| Are there words that coin these things? Sure, the "anime" vs "non-anime" debate managed to seep its way into the RPG genre, where y'have "JRPG" vs "RPG". But can this concept be extended to cover the rest of video games overall? |
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| Well it is pretty clear who makes the most popular 2d fighters. Horror games with Japanese origins do pretty good as well (or maybe they did at one point). I also don't recall any major non-japanese competitor to pokemon (or any at all really). Non-videogames - I'd say Yu-Gi-Oh and Magic The Gathering, both seem to be more popular in their respective areas of origin, while both being able to co-exist, but opinions are definitely varied. They have both come to the point where its big money or bust, especially when you look at Konami's choices on the banlist when releasing new cards. With rhythm games in perspective, your have movement based game like Dance Dance Revolution, which was probably one of if not the first of its kind and is ludicrously popular. However, instrument games (when comparing the most recent) seem to be dominated by the west. |
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D4rkseid said: Horror games with Japanese origins do pretty good as well (or maybe they did at one point). About horror, it's the same split as in with movies: one goes more for gore, the other one goes more for suspense. Still, they both tend to be quite bad unless it's an independent/relatively unknown title. When it comes to adventure games, I find that the Japanese ones seem to focus more on exploration while the non-Japanese ones focus more on puzzle solving. Driving and simulation games tend to be more realistic when they are made by occidental developers (here I admit that, maybe, it's just the games I've played). While RTS games seem to mostly be something from the west. |
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| well its hard for me to awnser because im a sega/sony/nintendo/capcom fan and recentlly i got hooked up to the "tales of" series i think japen got the BEST games ever made super mario world loz oot and more more MORE and im a platformer and rhythem gamer so... I F**KING LOVE JAPANESE GAMES! but sure i love other games from usa/france but still japanese win |
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| No really true answer because it's based on people taste/interest but I prefer Japanese game. |
| That depends on the genre. When it comes to 2D fighting games and shumps/danmaku - Japanese games don't have much competition (except for Mortal Kombat series). When it comes to TPP slashers (Prototype/Devil May Cry style) and platform games, Japan probably wins too (though some older Western platformers are really close). Indie/doujin game scene in general is infinitely better in Japan as well, but the West side is quickly improving, so it will catch up eventually. RPGs are hard to judge, due to significant differences between those genres on both sides, I'd say it's a draw (personally, I prefer Western-style titles though). When it comes to adventure games, if we count pure visual novels out (since they're hardly games), then the West probably wins - Phoenix Wright and all that stuff is awesome, but for me it can't beat good old point&click titles such as Monkey Island or Goblins. In most other genres (strategy games, FPS', Diablo-style hack&slash to name just a few), I'd say the West side wins. Well, when I was a more active gamer, I didn't have any contact with JP stuff at all, so I'm much more familiar with Western titles and probably slightly biased. Oh, but if we count visual novels and eroge too - Japan easily wins, since it doesn't have any real competition in those genres. :P |
| The west are better when it comes RPGs. Just play games like Mass Effect and The Elder Scrolls. Japan does everything else better. |
judgelethal said: The west are better when it comes RPGs. Just play games like Mass Effect and The Elder Scrolls. Japan does everything else better. That's a pretty broad statement considering some of the best strategy games are from the west. |
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judgelethal said: The west are better when it comes RPGs. Just play games like Mass Effect and The Elder Scrolls. Japan does everything else better. WRPGs are meh, Japan does way better when it comes to RPGs, the one thing the West does better than Japan in are RTS games, stuff like SRPGs are still done better by Japanese developers though. |
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| I prefer japanese games, I think 90% of games I play are made in Japan,because I usually play games on DS or GBA games on PSP. Many of japanese games have the same old-school feel, whitch I like better than western games, made to be mainstream. Sorry for my bad English, I hope you understand. |
| I'm trying to understand if the OP is asking for whether other members prefer non-Japanese or Japanese games, or if he is asking if there is a distinct separation between Japanese vs Non-Japanese games in other genres. If the latter, it really depends on whether there are commonalities that exist in the Japanese games of the genre vs the non-Japanese games of the same genre. For example, aren't there a number of stylized space shooters that you could lump into a J-space shooter category? |
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| I don't know what country most of my games come from. |
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judgelethal said: The west are better when it comes RPGs. Just play games like Mass Effect and The Elder Scrolls. Japan does everything else better. I'm the quite opposite. The last WRPG I really enjoyed was Dragon Age: Origins. Imo, Japan > West when it comes to the RPG genre. |
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| To be honest, each has their own culture. I really love the fact that the Japanese ALWAYS put so much effort into their OST's and characters. If you think about it, pretty much ALL the famous soundtracks in video-games come from Japanese titles.' On the other hand, most other games are more westernized and focus particularly on the quality and amount of gameplay it allows. I honestly like each the same, but there are things I would like to change with each, the Japanese games could broaden out their genres a bit, and non-Japanese games could tone down with the zombies and the FPS-cumfests. |
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judgelethal said: The west are better when it comes RPGs. Just play games like Mass Effect and The Elder Scrolls. Japan does everything else better. This statement applies to me not at all. Western developers make good first person shooters. And probably sports. JRPG's are the only RPG's I can ever get into, no matter how many others I try. Of course this is my opinion. |
NoSurrender1690 said: jpem said: NoSurrender1690 said: Neither tell them all that well, overall.Hoppy said: judgelethal said: The west are better when it comes RPGs. Just play games like Mass Effect and The Elder Scrolls. Japan does everything else better. WRPGs are meh, Japan does way better when it comes to RPGs, the one thing the West does better than Japan in are RTS games, stuff like SRPGs are still done better by Japanese developers though. this by far is the truth Japan tells better stoies in there RPGs by far sorry but FF VI XenoSaga >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any Modern day US made RPG Let's be consistent, if you are talking about older games, there's Planescape Torment, Deus Ex, Legacy of Kain, Ultima VII, etc. on the western side. If you are talking about modern games: how many modern Square Enix games have well done stories? About zero ;-) |
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| the only Japanese games I've played are all JRPGS. This is long before I got into anime. I pretty much fell in love with the story telling, OST, etc. I'm a huge nerd of orchestrated Final Fantasy/JRPG music. JRPGs tend to be more linear and story driven. WRPGs are more sand boxy and less linear in nature, but not as story driven as JRPGS. I've played Fallout, Skyrim, Oblivion, Dragon Age etc but they do not have the same charm on me as JRPGs do. There is like 0 character development in most WRPGs and most of the time I feel like I'm playing a single player MMORPG. |
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| I don't know, there were like 5 japanese games I truly enjoyed in recent years, everything else from the land of the rising sun weren't that remarkable at all. On contrast there is 5-6 highly entertaining western games every year and dozens that while not groundbreaking still pretty good. There is more variety in western games and I dare to say more creativity. But in the end to each his own. |
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| well about platformer... theres only 2 weastren platformers i like rachet and clank and rayman and in platformers anyone know the two stars of the genre mario and sonic who can win those 2? and i just LOVE THEM! my first game ever was super mario world for snes which is AWESOME!! i played it like 5-6 times and im a sonic fan! i just love the speed :D so i think in platformers japen still take the crown easily! |
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Thrashinuva said: judgelethal said: The west are better when it comes RPGs. Just play games like Mass Effect and The Elder Scrolls. Japan does everything else better. This statement applies to me not at all. Western developers make good first person shooters. And probably sports. JRPG's are the only RPG's I can ever get into, no matter how many others I try. Of course this is my opinion. Yea true. Borderlands 2 and MW2 are good FPS games and I still have to see a Japanese FPS top those games. |
snaphat said: NoSurrender1690 said: jpem said: NoSurrender1690 said: Neither tell them all that well, overall.Hoppy said: judgelethal said: The west are better when it comes RPGs. Just play games like Mass Effect and The Elder Scrolls. Japan does everything else better. WRPGs are meh, Japan does way better when it comes to RPGs, the one thing the West does better than Japan in are RTS games, stuff like SRPGs are still done better by Japanese developers though. That limited ancient game better than ME2, Fallout 3, and Skyrim? I dare you to say that at E3. They'll laugh at you. this by far is the truth Japan tells better stoies in there RPGs by far sorry but FF VI XenoSaga >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any Modern day US made RPG Let's be consistent, if you are talking about older games, there's Planescape Torment, Deus Ex, Legacy of Kain, Ultima VII, etc. on the western side. If you are talking about modern games: how many modern Square Enix games have well done stories? About zero ;-) |
turbografx16 said: jap videogames all the way, though i vastly prefer old wrpgs to jrpgs honestly - it's hard for a jrpg to hold my attention A post like this - I'm going to assume such a person cannot tell, if a racing game or platformer came from Japan or not. elemein said: Weird how some of my favourite games are Korean. What do I do then? Anyways. They both have their distinctive strengths. Racing games are distinctly western. Most Japanese racing games are pretty meh to absolutely god awful. No amount of Gran Turismo or Forza will fix that (both or which, suck massively.) If you want a Sim, you play GTR2, if you want and arcade you play NFS and if you want something in between you play GRiD. Period. Its just a product of the culture; american car culture is innately larger than Japanese. Both cultures have great RPGs. The west has Baldur's Gate and Diablo and Japan has Final Fantasy and etc. Dont mention Skyrim; its properly bad without mods. Sandbox games are american. Period. Minecraft, GTA, etc. FPSs are american. Period. No explanation needed. Tactic games go to Japan by far. Fire Emblem, Ys Chronicles, Disagea, Luminous Arc, Advanced Wars, Final Fantasy Tactics. RTS games go to America since Japan has little to nothing to compete. Fighting games go to Japan. Mortal Combat is pretty shallow in comparison to Guilty Gear and etc. Platformers go to Japan for obvious reasons. Awesomenauts is meh. Puzzlers could go either way. Some Mahjong fans would castrate me if I said the west were better, and for good reason. Although one of my favorite games that dont belong to either country is Mabinogi. Thats Korean and holy moly does it ever kickass. Shoot 'em Ups. Japan. Beat 'em Ups. Japan. Racing games. Mostly Japan. Though, I don't know of any American racing game. Cruising World, perhaps? Board games. Primarily US. Things like Monopoly, Scrabble, etc. |
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elemein said: Those are board games, not video games. http://www.gamestop.com/ds/games/scrabble/73065 I'm referring to things like that, regarding "board games". It's certainly not a puzzle game. === My bottom line here is: Games of genres other than RPG - no one really cares whether it's made in Japan or not. |
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KyuuAL said: Racing games. Mostly Japan. Though, I don't know of any American racing game. Cruising World, perhaps? Seriously? Forza? Need for Speed? Grid? Dirt? Burnout? |
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| I prefer western video games because I like FPS, RTS AND TBS games but I don't like RPGs (except for super hero RPGs). The only Japanese games I like are fighting games like Street Fighter, Marvel vs Capcom etc. |
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| The only Japanese games I play are JRPG's. Everything else is western since WRPG's are kinda shit. |
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