I honestly have no idea. I would presume they would be, but because they’re no longer the focal points in the story, they weren’t needed in the final episode.
I can’t say that with 100% certainty though either. I probably watched these OVAs around eight years ago and I’ve watched hundreds of anime since, so I can’t recall every facet. Your inquiry into it has piqued my interest in watching it again to see what I missed or what I may have misconstrued from when I originally watched it. It’s just tough when you’ve got a bunch of other anime on your PTW list. Then again, I don’t think it would be too difficult to find a time to grind out three episodes.
If I get a chance to watch it again and there’s something in it I missed that changes my perspective, I’ll be sure to let you know. For now, what I provided you in my previous response was my best recollection and comprehension from when I first saw it eight years ago. I’ll be honest, I really didn’t know a whole lot about the origins of the story. The main reason I watched it was because I saw some people involved with the production had done quite a bit of work with Key Studio, and considering they’ve laid the groundwork for some of my favorite anime, I wondered what their foray into hentai would look like (which is sort of a stupid thought considering what Key’s studio actually produces).
If I had to throw my theory in the mix, I think Mizuka’s arc is slightly more nuanced. I believe the two of them share a far deeper bond which allowed for her to remember him and for him to stay/return.
I don’t think Misaki and Akane’s connections to Kouhei were necessarily out of love. I think their connections to him were more an emotional reaction to terrible circumstances. The reason I think that actually has more to do with the human psychology of sex. Have you ever noticed that some people will have sex for the strangest reasons? I think in their cases, it was more of a coping mechanism than actual love for Kouhei, whereas Mizuka (in my honest opinion) has a genuine love for Kouhei and that’s what keeps him “grounded,” you could say. I’m not trying to portray Misaki and Akane as being cold-hearted bitches that were just using Kouhei...I think it’s just one of those things where they had an emotional and physical reason to something that was plaguing each of them and Kouhei just so happened to be the closest male companion each of them had to enact their lustful desires to vent out their frustrations.
Like I said, I’m not trying to make them out as bad people because I’ve had first hand experience with this sort of thing. I used to know a woman who was going through a really hard time and in the process of consoling her, she came on to me really strongly. I actually had to force her off of me because I was not attracted to her in any way, I was just trying to console a friend, but she had went through such a hard time that she misconstrued the whole situation and didn’t realize what she was doing. Once she calmed down, she understood that she did something unorthodox and she didn’t even know why she reacted that way. I think Misaki and Akane had a similar reaction and since their acts of sex were more or less coping mechanisms, I don’t think their connections to Kouhei were strong enough to remember him.
At least, that’s what I garnered from it. It’s been a long time since I’ve seen it so I don’t remember all of the details that vividly, but at the time I watched it, that’s what I thought happened and nothing has really come away to sway my thoughts one way or the other.
Yeah, I'm not the huge fan of the final arc either... It was too sad to my liking ;( Why would they make it the true ending, I have no idea. If anything, it should be a bad end or something - especially when you compare it to actual bad end. It might not have been perfect, but hey, at least EVERYONE LIVED, I'm sure both Tomoyo and Tomoya would be fine with it, if they knew lol.
But if you ask me whether Tomoya died in original version - yeah, I'm quite convinced of it, sadly. I played both versions, and it's more than just suggested that he survived the operation, but died soon after that T^T And that's when Tomoyo started helping others through the Internet, and later they were joined together again when she died out of old age... Sure, great ending, "wonderful life" indeed ;(
Yeah, true. The Elfen Lied anime adaptation did deviate from the manga towards the end, and had a different ending. I personally think that the manga did better to flesh out the characters, while also having better pacing compared to the anime. The ending of the manga was also better, with the exception of one deux ex machina which, in my opinion, made no sense and should not have happened. I don't recall the specifics, but I do remember the general ending to Elfen Lied. I had a pretty good opinion on the series as a whole, and definitely prefer it over Variante.
I agree with your thoughts on Variante, by the way. It should have been a bit longer to explain its plot points better. I was intrigued by the plot more than I was invested in the characters, so it was quite disappointing to see the story rush towards its conclusion.
Hi there, rick1-2. I'd like to discuss about Variante with you, but unfortunately my memory of that manga is pretty much non-existent at this point, as it's been many years since I finished reading it. I honestly can't even remember what happened at the end, other than that it had a bittersweet ending. And, I didn't really enjoy it that much, to be honest. You might want to check out Elfen Lied and Deadman Wonderland, if you enjoyed Variante to a degree.
Hey there! Sorry for a few-days late reply.
Anyway, I sure have, although I played Rewrite when fan-translation first came out, a few years ago, so I'm not waiting for Steam relase that impatiently right now. I'm not sure where I should reply on your Tomoyo After comment, here or in TA thread, but I'll mention that - I played TA, but I still haven't read the manga version, so I'm not sure what you wanted to chat about. If it's about visual novel - loved it, it was such a great story - although I honestly can't stand the ending ;(
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I can’t say that with 100% certainty though either. I probably watched these OVAs around eight years ago and I’ve watched hundreds of anime since, so I can’t recall every facet. Your inquiry into it has piqued my interest in watching it again to see what I missed or what I may have misconstrued from when I originally watched it. It’s just tough when you’ve got a bunch of other anime on your PTW list. Then again, I don’t think it would be too difficult to find a time to grind out three episodes.
If I get a chance to watch it again and there’s something in it I missed that changes my perspective, I’ll be sure to let you know. For now, what I provided you in my previous response was my best recollection and comprehension from when I first saw it eight years ago. I’ll be honest, I really didn’t know a whole lot about the origins of the story. The main reason I watched it was because I saw some people involved with the production had done quite a bit of work with Key Studio, and considering they’ve laid the groundwork for some of my favorite anime, I wondered what their foray into hentai would look like (which is sort of a stupid thought considering what Key’s studio actually produces).
If I had to throw my theory in the mix, I think Mizuka’s arc is slightly more nuanced. I believe the two of them share a far deeper bond which allowed for her to remember him and for him to stay/return.
I don’t think Misaki and Akane’s connections to Kouhei were necessarily out of love. I think their connections to him were more an emotional reaction to terrible circumstances. The reason I think that actually has more to do with the human psychology of sex. Have you ever noticed that some people will have sex for the strangest reasons? I think in their cases, it was more of a coping mechanism than actual love for Kouhei, whereas Mizuka (in my honest opinion) has a genuine love for Kouhei and that’s what keeps him “grounded,” you could say. I’m not trying to portray Misaki and Akane as being cold-hearted bitches that were just using Kouhei...I think it’s just one of those things where they had an emotional and physical reason to something that was plaguing each of them and Kouhei just so happened to be the closest male companion each of them had to enact their lustful desires to vent out their frustrations.
Like I said, I’m not trying to make them out as bad people because I’ve had first hand experience with this sort of thing. I used to know a woman who was going through a really hard time and in the process of consoling her, she came on to me really strongly. I actually had to force her off of me because I was not attracted to her in any way, I was just trying to console a friend, but she had went through such a hard time that she misconstrued the whole situation and didn’t realize what she was doing. Once she calmed down, she understood that she did something unorthodox and she didn’t even know why she reacted that way. I think Misaki and Akane had a similar reaction and since their acts of sex were more or less coping mechanisms, I don’t think their connections to Kouhei were strong enough to remember him.
At least, that’s what I garnered from it. It’s been a long time since I’ve seen it so I don’t remember all of the details that vividly, but at the time I watched it, that’s what I thought happened and nothing has really come away to sway my thoughts one way or the other.
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But if you ask me whether Tomoya died in original version - yeah, I'm quite convinced of it, sadly. I played both versions, and it's more than just suggested that he survived the operation, but died soon after that T^T And that's when Tomoyo started helping others through the Internet, and later they were joined together again when she died out of old age... Sure, great ending, "wonderful life" indeed ;(
I agree with your thoughts on Variante, by the way. It should have been a bit longer to explain its plot points better. I was intrigued by the plot more than I was invested in the characters, so it was quite disappointing to see the story rush towards its conclusion.
Anyway, I sure have, although I played Rewrite when fan-translation first came out, a few years ago, so I'm not waiting for Steam relase that impatiently right now. I'm not sure where I should reply on your Tomoyo After comment, here or in TA thread, but I'll mention that - I played TA, but I still haven't read the manga version, so I'm not sure what you wanted to chat about. If it's about visual novel - loved it, it was such a great story - although I honestly can't stand the ending ;(