Is this show another case of the female character getting sidelined

FutoiOtaku said:
It’s called Sakamoto Days, not Shaotang Days…
I think she plays a good part in most episodes tbh, and being voiced by Ayaneru makes her a top character for me.

FutoiOtaku said:
It’s called Sakamoto Days, not Shaotang Days…

DillanSmokes said:
What? She plays a good part in the show and it’s only 5 episodes and you’re complaining she not already getting enough appearances? Like everyone else said the show is, “Sakamoto”Days.

killohatesusall said:
So what? Same as Nagumo. He is supposed to be an ally as well and he only appeared 5 minutes in one episode and I don't see anyone complaining about it

Ruthless_Lord said:
It's a show about assassins, shin is an Assassin so he will get more screen time, lu isn't one same as sakamoto's family, so they will get less screen time.

This has nothing to do with male or female, please don't do your politics here. This anime has a lot of cool female characters too.

CocoJaypee said:

Uhhhh I don't think this is a good comparison because Nagumo works for another organization so it's only right that he shouldn't be seen that often.

Lu on the other hand quite literally works for Sakamoto, so the person that you should be comparing her to is SHIN

And between her and Shin, it's clear who's taking a more active role in the scenes

And what do you mean "So what?" A lot of shounen animes have fallen into the pitfall of underutilizing their female characters and I don't what this show to do the same with Lu

killohatesusall said:

A lot of shounen animes underutilize male characters as well. Leorio from HxH for example
I don't think it's a question about being male or female, it's just that some characters in ANY anime are gonna be underutilized

CocoJaypee said:

Hmmm i dunno, with Lu's skills she could easily participate in the action. Why even give her martial arts skills in the first place if she's going to be sidelined in the fight scenes against the assassins?

Ruthless_Lord said:

I think whatever answer I give you, you won't be satisfied but the thing is she clearly doesn't want to fight. That's the whole reason she retired from triad and working on a shop.

And compared to sakamoto and shin, her skills are very inferior too, she only managed to fight in a drunk state, whereas sakamoto was the best Assassin and shin has mind reading abilities.

Now don't complain that writer made her weaker because she is a women

CocoJaypee said:

Well this is disappointing. The main female character and she doesn't even have an active role in the fight scenes

Ruthless_Lord said:

It's a you problem. Her character is such that she doesn't wanna fight.

Maybe you should watch Hollywood content, nowadays it's filled with only female characters.

CocoJaypee said:

Gurl it's a battle show, why the heck would the tritagonist, or at the very least a major supporting character, be written that she doesn't want to fight?

A lot of shounen anime fall into this pitfall of underutilizing their female characters and I'm sick of it, so dont even try to say that it's a you problem.

Ruthless_Lord said:

This is my last comment.

I already knew from your post that it's a waste of time convincing you otherwise, it's my fault for wasting my time here. No matter what anyone says here, I know you won't listen, you are already convinced otherwise.

I don't even know why someone like you even watching shonen anime, maybe you should reconsider that.

ryzxgum said:
she's not a main character like sakamoto and shin so obviously she wouldn't get attention like them, her being male or female is irrelevant.

KimgeaR said:
@CocoJaypee Hm, I think you're onto something.

FutoiOtaku said:
It’s called Sakamoto Days, not Shaotang Days…
I think she plays a good part in most episodes tbh, and being voiced by Ayaneru makes her a top character for me.

ejleon said:

You said what I was thinking. Thank you! 👏

She is literally a “side character” to the main character. She plays her role perfectly within the framework of the show and has her moments in the show as well.

This whole “she is being sidelined” is starting from a falsely framed assumption that she is “main female character”, but in way of thinking, why not ask if the mother or daughter are being sidelined as well.

Sometimes people ask the strangest questions on the forums.

DarkCentauri said:
in the first place, shaotang isn't a main character. she's just a part of the cast. the main focus is on sakamoto with shin being a kind of pseudo narrator

CocoJaypee said:

The heck? Why are you misinterpreting what I said into me wanting her to steal the spotlight from Sakamoto?

And I don't think she plays a fair part in the show if she's supposed to be Sakamoto's ally in helping him fight against assassins. If she really was playing a good part then she should've been written to have a more prolonged fight with Obiguro and participated in the paint ball tournament. And yet she was quite literally sidelined and took on a cheering role

Yes it's only been a few episodes but from these instances, it's already a red flag to me about the nature of Lu's character

DarkCentauri said:

I think you are the misinterpreting shaotang's character. Even if she is Sakamoto's ally, she is still a side character at best, so ofcourse she is sidelined. And it's not just her, Sakamoto gets preference over every other character. So if you're going to look at that and complain about 'red flags' and such, you. should just stop watching and go back to complaining about patriarchy on twitter or something

RKThePartWriter said:
At least the female characters aren't sexualised that'll make them become "fansevice mascots" as the story is PG-13 (except the killings made by the hit men). I've seen worse sexist portrayals of female characters in other shonen manga. Be glad that Lu or any other female characters showing up in this series aren't portrayed with such objectified portrayal.

ryzxgum said:
@CocoJaypee yeah, she's not. tagging along doesn't warrant for her to be anything special. it's not bad writing, it's a matter of reading comprehension. sakamoto's wife also tags along with the group, is she supposed to be a tritagonist? the daughter does, she as well? heisuke did in the latest episode, is he supposed to be another one? that's your logic. i don't see what martial arts has to do with anything, almost everyone in the series has some level of martial arts, so your point doesn't even make sense.

ryzxgum said:
@CocoJaypee nah, they have appeared in every episode. first you said that tagging along is supposed to make her a tritagonist and now you're moving the goalpost again? the makings of a weak argument right there, please try again.

i don't see where it says that anyone who can fight should be a tritagonist. this just sounds more dumb.

doesn't matter, you said tagging along is what makes the difference. stop moving the goalpost, the weak foundation of your post is revealing itself.

oh so you do have enough brains to realize that she's just a supporting character and nothing more. that means there's no need to continue with this pointless thread, you just helped my case.

she was a simple side character from the start, what does being part of the mafia have to do with anything? so characters need to have 0 background to be a side character? lol just when i thought this couldn't get any more dumb.

CocoJaypee said:

Side character yet she tags along on every scene so far...

Gurl Nagumo is a side character, Lu is not. At least, for these first few arcs

Does this mean Shin is a side character as well? If so, how come he gets more fleshed out when Lu also has some decent fighting capabilities?

As for Aoi and Hana, they are not fighters, so it's only logical that they're going to be sidelined in the fight scenes because they wont contribute anything

But Lu can so how come she isn't getting highlighted

ejleon said:

I can’t believe you read and responded to my comment, didn’t expect that. 😂

All the other characters are “side charterers”, they are not the main character.

Will you just honestly admit that you just like Lu, so you want her to have more front time in the anime.

CocoJaypee said:
compare her with other less prominent characters?

ryzxgum said:
@CocoJaypee yeah, and that's all she does so what's your point?

shin isn't a side character, he's the deuteragonist. you answered your own question. because she's also a less prominent character, so i compared her with characters on her level.

Zarutaku said:
The focus of the show is Sakamoto, so it's obvious everyone else will be sidelined, doesn't matter if male or female, so stop fueling needless gender wars.

Zarutaku said:
@CocoJaypee Shin seems to have more screen time because of how his mind reading ability is used to make the show more special.

DarkCentauri said:
@CocoJaypee So far is only 5 episodes. Just because you think she is a main character doesn't mean she is. Not every show needs a separate female main character, and most of us can see that.
What you are trying to do is change shaotang's character from someone who just wants to live in peace into some battle crazed maniac, all to support and back your views, which is just disrespectful
I resorted to the 'stop watching' line because you resorted to saying 'red flag' like this is some big political
statement. If you can criticize the show, I can criticize your comments about it.
In the end, you're just mad that the show about assassins fighting doesn't make feminism it's main focus.

DarkCentauri said:
@CocoJaypee If you are sad that her character is underutilized and ignored, that's one thing and it is a valid concern. But with the way you are acting in the entire thread, putting so much emphasis on her being ignored as a female instead of just as a normal character,you are falsely attacking the author for sexism, so obviously people are going to get mad. As someone else said, stop fueling needless gender wars.