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Madcat6204 said: So which is that?They are street tugs came here for some fun?Or a group of villains made a plan good enough to kill strongest guy on earth?Quirkiness101 said: So have a crackpot theory, please tell me if this gets disproven in the manga. Etc. etc. It gets disproven in the manga. LoneWizard said: I am not a tactical genius Neither are they. That's why they act the way they do. These are street-thugs. Random punks and low-level criminals rounded up by the villain alliance to give them some mass of numbers to throw at everyone when they launch this attack. None of them know how to work together, none of them are very good at what they do, only a couple people in the entire attacking force of villains are what could be called "professional villains." The water villains acted like amateurs because they are. If first is true,a street thug wouldnt be cautious of a high schooler and charge in mindlessly... If latter is true, they have a REALLY bad plan...I mean REALLY... Either way they are more stupid than any random Slash-em-all character you kill over thousands of times... |
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Rio_Pascua said: Why did Deku said "Do it like Kacchan!" Before he made the smash? LOL nice tactic from Deku. I really wonder how All might and Deku decide on the name of the smash...why is a flick Delaware or Texas a full blown punch? Can any Americans explain to me if this have any subtle meaning to you guys? Is it the land size or else? Anyway, really nice animation on the action scenes this episode. Love the tension and how the kids cope up, you can really feel they are the future heroes in training. 😍😍 you can google it. its quite easy. I'm not American, and had same question before. this is Delaware, a SMALL state https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Delaware_in_United_States_(zoom).svg/2000px-Delaware_in_United_States_(zoom).svg.png This is texas. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ad/Texas_in_United_States.svg/2000px-Texas_in_United_States.svg.png |
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LoneWizard said: ttcchen said: I am not a tactical genius but even i know that not giving enemy a chance to come up with a plan takes priority over being cautious.....they are being cautious. because those villains have an advantage in the water. plus they don't know the students' quirks. so they want the students to attack first, so they get an idea of what their quirks are, so they can counter that. that's why when deku acted like kacchan by charging heads on, the villains were smirking. Villains' biggest advantage is the fact that its a surprise attack,when you make a surprise attack it means you have a plan while enemy doesnt,which gives you the upper hand...If your plan is seperating enemy AND WAITING,DOING NOTHING until they come up with a plan of their own,im sorry but that plan is plain bad... from what i've seen, their plan is separating them and overwhelm them with sheer numbers. their plan to fight the kids will change accordingly to their quirks. and the villains who attacked deku's group all have water-related quirks. so they can't go on the boat. so their only way is to fight the students in the water. they can do it two ways. 1. break the boat and cause them to fall in the water. or 2. wait for the kids to make a move first so they can find out about their quirks, then they repeat 1. unfortunately, the kids didn't make a move, so the villains were forced to go with 1. and because they didn't know the kids' quirks, they are unable to come up with a counterattack in time and so they lost. your logic is correct that surprise attacks should be SURPRISE. but if the villains just charge head on without knowing their opponents' quirks, then they're acting unprepared like shounen mcs and people will call them stupid. |
ttcchen said: This is exactly what i am saying...They SHOULD've destroyed the boat right away before their opponents came up with some sort of strategy and they have the upper hand in water...1. break the boat and cause them to fall in the water. Destroying the boat right away doesnt have any disadvantage to villains...And this is such a simple thing that even stupidest thug would've been able to think so... We are saying %100 same thing..... |
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LoneWizard said: perhaps we're not thinking along the same line. if im them, i'd find out about the kids' quirks first, then attack them. plus, i see children, especially wanna-be heroes, as hotheaded brats like naruto who would take any chance to show their strength (cough cough bakugou and the steel guy who attacked the shadow villain without a plan).ttcchen said: This is exactly what i am saying...They SHOULD've destroyed the boat right away before their opponents came up with some sort of strategy and they have the upper hand in water...1. break the boat and cause them to fall in the water. Destroying the boat right away doesnt have any disadvantage to villains...And this is such a simple thing that even stupidest thug would've been able to think so... We are saying %100 same thing..... |
Yup best girl for sure. LoL Grape-kun is jokes, what kind of quirk is that. How did he even get accepted lol. But seriously how did this shoe not immediately get green-lit for at least 26 episodes. 13 isn't enough at all. I best see a season 2 (and 3 and 4) Aizawa is awesome and Deku continues to impress me. |
Bobby2Hands said: LoL Grape-kun is jokes, what kind of quirk is that. How did he even get accepted lol. The mangaka addressed that issue in an extra page in volume 2. Basically, he used his Quirk to immobilize the robots by sticking them to the ground, or plugging up their muzzles, etc. The problem though is that it in a real fight, the opponent would be able to read his attacks easily. |
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ttcchen said: Not saying they should attack children without learning their quirks,i am saying they should attack the boat before learning children's quirks....because no mater what,their enemies being inside water instead of ON water would be advantegous for a water specialised villain team...LoneWizard said: perhaps we're not thinking along the same line. if im them, i'd find out about the kids' quirks first, then attack them. plus, i see children, especially wanna-be heroes, as hotheaded brats like naruto who would take any chance to show their strength (cough cough bakugou and the steel guy who attacked the shadow villain without a plan).This is exactly what i am saying...They SHOULD've destroyed the boat right away before their opponents came up with some sort of strategy and they have the upper hand in water... Destroying the boat right away doesnt have any disadvantage to villains...And this is such a simple thing that even stupidest thug would've been able to think so... We are saying %100 same thing..... Nakurawari said: He would be an amazing sidekick tho...The mangaka addressed that issue in an extra page in volume 2. Basically, he used his Quirk to immobilize the robots by sticking them to the ground, or plugging up their muzzles, etc. The problem though is that it in a real fight, the opponent would be able to read his attacks easily. |
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LoneWizard said: ttcchen said: I am not a tactical genius but even i know that not giving enemy a chance to come up with a plan takes priority over being cautious.....they are being cautious. because those villains have an advantage in the water. plus they don't know the students' quirks. so they want the students to attack first, so they get an idea of what their quirks are, so they can counter that. that's why when deku acted like kacchan by charging heads on, the villains were smirking. Villains' biggest advantage is the fact that its a surprise attack,when you make a surprise attack it means you have a plan while enemy doesnt,which gives you the upper hand...If your plan is seperating enemy AND WAITING,DOING NOTHING until they come up with a plan of their own,im sorry but that plan is plain bad... Honestly, I find it as much a waste of time to think about this as it is to think about why having conversations while falling down buildings can even occur. Trying to apply logic to some things isn't worth the time, it's what suspension of disbelief is for. Either way, they're just random mooks picked up off the street for this operation. It should be evident that they're just randoms by how easily Aizawa can take on like 50 people at once. |
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| For anyone wondering about how Mineta passed the entrance exam, Horikoshi explains it: http://a.mhcdn.net/store/manga/15366/018.5/compressed/qimg008.jpg?v=1424806022 Nice episode. Tsuyu, Mineta and Midoriya combining together to make a pretty good team. That Delaware smash :D Grape boy, best boy. Expecting chapters 16-17 next week, so there should be a lot more action next time (since there are many out there that prefer action than "boring" dialogue) |
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LoneWizard said: ttcchen said: Not saying they should attack children without learning their quirks,i am saying they should attack the boat before learning children's quirks....because no mater what,their enemies being inside water instead of ON water would be advantegous for a water specialised villain team...perhaps we're not thinking along the same line. if im them, i'd find out about the kids' quirks first, then attack them. plus, i see children, especially wanna-be heroes, as hotheaded brats like naruto who would take any chance to show their strength (cough cough bakugou and the steel guy who attacked the shadow villain without a plan). and what if one of the kids has an electricity quirk? all of them would be toasted. |
ttcchen said: He would still use his electric quirk anyways,jsut that he wouldnt have time to come up with an effective way to use his electric quirk...LoneWizard said: Not saying they should attack children without learning their quirks,i am saying they should attack the boat before learning children's quirks....because no mater what,their enemies being inside water instead of ON water would be advantegous for a water specialised villain team... and what if one of the kids has an electricity quirk? all of them would be toasted. |
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Comander-07 said: wow only 3 episodes left - man I will miss this! many interesting characters, nice soundtrack, nice fights. Im hyped for next episode. SO TRUE! this needs more episodes!!! Seeing Aizawa's potential Tsu saving deku (this girl is great i have to admit!) Shouto being OP again Mineta's perverted mind Deku using his brain Deku and Mineta's power combo All in all I have no complains! this episode is good! but I still don't know how they'll end this series, we need 2nd season! |
LoneWizard said: oh well. im tired of this. can we just stop?He would still use his electric quirk anyways,jsut that he wouldnt have time to come up with an effective way to use his electric quirk... |
ttcchen said: I never wanted to break down a shounen cliche to its details in the first place...I simply said "shounen logic" then you decided to prove it was not shounen logic...LoneWizard said: oh well. im tired of this. can we just stop?He would still use his electric quirk anyways,jsut that he wouldnt have time to come up with an effective way to use his electric quirk... so...ok...works for me ;) |
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| I finally understand Tsuyu's hype. Best grill right there, that's for sure. This show has really picked up in the last few episodes. Too bad it's ending soon, but hopefully there's another season not too long in the future. |
| That was a great episode, loved the action as well. |
| Mineta is hilarious! He totally stole the show. |
| Oh gaaaaawd that episode went by so fast. It was amazing to watch. Loved the OST this episode too. Everything's so goooooooooooooooood |
| Nice hype at the end. Feels like the real stuff is just getting started and the show is almost over :x Hope don't have to wait long for a second season.. |
| Tsuyu is definitely the best girl. She's really strong, works well with Deku, and I loved how she just spoke whatever was on her mind last episode. It was awesome to see Deku strategize! And it was funny when he told himself to be like Kacchan when he did his Delaware Smash. And Mineta was able to actually be helpful despite obviously being the comedic pervert. It's really sad this isn't long-running. 3 more episodes just doesn't seem like enough! |
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| Just recently started reading the manga, and really my only gripe about this episode is that I thought Mineta was done better in the manga for the whole end part. there was a lot of comedy there that I felt was lost a little bit in the anime. Either way, still great episode! Enjoyed it a lot! |
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| Tsuyu-chan got more screen times, Mineta was quite hilarious especially with "secrete" XD That Punk Hazard dude was really cocky, just because he's too OP with half fire & ice quirk. Didn't like him but kinda like Bakugou more now that he's teaming up with the red hair dude (forget his name). Btw Midoriya ffs can you stop with your scared crybaby expression already..!?? The show's almost over and you still show that kind of face every episode ╮(¬_¬)╭ |
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| league of villains.. and they are all getting beaten by kids with undeveloped quirks lmao and that purple kid has to be one of the most annoying character in anime history, |
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SerB3128 said: Just recently started reading the manga, and really my only gripe about this episode is that I thought Mineta was done better in the manga for the whole end part. there was a lot of comedy there that I felt was lost a little bit in the anime. Really? I got the opposite effect, seeing all his screaming and crying and freaking out throwing his sticky balls animated made it funnier for me. Plus his VA is on point. |
Sourire said: league of villains.. and they are all getting beaten by kids with undeveloped quirks lmao and that purple kid has to be one of the most annoying character in anime history, I wouldn't say they're underdeveloped, just inexperienced. I mean when you look at Tsuyu, Bakugou, class rep, or that ice guy their quirks are definitely not underdeveloped. So far only Izuku who can't really control his quirk and that Mineta guy who doesn't know what to do with his quirk. The rest seems pretty in control. |
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| That little kid Mineta is such a fucking pervert but I fucking love him. "For a frog girl, you have big tits." "SECRETE!!!" LOL I'm guessing Deku's going to reserve the rest of his fingers or arm for another move or two. |
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LoneWizard said: He would still use his electric quirk anyways,jsut that he wouldnt have time to come up with an effective way to use his electric quirk... Isn't that more of an assumption on your part? We don't know whether a person with an electric quick would have or wouldn't have enough time to come up with an effective way to use his electric quirk. For all we know, that person could be great and effective in working in a short amount of time. For example, there's Todoroki, the one with the ice and fire quirk. He's very quick thinking and pretty powerful. In a situation such as the one Deku found himself in, the moment the boat was destroyed, he could have frozen the water in a split second. Stopping his enemies on their tracks. Then, attacking the boat on the enemies part wouldn't have been a smart idea after all, right? Then, giving themselves the time to first observe the students in the slight possibility of finding out whether there is or isn't someone with a strong quirk on the boat, could have given them a better chance of counter attacking, right? |
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Starisametaphor said: Look...i dont understand why we keep talking about same thing...There is NO demerit to luring the enemy into your territory,in this case their strongest territory IS WATER...Right?Thats why they throw them to water section right?LoneWizard said: He would still use his electric quirk anyways,jsut that he wouldnt have time to come up with an effective way to use his electric quirk... Isn't that more of an assumption on your part? We don't know whether a person with an electric quick would have or wouldn't have enough time to come up with an effective way to use his electric quirk. For all we know, that person could be great and effective in working in a short amount of time. For example, there's Todoroki, the one with the ice and fire quirk. He's very quick thinking and pretty powerful. In a situation such as the one Deku found himself in, the moment the boat was destroyed, he could have frozen the water in a split second. Stopping his enemies on their tracks. Then, attacking the boat on the enemies part wouldn't have been a smart idea after all, right? Then, giving themselves the time to first observe the students in the slight possibility of finding out whether there is or isn't someone with a strong quirk on the boat, could have given them a better chance of counter attacking, right? Then can you tell me how on earth throwing enemy INSIDE water where you can OBSERVE them better while they cant speak or think properly is a bad idea... Even Todoroki,in your example would come up with a better plan in time,because this is not a 1v1 fight,there are 3 students so even if one of them is a genius if you strike fast they will not be able to counterattack as a team...If you do not give them time to chitchat and think that is... |
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| The action this episode was pretty good. Aizawa is awesome. The ending part with Deku, Tsuyu, and Mineta was both funny & cool. And Todoroki is getting more screen time, which is great. Gah, I'm excited to see the next 3 episodes, but I'm also sad there's only 3 more episodes left. Hopefully there will be a 2nd season, & we don't have to wait too long for it to come out (though I'll probably start reading the manga before then). |
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LoneWizard said: Starisametaphor said: Look...i dont understand why we keep talking about same thing...There is NO demerit to luring the enemy into your territory,in this case their strongest territory IS WATER...Right?Thats why they throw them to water section right?Isn't that more of an assumption on your part? We don't know whether a person with an electric quick would have or wouldn't have enough time to come up with an effective way to use his electric quirk. For all we know, that person could be great and effective in working in a short amount of time. For example, there's Todoroki, the one with the ice and fire quirk. He's very quick thinking and pretty powerful. In a situation such as the one Deku found himself in, the moment the boat was destroyed, he could have frozen the water in a split second. Stopping his enemies on their tracks. Then, attacking the boat on the enemies part wouldn't have been a smart idea after all, right? Then, giving themselves the time to first observe the students in the slight possibility of finding out whether there is or isn't someone with a strong quirk on the boat, could have given them a better chance of counter attacking, right? Then can you tell me how on earth throwing enemy INSIDE water where you can OBSERVE them better while they cant speak or think properly is a bad idea... Even Todoroki,in your example would come up with a better plan in time,because this is not a 1v1 fight,there are 3 students so even if one of them is a genius if you strike fast they will not be able to counterattack as a team...If you do not give them time to chitchat and think that is... So you wouldn't think Todoroki who gets thrown in the water, freezes it including their limbs--which restricts their movements--is a demerit? |
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Starisametaphor said: YES...Because they broke the ship anyways...they just gave enemy time to think...They didnt learn about their quirks,they didnt gain anything they just simply broke the ship few minutes later without no reason...If Todoroki has ability to freeze water he will still freeze it,but he will have a better plan with his team...LoneWizard said: Look...i dont understand why we keep talking about same thing...There is NO demerit to luring the enemy into your territory,in this case their strongest territory IS WATER...Right?Thats why they throw them to water section right? Then can you tell me how on earth throwing enemy INSIDE water where you can OBSERVE them better while they cant speak or think properly is a bad idea... Even Todoroki,in your example would come up with a better plan in time,because this is not a 1v1 fight,there are 3 students so even if one of them is a genius if you strike fast they will not be able to counterattack as a team...If you do not give them time to chitchat and think that is... So you wouldn't think Todoroki who gets thrown in the water, freezes it including their limbs--which restricts their movements--is a demerit? I cant believe i am having an argument with someone thinking these simple shounen villains are not stupid... |
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LoneWizard said: Starisametaphor said: YES...Because they broke the ship anyways...they just gave enemy time to think...They didnt learn about their quirks,they didnt gain anything they just simply broke the ship few minutes later without no reason...If Todoroki has ability to freeze water he will still freeze it,but he will have a better plan with his team...So you wouldn't think Todoroki who gets thrown in the water, freezes it including their limbs--which restricts their movements--is a demerit? I cant believe i am having an argument with someone thinking these simple shounen villains are not stupid... They attacked when they found out their observation bore no fruit, but they wouldn't have known if they hadn't observed first. Deciding to first attack and not observe first already seals their fate--the same cannot be said by choosing observation first. You're talking about the outcome, disregarding the process that lead to it. Had they attacked without observing and was someone like Todoroki on board, their loss was guarenteed. Had they taking the option of observing, possibly finding out Todoroki's quirk, they could have planned against it; a few of them distracting Todoroki while the others made their escape to a place they could fight properly, for example. There are several of imaginable ways to fight against Todoroki's quirk, had they have gotten the chance to find out his abilities. They wouldn't know whether they do or do not have a shot at winning, if they don't observe their enemies first. Who even jumps straight into danger without knowing what they're going against; are you asking to get killed? It's weighing two unfavorable possibilities and choosing the one that could bear the most success (keyword ''could''). I can't believe you have trouble understanding why a person would first observe instead of jumping in the unknown, and why choosing the latter FIRST is the most unfavorable of the two. |
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| @Starisametaphor look... -Observing someone until they reveal their capacities IS a plan and i can understand -Rushing to attack them like a mad man IS a plan even if it is a reckless one,i can understand this too >Waiting few minutes and THEN attacking WITHOUT gaining anything is NOT a plan,it is not logical,and stupid even for a brainless street thug... I never said they should attack and get killed,i am saying destroying boat EARLIER has no demerit,but lots of merits...They should have attacked the boat,not the students...BECAUSE NO MATTER WHAT KIND OF QUIRK STUDENTS HAVE,VILLAINS ARE MORE POWERFUL IN THE WATER...THAT IS A FACT... Just picture a pokemon battle...In a water arena, a water pokemon is against a mysterious pokemon...You dont know what other pokemon has...Would having that mysterious pokemon inside the water have any demerits?If that pokemon is an electric pokemon you will be dead anyway,if not you will increase your chance by 10 times because you are a frickin Magikarp... |
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LoneWizard said: @Starisametaphor look... -Observing someone until they reveal their capacities IS a plan and i can understand -Rushing to attack them like a mad man IS a plan even if it is a reckless one,i can understand this too >Waiting few minutes and THEN attacking WITHOUT gaining anything is NOT a plan,it is not logical,and stupid even for a brainless street thug... I never said they should attack and get killed,i am saying destroying boat EARLIER has no demerit,but lots of merits...They should have attacked the boat,not the students...BECAUSE NO MATTER WHAT KIND OF QUIRK STUDENTS HAVE,VILLAINS ARE MORE POWERFUL IN THE WATER...THAT IS A FACT... It's because their observation bore no fruit, that's why they attacked. Observation was their plan and it didn't work, so they chose the plan with the most risk (plan b, attacking the boat) because there was no other option. Plan 'a' had failed. And the latter of your statement is no fact at all. There are quirks out there that are more powerful when in contact with water, as I have said several of times. Electricity would have knocked them out. Ice would have frozen them and restricted their movements. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. |
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LoneWizard said: @Starisametaphor Just picture a pokemon battle...In a water arena, a water pokemon is against a mysterious pokemon...You dont know what other pokemon has...Would having that mysterious pokemon inside the water have any demerits?If that pokemon is an electric pokemon you will be dead anyway,if not you will increase your chance by 10 times because you are a frickin Magikarp... It's exactly because you don't know what that mysterious pokemon is capable of that throwing him in the water could have its demerits, if that pokemon has an ability that is stronger than water. And it's because you don't know what they can do, that you observe them and increase your chance of finding out what they could and counter attacking. Only when that plan fails to bear fruit, then you attack, but only after. You don't attack first until you know that 'plan a' didn't work. |
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Starisametaphor said: I am frickin done...I pointed out countless times in this thread that they did not prevent children from touching water,they only made them touch the water after they made a plan...And the latter of your statement is no fact at all. There are quirks out there that are more powerful when in contact with water, as I have said several of times. Electricity would have knocked them out. Ice would have frozen them and restricted their movements. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. It's because their observation bore no fruit, that's why they attacked. Observation was their plan and it didn't work, so they chose the plan with the most risk (plan b, attacking the boat) because there was no other option. Plan 'a' had failed. This is exactly what i am saying,they screwed up big time...You cant change a plan after you made your mind...They screwed,they fckd up big tme,they made a stupid decision,they lost....WHICH IS LITERALLY THE ONLY THING I AM SAYING...They should have stick with a plan till the end...They didnt thus they frickin lost...Changing plans midway OBVIOUSLY didnt work...Did you watch the episode?ノಠل͟ಠ༽ノ-︵-┻━┻ im so done with this shit l....('_') I...('_') l..('_') l.('_') l('_') l'_') l_') l') l) l |
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LoneWizard said: Starisametaphor said: I am frickin done...I pointed out countless times in this thread that they did not prevent children from touching water,they only made them touch the water after they made a plan...And the latter of your statement is no fact at all. There are quirks out there that are more powerful when in contact with water, as I have said several of times. Electricity would have knocked them out. Ice would have frozen them and restricted their movements. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. Who gives a shit whether they weren't prevented from touching the water or how they were made to? It's about the possibility that there could have been students with quirks on the boat that could still wreck the villians by being thrown into the water, as you have said so many times. Even if water is the villians territory, it doesn't mean it doesn't have any weakness; electricity and ice being a few of them. It doesn't mean they wouldn't still get their asses handed to them. This is exactly what i am saying,they screwed up big time...You cant change a plan after you made your mind...They screwed,they fckd up big tme,they made a stupid decision,they lost....WHICH IS LITERALLY THE ONLY THING I AM SAYING...They should have stick with a plan till the end...They didnt thus they frickin lost...Changing plans midway OBVIOUSLY didnt work...Did you watch the episode? Of course you can change a damned plan if you find out it's not bearing any fruit. They're running with a time limit and they're aiming for success. Did you watch the episode? It wasn't the change of plan that didn't work; it's Deku's tactics that became their downfall. |
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Ryuutobi said: Starisametaphor said: So you wouldn't think Todoroki who gets thrown in the water, freezes it including their limbs would not freeze his allies as well in the process?So you wouldn't think Todoroki who gets thrown in the water, freezes it including their limbs--which restricts their movements--is a demerit? With enough time to plan, he should be able to defeat the villains without harming his allies. Someone has forgotten he also has his fire quirk... Or the episode in which Todoroki has already proven that he is capable of freezing people and thawing it without hurting them (thought it were only their legs), during that lesson with All Might as their teacher for example. |
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Starisametaphor said: LoneWizard said: I am frickin done...I pointed out countless times in this thread that they did not prevent children from touching water,they only made them touch the water after they made a plan... Who gives a shit whether they weren't prevented from touching the water or how they were made to? It's about the possibility that there could have been students with quirks on the boat that could still wreck the villians by being thrown into the water, as you have said so many times. Even if water is the villians territory, it doesn't mean it doesn't have any weakness; electricity and ice being a few of them. It doesn't mean they wouldn't still get their asses handed to them. This is exactly what i am saying,they screwed up big time...You cant change a plan after you made your mind...They screwed,they fckd up big tme,they made a stupid decision,they lost....WHICH IS LITERALLY THE ONLY THING I AM SAYING...They should have stick with a plan till the end...They didnt thus they frickin lost...Changing plans midway OBVIOUSLY didnt work...Did you watch the episode? Of course you can change a damned plan if you find out it's not bearing any fruit. They're running with a time limit and they're aiming for success. Did you watch the episode? It wasn't the change of plan that didn't work; it's Deku's tactics that became their downfall. in shounen every villains have a cease fire while MC is thinking of a plan to defeat them. Once the MC is done they attack which obviously fail bcuz they let the MC think of a plan. It is not always thinking up of plans though sometimes there will be flashbacks. Basically shounen fights are shit and thinking is a free action. |
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ernst said: Starisametaphor said: Who gives a shit whether they weren't prevented from touching the water or how they were made to? It's about the possibility that there could have been students with quirks on the boat that could still wreck the villians by being thrown into the water, as you have said so many times. Even if water is the villians territory, it doesn't mean it doesn't have any weakness; electricity and ice being a few of them. It doesn't mean they wouldn't still get their asses handed to them. Of course you can change a damned plan if you find out it's not bearing any fruit. They're running with a time limit and they're aiming for success. Did you watch the episode? It wasn't the change of plan that didn't work; it's Deku's tactics that became their downfall. in shounen every villains have a cease fire while MC is thinking of a plan to defeat them. Once the MC is done they attack which obviously fail bcuz they let the MC think of a plan. It is not always thinking up of plans though sometimes there will be flashbacks. Basically shounen fights are shit and thinking is a free action. Sure, a lot of shounen fights have this concept, but in regards to this particular fight that happened, there was an actual reason for their hesitance. Logically speaking, people don't jump in the unknown--so to speak--without trying to find out what they're dealing with. It's a sure way to get yourself killed. |
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CC9ers said: I really don't get why this is doing so bad in Japan. It's easily in my top 3 this season alongside Re:Zero and Jojo. Epic soundtrack as usual, well-animated action, likeable characters, a true BONES color palette, great voice acting... Hopefully it does well enough to earn a second season at the very least. MHA has some shonen clichés BUT Deku is "not" as "cool" as your regular well-loved MC by the Nip audience. Maybe that's a reason. Maybe people see know why Tsuyu is best girl. She's just so likeable all-around, and Aoi Yuuki is absolutely killing it as her VA to make her character even better. Lol @ Mineta also. "For a frog, you have surprisingly large boobs". Tsuyu is best gril. And will always be. Hopefully she'll win the Midoriya bowl. BUT how about giving some love to this Punk rock DFC? |
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