing the attack from the kings perspective and sense of time.

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1120715&show=180#msg29597691
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Actually the attack was in a fraction of a second...time froze.... We can clearly deduce taht and see it (in the animation itself Meruem's face froze) based on Netero's past and attack in the episode 111....

I realize that but that wasn't in the manga. Time didn't freeze per se, in the manga or at least that what interpreted from it. The King saw the hand movements and then got chopped in an instant. In the anime, after the hand movements, we see the king watching that yellow aura expanding and the statue forming, for a while, until he finally gets chopped.

I don't know, I guess it's not a big deal, but I thought the added scenes, ruined that moment. Because it was supposed to be shocking, fast and unexpected for the reader as well.

http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/44/27-288.0/compressed/hunter_10.jpg?v=11227773808

http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/44/27-288.0/compressed/hunter_11.jpg?v=11227773808

http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/44/27-288.0/compressed/hunter_12_13.jpg?v=11227773808


http://www.batoto.net/read/_/20411/hunter-x-hunter_ch292_by_sleepyfans/3

So yes time did freeze for the king in the manga, also The king was watching the hand movement AND aura expands in the manga, he even has the same facial expression as the anime when we see his face freeze.
http://i.imgur.com/1keYYfx.jpg
http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/44/27-288.0/compressed/hunter_11.jpg?v=11227773808


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I'm not sure, what you are trying to say here. I just wanted the first attack to be unpredictable like it was in the manga. I didn't like the added scenes.
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I'm not sure, what you are trying to say here. I just wanted the first attack to be unpredictable like it was in the manga. I didn't like the added scenes.


There was no added scenes tho... everything was in the manga... The attack scene was just fluid in the anime as it would be a better viewing experience rather then have it be "visually" instantanous ( king see hand move, then CHOP) which would lead to animation of attack looking cheap.

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Anytime, I've seen that kind of effect (Where it looks like there are multiple hands) in manga, it has meant to be in slow-motion. I don't see why Hunter x Hunter should be any different.
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There will be a fight. And it'll be epic. 'nuff said.

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There will be a fight. And it'll be epic. 'nuff said.


This

Stop the flaming bullshit now.

People who have complaints should shut the fuck up

How did you watch 123 episodes without understanding this anime is not fight-based

Hate drama queens

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