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Jan 9, 2024 9:24 PM

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@LostSpectre so what you saying Cid is a parody of ? It’s changed with each person I’m talking to.

I would watch it and enjoy it far more than this unfunny predictable repetitive boring Isekai.
@ejleon The series is a parody because Cid is taking the piss out of what should otherwise be a more serious/dark story. That doesn't mean it's a parody of edgy/power fantasy type shows, because it's very much an edgy/power fantasy type show itself, the existence of Cid simply allows it to fall back on the absurdity of the MC being a full blown chuuinbyu psychopath. The 100 girlfriends anime is similar, where it's a full blown trashy harem, but it's more palatable when it knows how dumb it is and pokes fun at itself.

Also, the humor is super dry, so in the world of loud anime humor and over the top reactions, it's a bit of an outlier.
LostSpectreJan 9, 2024 9:32 PM
If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that.
Jan 9, 2024 11:42 PM

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@EdgyLord666 hm… first I’m hearing of that. Everyone kept saying he is a parody of Isekai characters. I didn’t get it. What you said more sense. Thanks for sharing.
@ejleon It's an isekai series, and some isekai MCs are edgy or the everyman trope, so I can see why people are misunderstood.
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Jan 10, 2024 8:14 AM

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@Sayan_Pal the anime is good, Cid is not, I can’t stand him
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Jan 10, 2024 8:15 AM

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@ejleon The series is a parody because Cid is taking the piss out of what should otherwise be a more serious/dark story. That doesn't mean it's a parody of edgy/power fantasy type shows, because it's very much an edgy/power fantasy type show itself, the existence of Cid simply allows it to fall back on the absurdity of the MC being a full blown chuuinbyu psychopath. The 100 girlfriends anime is similar, where it's a full blown trashy harem, but it's more palatable when it knows how dumb it is and pokes fun at itself.

Also, the humor is super dry, so in the world of loud anime humor and over the top reactions, it's a bit of an outlier.
@LostSpectre I don’t think Cid offers anything in humor for the show, the other characters do
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

Jan 10, 2024 7:36 PM
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@Sayan_Pal the anime is good, Cid is not, I can’t stand him
@ejleon he may be annoying, because the creator made him that way
Jan 10, 2024 9:09 PM

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Sayan_Pal said:
@ejleon he may be annoying, because the creator made him that way

You would be the first person to acknowledge this and that is for a reason, thank you
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

Jan 11, 2024 2:39 AM
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@ejleon he may be annoying, because the creator made him that way

You would be the first person to acknowledge this and that is for a reason, thank you
@ejleon i mean even though he is annoying,but inspite of this, i like thid annoying side
Jan 11, 2024 4:30 AM

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Sayan_Pal said:
@ejleon i mean even though he is annoying,but inspite of this, i like thid annoying side

Would you mind if friended you?
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Jan 11, 2024 7:34 PM
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@ejleon i mean even though he is annoying,but inspite of this, i like thid annoying side

Would you mind if friended you?
@ejleon no,i donot
Jan 12, 2024 3:45 AM

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@ejleon no,i donot
@Sayan_Pal thank you
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

Jan 12, 2024 3:45 AM

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@ejleon no,i donot
@Sayan_Pal thank you
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

Jan 17, 2024 1:13 AM
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bro there is no shadow garden if there is no cid going to isekai.

lmao
Jan 18, 2024 6:55 PM
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Personally the fact that there are people genuinely hate Cid instead of finding him boring proved that Cid is not just another generic isekai protagonist, which is a win in my book.

As for how you enjoy the story is up on your own. If you followed Cid's pov completely then you would not find the actual plot of the series amusing. On the other hand, this show would be way more fucked up if there wasn't any pov of Cid at all.

Which is why i believe this show is geniunely well written because you can enjoy it from various perspectives based on your tastes.
Jan 19, 2024 10:37 PM

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ejleon said:
Sayan_Pal said:
@ejleon he may be annoying, because the creator made him that way

You would be the first person to acknowledge this and that is for a reason, thank you

Not really. The director and the producer of the anime themselves acknowledged how over the top his character is and how everyone are right with their opinions on him. So, if someone finds him funny, they are not wrong, if someone finds him exciting, they too are not wrong and if someone finds him infuriating, they are not wrong as well!! Basically, the representation of Cid's character was left open. So His character is as objective as it can get!! If you checked out the recent article of an interview, you'll probably look at this anime in a different view!!
Jan 20, 2024 12:10 AM

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V1P3R0P said:
ejleon said:

You would be the first person to acknowledge this and that is for a reason, thank you

Not really. The director and the producer of the anime themselves acknowledged how over the top his character is and how everyone are right with their opinions on him. So, if someone finds him funny, they are not wrong, if someone finds him exciting, they too are not wrong and if someone finds him infuriating, they are not wrong as well!! Basically, the representation of Cid's character was left open. So His character is as objective as it can get!! If you checked out the recent article of an interview, you'll probably look at this anime in a different view!!

You did not understand my point
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

Jan 20, 2024 12:20 AM

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ejleon said:
V1P3R0P said:

Not really. The director and the producer of the anime themselves acknowledged how over the top his character is and how everyone are right with their opinions on him. So, if someone finds him funny, they are not wrong, if someone finds him exciting, they too are not wrong and if someone finds him infuriating, they are not wrong as well!! Basically, the representation of Cid's character was left open. So His character is as objective as it can get!! If you checked out the recent article of an interview, you'll probably look at this anime in a different view!!

You did not understand my point

Aight cool!! If you say so....

But my point is... Whatever is your point or doubts or whatever, just go through the interview of the director and the producer of this show and you might find your answers there, which might be more convincing to you compared to some random person's opinions and justifications in the internet.
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Jan 20, 2024 2:08 AM

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V1P3R0P said:
ejleon said:

You did not understand my point

Aight cool!! If you say so....

But my point is... Whatever is your point or doubts or whatever, just go through the interview of the director and the producer of this show and you might find your answers there, which might be more convincing to you compared to some random person's opinions and justifications in the internet.

Perhaps … but my point is that this show is not a parody and Cid is not anything like normal isekai characters
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

Jan 23, 2024 1:37 AM
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what all this shitty post ? a trolling post ? bait post ?


can you guys people just go straight the fact, " THERE IS NO SHADOW GARDEN IF THERE IS NO CID ".
Jan 27, 2024 2:50 AM
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this anime is popular and people talk about it because of The Parody of Show and shadow.
without it the anime wouldn't get this much popular or Good , it'd remain Mid seasonal Action Anime .
Just Girls Fighting An Evil org kill the boss Anime ends that's just Normal storyline .
Mar 2, 2024 8:05 PM
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Honestly, Cid needs to have his Cid Kagenou persona because it would be boring to be Eminence of Shadow all the time, wouldn't it?
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Apr 13, 2024 6:39 PM
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I've been pretty much saying this since the start. Overlord did this as well and I hate it. The show is actually good when it takes itself serious but once it tries to be funny its just so bad
Apr 13, 2024 6:42 PM
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You just don't find the joke funny. The rest of the jokes wouldn't work aswell without cid as a character, I don't see how you write a different mc to replace him without changing the note premise of the show. You could change certain jokes sure, but his concept needs to be relatively the same or it's just not as funny.

You take the pre-isekaied character from the original world and have him actually work with Shadow Garden in the new world to destroy the bad guys and help the people.

Cid is the joke in this anime, how are people missing that?

You are not laughing with him, but at him.

I think it's the expectation of most isekai fans for every show to be self insert power fantasy, which is why so many people didn't pole the executioner and her way of life, for example.

A lot of it seems to boil down to "the mc isn't how I want to project myself" I'm a lot of complaints about isekai. Mushoku tensei being another example of this, you are fairly obviously not supposed to support all of rudeus' actions, but rather their development overall as a person etc.
@Render_1 MT's mc has development, this MC doesn't. I also wouldn't mind it if he was less overpowered. It's just that every conversation is super repetitive because of this trope

''people talk, cid ''uhuh, yes, uhuh''. I mean that's fine for Pure comedy but for this it's kinda ruining it

Also people saying he's not generic when he's literally a copy of every existing parody character including overlord.
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@Render_1 MT's mc has development, this MC doesn't. I also wouldn't mind it if he was less overpowered. It's just that every conversation is super repetitive because of this trope

''people talk, cid ''uhuh, yes, uhuh''. I mean that's fine for Pure comedy but for this it's kinda ruining it

Also people saying he's not generic when he's literally a copy of every existing parody character including overlord.
@FoodstampDayo u asshole,if u not like then ignore, cid is great
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