| Do you think it was a turn of the century thing or did Lain's writer just rip off Anno? Edit: I'm not saying they're literally similiar because obviously the majority of things are different between them, just the idea of collective consciousness in both come from very similiar points of view about metaphysics. |
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Enjolras1830 said: boating92 said: Do you think it was a turn of the century thing or did Lain's writer just rip off Anno? alot of stuff ripped of Eva Lain is not one of them How do you know? The idea of abandoning your body and being all connected consciousness is present in both. Eva uses Lilith, Lain uses the internet. |
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| /hasn't watch either nor do I plan to, cept the Eva movies. Popular anime influences other anime. Expecting this thread to turn into another "NOTHING R ORIGINAL" thread. |
Paul said: /hasn't watch either nor do I plan to, cept the Eva movies. Popular anime influences other anime. Expecting this thread to turn into another "NOTHING R ORIGINAL" thread. >not planning to watch the greatest anime at least since 1990 if not all time >planning to watch the shitty mainstreamed rehash that isn't half as good as the original WHY would you do this? You're interested enough to watch Rebuild but not the superior original? you're a fucking idiot. your opinion is veto'd and means nothing. |
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Paul said: /hasn't watch either nor do I plan to, cept the Eva movies. Popular anime influences other anime. Expecting this thread to turn into another "NOTHING R ORIGINAL" thread. And guess what, if they both had the same thoughts unrelated to each other, it's original. If the writer of Lain saw Eva and was influenced, that's not original. |
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boating92 said: Paul said: /hasn't watch either nor do I plan to, cept the Eva movies. Popular anime influences other anime. Expecting this thread to turn into another "NOTHING R ORIGINAL" thread. >not planning to watch the greatest anime at least since 1990 if not all time >planning to watch the shitty mainstreamed rehash that isn't half as good as the original WHY would you do this? You're interested enough to watch Rebuild but not the superior original? you're a fucking idiot. your opinion is veto'd and means nothing. lolopinions |
rederoin said: boating92 said: Paul said: /hasn't watch either nor do I plan to, cept the Eva movies. Popular anime influences other anime. Expecting this thread to turn into another "NOTHING R ORIGINAL" thread. >not planning to watch the greatest anime at least since 1990 if not all time >planning to watch the shitty mainstreamed rehash that isn't half as good as the original WHY would you do this? You're interested enough to watch Rebuild but not the superior original? you're a fucking idiot. your opinion is veto'd and means nothing. lolopinions Pretty much the reason why I don't want to watch. |
rederoin said: boating92 said: Paul said: /hasn't watch either nor do I plan to, cept the Eva movies. Popular anime influences other anime. Expecting this thread to turn into another "NOTHING R ORIGINAL" thread. >not planning to watch the greatest anime at least since 1990 if not all time >planning to watch the shitty mainstreamed rehash that isn't half as good as the original WHY would you do this? You're interested enough to watch Rebuild but not the superior original? you're a fucking idiot. your opinion is veto'd and means nothing. lolopinions Unless you're willing to back that up and explain why you think 'opinions' about anything are subjective, yeah. The original is better than rebuild. Full stop. |
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Paul said: rederoin said: boating92 said: Paul said: /hasn't watch either nor do I plan to, cept the Eva movies. Popular anime influences other anime. Expecting this thread to turn into another "NOTHING R ORIGINAL" thread. >not planning to watch the greatest anime at least since 1990 if not all time >planning to watch the shitty mainstreamed rehash that isn't half as good as the original WHY would you do this? You're interested enough to watch Rebuild but not the superior original? you're a fucking idiot. your opinion is veto'd and means nothing. lolopinions Pretty much the reason why I don't want to watch. You don't want to watch it because people acknowledge it's good? |
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boating92 said: rederoin said: boating92 said: Paul said: /hasn't watch either nor do I plan to, cept the Eva movies. Popular anime influences other anime. Expecting this thread to turn into another "NOTHING R ORIGINAL" thread. >not planning to watch the greatest anime at least since 1990 if not all time >planning to watch the shitty mainstreamed rehash that isn't half as good as the original WHY would you do this? You're interested enough to watch Rebuild but not the superior original? you're a fucking idiot. your opinion is veto'd and means nothing. lolopinions Unless you're willing to back that up and explain why you think 'opinions' about anything are subjective, yeah. The original is better than rebuild. Full stop. It was a actually a reply to you calling him a idiot for him having a different opinion than you. I also disagree with it being one of the best anime ever, but that's another issue and not related to this thread. |
| ''The authors have been asked in interviews if they had been influenced by Neon Genesis Evangelion, in the themes and graphic design. This was strictly denied by writer Chiaki J. Konaka in an interview, arguing that he had not seen Evangelion until he finished the fourth episode of Lain.'' just in case this community ever gets any real discussion done |
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boating92 said: You don't want to watch it because people acknowledge it's good? I guess that's a possible answer but no, to put it simple, I don't feel like it. I'll be honest too, I actually have watched NGE, at least half of it, but for some reason stopped. Lost of interest I guess and I honestly didn't find it as memorable as people made it to be as I barely remembered what I watched from it. It's not reasonable enough? Well it's not much different than if I told you/everyone to go watch the top 10 anime on this site with the reason being "because they're the top 10 anime". |
| Do elaborate. I don't think they're necessarily related. A friend of mine found various deep connections between the internet and the collective consciousness during one of his relapses without watching either show. |
| Just started watching Lain I hope it's a mindf*ck like NGE ending |
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| i'm glad i didn't watch lain after all. :O |
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Angel_Beats said: i'm glad i didn't watch lain after all. :O a lot of people like this show but even I don't know why |
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boating92 said: ''The authors have been asked in interviews if they had been influenced by Neon Genesis Evangelion, in the themes and graphic design. This was strictly denied by writer Chiaki J. Konaka in an interview, arguing that he had not seen Evangelion until he finished the fourth episode of Lain.'' just in case this community ever gets any real discussion done And then he fell in love with it, hence Digimon Tamers being "Eva for kids". |
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boating92 said: Enjolras1830 said: boating92 said: Do you think it was a turn of the century thing or did Lain's writer just rip off Anno? alot of stuff ripped of Eva Lain is not one of them How do you know? The idea of abandoning your body and being all connected consciousness is present in both. Eva uses Lilith, Lain uses the internet. But... Also, it's true that they focus on similar aspects of existence, but they don't even do it in the same basis. The idea of Serial Experiments Lain is that there is no proof to consider that the virtual world is less real than the so-called "real" world. While Neon Genesis Evangelion doesn't focus on this skeptical view, but rather on the loss of consciousness by Shinji. Evangelion assumes that there is a measurable reality, Lain doesn't. |
jal90Aug 18, 2012 1:08 PM
| Actually, planning to watch the Evangelion movies while avoiding the series is a quite absurd decision. |
| They're not really that similar. The answer to your question is: great minds think alike. |
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boating92 said: >not planning to watch the greatest anime at least since 1990 if not all time >planning to watch the shitty mainstreamed rehash that isn't half as good as the original WHY would you do this? You're interested enough to watch Rebuild but not the superior original? you're a fucking idiot. your opinion is veto'd and means nothing. The original wasn't all that great now. Also, why would you call someone an idiot for not watching the original? Calm down, I understand you must like the show a lot, but how would you expect people to answer you with calling someone a fucking idiot and saying their opinion means nothing? On the other hand. I've seen the original series too many times as a kid and re-watched it about a month ago and I own both of the movies. I'd have to say that the movies are infinitely better than that overrated show. Lain, on the other hand to me was completely original to me, and I wanted to see the end because of the build-up to it rather than me just wanting to see the end of EVA just so I can get it over with. Also Lain as a character was much more intriguing instead of the bland Shinji, the bitch Asuka, or the half dead Rei. I liked the development of Lain through the show rather than Shinji always complaining and bitching through half the show. Me also not being much of a mech fan outside of Gundam, I was disappointed by the fight scenes in the original rather than the movies. The ending of Lain to me was a real mind fuck, on the other hand the ending of EVA felt like Gainax just gave up without really trying in the first place. To me EVA isn't as influential as shows such as Lain and Ghost in the Shell |
lime93Aug 18, 2012 3:28 PM
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jal90 said: Actually, planning to watch the Evangelion movies while avoiding the series is a quite absurd decision. I never suggest the Rebuild firts. but why not. not going to spoiled anything about the rebuild and the original series tought. If you really are intelligent you will know by now, that the remakes series really are a remake. - :] lime93 said: boating92 said: >not planning to watch the greatest anime at least since 1990 if not all time >planning to watch the shitty mainstreamed rehash that isn't half as good as the original WHY would you do this? You're interested enough to watch Rebuild but not the superior original? you're a fucking idiot. your opinion is veto'd and means nothing. The original wasn't all that great now. Also, why would you call someone an idiot for not watching the original? Calm down, I understand you must like the show a lot, but how would you expect people to answer you with calling someone a fucking idiot and saying their opinion means nothing? On the other hand. I've seen the original series too many times as a kid and re-watched it about a month ago and I own both of the movies. I'd have to say that the movies are infinitely better than that overrated show. Lain, on the other hand to me was completely original to me, and I wanted to see the end because of the build-up to it rather than me just wanting to see the end of EVA just so I can get it over with. Also Lain as a character was much more intriguing instead of the bland Shinji, the bitch Asuka, or the half dead Rei. I liked the development of Lain through the show rather than Shinji always complaining and bitching through half the show. Me also not being much of a mech fan outside of Gundam, I was disappointed by the fight scenes in the original rather than the movies. The ending of Lain to me was a real mind fuck, on the other hand the ending of EVA felt like Gainax just gave up without really trying in the first place. lime93 said: boating92 said: >not planning to watch the greatest anime at least since 1990 if not all time >planning to watch the shitty mainstreamed rehash that isn't half as good as the original WHY would you do this? You're interested enough to watch Rebuild but not the superior original? you're a fucking idiot. your opinion is veto'd and means nothing. The original wasn't all that great now. Also, why would you call someone an idiot for not watching the original? Calm down, I understand you must like the show a lot, but how would you expect people to answer you with calling someone a fucking idiot and saying their opinion means nothing? On the other hand. I've seen the original series too many times as a kid and re-watched it about a month ago and I own both of the movies. I'd have to say that the movies are infinitely better than that overrated show. Lain, on the other hand to me was completely original to me, and I wanted to see the end because of the build-up to it rather than me just wanting to see the end of EVA just so I can get it over with. Also Lain as a character was much more intriguing instead of the bland Shinji, the bitch Asuka, or the half dead Rei. I liked the development of Lain through the show rather than Shinji always complaining and bitching through half the show. Me also not being much of a mech fan outside of Gundam, I was disappointed by the fight scenes in the original rather than the movies. The ending of Lain to me was a real mind fuck, on the other hand the ending of EVA felt like Gainax just gave up without really trying in the first place. He firts says that is a overrated show, yet he OWN'S both movie's. Now he is saying that the characters [main] ALL of them are BAD. #Really? I did't like some Fights in the rebuild. and Than again i like Some Fights Better than the original. |
OhNastiAug 18, 2012 3:35 PM
juniiflow said: jal90 said: Actually, planning to watch the Evangelion movies while avoiding the series is a quite absurd decision. I never suggest the Rebuild firts. but why not. not going to spoiled anything about the rebuild and the original series tought. If you really are intelligent you will know by now, that the remakes series really are a remake. - :] That's the point actually. If you already know that the Rebuild is a remake, it doesn't matter if you choose the series or the movies: it's the same stuff. And as the Rebuild is unfinished it will require some additional following effort. |
jal90 said: juniiflow said: jal90 said: Actually, planning to watch the Evangelion movies while avoiding the series is a quite absurd decision. I never suggest the Rebuild firts. but why not. not going to spoiled anything about the rebuild and the original series tought. If you really are intelligent you will know by now, that the remakes series really are a remake. - :] That's the point actually. If you already know that the Rebuild is a remake, it doesn't matter if you choose the series or the movies: it's the same stuff. And as the Rebuild is unfinished it will require some additional following effort. Nope,you did not get it, they are not the same AT ALL. just watch when 3.0 comes out. or go ahead and watch the trailer. but still he could watch the remake and it will be fine, yet i suggest him to watch the original series, especially the end of evangelion. after that go watch the remakes. and that is how you know that is really is a remake. :] |
juniiflow said: He firts says that is a overrated show, yet he OWN'S both movie's. Now he is saying that the characters [main] ALL of them are BAD. #Really? I did't like some Fights in the rebuild. and Than again i like Some Fights Better than the original. I bought both of the movies, because I collect anime and I got both of them for less than $35 new, anyone would've jumped on that. Also yes, I do not like any character in that show or movie, it's just a personal preference. I didn't say they were bad it's just that I don't care for them. Both movies are also in HD and have a more complete story to me, rather than the original where I was just asking myself wtf was going on without ever getting anywhere to a clear answer. Yes I still say the show is overrated, hence, I own both Evangelion 1.11 and 2.22 not the series nor the End of Evangelion. What were you trying to point out in my comment? |
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juniiflow said: jal90 said: juniiflow said: jal90 said: Actually, planning to watch the Evangelion movies while avoiding the series is a quite absurd decision. I never suggest the Rebuild firts. but why not. not going to spoiled anything about the rebuild and the original series tought. If you really are intelligent you will know by now, that the remakes series really are a remake. - :] That's the point actually. If you already know that the Rebuild is a remake, it doesn't matter if you choose the series or the movies: it's the same stuff. And as the Rebuild is unfinished it will require some additional following effort. Nope,you did not get it, they are not the same AT ALL. just watch when 3.0 comes out. or go ahead and watch the trailer. but still he could watch the remake and it will be fine, yet i suggest him to watch the original series, especially the end of evangelion. after that go watch the remakes. and that is how you know that is really is a remake. :] I don't know if Rebuild is indeed a remake -didn't watch it- but I know fans speak of it as a remake, so that's enough. And I'll stop it here, because... |
lime93 said: juniiflow said: He firts says that is a overrated show, yet he OWN'S both movie's. Now he is saying that the characters [main] ALL of them are BAD. #Really? I did't like some Fights in the rebuild. and Than again i like Some Fights Better than the original. I bought both of the movies, because I collect anime and I got both of them for less than $35 new, anyone would've jumped on that. Also yes, I do not like any character in that show or movie, it's just a personal preference. I didn't say they were bad it's just that I don't care for them. Both movies are also in HD and have a more complete story to me, rather than the original where I was just asking myself wtf was going on without ever getting anywhere to a clear answer. Yes I still say the show is overrated, hence, I own both Evangelion 1.11 and 2.22 not the series nor the End of Evangelion. What were you trying to point out in my comment? Nothing, you made it clearly that you dont give 2 shit's about advised. i cant changed your mind. so i am not even gonna try lol. But for real nobody has watch The End of Evangelion, and than Watch the Remake's?... you know what forget it. Eventualy is gonna come out. maybe on 2015 or whenever evangelion 4.0 comes out. |
| OP is a faggot. |
Lets stop all the hate. They are both good series, you dont like one of them, than that is YOU. See i could have me a good girl, but still be addicted to them hood way's. |
| You know, it's surprising how people say that Eva is a big influence for all of today's anime. It's like how the LOTR faggots say LOTR influences all books of today. Although Harry Bosch is a murder mystery series, it's obviously inspired by a high-fantasy series! The same thing goes for Eva, it's called the "LOTR" of anime lol. |
MagnumMiraclesAug 18, 2012 4:27 PM
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| They share a similar atmosphere. |
| They're similar because there are countless ways to interpret the cluster-fuck plot and mind-fuck messages in them. People love them because their pathetic mind simply cannot comprehend the pile of shit it just witnessed. There's so much shit they don't understand that they gave up on trying and in the process find it phenomenal that such a thing is even possible. People hate them because they know what a pile of shit looks like when they see one. They don't even bother trying to process it because the end result will still be shit even if they could fully understand it. /thread |
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