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Mar 24, 6:01 AM
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What is your opinion of the Endless Eight episodes? There is no way something like this will be possible nowadays, having the same episode reanimated 8 times in a row. Was the light novel handled in the same way? For me this was actually quite an effective method to make me understand how a time loop feels like.
Mar 24, 6:13 AM
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Endless Eight isn't that bad if you're binging it, but it would have been rough in real time as it was airing. I've watched this series several times and by extension the Endless Eight several times, and I actually like it now. From what I understand the novel covered the whole Endless Eight in one or two chapters, but I haven't read it yet.
Mar 24, 6:20 AM
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Reply to Kanudelgruber
Endless Eight isn't that bad if you're binging it, but it would have been rough in real time as it was airing. I've watched this series several times and by extension the Endless Eight several times, and I actually like it now. From what I understand the novel covered the whole Endless Eight in one or two chapters, but I haven't read it yet.
@Kanudelgruber I was quite shoked actually that the loop was not resolved on the second episode, like it typically does and was quite satisfied on the eight episode, having binged all of them and finally being free from the loop.
Mar 24, 6:46 AM
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fantastic idea, but I am not rewatching it
Mar 24, 7:09 AM
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It's an ingenious idea that keeps people frequently mentioning the series even today, one of the most effective types of advertising.
Mar 24, 7:21 AM
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It’s an interesting idea that wasn’t well executed in practice. If they had shown only four of the time loops instead of eight it might have been better received.

It’s been a while since I’ve read the light novel but I believe each of the eight loops was its own chapter. I remember reading this part of the light novel before it got animated and was very confused initially.
Mar 24, 7:35 AM
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The best part was that all eight episodes of Endless Eight were completely reanimated from scratch each time, rather than reusing the same animation. KyoAni put in the effort to animate each episode individually.
Mar 24, 7:37 AM
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killed the show, killed the franchise. all the hype and goodwill the show had was lost. then they tried to make up for it with a so so movie and a spin off nobody wanted.
Mar 24, 7:37 AM
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Larsonsan10 said:
The best part was that all eight episodes of Endless Eight were completely reanimated from scratch each time, rather than reusing the same animation. KyoAni put in the effort to animate each episode individually.

If they did not reanimate and change clothes I would have gone crazy
Mar 24, 7:51 AM

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konoha16 said:
Was the light novel handled in the same way?

The novel only covers the final loop. I didn't watch all 8 episodes and I wouldn't have read it 8 times either, because I didn't even like this story the 1st time.
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Mar 24, 8:15 AM
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Its a great way to show people what a time loop feels like. But its maddeningly frustrating back when it was airing.
Mar 24, 9:16 AM
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I watched it for the first time last year. I took a 20mg edible and binged the whole thing in one go and absolutely loved it. It was really cool seeing the subtle differences in shot composition between episodes, because the same scene is never animated the exact same way each time. After a few episodes, you’re able to start predicting exactly what’s going to happen (I made a game out of trying to say the dialogue along with the characters), but you’re still unable to anticipate what exactly the differences between the timelines will be (what characters are wearing, what bits of dialogue are included/left out, how framing is used different in the same scenes, etc.) As you said, something like Endless Eight could never be made today, which is why it’s so interesting to go back and watch a somewhat avant-garde way of storytelling; by the end you really fo FEEL like this is a situation that has played out over and over again for 500 years. I don’t think I’ve ever seen another piece of media portray an infinite time loop in the same way that Endless Eight did, which is what makes it so interesting
Mar 24, 9:33 AM
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Cool idea but it didn't need no more then 2 or 3 episodes.
Mar 24, 9:39 AM
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I thought that it was a genius concept and execution that could only be made in the anime medium. No one else anywhere would have greenlighted it.
Mar 24, 1:23 PM
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It’s a cool idea but a waste of time, which may be the takeaway from it. I am a little irked when people go “new gens don’t have the attention span for it, it’s peak.” Ultimately, it’s subjective, but I still think it was boring as a media.
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Mar 24, 2:10 PM
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I actually liked watching all the episodes, but I was binging it. If I watched it live as it aired, the fun would probably fade quite quickly
Mar 24, 2:20 PM
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man, i remember this part, i just like what the?? am i download the wrong episode?? the story are same, and i download again but different sources, and i watch again, and what the????🤣 is dis dejavuuu??🤣
Mar 24, 3:49 PM
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Ruined the second half of the show tbh
Mar 24, 3:58 PM
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it was unique, but it killed the show comercially.
I think it was bold, and a cool idea, but I would by no means call it effective or good storytelling.
Mar 24, 4:04 PM
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to be honest if the production intention was to let the audience experience the struggling and boringness of Nagato and Kyon, they did it perfectly. But even if they did something good doesn't mean that was the right choice, in my opinion 4 episodes could've been perfect.
Mar 24, 7:29 PM

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I think they are brilliant. They are fully reanimated every time but they are also a little different everytime, and imo especially the first time someone watches the series I think it’s essential to watch all 8 of them. I have rewatched this series 3 times and watched them every time, it’s really not a slog, as some people would like you to believe. It helps you understand better what the characters are going through by experiencing just a small taste of it for yourself.

This entire series, endless summer included, is pure art.
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Mar 24, 7:31 PM

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Anime_God_King said:
killed the show, killed the franchise. all the hype and goodwill the show had was lost. then they tried to make up for it with a so so movie and a spin off nobody wanted.

The best anime film of all time that covers the end of the series actually did extremely well. There is no more to adapt, that’s the end of the light novels. It certainly didn’t “kill the franchise” lol you’re way off the mark.
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Mar 24, 7:46 PM
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I knew what it was going in and watched it in one sitting. lt felt like a fever dream and I have no regrets. It's such a unique experience
Mar 24, 7:49 PM
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Imo, one the best arcs ever, most innovative one for sure in anime. I think its something someone should experience at least once in their life.
Mar 24, 7:56 PM
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The worst and pointless arc of the whole series to me. LN readers told me there're only 2 loops in the book and they're executed a lot better.
Mar 24, 8:29 PM

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Endless Eight was genius, actually too genius for a TV show, which is the problem. I have never seen any other show pull out such a bold move. They made us feel exactly like Kyon did during those episodes, we felt his anxiety like a truck, specially for us who were watching it live, having to wait for a week between releases. And they didn't go for 2 or 3 episodes, they went for EIGHT, so you could never stop thinking "this week he might break the loop, I can feel it", only to watch him failing again and again.

I respect so much this show for this, it was genius, but it clearly wasn't a good idea as it was too bold of a move.
Mar 24, 10:12 PM

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I'd be pissed about the endless 8 if I was watching weekly but since I watched it long after its released I just skipped them and watched YouTube videos going through the differences
Mar 25, 3:20 AM
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it was greatest plot-based rofl
Mar 25, 7:06 AM
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Endless 8 is literally one light novel chapter lmao. They extended it in the anime cause they wanted to make a movie as well lol
Mar 25, 11:23 AM
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It’s one of the most surreal arcs I’ve ever seen but I couldn’t help but watch all of it, and the ending was extremely satisfying even through a binge but I imagine it was serene if I was watching it when it was airing

Learning that the arc was extended because they wanted to make Disappearance into a movie made it even more surreal
Mar 25, 1:41 PM
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I warn new anime viewers about the 8 after I recommend it. It’s brutal to get through them and had I known I would have watched 1/8 and moved on.
Mar 26, 3:04 PM

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I liked it. The second time they repeated it, it was pretty shocking and the mystery element was pretty solid. It did get a bit repetitive but at least we got multiple swimsuits. Anyways, it was a pretty genius concept and I dont know why they chose eight episodes specifically especially when the loop went on for over 15000 times. Next time make 15000 episodes.
If you enjoyed the time you wasted, then its not a waste of time.

Mar 27, 9:13 PM

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I agree, tough, if you're watching it on weekly broadcast, especially since it was 2 months, but intriguing now that I'm watching it more adult.

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Mar 28, 1:37 PM
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this was my favorite anime in 2007, and when I heard it was getting a second season, I was so happy, but I was soon disappointed by the same episode over and over it ruined the show for me
Mar 30, 8:55 PM
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Its hard to endure for many people, but i think that frustration really needed to make the movie impactful.

And the fact they reanimate majority of it every single episode, not just replaying same scene with one or two different like more recent anime that tackle the same theme, is awesome IMO.
Apr 8, 11:40 PM

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I was binging this shit on nearly three days of no sleep. I vividly remember finishing six of the eight episodes, pausing during the ED, laughing like an absolute lunatic for a few seconds then going completely silent, getting out of my chair, walking to my bed, and passing out for like 12 hours.
Jun 3, 1:58 AM
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I hated it. Felt like they wasted four hours of time just to make a coy little "wink wink nudge nudge, get it?". Sure there are subtle differences, but hearing the same godforsaken explanation 8 times over, the same scenes 8 times over, the same conclusion 7 times over, and having an incredibly weak payoff at the very end that doesn't further any relationships at all isn't worth it. And spending a WHOLE episode on all of it each time? If they played back two loops in an episode and trimmed the excessive fat, it would've been better. Literally no progress for 4 hours is mind-boggling. It's not like a timeloop where there's advancement or development, where it's worth sticking around through the repetitions to see what new information crops up. For 8 episodes, there is NO new information, NO new interactions, NO character development. Nothing. And since the MC has no drive, the thought that he could ever be proactive enough to even ATTEMPT to break out of the loop never crossed my mind. It made me hate the MC for being such a lackluster pushover that he doesn't try ANYTHING for over 15,000 loops.

And for people saying "it really hammers home how a time loop feels"
It clearly didn't. Because the characters don't remember what happened and we do. Vividly and painfully. So the characters have absolutely no impetus to BREAK the time loop, even when we're stuck watching it over and over, helplessly waiting for it to end. The only character we could possibly relate to is Nagato, and she's borderline emotionless and a decorative furniture piece most of the time. And frankly, there's no way we can relate to a character who doesn't make (and isn't willing to make) efforts to resolve the situation. So we're left frustrated, watching the same crap over and over just so the director can have their "im so clever and cheeky and quirky" moment.

I genuinely dropped this anime after this arc. Three episodes of the loop would've been fine. It's not even like we watched 8 consecutive loops. The number Nagato returns jumps up by 3 or 4 each time. We just watch 7 arbitrary loops and the success loop. Whatever meaning the stunt had was vastly outweighed by the meaninglessness of the entire ordeal.

Maybe I just don't have the patience for this to truly appreciate it, but STILL, holy CRAP did that feel like a waste of time.
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I just watched this the other day for the first time. The main problem I had with is it they never actually tried breaking out of loop. He ended each one with "I'll leave it for the next me." You are the next you. They acted like being stuck in the loop was fine and they didn't need out of it. Literally put in zero effort and then ass pulled the end with absolutely no reasoning behind it besides some random imagery that had nothing to do with the answer anyway.

And we can easily understand there are slight differences between each loop by loop 3. Along with Nagato's explanation of differences without actually seeing any real differences which just rubs salt on the wound. And it doesn't even keep with how the characters had been up until that point. Why is no one at all trying to actively end the loop but every other time they try to end her out of control powers?

Kyon apparently feels sorry for Nagato going through 15k+ iterations and Asahina breaking down not being able to go back to the future but then tries nothing to stop them from suffering. And even continues to do the random summer events. Why not ask Nagato what they haven't tried yet???

And the end makes no sense. "I feel a heavy sense of deja vu. Much harder than ever before." We got that like 3 times and he couldn't even try to say anything? Was a power stopping him? No just himself for God knows why. Why didn't they ask her what she wanted to do? They just sit there. All of them. No reason. And it was just about homework she didn't even need to do but wanted to be in the presence of. Nothing has ever stopped her from volunteering herself and others for stuff so why not this too?
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Not a big fan of it. It's a fun idea, for sure, but not well executed and just comes across as a way of torturing the audience (and the poor folks who had to produce the episodes). It was interesting to see the little differences like their clothes and what kind of mask Yuki would pick, but not interesting enough to warrant eight episodes of it. Four would have sufficed. I felt like the show wasn't respecting my time. Yuki mentioned that they sometimes ended up with different jobs or didn't do certain things, how come they never showed that? It would've made this whole thing at least a bit more bearable.
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I remember 10 years ago, going on a road trip, no internet.

Luckily I downloaded all these episodes to binge watch on the road.

My surprise when most of them were mostly the same...


While in the novel they only cover the last loop, there are some people that say that having to repeat the loop multiple times in the anime, you are set in the perspective of Yuki.
While most characters don't remember each loop, Yuki does. And she did, I don't remember how many 1000+ or 10000+ of them.


It is now a memory that I don't forget.

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