| Is Brotherhood really a flawless masterpiece that surpasses all like everyone says it is? |
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| everything has flaws, and there is always a subjective element. However, I liked FMA:brotherhood a good amount. Good action, decent story, as well as likable characters, designs and setting. Good amount of episodes to really flesh out plot and character development usually helps too. |
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| It doesn't "surpass everything". It's not incredibly extraordinary in any particular element. What it does do is have every element that makes a good story, and top it off by having a seamless and flowing plot. Characterization? Almost the entire cast is composed of distinct personalities, with many characters being more than they first seem. Themes? The story covers a shit ton, and integrates them seamlessly into the narrative. Suspense? Check. Drama? Check. Grand scale and high stakes? Definitely. It's by far one of the most well-rounded anime of all time, and it's totally understandable why it's the number 1 rated. Sure, there are shows that focus on specific elements far better than Brotherhood. Brotherhood just happens to contain everything. |
| Brotherhood, I don't think it's the best ever but it is better than the original. The reason is that if I watch Fullmetal Alchemist after I've watched Brotherhood then I won't enjoy it as much. At the very least if Fate Stay Night has a remake as good as Brotherhood than I will be happy. |
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| Not necessarily the best ever but close to it. |
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| It's pretty solid, though the manga is totes superior. Limited by being an action series (Action is silly rubbish, like Drama and Ecchi (IMO (Don't hurt me!)...)!), but it manages to be quite deep and intelligent regardless, so I am certainly a fan. If only it wasn't Action... (;_;) |
Soge_king999Jul 11, 2014 9:33 AM
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| There wasn't much ecchi at all I think. There was hardly any as far as I can remember. |
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| I didn't mean that there was Ecchi in FMA at all. I meant that Action as an aspect in general only appeals to me about as little as Drama and Ecchi do. |
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| Sorry. I misread that. |
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| I don't deem it as the best anime ever, per se, though I do regard it as one of the most well-rounded shows in the medium, and arguably the greatest battle shounen series out there. Personally, I prefer Clannad: After Story and Steins;Gate a tad more, as I'm a huge fan of well-executed drama, to which I think those shows did amazingly well in. |
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| But you have Tokyo Ravens in your favorites and gave it a 10. I mean, I know it's not a shounen shounen, but it's still shounen, and it does have battles. I'd have probably given FMAB a 9 or 10 if I didn't subjectively disagree with it. |
| It's an alright show, but by no means is it the best. 6-7/10 |
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| it is good but not best. 9/10 |
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| I like that viewpoint. |
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| There's no such thing imo. |
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| Interesting.... |
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Piegoose said: ABHISHEKV said: Interesting.... What would you disagree with me on prolly I wouldn't say that I outright disagree with what you said because I am one of those people who preferred the early part of the 2003 series to Brotherhood as well. That pacing and quality was top class. What Brotherhood succeeded in doing was bringing everything round full circle in an impactful, meaningful way with an expanded character cast while giving sufficient closure to boot. It was a proper manga adaptation but I do still prefer the way some events transpired in the original series. Like the way it paced itself slowly early on to flesh out Mustang's and Huges' relationship. The way he was killed. The development Mustang received due to his involvement with Winry's Parents. All those were quite brilliant really. So watching both shows should give the best of both worlds. |
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| That's why I find your view interesting more than anything else. |
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| To be honest I do think Fma: B is a top notch anime and there are several reasons why. The premises are really original, The story was well thought out and it didnt have that many plot holes. It had a huge cast of characters and it handled it greatly. The main characters really had distinct personalities and were fleshed out really well. the same goes for the villains , well almost all of them, The homonculus were nice antagonists which also had distinquished personalities and pasts. The Animation is while not being outstanding, still really good and consistent. In my opinion its one of the best battle shonens out there, I'd even call it the best but then again HxH 2011 gives it competition. sorry , I am pretty new to articulating my thoughts on anime and writing about it. |
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| It's alright. There's a beginning for everything. It is indeed one of the best battle shounens without doubt. |
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| I didn't really get your question...? Could you please elaborate? |
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| I think it's an amazing anime and among the best made but to say it's the "BEST ANIME EVAR" is stretching it too far. As much as I love FMA: Brotherhood, I dislike how almost no one mentions a single flaw that the show has so I really appreciate Piegoose's review because it gives me a different perspective of the show. But other than that, it's great and has been my second favorite anime for a really long time now. |
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| Yeah....I agree. |
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Piegoose said: AllvnWalker said: In my opinion its one of the best battle shonens out there, I'd even call it the best but then again HxH 2011 gives it competition. sorry , I am pretty new to articulating my thoughts on anime and writing about it. It's all good. I actually still got to watch Hunter X Hunter. I hear it gets more serious and more complex, but the first episode (of the original series) felt very plain to me so I didn't get into it (but I didn't drop it either). Does that build up, or should it be better to just skip to the 2011 version? And yeah, I would agree FMA:B is one of the best (most complex) shounen. Yeah , the start is a introduction to the anime, the universe and the characters, but the plot gets thicker and darker. If i were you id just start with the 2011 edition, Ive never seen the original series but from what i read the remake ( 2011) portrays the story a lot better and the animation is better ( since its newer but well yeah). It also continues far past the original version, Hxh has a really good story and likeable characters who you will start caring for. the anime loks a bit happy and somewhat childish at start but it has very dark themes and one of the best ever thought out superpower thingy that ive ever seen. in my memory there are no ass pulls whatsoever |
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| It's fine to just watch the 2011 version really. It has and does everything really well. |
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| It's solid but not even close to being the best evar. Piegoose said: I would say it's good, but nowhere near deserving of the #1 spot. I actually hope for another reboot, being another pure remake of the manga story, and that they will up the episode ante while also bringing back the original director. The new director wasn't cut for it. Here's my MAL review: http://myanimelist.net/reviews.php?id=161327 Totally agreed with u boyz |
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| It's still a great series. |
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| fma brotherhood is really a great series and one of the best shounen. but, i think it doesn't deserve #1 spot. |
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| That's what everyone thinks lol. |
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ABHISHEKV said: That's what everyone thinks lol. if it is what everyone thinks then why is it at the #1 spot? |
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| Because of its solidity, consistency and the fact that it appeals to a wide audience. It's a great show. There's no doubting that and not many people give it a low score purely because there aren't many reasons to do so. I mean, even I have it as a 10 despite the fact that it isn't in my top 10. It's just that good. |
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| A debate regarding which series deserves the #1 could go on FOREVER. It's just that FMA: B actually fits the bill more than most. Even among the current top 10 on MAL, I think that it's most appropriate that THIS is the #1. |
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| I agree, it is definitely not perfect but no show is. The genre, story and outcome are done well and fits the broader masses. It is very watchable for men and women alike and also finds appeal in a very broad age group. Not my favourite anime, but I find it hard to think what would be a better anime that could also appeal to a very large audience. |
TMUniversal said: I agree, it is definitely not perfect but no show is. The genre, story and outcome are done well and fits the broader masses. It is very watchable for men and women alike and also finds appeal in a very broad age group. Not my favourite anime, but I find it hard to think what would be a better anime that could also appeal to a very large audience. Couldn't agree more. You made some excellent points. ABHISHEKV said: I didn't really get your question...? Could you please elaborate? I was just asking about when you said, "What Brotherhood succeeded in doing was bringing everything round full circle in an impactful, meaningful way". I asked for you to elaborate on that. I mean seriously, do I have to?....because I think it's pretty clear as to what I meant because the series didn't leave much hanging and gave closure to pretty much every aspect that it tread upon. By the time the series ended, it was as fulfilling as it can get. Me elaborating on all that is pretty much the same as writing up a full reaction or review on the series itself. Nate-Senpai said: Yeah , the start is a introduction to the anime, the universe and the characters, but the plot gets thicker and darker. If i were you id just start with the 2011 edition, Ive never seen the original series but from what i read the remake ( 2011) portrays the story a lot better and the animation is better ( since its newer but well yeah). It also continues far past the original version, Hxh has a really good story and likeable characters who you will start caring for. the anime loks a bit happy and somewhat childish at start but it has very dark themes and one of the best ever thought out superpower thingy that ive ever seen. in my memory there are no ass pulls whatsoever Yeah, it just felt very kid-showish from its introduction, and the soundtrack wasn't that notable. I'll prolly move to the 2011 version as you say after giving a few more episodes a go. And I thought I heard it the other way around, that the 2011 version isn't finished and the original is. NOPE. The 2011 version covers everything that is complete in the manga and the ending even offers sufficient closure. Just watching that is enough. TMUniversal said: I agree, it is definitely not perfect but no show is. The genre, story and outcome are done well and fits the broader masses. It is very watchable for men and women alike and also finds appeal in a very broad age group. Not my favourite anime, but I find it hard to think what would be a better anime that could also appeal to a very large audience. The idea of a "perfect show" is theoretically impossible when taking the perspective of a collective. However, a "perfect show" can easily exist in an individual's perspective. In-fact, most people probably have examples for "perfect" visual entertainment. ABSOLUTELY. Fullmetal Alchemist: Brohood does fit well to entertaining different categories of viewers, and that may likely be why it is at the top. However, I usually see Brotherhood rated as an 8/10, so it could just be that more people think it is pretty good, making the rating go up collectively in the process. There are still the lot of tens though. Which isn't a problem in the slightest and is totally understandable. And pretty much this to the whole: ABHISHEKV said: A debate regarding which series deserves the #1 could go on FOREVER. It's just that FMA: B actually fits the bill more than most. Even among the current top 10 on MAL, I think that it's most appropriate that THIS is the #1. Doesn't mean it's not fun to talk about though.[/quote] Of course. |
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| Some are into analyzing stuff it's just that in this particular case, it's a lot of work and I'm lazy as hell. It was meaningful on the whole. FMA: B is not just the story of Ed and Al when you look at how things turned out for the cast as a whole, it makes things all the more compelling don't you think? Hope you like HxH 2011. Got that. For me it is a 10 but still not close to #1 on my list. Man, I wish I had read the manga. Can't answer that question unfortunately. |
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| Sounds about right. |
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