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Sep 20, 2012 7:03 PM
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I have been very skeptical of this game ever since i saw what platinum games did with the first trailer, though i can say after watching this trailer that this is looking more and more like a true metal gear game. its looking like the game we all wanted when we were chopping up dudes in the finale to mgs 2 with raiden's sword as well as us wishing to play as him when he was kicking ass in 4



my only con with it is i feel they showed off to many of the bosses in this trailer

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Sep 20, 2012 7:58 PM
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So where in the fuck is suppose to be taken place in metal gear solid universe, Raiden nearly died just fighting Vamp and he couldn't even do a fraction of this shit in MGS 4

I don't understand why they didn't just make an original game.
It doesn't think, it doesn't feel, it doesn't laugh or cry..... All it does from dusk till dawn is make the soldiers die.
Sep 20, 2012 8:09 PM
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Jigero said:
So where in the fuck is suppose to be taken place in metal gear solid universe, Raiden nearly died just fighting Vamp and he couldn't even do a fraction of this shit in MGS 4

I don't understand why they didn't just make an original game.
This is supposed to be after MGS4 now. When Kojima Productions screwed up Rising and basically went crying to Platinum Games, Platinum just decided to say fuck it and put it after MGS4 so they wouldn't have to bother with the old games. So yeah, explanation for how Jack turned into a sad sack in MGS4? Who cares, we needed cool cyborg action courtesy of Platinum Games who only KNOW about crazy action.

I think I can consider this series officially over and ignore anything new they shit out.

Sep 20, 2012 8:26 PM
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Well there is MGS Ground Zeroes coming up
Sep 21, 2012 12:27 AM
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The fact that it takes place after MGS4 really makes me cringe. I thought Raiden's ending was perfect in MGS4. To have him regain his self-worth and have a family, it's almost upsetting to see them mindlessly throw him back into combat after that.

I'll play the game though, it'll probably have interesting game mechanics. I liked Vanquish a lot, so I'll try to keep an open mind.
Sep 21, 2012 12:40 AM
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The fact that it takes place after MGS4 really makes me cringe. I thought Raiden's ending was perfect in MGS4. To have him regain his self-worth and have a family, it's almost upsetting to see them mindlessly throw him back into combat after that.

I'll play the game though, it'll probably have interesting game mechanics. I liked Vanquish a lot, so I'll try to keep an open mind.
Heard its not really canon. So don't look so deep into it.
Sep 21, 2012 2:47 AM
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Sorry, but I'm pretty much done with everything that takes place after MGS 4, Kojima clearly told us that MGS 4 is the "Last" MGS game in the series. It was an great ending.

Why the fuck do you ruin it??

Not every franchise needs to be endless. Seriously I remember back in 2008 when Kojima came to Amsterdam at the MGS 4 premiere, still got his autograph on my MGS 3 cover.

When I look at that autograph I'm suddenly pissed.
Sep 21, 2012 3:38 AM
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are you people seriously getting up and arms over a NON CANNON COMPLETLY HYPOTHETICAL ALTERNATE TIMELINE FOR EVENTS 7 YEARS AFTER A GAME

seriously people what the fuck

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Sep 21, 2012 3:40 AM
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Shoryuuken said:
Sorry, but I'm pretty much done with everything that takes place after MGS 4, Kojima clearly told us that MGS 4 is the "Last" MGS game in the series. It was an great ending.
yah thats why A: this isnt mgs, its mgr, and B: its non cannon

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Sep 21, 2012 4:17 AM

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DJIzzyIzzyHitler said:
Shoryuuken said:
Sorry, but I'm pretty much done with everything that takes place after MGS 4, Kojima clearly told us that MGS 4 is the "Last" MGS game in the series. It was an great ending.
yah thats why A: this isnt mgs, its mgr, and B: its non cannon


I see.... >_> me getting butthurt for nothing.
Sep 21, 2012 4:40 AM

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Canon or not, it should have been an original game. I'm not going to forget the previous events. Kojima should have devised an original story when Platinum Games came to him. Even a new cyborg ninja within the MGS universe would have been better. Although, I preferred Gray Fox being the only one, so I'd rather have an original game.
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Sep 21, 2012 11:47 AM
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DJIzzyIzzyHitler said:
are you people seriously getting up and arms over a NON CANNON COMPLETLY HYPOTHETICAL ALTERNATE TIMELINE FOR EVENTS 7 YEARS AFTER A GAME

seriously people what the fuck
Because if Platinum wanted a game about a cyborg ninja THEY COULD JUST MAKE SOME NEW ONE RATHER THAN PIGGYBACK ON METAL GEAR"S POPULARITY !

Sep 21, 2012 12:08 PM

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Not in the mood fora beat'em up game.
Sep 21, 2012 12:12 PM

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I guess this will make up for no Bayonetta 2. ;_;
Sep 21, 2012 12:33 PM

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Leon-Gun said:
DJIzzyIzzyHitler said:
are you people seriously getting up and arms over a NON CANNON COMPLETLY HYPOTHETICAL ALTERNATE TIMELINE FOR EVENTS 7 YEARS AFTER A GAME

seriously people what the fuck
Because if Platinum wanted a game about a cyborg ninja THEY COULD JUST MAKE SOME NEW ONE RATHER THAN PIGGYBACK ON METAL GEAR"S POPULARITY !
they didnt want to make a ninja cyborg games, the story behind this is it started out as metal gear rising, due to technical problems as well as need for work on metal gear ground zeroes the project was cancelled, platinum games offered to finish up the game themselves using the same plot written by kojima(with a few changes such as making it after 4) and using the same set pieces of course with some changes + changing the name to metal gear reavengence

they arent piggy backing on popularity, they are finishing up a game that otherwise would never of been finished if they didnt step up.

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Sep 21, 2012 12:49 PM

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The only thing that bothers me is that this isn't a prequel. Unless they show how Raiden got so badass then I'm good.
Sep 21, 2012 2:05 PM

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Hvesier said:
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The only thing that bothers me is that this isn't a prequel. Unless they show how Raiden got so badass then I'm good.


This, and the fact that it's seems to be missing the human enemies from the original footage.

I was hoping to slice up people and not just cyborgs, oh well.
They still are human as well as being full of blood, a tech demo played a couple months back(by none other than hideo kojima himself) had him slicing up a bunch of normal foot soldiers as well as probably the first decapitation shown by this game

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Sep 21, 2012 3:51 PM

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This game's considered canon to the MGS universe according to this video.
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Sep 21, 2012 5:33 PM

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Otaku-Ninja said:


This game's considered canon to the MGS universe according to this video.

hideo kojima said:
"We’ve only said that the period setting is several years after MGS4. Metal Gear Rising is not part of the Metal Gear Solid series or timeline. At present, we can’t say more than this."
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Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Sep 21, 2012 6:58 PM

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DJIzzyIzzyHitler said:
are you people seriously getting up and arms over a NON CANNON COMPLETLY HYPOTHETICAL ALTERNATE TIMELINE FOR EVENTS 7 YEARS AFTER A GAME

seriously people what the fuck


Then why not just make an original game?

Why does this even need to be tied to MGS?

Why does it even need Raiden in it?

Oh wait....



that's why...

JigeroSep 21, 2012 7:01 PM
It doesn't think, it doesn't feel, it doesn't laugh or cry..... All it does from dusk till dawn is make the soldiers die.
Sep 22, 2012 1:17 AM

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Can't say Jigs is lying.
Sep 22, 2012 2:43 AM

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I believe we all know that every great video game series usually lives long enough to watch themselves become the villian(Mass Effect) or exit with a whimper of crappy sequels(Sonic franchise), Metal Gear Solid is no exception. DJIzzy seems to be adamantly against this school of thought apparently and he is entitled to that opinion. All I can say is to reiterate my first post, which is that I am extremely skeptical of the story-line they have chosen for this game but will try to hold further judgement for when I play the game.

Also, the game isn't a stealth-action game either, which is the bread and butter of MGS gameplay. I'll admit that I'm also a little skeptical about this as well.
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I believe we all know that every great video game series usually lives long enough to watch themselves become the villian(Mass Effect) or exit with a whimper of crappy sequels(Sonic franchise), Metal Gear Solid is no exception. DJIzzy seems to be adamantly against this school of thought apparently and he is entitled to that opinion. All I can say is to reiterate my first post, which is that I am extremely skeptical of the story-line they have chosen for this game but will try to hold further judgement for when I play the game.

Also, the game isn't a stealth-action game either, which is the bread and butter of MGS gameplay. I'll admit that I'm also a little skeptical about this as well.
Well, I know this series is more or less "dead" to Kojima" now that SOlid Snake is not the protagonist. He always said that. Anything they do with it now is just to grab more money. And if he says otherwise now he will be contradicting what he said countless times before MGS4 where he said the story they were following dies with Snake. He did said crap like "the series itself will move on" but that's just saying "eh, we will make money grabs for the fans since fans are gullible like that".

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Raiden and a partner seem to be working for a prime minister of some country and is working with a pmc as a cyborg.

From the dialog about how Raiden says his sword is about saving lives, it sounds like they are giving something of a Rurouni Kenshin edge to the story and with Raiden's character and how he has to come to terms with his past, etc.

It feels different from other games, and I look forward to it.

The game is expected to do well in Japan since Raiden is a popular character over there.
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I am pretty excited for it. It's defiantly not a conventional metal gear game. But it does deliver on everything that fans wanted after seeing Raiden in MGS4. I mean come on who did not want to play as cyborg Raiden and slice n dice and jump around all over. I am prepared for a sever let down tho just in case. Ill just have to wait and play it before I make a final judgment.
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I am pretty excited for it. It's defiantly not a conventional metal gear game. But it does deliver on everything that fans wanted after seeing Raiden in MGS4. I mean come on who did not want to play as cyborg Raiden and slice n dice and jump around all over. I am prepared for a sever let down tho just in case. Ill just have to wait and play it before I make a final judgment.
Not me. I liked him before. His transformation into a depressed, ridiculously powerful badass was just fan service for all the hate he received for MGS2.
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kenpachiz1911 said:
I am pretty excited for it. It's defiantly not a conventional metal gear game. But it does deliver on everything that fans wanted after seeing Raiden in MGS4. I mean come on who did not want to play as cyborg Raiden and slice n dice and jump around all over. I am prepared for a sever let down tho just in case. Ill just have to wait and play it before I make a final judgment.
Not me. I liked him before. His transformation into a depressed, ridiculously powerful badass was just fan service for all the hate he received for MGS2.


I really liked Raiden in mgs2, he was the most messed up character in game history. (in the positive way)
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Ezekiel said:
kenpachiz1911 said:
I am pretty excited for it. It's defiantly not a conventional metal gear game. But it does deliver on everything that fans wanted after seeing Raiden in MGS4. I mean come on who did not want to play as cyborg Raiden and slice n dice and jump around all over. I am prepared for a sever let down tho just in case. Ill just have to wait and play it before I make a final judgment.
Not me. I liked him before. His transformation into a depressed, ridiculously powerful badass was just fan service for all the hate he received for MGS2.


I really liked Raiden in mgs2, he was the most messed up character in game history. (in the positive way)
And that's how he was supposed to be. Then suddenly "bam" Depressed loony with cybernetic body.... and no explanation for it other than "it happenned after rescuing SUnny". Yeah.....what?

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My self I couldn't stand Raiden is MGS2 he was so lame. He was like a lost little puppy. Ill take MGS4 Raiden any day of the week over MGS2 Raiden. MGS4 was a driven near unstoppable force to be reckoned with. But that's just me though, I am a fan of overwhelming power.
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kenpachiz1911 said:
I mean come on who did not want to play as cyborg Raiden and slice n dice and jump around all over..


I don't, making him a cyborg ninja it was possibly the most heavy handed and transparent pathetic attempt to make a really uninteresting character appeal to mindless fan boys, I've seen in gaming.
It doesn't think, it doesn't feel, it doesn't laugh or cry..... All it does from dusk till dawn is make the soldiers die.

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