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Mar 23, 2012 12:44 AM
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i believe i've stated this before a few time actually but the more i dig into it the more it makes sense. this will contain a lot of spoilers so if you haven't watched either don't read this

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Mar 23, 2012 1:12 AM
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well its all about the execution as you said, Guilty Crown suffered from a bad execution, for example for me the ending of Guilty Crown can be satisfying if it has 2 more episodes and in that 2 more episodes the action is a lot longer and more well designed
the reason i like Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann so much (as well as Black Rock Shooter TV now too) is because it has some exciting final action scenes until the final dialogues are shown up

and also on another forum a poster said Guilty Crown could have been better without being everything anime, and i agree it has a lot of fillers to me like the beach episode, Guilty Crown could have remove all those icing on the cake or spices and just focus on better telling and animating the main parts of the story

although i admit the first 6 episodes of Guilty Crown are darn awesome to me, its like im watching a very good action movie

P.S. never the less its not really a trainwreck like the haters are saying its still a good show and not really the worse show
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Guilty Crown reminds me more of Code Geass to be honest.

j0x said:
well its all about the execution as you said, Guilty Crown suffered from a bad execution, for example for me the ending of Guilty Crown can be satisfying if it has 2 more episodes and in that 2 more episodes the action is a lot longer and more well designed
the reason i like Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann so much (as well as Black Rock Shooter TV now too) is because it has some exciting final action scenes until the final dialogues are shown up

and also on another forum a poster said Guilty Crown could have been better without being everything anime, and i agree it has a lot of fillers to me like the beach episode, Guilty Crown could have remove all those icing on the cake or spices and just focus on better telling and animating the main parts of the story

although i admit the first 6 episodes of Guilty Crown are darn awesome to me, its like im watching a very good action movie

Couldn't agree more. Episode 15 was really a turning point in the anime for me. It went from being an alright anime to fucking awesome. Then towards the end it stumbled to the finish line, which is really disappointing for me because I really thought it had the potential to be in my top 10 favorite animes ever but I guess not.
Mar 23, 2012 2:10 AM
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Couldn't agree more. Episode 15 was really a turning point in the anime for me. It went from being an alright anime to fucking awesome. Then towards the end it stumbled to the finish line, which is really disappointing for me because I really thought it had the potential to be in my top 10 favorite animes ever but I guess not.


I have to agree with you both, 1-6 was just awesome in one way or another, and got me hooked like no other show I ever laid eyes upon.

And you're right, this show did, even with all of its flaws have the potential to be pretty friggin epic, but I.G. shot themselves in the face when they ended it the way they did; that is just a terrible way to end a series and there is no excuse for it other than the producers wanting the fans to feel terrible in the end.
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Mar 23, 2012 2:25 AM
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TROLOLOL, this anime nothing like TTGL. its like picking up a piece of gum wrapper and saying that its simliar to a page harry potter.
Mar 23, 2012 2:32 AM
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that is just a terrible way to end a series(specifically GC) and there is no excuse for it other than the producers wanting the fans to feel terrible in the end.


i do not think Guilty Crown will end soon though, a creator of the series said on twitter yesterday (the source is on facebook fan page of guilty crown) to pay attention to the last episode more, and that in an preseason interview (ANN has that interview) they say this show is 2 season and also back on that pay attention to this last episode, Gai said Da'ath will not allow Mana to die, if Mana get killed they will just revived her again and again, and it never shown too how Gai has been revived, so this might be what the twitter post is pointing out, a hint for another season

Jerichow said:
there is no excuse for it other than the producers wanting the fans to feel terrible in the end.


lol you reminded me of the 4chan comments

4chan 01 - why Shu got blind? because his eyes are only meant for Inori
4chan 02 - Shu is the best loser of them all, lost his parents/sister/best friend/lover and as well as his arms and now eyes and in next season he will lose more
Mar 23, 2012 2:43 AM
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j0x said:
Jerichow said:
that is just a terrible way to end a series(specifically GC) and there is no excuse for it other than the producers wanting the fans to feel terrible in the end.


i do not think Guilty Crown will end soon though, a creator of the series said on twitter yesterday (the source is on facebook fan page of guilty crown) that pay attention to the last episode more, and that in an preseason interview (ANN has that interview) they say this show is 2 season and also back on that pay attention to this last episode, Gai said Da'ath will not allow Mana to die, if Mana get killed they will just revived her again and again, and it never shown too how Gai has been revived, so this might be what the twitter post is pointing out, a hint for another season

Jerichow said:
there is no excuse for it other than the producers wanting the fans to feel terrible in the end.


lol you reminded me of the 4chan comments

4chan 01 - why Shu got blind? because his eyes are only meant for Inori
4chan 02 - Shu is the best loser of them all, lost his parents/sister/best friend/lover and as well as his arms and now eyes and in next season he will lose more


Dude how I so, so, soooo hope you're right. Just hearing news about another season makes me feel better - I don't care what people say I liked this show and it kills me how they ended it.

- Thinking back on it you make a good point, Daath really is an ever-existing problem, especially if they keep bringing Mana back, but that just gives a chance at Inori coming back, which I am in dire hopes for, or at least, a chance for Shu to pass on and be with her again.

Also - Lol at the 4chan comment - if you see the similarity then damn, the old 4channer in me isn't dead yet :P
Mar 23, 2012 3:26 AM
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GC tried to be many popular anime but in the end it failed hard .
Mar 23, 2012 12:33 PM
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i actually don't care for the second season seeing how this one turned out, but chances are that i will if supercell decide to do music for them again
+art was amazing
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Mar 23, 2012 1:55 PM

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never seen such gay lookin mechas ..
Mar 23, 2012 2:31 PM

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wait, for what anime?
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Mar 23, 2012 2:36 PM
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ans ALL TTGL is is a poor wannabe of a Nagai Go Mecha show so dont knock this anime for being a wannabe of the sinlge bigeest wannabe in history of the industry
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Mar 23, 2012 4:28 PM

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Olook, the anime hipster is back

GC tried to be too epic but failed epicly.
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Solkiskey said:
Olook, the anime hipster is back

GC tried to be too epic but failed epicly.


You know what... as much as you and I have debated this series, I have to agree with you right now. My rating of this show dropped the moment 22 ended.

I could deal with all the 'inconsistencies' people kept pointing out; I just enjoyed the show for what it was, and really came to like it, it just happened to be a show that really appealed to me. But then 22 came and went, and I'm left here thinking, "What the fuck just happened....?"

I have to say yeah, this show tried to be epic, especially in the end where they tried getting the most 'emotional' reaction with Shu surviving and being driven from the crystal like he was, but the writers just flat out failed. Unless there is a good reason given later, my rating for this show will remain a generous 4/10 due to that absolute abortion of an ending.
Mar 23, 2012 7:43 PM

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quick note that they are making a second season.....any thoughts about that
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Mar 23, 2012 8:04 PM
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quick note that they are making a second season.....any thoughts about that


Praying to god there will be one, whilst highly doubting we will get one at the same time.... still hoping though.
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Solkiskey said:
Olook, the anime hipster is back

GC tried to be too epic but failed epicly.


im no hipster im ust old enought to know that TTGL ripped of uinlike youse young uns

and i say i no hipster without knowing the meaning of the word but since i seam to get insults hurled at me person quite alot around here i take it as an insult so i say i not one
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong
Mar 23, 2012 9:06 PM

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Enjolras1830 said:
Solkiskey said:
Olook, the anime hipster is back

GC tried to be too epic but failed epicly.


im no hipster im ust old enought to know that TTGL ripped of uinlike youse young uns

and i say i no hipster without knowing the meaning of the word but since i seam to get insults hurled at me person quite alot around here i take it as an insult so i say i not one
i said wannabe, not rip off but ok?
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Mar 24, 2012 12:30 AM
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TROLOLOL, this anime nothing like TTGL. its like picking up a piece of gum wrapper and saying that its simliar to a page harry potter.


Except it is trying to be TTGL.
Mar 24, 2012 12:49 AM
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TTGL was supposed to be a homage to all those old shows, but the fan base doesn't know that. For starters, see Zambot.

Anyway, both shows ripped off Dune Messiah's ending.
Mar 24, 2012 11:12 AM

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Trisection said:
TTGL was supposed to be a homage to all those old shows, but the fan base doesn't know that. For starters, see Zambot.

Anyway, both shows ripped off Dune Messiah's ending.

for starters i never said rip off, like i've said before

the fact is there actually not a lot of original pieces out there, simply because with so many other stories, there's bound to be ones that's similar. it's like saying everyone's unique, fact remains that there will be people who look similar.

TTGL made it to the top because of execution, not completely originality.

as a matter of fact, industries don't often challenge "originality" because of the risk it takes. it's much easier to alter something a bit and not take the risk of failing utterly yet seem slightly original. there's few examples where originality has prevailed, but those days are almost long gone, everything can be compared to anything else now.
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Trisection said:
TTGL was supposed to be a homage to all those old shows, but the fan base doesn't know that. For starters, see Zambot.

Anyway, both shows ripped off Dune Messiah's ending.


i know that thats why i hate it cause it does not do it well
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong

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