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Sep 17, 1:00 AM
#1
Season 1 was only 12 episodes and covered the weakest part of the manga. This season had some mistakes, but overall I think MAPPA is doing a good job. However, it's been almost three years since Chainsaw Man got season 1. Do you think MAPPA should have done a season 2 covering the Reze Arc and the Assassination Arc to build more hype and attract more anime-only watchers, and then release a massive movie for the Gun Devil Arc? |
Sep 17, 1:29 AM
#2
hellowwloll said: Season 1 was only 12 episodes and covered the weakest part of the manga. This season had some mistakes, but overall I think MAPPA is doing a good job. However, it's been almost three years since Chainsaw Man got season 1. Do you think MAPPA should have done a season 2 covering the Reze Arc and the Assassination Arc to build more hype and attract more anime-only watchers, and then release a massive movie for the Gun Devil Arc? Nope, what they’re doing right is good, season 1 did what it needed to do, this movie should make that hype very apparent therefore season 2 will be fine in the format they are doing. |
Sep 17, 2:32 AM
#3
i think movie is great i believe cuz last season was a flop, considering tht they made a right choice this time cuz , they've put tht much effort to create tht beautiful artwork and didn't get any in return means it's kinda heartbreaking so . this is great choice from them for upcoming arcs..! |
Anime Rules the world |
Sep 17, 3:32 AM
#4
SoloNecromancer said: i think movie is great i believe cuz last season was a flop, considering tht they made a right choice this time cuz , they've put tht much effort to create tht beautiful artwork and didn't get any in return means it's kinda heartbreaking so . this is great choice from them for upcoming arcs..! Last season wasn't a flop. |
Sep 17, 3:33 AM
#5
This will have been a financial decision and made the most commercial sense. |
Sep 17, 4:23 AM
#6
Infernalization said: SoloNecromancer said: i think movie is great i believe cuz last season was a flop, considering tht they made a right choice this time cuz , they've put tht much effort to create tht beautiful artwork and didn't get any in return means it's kinda heartbreaking so . this is great choice from them for upcoming arcs..! Last season wasn't a flop. It did flop in Japan… |
Sep 17, 4:31 AM
#7
So the first season being the weakest part of manga? Well this is not true, because 2nd part exists. Now the problem of first season which people until now don’t get for some reason, is the tone. The comedy literally didn’t land and it became way too serious. The serious tone of CSM literally becomes a thing as time goes on with the series. That’s the beauty of part 1, it starts as crazy weird and funny at times then develops into more serious. Season 1 failed at that, and Japan even said that. I do believe however they are fixing the issues of season 1 alone by what they showed from trailer of the movie alone. They also thankfully fixed the colors (movie coloring from 1st season). The animation look stellar. Will it get a 2nd season? Well it depends highly on Japan here. Because surprise, MAPPA’s goal is to make CSM good for Japanese audiences not worldwide. I do believe it will get good numbers just not JJK 0 numbers if they are looking for that. But yes Season 2 will happen. |
Sep 17, 4:32 AM
#8
Confused_100 said: Infernalization said: SoloNecromancer said: i think movie is great i believe cuz last season was a flop, considering tht they made a right choice this time cuz , they've put tht much effort to create tht beautiful artwork and didn't get any in return means it's kinda heartbreaking so . this is great choice from them for upcoming arcs..! Last season wasn't a flop. It did flop in Japan… Which sadly is the only thing that matters to the producers. |
Sep 17, 4:33 AM
#9
The real question is: do you think Season 2 will have one or two cours? For those who read the manga, what would be better? |
Sep 17, 4:39 AM
#10
Dan_ALves said: The real question is: do you think Season 2 will have one or two cours? For those who read the manga, what would be better? 12 or 13 episodes are enough for it. So no cours needed |
Sep 17, 5:23 AM
#11
The Reze arc is the most fitting for a movie, it's relatively self contained, it's got a standard structure and it's very cinematic and spectacular. It's the best choice. The last chunk of part 1 really wouldn't work well because it's structured very unusually and relies heavily on what comes before. Also, three volumes are too much for a movie, and if we consider only the last two then it would be even worse. Like imagine a movie starting with chapters 80-81. |
Sep 17, 5:41 AM
#12
Confused_100 said: Infernalization said: SoloNecromancer said: i think movie is great i believe cuz last season was a flop, considering tht they made a right choice this time cuz , they've put tht much effort to create tht beautiful artwork and didn't get any in return means it's kinda heartbreaking so . this is great choice from them for upcoming arcs..! Last season wasn't a flop. It did flop in Japan… No it didn't. bad bluray sales ≠ flop. |
Sep 17, 7:39 AM
#13
Confused_100 said: So the first season being the weakest part of manga? Well this is not true, because 2nd part exists. Now the problem of first season which people until now don’t get for some reason, is the tone. The comedy literally didn’t land and it became way too serious. The serious tone of CSM literally becomes a thing as time goes on with the series. That’s the beauty of part 1, it starts as crazy weird and funny at times then develops into more serious. Season 1 failed at that, and Japan even said that. I do believe however they are fixing the issues of season 1 alone by what they showed from trailer of the movie alone. They also thankfully fixed the colors (movie coloring from 1st season). The animation look stellar. Will it get a 2nd season? Well it depends highly on Japan here. Because surprise, MAPPA’s goal is to make CSM good for Japanese audiences not worldwide. I do believe it will get good numbers just not JJK 0 numbers if they are looking for that. But yes Season 2 will happen. I just re-watched s1 of CSM. At what point did it fail to be comedic in the 2nd half? not much room for comedy considering what happens. And Japan is a person now?😆 Can you explain who Japan is? And no, unless Mappa is mentally disabled, they're going to be making the movie for everybody to enjoy. Yes, it needs to land in Japan and they're obviously aware of that but they're going to want people all around the world to enjoy it thus they're not going to be hyper focused on just making it good for Japan as that wouldn't make any sense. |
Sep 17, 7:50 AM
#14
GabiiNova said: Confused_100 said: So the first season being the weakest part of manga? Well this is not true, because 2nd part exists. Now the problem of first season which people until now don’t get for some reason, is the tone. The comedy literally didn’t land and it became way too serious. The serious tone of CSM literally becomes a thing as time goes on with the series. That’s the beauty of part 1, it starts as crazy weird and funny at times then develops into more serious. Season 1 failed at that, and Japan even said that. I do believe however they are fixing the issues of season 1 alone by what they showed from trailer of the movie alone. They also thankfully fixed the colors (movie coloring from 1st season). The animation look stellar. Will it get a 2nd season? Well it depends highly on Japan here. Because surprise, MAPPA’s goal is to make CSM good for Japanese audiences not worldwide. I do believe it will get good numbers just not JJK 0 numbers if they are looking for that. But yes Season 2 will happen. I just re-watched s1 of CSM. At what point did it fail to be comedic in the 2nd half? not much room for comedy considering what happens. And Japan is a person now?😆 Can you explain who Japan is? And no, unless Mappa is mentally disabled, they're going to be making the movie for everybody to enjoy. Yes, it needs to land in Japan and they're obviously aware of that but they're going to want people all around the world to enjoy it thus they're not going to be hyper focused on just making it good for Japan as that wouldn't make any sense. Apparently katana man arc was so serious in the manga… |
Sep 17, 7:51 AM
#15
Infernalization said: Confused_100 said: Infernalization said: SoloNecromancer said: i think movie is great i believe cuz last season was a flop, considering tht they made a right choice this time cuz , they've put tht much effort to create tht beautiful artwork and didn't get any in return means it's kinda heartbreaking so . this is great choice from them for upcoming arcs..! Last season wasn't a flop. It did flop in Japan… No it didn't. bad bluray sales ≠ flop. Even the view count in Japan was abysmal… What are we even talking about |
Sep 17, 8:10 AM
#16
Confused_100 said: Infernalization said: Confused_100 said: Infernalization said: SoloNecromancer said: i think movie is great i believe cuz last season was a flop, considering tht they made a right choice this time cuz , they've put tht much effort to create tht beautiful artwork and didn't get any in return means it's kinda heartbreaking so . this is great choice from them for upcoming arcs..! Last season wasn't a flop. It did flop in Japan… No it didn't. bad bluray sales ≠ flop. Even the view count in Japan was abysmal… What are we even talking about Since when is 5 million views abysmal? |
Sep 17, 8:29 AM
#17
Confused_100 said: GabiiNova said: Confused_100 said: So the first season being the weakest part of manga? Well this is not true, because 2nd part exists. Now the problem of first season which people until now don’t get for some reason, is the tone. The comedy literally didn’t land and it became way too serious. The serious tone of CSM literally becomes a thing as time goes on with the series. That’s the beauty of part 1, it starts as crazy weird and funny at times then develops into more serious. Season 1 failed at that, and Japan even said that. I do believe however they are fixing the issues of season 1 alone by what they showed from trailer of the movie alone. They also thankfully fixed the colors (movie coloring from 1st season). The animation look stellar. Will it get a 2nd season? Well it depends highly on Japan here. Because surprise, MAPPA’s goal is to make CSM good for Japanese audiences not worldwide. I do believe it will get good numbers just not JJK 0 numbers if they are looking for that. But yes Season 2 will happen. I just re-watched s1 of CSM. At what point did it fail to be comedic in the 2nd half? not much room for comedy considering what happens. And Japan is a person now?😆 Can you explain who Japan is? And no, unless Mappa is mentally disabled, they're going to be making the movie for everybody to enjoy. Yes, it needs to land in Japan and they're obviously aware of that but they're going to want people all around the world to enjoy it thus they're not going to be hyper focused on just making it good for Japan as that wouldn't make any sense. Apparently katana man arc was so serious in the manga… You said that the 2nd part of s1 failed at being as funny as it was in the manga. The Katana Man arc was very serious, it literally starts off with Makima and one of her subordinates getting executed and Katana Man attempting to execute Denji and crew. And there's comedy sprinkled in all the way up to the very end of s1. If the Katana Man arc was more serious in the manga, I can understand why they would lighten it up a bit in the anime as it is a very grim series, depressing even. Not saying I wouldn't have enjoyed it more if it was more serious but it was already very serious especially with Himeno passing away. |
Sep 17, 8:58 AM
#18
GabiiNova said: Confused_100 said: GabiiNova said: Confused_100 said: So the first season being the weakest part of manga? Well this is not true, because 2nd part exists. Now the problem of first season which people until now don’t get for some reason, is the tone. The comedy literally didn’t land and it became way too serious. The serious tone of CSM literally becomes a thing as time goes on with the series. That’s the beauty of part 1, it starts as crazy weird and funny at times then develops into more serious. Season 1 failed at that, and Japan even said that. I do believe however they are fixing the issues of season 1 alone by what they showed from trailer of the movie alone. They also thankfully fixed the colors (movie coloring from 1st season). The animation look stellar. Will it get a 2nd season? Well it depends highly on Japan here. Because surprise, MAPPA’s goal is to make CSM good for Japanese audiences not worldwide. I do believe it will get good numbers just not JJK 0 numbers if they are looking for that. But yes Season 2 will happen. I just re-watched s1 of CSM. At what point did it fail to be comedic in the 2nd half? not much room for comedy considering what happens. And Japan is a person now?😆 Can you explain who Japan is? And no, unless Mappa is mentally disabled, they're going to be making the movie for everybody to enjoy. Yes, it needs to land in Japan and they're obviously aware of that but they're going to want people all around the world to enjoy it thus they're not going to be hyper focused on just making it good for Japan as that wouldn't make any sense. Apparently katana man arc was so serious in the manga… You said that the 2nd part of s1 failed at being as funny as it was in the manga. The Katana Man arc was very serious, it literally starts off with Makima and one of her subordinates getting executed and Katana Man attempting to execute Denji and crew. And there's comedy sprinkled in all the way up to the very end of s1. If the Katana Man arc was more serious in the manga, I can understand why they would lighten it up a bit in the anime as it is a very grim series, depressing even. Not saying I wouldn't have enjoyed it more if it was more serious but it was already very serious especially with Himeno passing away. No I meant CSM part 2, not season 2 or part 1. Bro search before responding without even understanding what I was talking about lol. You proved that you don’t even know what happened in the manga. |
Confused_100Sep 17, 9:22 AM
Sep 17, 9:05 AM
#19
Confused_100 said: Infernalization said: SoloNecromancer said: i think movie is great i believe cuz last season was a flop, considering tht they made a right choice this time cuz , they've put tht much effort to create tht beautiful artwork and didn't get any in return means it's kinda heartbreaking so . this is great choice from them for upcoming arcs..! Last season wasn't a flop. It did flop in Japan… I did not lmao, you only talk about DVDs, while TV audiences were huge. |
Sep 17, 9:11 AM
#20
Infernalization said: Confused_100 said: Infernalization said: Confused_100 said: Infernalization said: SoloNecromancer said: i think movie is great i believe cuz last season was a flop, considering tht they made a right choice this time cuz , they've put tht much effort to create tht beautiful artwork and didn't get any in return means it's kinda heartbreaking so . this is great choice from them for upcoming arcs..! Last season wasn't a flop. It did flop in Japan… No it didn't. bad bluray sales ≠ flop. Even the view count in Japan was abysmal… What are we even talking about Since when is 5 million views abysmal? The more I see posts from this guy, the more I understand one thing: He writes a lot about Chainsaw Man posts, always negative, unlike his posts about Kimetsu. He may be a fan of Kimetsu, he has the right, I don't care, but he just criticizes Chainsaw Man while trying not to come across as a hater. |
Sep 17, 9:12 AM
#21
Infernalization said: Confused_100 said: Infernalization said: Confused_100 said: Infernalization said: SoloNecromancer said: i think movie is great i believe cuz last season was a flop, considering tht they made a right choice this time cuz , they've put tht much effort to create tht beautiful artwork and didn't get any in return means it's kinda heartbreaking so . this is great choice from them for upcoming arcs..! Last season wasn't a flop. It did flop in Japan… No it didn't. bad bluray sales ≠ flop. Even the view count in Japan was abysmal… What are we even talking about Since when is 5 million views abysmal? It was losing to a rerun to spy x family in view count… It couldn’t get an average of 5 million but actually was dropping at some weeks. But sure. The 5 million you are using uses household DVR estimates. If we included dvr with spy x family then it got 10 million. Btw physical sales does attribute to flopping in Japan. It lost to boochi no rock. It lost to bleach tybw in that as well. And bleach had less views, but was more successful by even Japan standards. Yes physical sales affect the success rate for an anime. |
Confused_100Sep 17, 9:48 AM
Sep 17, 9:14 AM
#22
JaysonNnN said: Infernalization said: Confused_100 said: Infernalization said: Confused_100 said: Infernalization said: SoloNecromancer said: i think movie is great i believe cuz last season was a flop, considering tht they made a right choice this time cuz , they've put tht much effort to create tht beautiful artwork and didn't get any in return means it's kinda heartbreaking so . this is great choice from them for upcoming arcs..! Last season wasn't a flop. It did flop in Japan… No it didn't. bad bluray sales ≠ flop. Even the view count in Japan was abysmal… What are we even talking about Since when is 5 million views abysmal? The more I see posts from this guy, the more I understand one thing: He writes a lot about Chainsaw Man posts, always negative, unlike his posts about Kimetsu. He may be a fan of Kimetsu, he has the right, I don't care, but he just criticizes Chainsaw Man while trying not to come across as a hater. Bruh… You looked at my posts for the last month when both movies were about to release. While also looking at my CSM part 2 chapters review… You also ignored the One piece posts there. So you want to be honest there, or do you fall into the delusional category? Note: now let’s do it on your side. Your recent posts are only for CSM, while defending also CSM part 2. So what do we call that? A stan who doesn’t watch other animes or read other mangas. You really tried that at me while doing so much worse, defending gooning behaviours. You really are delusional |
Confused_100Sep 17, 9:40 AM
Sep 17, 9:55 AM
#23
No, but it seems like this is the new paradigm in the anime industry, a movie will always be more profitable than a regular series broadcast, it is a shame, it's really annoying to change from one format to another. |
Sep 17, 10:32 AM
#24
Reply to Confused_100
JaysonNnN said:
The more I see posts from this guy, the more I understand one thing: He writes a lot about Chainsaw Man posts, always negative, unlike his posts about Kimetsu. He may be a fan of Kimetsu, he has the right, I don't care, but he just criticizes Chainsaw Man while trying not to come across as a hater.
Infernalization said:
Since when is 5 million views abysmal?
Confused_100 said:
Even the view count in Japan was abysmal… What are we even talking about
Infernalization said:
No it didn't. bad bluray sales ≠ flop.
Confused_100 said:
It did flop in Japan…
Infernalization said:
Last season wasn't a flop.
SoloNecromancer said:
i think movie is great i believe
cuz last season was a flop, considering tht they made a right choice this time cuz , they've put tht much effort to create tht beautiful artwork and didn't get any in return means it's kinda heartbreaking so . this is great choice from them for upcoming arcs..!
i think movie is great i believe
cuz last season was a flop, considering tht they made a right choice this time cuz , they've put tht much effort to create tht beautiful artwork and didn't get any in return means it's kinda heartbreaking so . this is great choice from them for upcoming arcs..!
Last season wasn't a flop.
It did flop in Japan…
No it didn't. bad bluray sales ≠ flop.
Even the view count in Japan was abysmal… What are we even talking about
Since when is 5 million views abysmal?
The more I see posts from this guy, the more I understand one thing: He writes a lot about Chainsaw Man posts, always negative, unlike his posts about Kimetsu. He may be a fan of Kimetsu, he has the right, I don't care, but he just criticizes Chainsaw Man while trying not to come across as a hater.
Bruh… You looked at my posts for the last month when both movies were about to release. While also looking at my CSM part 2 chapters review… You also ignored the One piece posts there. So you want to be honest there, or do you fall into the delusional category?
Note: now let’s do it on your side. Your recent posts are only for CSM, while defending also CSM part 2. So what do we call that? A stan who doesn’t watch other animes or read other mangas. You really tried that at me while doing so much worse, defending gooning behaviours. You really are delusional
@Confused_100 Thing is, the dude isn’t wrong — you really are acting like an anti. Every single CSM post I see, you’re there dropping some negative comment. Not to mention you once said Part 2 was only for ‘gooners.’ So why even bother reading further if that’s what you truly think? Just fk off, bro. Your wording is nothing but long-winded rambling with zero real point. |
Im a huge fan of Tatsuki Fujimoto and I have read all of his mangas, except this Fire Punch one. I dont know why, cause my fr recommended me not to read this manga cause its too pervert and sexual violence???. I really need some review from yall about this one. Cause it wouldn`t be fair to ignore one of Tatsuki's works. |
Sep 17, 10:40 AM
#25
Denjima said: @Confused_100 Thing is, the dude isn’t wrong — you really are acting like an anti. Every single CSM post I see, you’re there dropping some negative comment. Not to mention you once said Part 2 was only for ‘gooners.’ So why even bother reading further if that’s what you truly think? Just fk off, bro. Your wording is nothing but long-winded rambling with zero real point. Thing is, I didn’t even say anything negative here about the movie but said a lot of positives and in another thread I saw you in, I defended the movie again… So you just created your own assumption based on me criticising Season 1 and part 2 of CSM. Why? Because it will make you feel better. Btw part 2 are for gooners after Asa disappeared and Denji became a retread of what he was again, ironically becoming a bot in the process. And I did praise a moment in part 2, when Fujimoto made nukes come back or even when Denji started to feel remorse for civilians. I still read it because I love Asa, and interested by the story itself not Denji anymore. Denji became the worst thing about the manga and the community. We don’t criticise his actions anymore but excuse it. I would defend Denji in part 1, but part 2 Denji, only gooners would defend that. Hence why I say it. Now go ahead and try with me again but with logic and genuine talk other than defending someone delusional who cherry picked what he wanted to create the narrative he wanted. So objectively speaking, he is wrong and you just agreed with him because it would suit your tastes. |
Confused_100Sep 17, 10:44 AM
Sep 17, 10:50 AM
#26
Reply to Confused_100
Denjima said:
@Confused_100 Thing is, the dude isn’t wrong — you really are acting like an anti. Every single CSM post I see, you’re there dropping some negative comment. Not to mention you once said Part 2 was only for ‘gooners.’ So why even bother reading further if that’s what you truly think? Just fk off, bro. Your wording is nothing but long-winded rambling with zero real point.
@Confused_100 Thing is, the dude isn’t wrong — you really are acting like an anti. Every single CSM post I see, you’re there dropping some negative comment. Not to mention you once said Part 2 was only for ‘gooners.’ So why even bother reading further if that’s what you truly think? Just fk off, bro. Your wording is nothing but long-winded rambling with zero real point.
Thing is, I didn’t even say anything negative here about the movie but said a lot of positives and in another thread I saw you in, I defended the movie again… So you just created your own assumption based on me criticising Season 1 and part 2 of CSM. Why? Because it will make you feel better.
Btw part 2 are for gooners after Asa disappeared and Denji became a retread of what he was again, ironically becoming a bot in the process. And I did praise a moment in part 2, when Fujimoto made nukes come back or even when Denji started to feel remorse for civilians. I still read it because I love Asa, and interested by the story itself not Denji anymore. Denji became the worst thing about the manga and the community. We don’t criticise his actions anymore but excuse it. I would defend Denji in part 1, but part 2 Denji, only gooners would defend that. Hence why I say it.
Now go ahead and try with me again but with logic and genuine talk other than defending someone delusional who cherry picked what he wanted to create the narrative he wanted. So objectively speaking, he is wrong and you just agreed with him because it would suit your tastes.
@Confused_100 You call Part 2 ‘for gooners’ — like seriously? That’s not analysis, that’s just lazy name-calling. If you honestly think labeling an entire fanbase like that counts as criticism, then no wonder nobody takes your takes seriously. And praising ‘one nuke moment’ doesn’t magically balance out all the constant whining you’ve dropped everywhere else — that’s cherry-picking at its finest. Also, saying Denji became ‘the worst thing about the manga and community’ is just laughable. Denji is literally the central lens of the story. If you can’t stand him anymore, maybe that’s your problem, not the manga’s. Fans don’t ‘excuse’ his actions blindly — plenty of people discuss and debate them in detail. Just because you can’t see past your own hate doesn’t mean everyone else is brainless. And the way you wrap it up with ‘objective’ talk? Come on. Nothing you said is objective. It’s just your long-winded rambling dressed up as if you’re above everyone else. You’re not. You’re just another salty anti trying to act logical while throwing around insults. So yeah, if you genuinely hate where the story went and think Part 2 is only for some made-up ‘gooner’ crowd, then why the hell are you still here? Nobody’s forcing you to read, nobody’s forcing you to comment. Either bring actual points to the table or just fk off, because all you’ve got right now is empty negativity and endless paragraphs that go nowhere. |
Im a huge fan of Tatsuki Fujimoto and I have read all of his mangas, except this Fire Punch one. I dont know why, cause my fr recommended me not to read this manga cause its too pervert and sexual violence???. I really need some review from yall about this one. Cause it wouldn`t be fair to ignore one of Tatsuki's works. |
Sep 17, 10:53 AM
#27
Confused_100 said: GabiiNova said: Confused_100 said: GabiiNova said: Confused_100 said: So the first season being the weakest part of manga? Well this is not true, because 2nd part exists. Now the problem of first season which people until now don’t get for some reason, is the tone. The comedy literally didn’t land and it became way too serious. The serious tone of CSM literally becomes a thing as time goes on with the series. That’s the beauty of part 1, it starts as crazy weird and funny at times then develops into more serious. Season 1 failed at that, and Japan even said that. I do believe however they are fixing the issues of season 1 alone by what they showed from trailer of the movie alone. They also thankfully fixed the colors (movie coloring from 1st season). The animation look stellar. Will it get a 2nd season? Well it depends highly on Japan here. Because surprise, MAPPA’s goal is to make CSM good for Japanese audiences not worldwide. I do believe it will get good numbers just not JJK 0 numbers if they are looking for that. But yes Season 2 will happen. I just re-watched s1 of CSM. At what point did it fail to be comedic in the 2nd half? not much room for comedy considering what happens. And Japan is a person now?😆 Can you explain who Japan is? And no, unless Mappa is mentally disabled, they're going to be making the movie for everybody to enjoy. Yes, it needs to land in Japan and they're obviously aware of that but they're going to want people all around the world to enjoy it thus they're not going to be hyper focused on just making it good for Japan as that wouldn't make any sense. Apparently katana man arc was so serious in the manga… You said that the 2nd part of s1 failed at being as funny as it was in the manga. The Katana Man arc was very serious, it literally starts off with Makima and one of her subordinates getting executed and Katana Man attempting to execute Denji and crew. And there's comedy sprinkled in all the way up to the very end of s1. If the Katana Man arc was more serious in the manga, I can understand why they would lighten it up a bit in the anime as it is a very grim series, depressing even. Not saying I wouldn't have enjoyed it more if it was more serious but it was already very serious especially with Himeno passing away. No I meant CSM part 2, not season 2 or part 1. Bro search before responding without even understanding what I was talking about lol. You proved that you don’t even know what happened in the manga. You said Part 1 was funny then got serious and that s1 failed at that. And I never claimed to have read the manga. I'm anime only with CSM. |
Sep 17, 10:55 AM
#28
GabiiNova said: Confused_100 said: GabiiNova said: Confused_100 said: GabiiNova said: Confused_100 said: So the first season being the weakest part of manga? Well this is not true, because 2nd part exists. Now the problem of first season which people until now don’t get for some reason, is the tone. The comedy literally didn’t land and it became way too serious. The serious tone of CSM literally becomes a thing as time goes on with the series. That’s the beauty of part 1, it starts as crazy weird and funny at times then develops into more serious. Season 1 failed at that, and Japan even said that. I do believe however they are fixing the issues of season 1 alone by what they showed from trailer of the movie alone. They also thankfully fixed the colors (movie coloring from 1st season). The animation look stellar. Will it get a 2nd season? Well it depends highly on Japan here. Because surprise, MAPPA’s goal is to make CSM good for Japanese audiences not worldwide. I do believe it will get good numbers just not JJK 0 numbers if they are looking for that. But yes Season 2 will happen. I just re-watched s1 of CSM. At what point did it fail to be comedic in the 2nd half? not much room for comedy considering what happens. And Japan is a person now?😆 Can you explain who Japan is? And no, unless Mappa is mentally disabled, they're going to be making the movie for everybody to enjoy. Yes, it needs to land in Japan and they're obviously aware of that but they're going to want people all around the world to enjoy it thus they're not going to be hyper focused on just making it good for Japan as that wouldn't make any sense. Apparently katana man arc was so serious in the manga… You said that the 2nd part of s1 failed at being as funny as it was in the manga. The Katana Man arc was very serious, it literally starts off with Makima and one of her subordinates getting executed and Katana Man attempting to execute Denji and crew. And there's comedy sprinkled in all the way up to the very end of s1. If the Katana Man arc was more serious in the manga, I can understand why they would lighten it up a bit in the anime as it is a very grim series, depressing even. Not saying I wouldn't have enjoyed it more if it was more serious but it was already very serious especially with Himeno passing away. No I meant CSM part 2, not season 2 or part 1. Bro search before responding without even understanding what I was talking about lol. You proved that you don’t even know what happened in the manga. You said Part 1 was funny then got serious and that s1 failed at that. And I never claimed to have read the manga. I'm anime only with CSM. Okay then you misunderstood what I said. Plus you claimed that katana arc was as serious if not serious as the manga. |
Sep 17, 10:57 AM
#29
Reply to Confused_100
Denjima said:
@Confused_100 Thing is, the dude isn’t wrong — you really are acting like an anti. Every single CSM post I see, you’re there dropping some negative comment. Not to mention you once said Part 2 was only for ‘gooners.’ So why even bother reading further if that’s what you truly think? Just fk off, bro. Your wording is nothing but long-winded rambling with zero real point.
@Confused_100 Thing is, the dude isn’t wrong — you really are acting like an anti. Every single CSM post I see, you’re there dropping some negative comment. Not to mention you once said Part 2 was only for ‘gooners.’ So why even bother reading further if that’s what you truly think? Just fk off, bro. Your wording is nothing but long-winded rambling with zero real point.
Thing is, I didn’t even say anything negative here about the movie but said a lot of positives and in another thread I saw you in, I defended the movie again… So you just created your own assumption based on me criticising Season 1 and part 2 of CSM. Why? Because it will make you feel better.
Btw part 2 are for gooners after Asa disappeared and Denji became a retread of what he was again, ironically becoming a bot in the process. And I did praise a moment in part 2, when Fujimoto made nukes come back or even when Denji started to feel remorse for civilians. I still read it because I love Asa, and interested by the story itself not Denji anymore. Denji became the worst thing about the manga and the community. We don’t criticise his actions anymore but excuse it. I would defend Denji in part 1, but part 2 Denji, only gooners would defend that. Hence why I say it.
Now go ahead and try with me again but with logic and genuine talk other than defending someone delusional who cherry picked what he wanted to create the narrative he wanted. So objectively speaking, he is wrong and you just agreed with him because it would suit your tastes.
@Confused_100 And that excuse of ‘I actually defended the movie once’? Please. Tossing in a token positive doesn’t undo the pattern of constant whining. That’s like saying ‘I insulted you all week but hey, one time I said something nice, so I’m not negative!’ It’s pathetic. So stop hiding behind technicalities like ‘I never said I hate the movie’ or ‘I only hated Season 1, not Part 1.’ Nobody cares about that hair-splitting. The bigger picture is clear: you show up to every CSM post just to drag it down. That’s not critique, that’s being an anti in denial. If you hate it this much, just log off, bro. Let people enjoy what they enjoy instead of spamming long-winded rants that go nowhere." |
Im a huge fan of Tatsuki Fujimoto and I have read all of his mangas, except this Fire Punch one. I dont know why, cause my fr recommended me not to read this manga cause its too pervert and sexual violence???. I really need some review from yall about this one. Cause it wouldn`t be fair to ignore one of Tatsuki's works. |
Sep 17, 10:59 AM
#30
I'm anime only with CSM so you'll have to re-read my response now knowing I'm anime only. and what am I not understanding about your initial comment? |
GabiiNovaSep 17, 11:02 AM
Sep 17, 11:18 AM
#31
chainsaw man is cinema it needs theatricals for every upcoming arc imo |
Sep 17, 11:27 AM
#32
Denjima said: @Confused_100 You call Part 2 ‘for gooners’ — like seriously? That’s not analysis, that’s just lazy name-calling. If you honestly think labeling an entire fanbase like that counts as criticism, then no wonder nobody takes your takes seriously. And praising ‘one nuke moment’ doesn’t magically balance out all the constant whining you’ve dropped everywhere else — that’s cherry-picking at its finest. Also, saying Denji became ‘the worst thing about the manga and community’ is just laughable. Denji is literally the central lens of the story. If you can’t stand him anymore, maybe that’s your problem, not the manga’s. Fans don’t ‘excuse’ his actions blindly — plenty of people discuss and debate them in detail. Just because you can’t see past your own hate doesn’t mean everyone else is brainless. And the way you wrap it up with ‘objective’ talk? Come on. Nothing you said is objective. It’s just your long-winded rambling dressed up as if you’re above everyone else. You’re not. You’re just another salty anti trying to act logical while throwing around insults. So yeah, if you genuinely hate where the story went and think Part 2 is only for some made-up ‘gooner’ crowd, then why the hell are you still here? Nobody’s forcing you to read, nobody’s forcing you to comment. Either bring actual points to the table or just fk off, because all you’ve got right now is empty negativity and endless paragraphs that go nowhere. And the misrepresentation of what I said while ignoring the Asa talking point, while going on a tangent about part 2 and Denji being focus lens. Even though part 2 didn’t even focus on Denji until after the aquarium date… Also again misrepresenting when I labelled it a gonner. Not one person debates about Denji being bad in part 2 without getting bombarded by literal insults and name calling. Yes the thing you accused me of. Yes I talked objectively speaking about you guys trying to label me an anti when all I see me being more a fan of CSM than you guys who couldn’t handle one bad thing said about it. You guys are why the community went to hell after the anime got announced by this action. Why no1 takes you seriously in any other community. And ironically you project your insecurities and feelings on others while cherry picking and creating a fake narrative to satisfy your actions. And if I was salty, I wouldn’t be talking with more logic and fact, I would be throwing random accusations while choosing specific actions that suits my narrative, weird like you guys. Now I will say it again, will you talk genuinely or just be delusional like the other guy? |
Confused_100Sep 17, 11:39 AM
Sep 17, 11:28 AM
#33
Denjima said: @Confused_100 And that excuse of ‘I actually defended the movie once’? Please. Tossing in a token positive doesn’t undo the pattern of constant whining. That’s like saying ‘I insulted you all week but hey, one time I said something nice, so I’m not negative!’ It’s pathetic. So stop hiding behind technicalities like ‘I never said I hate the movie’ or ‘I only hated Season 1, not Part 1.’ Nobody cares about that hair-splitting. The bigger picture is clear: you show up to every CSM post just to drag it down. That’s not critique, that’s being an anti in denial. If you hate it this much, just log off, bro. Let people enjoy what they enjoy instead of spamming long-winded rants that go nowhere." I didn’t say once… I said multiple times lol. You really be creating a fake narrative, while manipulating and misrepresenting what I say a lot huh. Bro take a breather because wow you need it. Learn what a fan means other than showing the bad side. You lose debates like this. You did it with the other thread for “glazing”… You read it the way you wanted then attacked, just reset that mindset and understand. |
Confused_100Sep 17, 11:41 AM
Sep 17, 11:36 AM
#34
GabiiNova said: I'm anime only with CSM so you'll have to re-read my response now knowing I'm anime only. and what am I not understanding about your initial comment? I said S1 was way more serious than it should have been compared to manga. It made arcs in S1 not as enjoyable. I said they seem to be fixing that by looking at the trailer. I also said that S1 isn’t the bad part of CSM, but Part 2, the one that starts after S2, the season that didn’t release yet. You said that it should have been serious because of certain events as well as assumed that if it was more serious in manga. While also assuming that I was dissing on S2… We good? |
Sep 17, 12:18 PM
#35
You didn't specify, all you said was s1 failed at that. referring to part 1 being funny in the beginning then getting serious. If you're saying s1 failed to be as funny (as the beginning of part 1) as the manga I can see that as, yes, there was humour but it was very grim for the most part. Never said anything about s2. S2 of the anime will be the end of part 1 of the manga, I get that and since you weren't specifying there was some confusion there. We good. |
Sep 17, 2:20 PM
#36
Reply to Confused_100
Dan_ALves said:
The real question is: do you think Season 2 will have one or two cours? For those who read the manga, what would be better?
The real question is: do you think Season 2 will have one or two cours? For those who read the manga, what would be better?
12 or 13 episodes are enough for it. So no cours needed
@Confused_100 And that would allow a could stopping point? Or would it end on a cliffhanger? |
Sep 17, 2:52 PM
#37
Dan_ALves said: @Confused_100 And that would allow a could stopping point? Or would it end on a cliffhanger? No cliffhanger, don’t worry. It just ends part 1 of the manga. |
Sep 17, 3:26 PM
#38
Confused_100 said: Infernalization said: Confused_100 said: Infernalization said: Confused_100 said: Infernalization said: SoloNecromancer said: i think movie is great i believe cuz last season was a flop, considering tht they made a right choice this time cuz , they've put tht much effort to create tht beautiful artwork and didn't get any in return means it's kinda heartbreaking so . this is great choice from them for upcoming arcs..! Last season wasn't a flop. It did flop in Japan… No it didn't. bad bluray sales ≠ flop. Even the view count in Japan was abysmal… What are we even talking about Since when is 5 million views abysmal? It was losing to a rerun to spy x family in view count… It couldn’t get an average of 5 million but actually was dropping at some weeks. But sure. The 5 million you are using uses household DVR estimates. If we included dvr with spy x family then it got 10 million. Btw physical sales does attribute to flopping in Japan. It lost to boochi no rock. It lost to bleach tybw in that as well. And bleach had less views, but was more successful by even Japan standards. Yes physical sales affect the success rate for an anime. 1. Moving the goalpost again? 2. Chainsaw Man, a big show, losing to other big shows in viewership does not mean it is a flop. |
Sep 17, 3:28 PM
#39
Infernalization said: Confused_100 said: Infernalization said: Confused_100 said: Infernalization said: Confused_100 said: Infernalization said: SoloNecromancer said: i think movie is great i believe cuz last season was a flop, considering tht they made a right choice this time cuz , they've put tht much effort to create tht beautiful artwork and didn't get any in return means it's kinda heartbreaking so . this is great choice from them for upcoming arcs..! Last season wasn't a flop. It did flop in Japan… No it didn't. bad bluray sales ≠ flop. Even the view count in Japan was abysmal… What are we even talking about Since when is 5 million views abysmal? It was losing to a rerun to spy x family in view count… It couldn’t get an average of 5 million but actually was dropping at some weeks. But sure. The 5 million you are using uses household DVR estimates. If we included dvr with spy x family then it got 10 million. Btw physical sales does attribute to flopping in Japan. It lost to boochi no rock. It lost to bleach tybw in that as well. And bleach had less views, but was more successful by even Japan standards. Yes physical sales affect the success rate for an anime. 1. Moving the goalpost again? 2. Chainsaw Man, a big show, losing to other big shows in viewership does not mean it is a flop. 1. I didn’t even move goalposts anytime lol 2. I was showing examples of why it flopped in Japan… Like what do you want? Lol Like if you don’t want examples,then okay. Then tell me an example of an anime that did flop in Japan to understand your perspective. |
Confused_100Sep 17, 3:35 PM
Sep 17, 3:35 PM
#40
Infernalization said: SoloNecromancer said: i think movie is great i believe cuz last season was a flop, considering tht they made a right choice this time cuz , they've put tht much effort to create tht beautiful artwork and didn't get any in return means it's kinda heartbreaking so . this is great choice from them for upcoming arcs..! Last season wasn't a flop. Yes it did. It did very poorly in JP which, to production committees, is the only customer base that matters |
Sep 17, 5:29 PM
#41
They should've went with 24 episodes season 1 like they did JJk. Oh and no movies. Ever |
Sep 17, 6:10 PM
#42
seeing as how the product is about to turn out, this was the right choice. |
Sep 17, 6:34 PM
#43
Reply to Confused_100
Denjima said:
@Confused_100
You call Part 2 ‘for gooners’ — like seriously? That’s not analysis, that’s just lazy name-calling. If you honestly think labeling an entire fanbase like that counts as criticism, then no wonder nobody takes your takes seriously. And praising ‘one nuke moment’ doesn’t magically balance out all the constant whining you’ve dropped everywhere else — that’s cherry-picking at its finest.
Also, saying Denji became ‘the worst thing about the manga and community’ is just laughable. Denji is literally the central lens of the story. If you can’t stand him anymore, maybe that’s your problem, not the manga’s. Fans don’t ‘excuse’ his actions blindly — plenty of people discuss and debate them in detail. Just because you can’t see past your own hate doesn’t mean everyone else is brainless.
And the way you wrap it up with ‘objective’ talk? Come on. Nothing you said is objective. It’s just your long-winded rambling dressed up as if you’re above everyone else. You’re not. You’re just another salty anti trying to act logical while throwing around insults.
So yeah, if you genuinely hate where the story went and think Part 2 is only for some made-up ‘gooner’ crowd, then why the hell are you still here? Nobody’s forcing you to read, nobody’s forcing you to comment. Either bring actual points to the table or just fk off, because all you’ve got right now is empty negativity and endless paragraphs that go nowhere.
@Confused_100
You call Part 2 ‘for gooners’ — like seriously? That’s not analysis, that’s just lazy name-calling. If you honestly think labeling an entire fanbase like that counts as criticism, then no wonder nobody takes your takes seriously. And praising ‘one nuke moment’ doesn’t magically balance out all the constant whining you’ve dropped everywhere else — that’s cherry-picking at its finest.
Also, saying Denji became ‘the worst thing about the manga and community’ is just laughable. Denji is literally the central lens of the story. If you can’t stand him anymore, maybe that’s your problem, not the manga’s. Fans don’t ‘excuse’ his actions blindly — plenty of people discuss and debate them in detail. Just because you can’t see past your own hate doesn’t mean everyone else is brainless.
And the way you wrap it up with ‘objective’ talk? Come on. Nothing you said is objective. It’s just your long-winded rambling dressed up as if you’re above everyone else. You’re not. You’re just another salty anti trying to act logical while throwing around insults.
So yeah, if you genuinely hate where the story went and think Part 2 is only for some made-up ‘gooner’ crowd, then why the hell are you still here? Nobody’s forcing you to read, nobody’s forcing you to comment. Either bring actual points to the table or just fk off, because all you’ve got right now is empty negativity and endless paragraphs that go nowhere.
And the misrepresentation of what I said while ignoring the Asa talking point, while going on a tangent about part 2 and Denji being focus lens. Even though part 2 didn’t even focus on Denji until after the aquarium date… Also again misrepresenting when I labelled it a gonner.
Not one person debates about Denji being bad in part 2 without getting bombarded by literal insults and name calling. Yes the thing you accused me of.
Yes I talked objectively speaking about you guys trying to label me an anti when all I see me being more a fan of CSM than you guys who couldn’t handle one bad thing said about it. You guys are why the community went to hell after the anime got announced by this action. Why no1 takes you seriously in any other community. And ironically you project your insecurities and feelings on others while cherry picking and creating a fake narrative to satisfy your actions. And if I was salty, I wouldn’t be talking with more logic and fact, I would be throwing random accusations while choosing specific actions that suits my narrative, weird like you guys.
Now I will say it again, will you talk genuinely or just be delusional like the other guy?
@Confused_100 like i said "long-winded rants that go nowhere". get a life bro. |
Im a huge fan of Tatsuki Fujimoto and I have read all of his mangas, except this Fire Punch one. I dont know why, cause my fr recommended me not to read this manga cause its too pervert and sexual violence???. I really need some review from yall about this one. Cause it wouldn`t be fair to ignore one of Tatsuki's works. |
Sep 17, 6:40 PM
#44
You are the one who started it with me by agreeing with a delusional person lol. Like what do you want me to do when I was attacked by false claims about me? Just sit there and take it? I don’t hold grudges on the internet because I don’t know you at the end of the day. Have a nice day, and hope you enjoy the movie and keep enjoying whatever you like. |
Sep 17, 8:12 PM
#45
Reply to Confused_100
You are the one who started it with me by agreeing with a delusional person lol. Like what do you want me to do when I was attacked by false claims about me? Just sit there and take it?
I don’t hold grudges on the internet because I don’t know you at the end of the day. Have a nice day, and hope you enjoy the movie and keep enjoying whatever you like.
@Confused_100 yeah you too, enfoy ur miserable life. PEACE |
Im a huge fan of Tatsuki Fujimoto and I have read all of his mangas, except this Fire Punch one. I dont know why, cause my fr recommended me not to read this manga cause its too pervert and sexual violence???. I really need some review from yall about this one. Cause it wouldn`t be fair to ignore one of Tatsuki's works. |
Sep 17, 8:48 PM
#46
I think the Reze arc as a movie is fine, but that’s because I’ve read the manga, so honestly, I can wait. |
Sep 17, 9:12 PM
#47
Infernalization said: SoloNecromancer said: i think movie is great i believe cuz last season was a flop, considering tht they made a right choice this time cuz , they've put tht much effort to create tht beautiful artwork and didn't get any in return means it's kinda heartbreaking so . this is great choice from them for upcoming arcs..! Last season wasn't a flop. yah, they used a lot of budget making different endings for every episode. that was a bad decision. |
Sep 17, 9:30 PM
#48
Infernalization said: Confused_100 said: Infernalization said: Confused_100 said: Infernalization said: Confused_100 said: Infernalization said: SoloNecromancer said: i think movie is great i believe cuz last season was a flop, considering tht they made a right choice this time cuz , they've put tht much effort to create tht beautiful artwork and didn't get any in return means it's kinda heartbreaking so . this is great choice from them for upcoming arcs..! Last season wasn't a flop. It did flop in Japan… No it didn't. bad bluray sales ≠ flop. Even the view count in Japan was abysmal… What are we even talking about Since when is 5 million views abysmal? It was losing to a rerun to spy x family in view count… It couldn’t get an average of 5 million but actually was dropping at some weeks. But sure. The 5 million you are using uses household DVR estimates. If we included dvr with spy x family then it got 10 million. Btw physical sales does attribute to flopping in Japan. It lost to boochi no rock. It lost to bleach tybw in that as well. And bleach had less views, but was more successful by even Japan standards. Yes physical sales affect the success rate for an anime. 1. Moving the goalpost again? 2. Chainsaw Man, a big show, losing to other big shows in viewership does not mean it is a flop. bro manga sales are everything in Japan. The one of the main reason they make anime adaptation if for the sales of the manga. it's big no one is denying that, but the manga sales didn't meat the level of success they ware expecting, for the cost of production they put into the chainsaw man and for all the different endings for every episode (which they admitted was a bad decision) |
Yesterday, 7:11 AM
#49
Yes, absolutely 👍 |
Yesterday, 3:00 PM
#50
Reply to Confused_100
Dan_ALves said:
@Confused_100 And that would allow a could stopping point? Or would it end on a cliffhanger?
@Confused_100 And that would allow a could stopping point? Or would it end on a cliffhanger?
No cliffhanger, don’t worry. It just ends part 1 of the manga.
@Confused_100 I would be fine with a cliffhanger, but I´m always happier if it´s not. Thanks. |
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