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Jul 9, 7:44 AM
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Studio bind feels like they were forced to make mushoku tensei as the shows they put out nowadays are literally just CGDCT, like they seem more passionate about those shows then mushoku tensei. The animation quality for onimai and ruri rocks is soooo good and flower and ashura (or whatever it's name was) had decent animation (in terms of studio bind standards).

Mushoku Tensei S2's animation feels pretty lackluster compared to S1 or even onimai. It really feels like they were forced into making mushoku tensei (not in the literally sense of forcing but rather just like they were not THAT interested in making action shows in general)

P.S. I am not saying that S2 of mushoku tensei looked bad, it was fabulously animated and animation is like one of the best but compared to the other shows like onimai, the animation feels a little off. I am also not saying the animators were not passionate about the second season, just that they were not as much passionate about it as the other shows they make.

I just noticed all this and thought I would share and hear other people's opinions. Thank you for reading me blabber about moving drawings.
Jul 9, 7:49 AM
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I think Studio Bind is glad about the job of adapting Mushoku Tensei, it's their magnum opus.
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Jul 9, 7:51 AM
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I did not expect bind to be behind my 1st drop of the season the stone anime. Hope they continue Onimai though. That is peak. The sad truth of anime is that more seasons are often treated as diminishing returns so only huge ips can manage multiple seasons.
Jul 9, 7:54 AM
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What's your point, Sir?
Jul 9, 7:58 AM
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That's just your opinion. As far as I can see, every project has the same passion, in fact, it feels like they're going all out more on mushoku tensei, so I don't really understand where you get that impression from.
Jul 9, 7:59 AM
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Studio Bind was literally formed to animate Mushoku Tensei, and although as you said, season 2 definitely had some quality problems, I would say it is more of a matter of schedule issues rather than passion for the work.
Jul 9, 8:16 AM
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I don't know if any of this is true, but I heard the opposite, that Studio Bind was actually founded on purpose to adapt Mushoku Tensei. For a while that's all they did.
Jul 9, 10:06 AM
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People really be saying anything
Jul 9, 10:07 AM
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Bind did a good job adapting Mushoku Tensei, though I don't like how they sometimes cut important scenes and shots, that completely change the context of the scene, like for example during the Hydra fight.
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Jul 9, 10:08 AM
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I still can't find where people say the differences on season 2 and season 1's animation is, except for the opening sequences
Jul 9, 10:32 AM
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EasyFlaps said:
People really be saying anything

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Jul 9, 11:29 AM
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This is a really poor take
Jul 9, 12:00 PM

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I don't think there's a lack of passion. These anime all have much different deadlines and funding. I assume the deadlines for bigger projects are much tighter due to the stakeholders having much more to lose in comparison to sth like a slice of life anime. Depends on each contract.
Jul 9, 12:21 PM
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I usually don't like Mushoku Tensei's animation, just the action scenes
Jul 9, 1:17 PM
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I thought that studio bind was founded just for moshuko.
Jul 9, 1:38 PM

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Oddly enough I remember one instance in season 1 part 2 where the animation was a little poor.

To avoid spoilers I'll be vague. That one scene when Rudeus drops the cup of red liquid (wine?) and falls in show motion as his adventures with the other character in the room flash by.

The cup was changing shape as it spun around while falling. The lighting also doesn't maintain temporal coherence.

And by the way s1 part 2 is literally in my favorites, so I'm not saying it sucked just because of that. Just saying that scene is the worst instance of poor animation that I remember.
Jul 9, 4:05 PM

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People will disagree with you but I completely agree. Maybe I’d be less butthurt of the downgrade in MT if the other stuff they did actually interested me but it’s just stuff of my least favourite genre aside from yuri.
Jul 9, 5:52 PM
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ok, so I just made an observation of what I noticed, (that is how onimai and ruri were better animated that mushoku tensei S2 and that studio bind seems to like making CGDCT shows more than mushoku tensei) I am not giving a solid take or anything. I was just sharing an observation but If I am wrong that is that.

I know studio bind was made for mushoku tensei, but there was more to it. it was more of a scheduling issue for white fox and that is why they made the studio, at least that is what I inferred from the wikipedia.

I am sorry if my english is confusing I am not really good at it as it's my second language.
Jul 9, 10:37 PM
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ReMightyRon said:
I usually don't like Mushoku Tensei's animation, just the action scenes

not even season 1? whats your problem with it? or is it just the art style?
Jul 9, 11:24 PM
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comparing a CGDCT animation to a fantasy series with tons of fight scenes is retarded
Jul 9, 11:25 PM
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anytime MT clowns complain about " bad animation " i remember that I'm Arifureta fan and these clowns have no idea what a truly bad adaptation and animation is
Jul 9, 11:31 PM
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ReMightyRon said:
I usually don't like Mushoku Tensei's animation, just the action scenes

not even season 1? whats your problem with it? or is it just the art style?
@keinboesewicht Yes, not even the first season, and you're right, I don't like the aesthetics and style of the art, especially the character designs, it bothers me, they are very simple and childish compared to the light novel covers, which are beautiful, if you've never looked at the LN cover, I recommend you do.
Jul 10, 12:31 AM

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Without Mushoku Tensie Studio Bind wouldn't exist. These are literally side quests to make money to fund more Mushoku Tensie. I didn't watched mineralogy one but S2 animation still tops Flower and Asura. Animation was good during action which is what matters.
Although it can be said Onimai is their best work so far.
Jul 10, 12:34 AM
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I don't know about them not being passionate for Mushoku Tensei or not, but season 2 was definitely nowhere near as good as season 1. Part 1 was really not good and part 2 was nice but the animations were bad in my opinion. I really hope they step it up because season 3 will have by far the best content of Mushoku Tensei.

If they really can't do good here then that means they don't care about Mushoku all that much
Jul 10, 9:27 AM
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I doubt that they weren't passionate, its more likely that the higher ups gave them a tight deadline so they had to cut some corners
Jul 10, 11:34 AM
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This won't ever reach the height of S1 again until Shingo Fuji decides to give a damn about MT again
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Saimatsu_Fan said:
comparing a CGDCT animation to a fantasy series with tons of fight scenes is retarded

And the said CGDCT obviously looks better? Onimai is legitly one of best animated shows for the past 5 years — what's your point exactly?
Jul 10, 1:15 PM
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@ReMightyRon i can understand that. after all anime tend to make character designs more bland than their original (manga or LN), to make them easier to animate. so if the LN covers were your first encounter with the characters i can see that even season 1 feels like a downgrade in terms of art style.

the animation is still amazing though
Jul 10, 5:43 PM
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Ren_Nohihara7005 said:
Studio bind feels like they were forced to make mushoku tensei as the shows they put out nowadays are literally just CGDCT, like they seem more passionate about those shows then mushoku tensei. The animation quality for onimai and ruri rocks is soooo good and flower and ashura (or whatever it's name was) had decent animation (in terms of studio bind standards).

Mushoku Tensei S2's animation feels pretty lackluster compared to S1 or even onimai. It really feels like they were forced into making mushoku tensei (not in the literally sense of forcing but rather just like they were not THAT interested in making action shows in general)

P.S. I am not saying that S2 of mushoku tensei looked bad, it was fabulously animated and animation is like one of the best but compared to the other shows like onimai, the animation feels a little off. I am also not saying the animators were not passionate about the second season, just that they were not as much passionate about it as the other shows they make.

I just noticed all this and thought I would share and hear other people's opinions. Thank you for reading me blabber about moving drawings.

good. onimai is a fire anime, so the good animation is 100% justified. mushoku tensei in my opinion was only saved from being absolutely abysmal by good animation.
Jul 10, 5:45 PM
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Saimatsu_Fan said:
anytime MT clowns complain about " bad animation " i remember that I'm Arifureta fan and these clowns have no idea what a truly bad adaptation and animation is

I feel bad for fans of the spiral horror manga by junji Ito or whoever. they had a rough time with their animation didn't they.
Jul 11, 11:48 AM
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I heard that in S2 production, most of the staff that worked in S1 were working on other projects including onimai, and specifically, the director of Mushoku Tensei finally achieved his personal dream of working in an "idolmaster project" (idolmaster u149).

Add all of this and a possible schedule issue, it's understandable that the quality dropped or changed. I personally felt that the character design/style changed. Not too much, but it's noticeable. Kinda as if the original character designer left and someone else took the job and tried the best to replicate the original style -which is what probably happened knowing that the character designer also left for S2.

I strongly believe that the team that worked on S2, worked really hard and that they tried their best though.

I did notice that quality wasn't as good as on S1 and that onimai generally looked miles better quality wise and much more polished, same occurs with Ruri Rocks, which feels ironic and somewhat dissapointing. What happens wirh MT? Lack of funds? Lack of staff?

It's probable that S1 simply had a lot of skilled freelancers as well. May need to research more on that. I believe that's the reason, besides director, character designer and script writer leaving and not working in S2.

It's still well known that Studio Bind was created with the sole purpose of adapting Mushoku Tensei, so I don't think that they lack passion, it's more like a fraction of the staff that worked on Mushoku Tensei may have left or simply preferred to work on other projects. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯
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It's sad that they seem to allocate their best staff to these useless CGDCTs, whose only memory will be of their animation and nothing else.
Jul 21, 1:25 AM

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bruh studio bind was literally created to adapt mt what are you on

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Studio Bind is a Japanese animation studio known for quality anime production.
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Ren_Nohihara7005 said:
Studio bind feels like they were forced to make mushoku tensei as the shows they put out nowadays are literally just CGDCT, like they seem more passionate about those shows then mushoku tensei. The animation quality for onimai and ruri rocks is soooo good and flower and ashura (or whatever it's name was) had decent animation (in terms of studio bind standards).

Mushoku Tensei S2's animation feels pretty lackluster compared to S1 or even onimai. It really feels like they were forced into making mushoku tensei (not in the literally sense of forcing but rather just like they were not THAT interested in making action shows in general)

P.S. I am not saying that S2 of mushoku tensei looked bad, it was fabulously animated and animation is like one of the best but compared to the other shows like onimai, the animation feels a little off. I am also not saying the animators were not passionate about the second season, just that they were not as much passionate about it as the other shows they make.

I just noticed all this and thought I would share and hear other people's opinions. Thank you for reading me blabber about moving drawings.

I just don’t agree with this take whatsoever. Studio Bind was created with Mushoku Tensei in mind. There is a reason why Mushoku Tensei took years to get an anime adaptation. Author didn’t want to give the rights to just anyone.
Aug 5, 10:56 PM
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Ronninn said:
And the said CGDCT obviously looks better?


Thankfully this is just your opinion and not fact.

So whats your point exactly?
Aug 6, 5:46 AM
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animefanftw123 said:
Ronninn said:
And the said CGDCT obviously looks better?


Thankfully this is just your opinion and not fact.

So whats your point exactly?

Are you blind? That may be a fact then.
Aug 6, 6:31 AM
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Ronninn said:
Are you blind?


Are you?

What does/doesnt "look better" is subjective.

Im sure theres at least a few ppl saying Ruri Rocks doesnt look good.

Yet despite RR having "better animation", MT is ranked higher on MAL.

So that just tells you that better animation isnt everything.
animefanftw123Aug 6, 6:36 AM
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Are you blind?


Are you?

What does/doesnt "look better" is subjective.

Im sure theres at least a few ppl saying Ruri Rocks doesnt look good.

Yet despite RR having "better animation", MT is ranked higher on MAL.

So that just tells you that better animation isnt everything.
animefanftw123 said:

What does/doesnt "look better" is subjective


No, it isn't, at least not entirely. It's one thing to say you prefer a specific style/visual approach over the other, that is subjective, but when you talk about something being "better", specifically from a production standpoint, you're certainly taking objective technical qualities into conversation instead.

Like, if someone said "TBATE looks better than Violet Evergarden", that isn't subjective.
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I heard that in S2 production, most of the staff that worked in S1 were working on other projects including onimai, and specifically, the director of Mushoku Tensei finally achieved his personal dream of working in an "idolmaster project" (idolmaster u149).

Add all of this and a possible schedule issue, it's understandable that the quality dropped or changed. I personally felt that the character design/style changed. Not too much, but it's noticeable. Kinda as if the original character designer left and someone else took the job and tried the best to replicate the original style -which is what probably happened knowing that the character designer also left for S2.

I strongly believe that the team that worked on S2, worked really hard and that they tried their best though.

I did notice that quality wasn't as good as on S1 and that onimai generally looked miles better quality wise and much more polished, same occurs with Ruri Rocks, which feels ironic and somewhat dissapointing. What happens wirh MT? Lack of funds? Lack of staff?

It's probable that S1 simply had a lot of skilled freelancers as well. May need to research more on that. I believe that's the reason, besides director, character designer and script writer leaving and not working in S2.

It's still well known that Studio Bind was created with the sole purpose of adapting Mushoku Tensei, so I don't think that they lack passion, it's more like a fraction of the staff that worked on Mushoku Tensei may have left or simply preferred to work on other projects. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯
shouxye said:
and specifically, the director of Mushoku Tensei finally achieved his personal dream of working in an "idolmaster project"


Okamoto had already participated in Idolmaster before, storyboarding and directing in both seasons of Cinderella Girls, he just chose it over MT because he likes it more.
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Oongbuh said:
No, it isn't, at least not entirely. It's one thing to say you prefer a specific style/visual approach over the other, that is subjective, but when you talk about something being "better", specifically from a production standpoint, you're certainly taking objective technical qualities into conversation instead.


Yes and thats what everyonje is saying about RR.

Its "visually" better than MT. I mean theres nothing more to RR besides the animation.

The character depth, story and pretty much everything else is better for MT.

So thnx for confirming what i said.

Oongbuh said:
Like, if someone said "TBATE looks better than Violet Evergarden", that isn't subjective.


Uhh, thats 100% subjective.

For whatever reason, 1 person might not like how Violet looks yet like TBATE better.

If something looks better is a subective standpoint going off what you just said.

Oongbuh said:
It's one thing to say you prefer a specific style/visual approach over the other, that is subjective,


Either way, we're getting waay off-topic here so im done discussing this as this isnt what this thread is about.
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