Hachimitsu to Clover II

okay i finished H&C2, half-forced by my friend who says it's incredible.. honestly, i had been holding it off for a while coz i kinda knew it would disappoint me coz the genre seemed so inclined towards romance(not my pref)

Art:
the art design just doesn't appeal to me. my friend says it's the most unique art design and stuff, but it looks hideous, especially when their eyes go O.O the character design isn't too bad in a way.. lots of diversity, but i honestly thought Hagu chan was the prof's daughter in the beginning.. lol.. in fact i thought so until the love square actually developed.. ... and i was like "u gotta be kidding me".. the only character i liked was Yamada. The backgrounds are honestly pretty excellent, but i can recommend so many other animes with mind-blowing backgrounds.

Story:
H&C tries to depict life, but keeps on focusing on the love triangles and squares, in which they try to make you tear up at every scene. it's also ridiculous that there are only 2 main girls(with super complicated relationships), and a ton of guys. I mean, most of u should know how many hotties u can find in the art departments. and yet, 2 students and 1 professor are fighting over a kid. #$%#$@&#$$@!!! the story about Morita was quite fresh, but it wasn't a very prominent plot in the story. i related so much to Kaoru and i liked the way they depicted the forked road. I think H&C wastes too much time depicting the love drama and never really tells u wat happened, their past and their goals. The only plot which was beautifully depicted was Morita and Kaoru's, but it was probably thought of by the author as a side-story or something.. The ending didn't feel much like an ending.. it felt like a cut in the middle.. it also didnt feel like a new beginning, which would have given room for a sequel. it's like, the couplings are decided, so we end the story here. sheesh.. I thought H&C2 would imply a real sequel, but it's the same thing all over again. but after seeing the ending, i understand why it isn't a sequel. there's just no sequel to make.

Character:
Hagu-chan is probably the worst character i've seen in a very very long time.. I just don't understand why a kid has to be the center of the biggest love confusion. what the heck is this anime trying to imply? she doesn't look 18 at all. fine, some girls really have little bodies because of some defections, but it was never mentioned in the anime, and those guys who like her just seem like lolicons and arseholes to me. the other characters are also very boring and i can't relate much to them because they seem like they dont have a past at all..

Enjoyment:
I didn't enjoy this much in part because i knew i would be disappointed, but i've watched animes which i thought at first that it would turn out bad, but actually loving them in the end. TBRH, there's just nothing much to like about H&C. It seems like one of the most overrated anime of all time to me rather than the best anime of all time as some ppl would say. i just dont see how anyone can really love H&C if they have watched other animes with similar genre. it's just not as realistic or romantic as it seems. I would probably only recommend this to ppl who would be satisfied with only great art, and very shallow plots. for example, my friend who loves this anime but can't even finish Higurashi n Monster.

Overall:
I think it's essential to compare it with other romance/slice of life animes to see how H&C doesn't live up to it's ratings. First of all is ef. There's no need to say anything about the art style. it just blows ur mind away. the storyline might seem very fantasy-like compared to H&C, but it's so much more realistic, with lots of side-characters and even a few neutral characters. in addition, the characters are so much more diverse and unique. i also personally like how they depict the monologues in ef. H&C tries to depict it in a romantic way, but it's just too boring and doesn't really show how intense the self-debate is. ef, in contrast depicts exactly how ppl spend so much time in limbo during those stages in life.
then, for the more popular genre, we have toradora. ok, it has a chibi too, but at least she doesn't look like a 10 year old. the art is obviously more popular too, and i haven't seen ppl complaining about the plot yet, just debate about couplings.

Hello there fellow watcher,
( Im am really sorry if ı made a typo or any mistake while writing)

H&C was an amazing anime and it felt much like it completed for storyline but not for character relationships. 1st season's big part was takemoto and ı loved it but this season doesnt have inpact at all and there are just stuff that comes out of no where but lets talk about them part by part.

Music: It is better and you will here musics which are funny in episodes.

Art: I cant really say much about it but it feels same and ı am ... totally ok with it at the end. The main diffrence is scenes and diffrent than few scenes rest is pretty normal. Inumoto is pretty fun though XD.

Story: Here we go ... So after first season we see takemoto needs a job and others are pretty much in really good state and mmorita goes missing time to time. First half is bassiaclly about Yamada and Mayama it was nice to see them get better at their lifes and it was nice that Rika started to accept Mayama and see him as a man but I cant say the same thing about Yamda. I know yamada is the emotional type and she cant forget stuff and move on but like really they just repeat a cycle tahat is in full loop finally near end yamada starts to accept it.

2nd half is abouds lolicons and jobless poor Takemoto. Well Ilove takemoto but after last season he had to be a little bit more relatable and a person that is sure about himself but when hagu is in hospital he is just like his childhood but he doesnt run away he just chooses to not get involved at all. The point is I never saw a persen that falls in love somebody like this. It is the most ridicilous thing I saw like really Hagu stays in hospital and he just goes once. Didn't he fell in love with her? Yes she did so why he is thinking about what he is gonna do in future when he should go and visit her? and dont let me talk about shuu and hagu.

Hagu got a little bit improvment and she has problems to overcome but does she ? Well we never see anything so yea ıdk. Yes she talks about stuff and it is pretty much nothing because nothing changes and we continue with something else and it doesnt really matter for anyone since she doesnt talk to anyone about this people just let's her be at the end. For shuu .... agh.... it is pretty much out of no where and I should have see it coming from part doctor saying "She went with her father" and anime is like " Ok ı cant ship them and you can't do anything at all." This is worst thing in the anime. They introduced shuu as Hagu's protective father figure and at last minute he turned into hagu's lover and we didn't know this since all the time anime showed him as a father figure. I dont really know what to say diffrent than it was horrible.

Shinobu and kaoru was fun until a point but it was really forced and it just happend ı guess. Shinobu just revealed his true characteristic finally and he is just a gut which is empty like ıdk what to say he is your depressed guy at the end he wants people fall with him and he fall to be a dissapointment. Wow dude! Everyones turned into worst characters this season yamada was a little fun at least and they even ruined the first character we see which is takemoto I dont know what to say

Overall I had a really big hope for this 2nd season and I know eveythin gdoesnt have to turn out wel.... wait we had a good ending right ? so where is the good neding that we are sadisfied and we dont look back .... Ogh, I see this is the problem. I loved first season and was really exited but apparently it choosed to become sth bad sadly.. I just ruined it self but first season will be in my heart forever and it will be a classic for me...

Story: 6/10
Art: 8/10
Sound: 6/10
Characters: 3/10
Enjoyment: 5/10

Overall: 5/10

Season 2, I actually dropped it midway of the series 10 years ago and completely forgot about it.

Decided to rewatch Season 1 and then Season 2.

I actually enjoyed season 1 more than Season 2.

Season 2's pace was draggy for my taste after the conclusion of 2 characters which was exactly midway of the series.

Making me remember the reason why I actually dropped it years ago. The joy from Season 1 was practically lowered since it went to a serious tone for story.

one back story is practically too unnecessary for me which pulled down one character's charm of the whole series included season 1. ...

Ending wise I was actually disappointed. In fact i prefer the conclusion from yamada.

Artwork
Artwork wise has some improvements from season 1 nothing to more to say about it. just that the expression and tones were better in Season 2.


Music
The series is known for placement of the special songs to make it look like those typical J-drama but season 2 the song placement wasn't as good as season 1. this was because the story was dragged down along with it.

HIII BARBIE HERE >.<!!!!
Another review by me into the perspective of a woman.
YES i loved the soundtrack theme in general, the photography, the patrons and the following of the story, the great director and creative dude who helped in princess tutu and evangelion and my fave karekano did that labor, the talented and incredible CHIKA UMINO, did this well put it.
My trouble is something more social focused, I liked the characters but my female girls DESERVED better, idk why the fascination of women in asia writing about man, what she did with morita and takemoto she could do it with hagu or ayama, but she ... did'nt and this is something why it's lack for me, I couldn't connect with the men protagonists, they were so boring to me, I wanted more of hagu, rika, and ayama, even miwako, I understand that if you do a manga or anime focused on women is not well received in japan, but how are all this men writing about magical girls, even producing this type of anime?, idk weird. I wished chika developed more of the women, bc they deserved a well story telling, for example NANA is an amazing example of integrating men into the work but nothing revolves about them. I was excited at first bc I was curious just bc of hagu and it really took me a while to finished it, yes the philosophy is great, and has another elements, but it flopped tbh.