| The population is growing. In order to have meat, we need animals. In order to have animals, we need a place for them to stay. here in Brazil, the main reason for cutting trees is to create places for animals to stay and make meat. But, in the future, we are going to count with more than 10 billions of people. There won't be space for both humans and animals. Meat is either going to become luxury, or we are going to have to stop eating it, or maybe we are going to have to cut all the trees we have left, which would bring consequences to the temperature. What do you people think about that? Are we going to have to stop eating meat in the future? |
lupadimFeb 15, 2014 1:37 PM
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| and proof or sources that this is even going to happen? >:/ i doubt it but if i had to stop eating meat i would. |
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Textric said: What? Ffs, all your posts are always lacking logic. It is a solid fact that the population on the Earth is growing. If everyone wants to eat meat, we really need animals, or do you think we are going to shit the meat? And in order to have animals, we need space, or do you think we are going to have animals living inside our houses? But in the future, we are going to need the most space as possible in order to create houses for humans. In other words, we lack space. In other words, I am not stating a fact, I am stating a possibility that is very likely to happen, and I backed it up with facts.and proof or sources that this is even going to happen? >:/ |
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| What? Just hold them in 2m² cages ~~ |
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| Ooor we could create a world government and set a population limit |
FirstFamiliar said: "This is a new law! Don't have sex! !!!!!!"Ooo order we could create a world government and set a population limit |
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| Can you send me some sort of source that states we are running out of space for animals? |
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lupadim said: FirstFamiliar said: "This is a new law! Don't have sex! !!!!!!"Ooo order we could create a world government and set a population limit Oh well, gotta sterilize the sex-crazed Brazilians then. |
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lupadim said: FirstFamiliar said: "This is a new law! Don't have sex! !!!!!!"Ooo order we could create a world government and set a population limit Or just use a condom or birth control |
| The rich will never give up eating meat. |
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Emnay said: We are not running out of space for animals; We just need to cut down some trees to make some new space. But cutting down trees has consequences as I previously stated. I am not sure if I can find the source, but around 80% of deforestation here in Brazil happens with the objective of opening room for animalsCan you send me some sort of source that states we are running out of space for animals? |
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lupadim said: Emnay said: We are not running out of space for animals; We just need to cut down some trees to make some new space. But cutting down trees has consequences as I previously stated. I am not sure if I can find the source, but around 80% of deforestation here in Brazil happens with the objective of opening room for animalsCan you send me some sort of source that states we are running out of space for animals? They do that to make money. You could simply import meat from other countries but then these people who hack down the forests will get unemployed lol |
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| >Reasonable argument for not eating meat. "I don't know how to cook." |
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lupadim said: Textric said: and proof or sources that this is even going to happen? >:/ What? Ffs, all your posts are always lacking logic. It is a solid fact that the population on the Earth is growing. If everyone wants to eat meat, we really need animals, or do you think we are going to shit the meat? And in order to have animals, we need space, or do you think we are going to have animals living inside our houses? But in the future, we are going to need the most space as possible in order to create houses for humans. In other words, we lack space. In other words, I am not stating a fact, I am stating a possibility that is very likely to happen, and I backed it up with facts. yes the population is growing but i am pretty sure that we will have come up with something by then. beside this is at least 10-20 years away until china and India industrialize (and so would N Korea) and beside if the population goes crazy a war would more likely happen if people didn't have meat. because food shortage are a major problem i am sure that they will be quickly solved. maybe i do have logic i just don't want to waste my time proving i do. |
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lupadim said: Emnay said: We are not running out of space for animals; We just need to cut down some trees to make some new space. But cutting down trees has consequences as I previously stated. I am not sure if I can find the source, but around 80% of deforestation here in Brazil happens with the objective of opening room for animalsCan you send me some sort of source that states we are running out of space for animals? From NatGeo: Deforestation said: Forests are cut down for many reasons, but most of them are related to money or to people’s need to provide for their families.The biggest driver of deforestation is agriculture. Farmers cut forests to provide more room for planting crops or grazing livestock. Often many small farmers will each clear a few acres to feed their families by cutting down trees and burning them in a process known as “slash and burn” agriculture. And from ScienceDaily: Agriculture is the direct driver for worldwide deforestation said: Agriculture is estimated to be the direct driver for around 80% of deforestation worldwide. In Latin America, commercial agriculture is the main direct driver, responsible for 2/3 of all cut forests, while in Africa and tropical Asia commercial agriculture and subsistence agriculture both account for one third of deforestation. |
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| There was a recent science news that made the headlines where they developed something like meat using molecular biology techniques. AKA cloning cells from cows and making a beef-like patty afterwards. I imagine they can go on mass-production soon. |
Shiratori99 said: It is very cheap to import meat from other countries...lupadim said: Emnay said: We are not running out of space for animals; We just need to cut down some trees to make some new space. But cutting down trees has consequences as I previously stated. I am not sure if I can find the source, but around 80% of deforestation here in Brazil happens with the objective of opening room for animalsCan you send me some sort of source that states we are running out of space for animals? They do that to make money. You could simply import meat from other countries but then these people who hack down the forests will get unemployed lol |
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| Op that is the most simplistic naive view i have ever seen. |
| I'd like to think we'd be colonizing other planets by then |
AfroRocker said: How?I'd like to think we'd be colonizing other planets by then |
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Monad said: Even more naive than "it hurts animals" or "it tastes bad"?Op that is the most simplistic naive view i have ever seen. |
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RdfsSayNSlash said: I am saying that if we still eat meat and educate the next generations to do so, the meat produces are going to cut down trees which is badOP what you're saying is that we should stop eating meat or there will be no meat for the future. All the foods are limited so if we use your logic we'd have no bloody food to eat. |
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lupadim said: AfroRocker said: How?I'd like to think we'd be colonizing other planets by then I dunno but I've heard that scientists have been thinking about it and I've read a few articles. If it happens in our lifetime I will take you out for a beer. |
| A lent.. OH wait.. that's not reasonable at all ahahahaha |
| I already stopped eating meat years ago, so I don't really care. lupadim said: Never heard of ebay?It is very cheap to import meat from other countries... |
Makomonogatari said: lupadim said: The best part is that you somehow actually exist.And the best part is that no one can prove it wrong |
geezdad said: Meat is not a iPhone, you have to be 100% sure it is good or else you will end up getting sickI already stopped eating meat years ago, so I don't really care. lupadim said: Never heard of ebay?It is very cheap to import meat from other countries... |
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| Really? Maybe I should cancel my order of t-bone steaks then. |
Makomonogatari said: lupadim said: The best part is that you somehow actually exist.And the best part is that no one can prove it wrong |
geezdad said: Yep, I'd do thatReally? Maybe I should cancel my order of t-bone steaks then. |
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| You have to cut down trees to farm crops as well |
JD2411 said: But crops are kinda treesYou have to cut down trees to farm crops as well I mean, they make photosynthesis |
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lupadim said: You can't eat a treeJD2411 said: But crops are kinda treesYou have to cut down trees to farm crops as well |
lupadim said: geezdad said: Meat is not a iPhone, you have to be 100% sure it is good or else you will end up getting sickI already stopped eating meat years ago, so I don't really care. lupadim said: Never heard of ebay?It is very cheap to import meat from other countries... Do it like Korea then: Buy some land in Africa and pay the local population to produce meat there. While their own population is starving they'll then happily export their meat to your country. Result: Everyone is happy (except for the starving Africans). |
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| killing is bad |
lupadim said: How's that naive?Monad said: Even more naive than "it hurts animals" or "it tastes bad"?Op that is the most simplistic naive view i have ever seen. |
Makomonogatari said: lupadim said: The best part is that you somehow actually exist.And the best part is that no one can prove it wrong |
JD2411 said: Thats your opinion.lupadim said: You can't eat a treeJD2411 said: But crops are kinda treesYou have to cut down trees to farm crops as well Shiratori99 said: Are you serious?lupadim said: geezdad said: Meat is not a iPhone, you have to be 100% sure it is good or else you will end up getting sickI already stopped eating meat years ago, so I don't really care. lupadim said: Never heard of ebay?It is very cheap to import meat from other countries... Do it like Korea then: Buy some land in Africa and pay the local population to produce meat there. While their own population is starving they'll then happily export their meat to your country. Result: Everyone is happy (except for the starving Africans). |
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| We're going to be able to produce meat synthetically. It's already been done in a few tests so it's only a matter of time. |
| i usually avoid meat because yeah, i'd rather not be eating the flesh of a formerly conscious creature all the time. although i still did on christmas and thanksgiving. i dont think its too horrible to eat meat but i also like the pure feeling i get from being vegetarian so yeah i stick with it. i rely on veggie burgers hardcore tho lol |
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Heredity said: I require sourceAs humans we require meat |
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lupadim said: Are you serious? Well, if you want cheap meat that's the way to go. It's the same with crops btw, which you'd need to import anyway if all of your population suddenly switched to being vegetarian. |
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lupadim said: you can't say something is facts without bringing sources or something to support your claims.. also, even if the population grows, we won't necessarily need more space for animals since there's plenty of it in the countryside in most countries.. also thisTextric said: What? Ffs, all your posts are always lacking logic. It is a solid fact that the population on the Earth is growing. If everyone wants to eat meat, we really need animals, or do you think we are going to shit the meat? And in order to have animals, we need space, or do you think we are going to have animals living inside our houses? But in the future, we are going to need the most space as possible in order to create houses for humans. In other words, we lack space. In other words, I am not stating a fact, I am stating a possibility that is very likely to happen, and I backed it up with facts.and proof or sources that this is even going to happen? >:/ Monad said: Op that is the most simplistic naive view i have ever seen. |
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lupadim said: Why should he give you sources of something that has been scientifically proven and published? Just go on google yourself.Heredity said: I require sourceAs humans we require meat "As a physician, it seems clear to me that there are considerable health benefits to eating animals. Current epidemiological data support the need for animal-derived nutrients to provide optimal brain health, in particular. For example, B12 and long-chain omega-3 fatty acids essential for the development of a healthy brain are concentrated only in animal products. Excluding animal products from your diet, on the other hand, carries significant risk. A recent survey of 689 men found 52 percent of the 122 vegans were vitamin B12 deficient, which leads to fatigue, depression, decreased cognition, and irreversible nerve damage. As we age, low B12 levels are associated with shrinkage in brain regions related to memory and moods." http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-farmacy/201205/do-happy-healthy-brains-need-meat http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/should-humans-eat-meat-excerpt/ |
KneelBeforeMeFeb 15, 2014 9:07 AM
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| humans don't require meat, people have lived vegetarian for thousands of years. you can avoid meat and still live a high energy lifestyle, you just get the protein in other ways. |
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Heredity said: I had a biology teacher that was vegetarian, and he was more healthy than me. I guess he is an alien?Sourire said: My favourite part about people who deny humans require meat is that they stress the fact that we're omnivores (which of course means we also need meat). Never mind our teeth, or the fact that we do not have the digestive system required for a non-meat diet.lupadim said: Why should he give you sources of something that has been scientifically proven and published? Just go on google yourself.Heredity said: I require sourceAs humans we require meat |
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lupadim said: or you're just unhealthy.. also you realize vegetarians still consume meat-derived products?Heredity said: I had a biology teacher that was vegetarian, and he was more healthy than me. I guess he is an alien?Sourire said: My favourite part about people who deny humans require meat is that they stress the fact that we're omnivores (which of course means we also need meat). Never mind our teeth, or the fact that we do not have the digestive system required for a non-meat diet.lupadim said: Why should he give you sources of something that has been scientifically proven and published? Just go on google yourself.Heredity said: I require sourceAs humans we require meat |
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lupadim said: Heredity said: I had a biology teacher that was vegetarian, and he was more healthy than me. I guess he is an alien?Sourire said: My favourite part about people who deny humans require meat is that they stress the fact that we're omnivores (which of course means we also need meat). Never mind our teeth, or the fact that we do not have the digestive system required for a non-meat diet.lupadim said: Why should he give you sources of something that has been scientifically proven and published? Just go on google yourself.Heredity said: I require sourceAs humans we require meat I had a biology teacher who was gay and seemed more healthy than me. So maybe we should all turn gay to stay healthy? |
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