Dr. Stone: Science Future Part 2 Episode 11 Discussion

We have strayed SO FAR from the original premise of a semi-believable afternoon science club, through "streamlining" and oversimplification and fastforwarding, not to mention straight-up shounen, to whatever this was, I just can't even. The warning at the end seems completely pointless and superfluous at this point, because nobody could even attempt to follow any "science" anymore.


Yeah, sure, that's just how science works, right? Sorry not sorry but even a willing suspension of disbelief can only stretch so far. And it'd gotten well past breaking point several times already. Now with little Suika, who couldn't even distinguish faces without her glasses, is suddenly reading tightly packed pages of science, following instructions to create revival fluid.... after who knows how much time of searching up and down for the last remnants of the batch they did have. And suddenly in all that time, time actually passes and it's visible and she gets to grow up. Right.

On top of all this, the emotional manipulation is way too obvious.

We have strayed SO FAR from the original premise of a semi-believable afternoon science club, through "streamlining" and oversimplification and fastforwarding, not to mention straight-up shounen, to whatever this was, I just can't even. The warning at the end seems completely pointless and superfluous at this point, because nobody could even attempt to follow any "science" anymore.


Yeah, sure, that's just how science works, right? Sorry not sorry but even a willing suspension of disbelief can only stretch so far. And it'd gotten well past breaking point several times already. Now with little Suika, who couldn't even distinguish faces without her glasses, is suddenly reading tightly packed pages of science, following instructions to create revival fluid.... after who knows how much time of searching up and down for the last remnants of the batch they did have. And suddenly in all that time, time actually passes and it's visible and she gets to grow up. Right.

On top of all this, the emotional manipulation is way too obvious.

so it took her 7 years from her wake up or 7 years in total? we got a timelaps and a lot of plants growing while they were stoned in just some years. aha.

@yellowheartren

While I do agree we have strayed so far from the original premise, this has been the case since season 2.

You do realize that the numbers on the papers were not steps, right? They were 3 different ways to achieve the same thing.
Suika put away the 3rd one because she wanted to save everyone the fastest way possible and that method would take a year.
Eventually, she realizes that one is her best shot because she failed with the 1st and 2nd alternatives.

Regarding Suika's ability to do all this, it took her 7 years while following the most basic method. If anything, the most absurd thing about all of this is this 8-year-old not giving up after being alone and hopeless for so long.

"On top of all this, the emotional manipulation is way too obvious."
What does this mean? Every single piece of media is trying to manipulate the emotions of its consumers.
Seeing a character we have known since season 1 struggle alone is meant to be sad. Her being younger than everyone else is supposed to add to that.

Edit: The glasses thing is the only indefensible part because the author wanted things to happen like this and ignored how bad her vision was shown to be 3 seasons ago.

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@yellowheartren Those are some of my biggest problems with Dr. STONE too. This series could've been SO MUCH better if it took itself a little more seriously AND the pacing didn't become so fast with just the 2nd season. In some ways, Season 1 is still peak Dr. STONE. I liked it when the series had a much slower pacing and would explain every scientific invention step by step. Every step felt like a journey. Like when they went to get sulfuric acid. I still remember that. I don't like how everything is just skimmed over without giving much importance like when they built Perseus or how in this season they just made the fortress instantly. Sure, things would become much slower. But that's not really a bad thing.

Which brings me to my second point. Most characters in this series is very one-dimensional. Every once in a while someone does get some time to shine like Suika in this episode but it's like these characters don't even exist when the plot doesn't need them. If the pacing was slower, there might be more time to explore these characters and make them human. You can hear the characters say their "unique and quirky" catchphrase with their exaggerated voice so many times before going mad. Luna has to be the worst offender here. "I am cool-headed Luna." yeah I got that the past 100 times you said it. The author should know that's not how you write compelling characters. Also, so many of the past villains become "good guys" and we're just supposed to accept that somehow. It doesn't even matter cause none of them really even do anything interesting. I think only Magma, Tsukasa and Hyoga were properly redeemed, just barely, if you can even call it that. But again, they only do anything when the plot needs it. Tsukasa especially feels like an incredibly wasted character considering he was the first antagonist of this series. I feel like it could've been great if the characters of Ryusui and Tsukasa were merged somehow.

These are pretty major flaws imo. Dr. STONE is a very plot-driven series, not character-driven. Personally, I prefer the latter more. But ideally, you want a balance of both. Despite its flaws the series is pretty unique and I'm not gonna just randomly stop watching it. Call it the sunk cost fallacy or whatever. But I'm not gonna look past its flaws either. I just feel disappointed in what Dr. STONE could've been.