| Regarding animanga, IIRC it started/was popularized by Zero no Tsukaima, but was there something before it? |
| Here are some notable examples of the magic school trope before Harry Potter: The Worst Witch (1974) by Jill Murphy: This book features a young witch named Mildred Hubble who attends a magical academy called Cackle's Academy. A Wizard of Earthsea (1968) by Ursula K. Le Guin: The story includes a school for wizards, Roke, where young mages learn about their powers. The Magician's Nephew (1955) by C.S. Lewis: While not focused entirely on a magic school, it contains elements of magical education and mentorship. The Enchanted Forest Chronicles (1985-1990) by Patricia C. Wrede: This series features various magical beings and includes schools of magic. The Chronicles of Prydain (1964-1968) by Lloyd Alexander: This series has elements of magic and mentorship, though it doesn't focus solely on a school. |
| There are prior examples if you look for them but Harry Potter was far more important than any of them. Though Harry Potter itself is heavily derivative of a much older genre of British boarding school stories that had fallen out of fashion long ago, notably Tom Brown's School Days. Funny to think about the clear chain of influence from the fictionalized memoirs of a moderately important Victorian politician to Harry Potter to Zero no Tsukaima to the vending machine isekai but it's there |
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Here are some notable examples of the magic school trope before Harry Potter:
The Worst Witch (1974) by Jill Murphy: This book features a young witch named Mildred Hubble who attends a magical academy called Cackle's Academy.
A Wizard of Earthsea (1968) by Ursula K. Le Guin: The story includes a school for wizards, Roke, where young mages learn about their powers.
The Magician's Nephew (1955) by C.S. Lewis: While not focused entirely on a magic school, it contains elements of magical education and mentorship.
The Enchanted Forest Chronicles (1985-1990) by Patricia C. Wrede: This series features various magical beings and includes schools of magic.
The Chronicles of Prydain (1964-1968) by Lloyd Alexander: This series has elements of magic and mentorship, though it doesn't focus solely on a school.
The Worst Witch (1974) by Jill Murphy: This book features a young witch named Mildred Hubble who attends a magical academy called Cackle's Academy.
A Wizard of Earthsea (1968) by Ursula K. Le Guin: The story includes a school for wizards, Roke, where young mages learn about their powers.
The Magician's Nephew (1955) by C.S. Lewis: While not focused entirely on a magic school, it contains elements of magical education and mentorship.
The Enchanted Forest Chronicles (1985-1990) by Patricia C. Wrede: This series features various magical beings and includes schools of magic.
The Chronicles of Prydain (1964-1968) by Lloyd Alexander: This series has elements of magic and mentorship, though it doesn't focus solely on a school.
| @tchitchouan Thank you, ChatGPT!!! |
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Thank you, ChatGPT!!!
Thank you, ChatGPT!!!
| @thewiru No, i got the answer like Normal People from a Quora forum post. You could have googled it yourself instead of making a thread on it in here. https://www.quora.com/Was-the-magic-school-trope-around-before-Harry-Potter-I-like-some-media-with-this-idea-and-I-m-worried-that-once-I-share-that-people-will-immediately-say-that-s-a-Harry-Potter-knockoff-when-the-trope-preceded-that |
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Here are some notable examples of the magic school trope before Harry Potter:
The Worst Witch (1974) by Jill Murphy: This book features a young witch named Mildred Hubble who attends a magical academy called Cackle's Academy.
A Wizard of Earthsea (1968) by Ursula K. Le Guin: The story includes a school for wizards, Roke, where young mages learn about their powers.
The Magician's Nephew (1955) by C.S. Lewis: While not focused entirely on a magic school, it contains elements of magical education and mentorship.
The Enchanted Forest Chronicles (1985-1990) by Patricia C. Wrede: This series features various magical beings and includes schools of magic.
The Chronicles of Prydain (1964-1968) by Lloyd Alexander: This series has elements of magic and mentorship, though it doesn't focus solely on a school.
The Worst Witch (1974) by Jill Murphy: This book features a young witch named Mildred Hubble who attends a magical academy called Cackle's Academy.
A Wizard of Earthsea (1968) by Ursula K. Le Guin: The story includes a school for wizards, Roke, where young mages learn about their powers.
The Magician's Nephew (1955) by C.S. Lewis: While not focused entirely on a magic school, it contains elements of magical education and mentorship.
The Enchanted Forest Chronicles (1985-1990) by Patricia C. Wrede: This series features various magical beings and includes schools of magic.
The Chronicles of Prydain (1964-1968) by Lloyd Alexander: This series has elements of magic and mentorship, though it doesn't focus solely on a school.
tchitchouan said: The Magician's Nephew (1955) by C.S. Lewis: While not focused entirely on a magic school, it contains elements of magical education and mentorship. tchitchouan said: The Chronicles of Prydain (1964-1968) by Lloyd Alexander: This series has elements of magic and mentorship, though it doesn't focus solely on a school. I've read both these books and I think your descriptors are awful. |
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tchitchouan said:
The Magician's Nephew (1955) by C.S. Lewis: While not focused entirely on a magic school, it contains elements of magical education and mentorship.
The Magician's Nephew (1955) by C.S. Lewis: While not focused entirely on a magic school, it contains elements of magical education and mentorship.
tchitchouan said:
The Chronicles of Prydain (1964-1968) by Lloyd Alexander: This series has elements of magic and mentorship, though it doesn't focus solely on a school.
The Chronicles of Prydain (1964-1968) by Lloyd Alexander: This series has elements of magic and mentorship, though it doesn't focus solely on a school.
I've read both these books and I think your descriptors are awful.
| @Lucifrost The descriptions aren't mine, i copied them directly from here https://www.quora.com/Was-the-magic-school-trope-around-before-Harry-Potter-I-like-some-media-with-this-idea-and-I-m-worried-that-once-I-share-that-people-will-immediately-say-that-s-a-Harry-Potter-knockoff-when-the-trope-preceded-that I don't even know nor have i read any of those books. |
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@thewiru No, i got the answer like Normal People from a Quora forum post. You could have googled it yourself instead of making a thread on it in here.
https://www.quora.com/Was-the-magic-school-trope-around-before-Harry-Potter-I-like-some-media-with-this-idea-and-I-m-worried-that-once-I-share-that-people-will-immediately-say-that-s-a-Harry-Potter-knockoff-when-the-trope-preceded-that
https://www.quora.com/Was-the-magic-school-trope-around-before-Harry-Potter-I-like-some-media-with-this-idea-and-I-m-worried-that-once-I-share-that-people-will-immediately-say-that-s-a-Harry-Potter-knockoff-when-the-trope-preceded-that
| @tchitchouan Am I such an old-fashioned man for preferring simply asking people directly? |
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@tchitchouan
Am I such an old-fashioned man for preferring simply asking people directly?
Am I such an old-fashioned man for preferring simply asking people directly?
| @thewiru No not necessarily, quite the opposite in fact. But checking for answers posted online first would be quite useful before asking people directly. |
| Svartiskóli from Sæmundr fróði a Islandic legend from 11th century. Europe has other ones, Cueva de Salamanca, Domdaniel . . . Excluding that we have a lot of magical cities in jrpg and books like Lodoss War, and Slayers, and Orphen. And gakuen alice was there before Zero no tsukaima too. Give credits to Worst Witch (it has a 98 tv drama), it is fully ripped off in Little witch academia. |
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| There's a massive difference between a setting and a trope |
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