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| I don't know why people said this episode is confusing. This is the easiest episode to comprehend for me in the last 8 eps because it's just the retrospect of 4 MCs. The only thing new is the concept of the Instrumentality. I'd say it's rather unnecessary than bad. So many unanswered questions and we only have 1 ep left. I wonder how they could end this. |
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| @Mattinator95 To summarize the main characters "problems" at the dawn of the Instrumentality. (and to point certain events that occured after ep.24) @maiawatchesanime "acting like misato sleeps around a lot" She tried to find confort in getting a "son" too, etc. Even if she ever only slept with Kaji, she did it a lot back in the days, so she has the right to consider sex (and men in general) to be one of her "problems" and way to run away. That's only the way she represents this to herself when she tries to take some distance and be critical. Kaworu was there for less than a day, I think. Nevertheless he was in total acceptance of Shinji and in the end sacrificed itself for Shinji('s species), no wonder the constantly "rejected" Shinji takes it hard and thinks he's worth less than this person. |
Rei_IIIJul 28, 2020 10:48 PM
| This was very trip episode... I wouldn't want to watch it on one. |
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RangFlash said: I loved this episode. It was directed in a very strange and memorable way. The psycho babble was not really babble in my opinion, because it made sense when compared to the rest of the show. This. Reading the comments I realize that a lot of people were not paying attention to the show. This not a no holds barred mecha action feast (although it has elements of that). The relationships between characters, the psychology of contact between people, parent/child relationships are all massively important. |
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| I like the episode! It's more or less a recap of what has happened and all the experiences, relationships and everyone around and help shape who you are today. Rei said it best. "The current me has been molded through contact with other people" You have to look back what the characters were at the beginning. Sure Shinji is still a bitch, but he's beginning to understand how he no longer wants to be along anymore and probably can't back to his old ways. It seems the "Human Instrumental Project" is more of a analysis of your own mind and the experience you made. I have no doubt that Ikari maybe trying to revive Yui through Rei and using Rei's memories. Already last episode! Let's do this shit! |
| It's like watching someone having mental breakdown but not only about himself, but also others :P |
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mel said: Gotta be the worst episode I've ever watched. It's like being locked in a dark room and hearing people bitch, moan, and scream at you for half an hour. Oh wait, that pretty much summarizes this episode. Fucking Gainax. Zelgato said: I was dead tired when I saw this episode. It gave me a head ache. Trust me, you don't need to be tired to get a headache off this. I thought that I was the only one who got headache after watching the episode... Man damnit, 20+ minutes of this shit damnit.. They could've just summarized it in 5 minutes or less.. sayami said: I didn't like this episode at all. It was so boring that I could hardly follow what they were talking about~ I hope the last episode won't be this pain in the ass to watch~ hope so lol Moonfrost said: All I get is that everyone is lonely and doesn't to be alone in this world. Yeah lol, wtf is everyone doing mann |
| It is obvious that Shinji is suffering from PTSD and needs an intervention. And his Dad's "Human Instrumentality Project" construct he created ain't the key to helping the young man move on. He won the war but now has to live with that. Kid needs proper therapy. Powerful episode though. Showing the flaws inherent in the conceit of all these adventure scenarios. We're never shown the consequences of all the battles fought and how it effects the characters. |
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| gosh this stuff is so Heavy i have a headache trying to wrap my head around it haha i think i'm starting to understand, but man this is a baffling way to present all these ideas. and all of a sudden right at the end! from what i've read about the production of the show, this wasn't exactly the intended plan for the story so i can understand it being rushed, but i wish they had incorporated more of the philosophical and psychological themes from the start because it's so interesting so the human instrumentality project is a way to combine everyone's souls into one so that everyone can live with the version of others they have created in their minds and not be burdened by the fallible nature of others? and in shinji's reality he is entirely alone? so he doesn't have to suffer the disappointment of letting people down and he doesn't act for the sake of praise from others? that's what i'm understanding. it's probably not entirely accurate but that's the fun of it, being provoked into thinking all these things one thing that does confuse me is misato: they keep saying she seeks the comfort of other men so that she doesn't feel lonely, but we've only ever seen her with kaji? unless i've forgotten some big conversation or event that happened, acting like misato sleeps around a lot makes no sense to me because she hasn't? unless that's simply what she thinks other people think of her? and asuka has such a tragic backstory, every time they go into it they reveal something else about her past. her devolving into catatonia and depression absolutely makes sense, her expectations of herself were sky high and when she didn't match them it's like all her self esteem just burst and her mind collapsed. also how long was kaworu around for shinji to say he loved him and that he was a better person than shinji who deserved to live more? just curious. he seemed cool. shame. |
| This one was of the worst episodes I've ever seen for real, I dropped it like 2 times in the middle and I was struggling so much to finish it lol. |
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| Its not as bad episode as it is confusing and misleading. I just agree with many other people here : there is no point of this episode. It shows us such an unusual reflection of Shinji and his desires of different world. I don't know what to expect from final episode tbh, but it probably won't effect my final appeal and rating of whole show too much |
| The case of Shinji. The case of Asuka. The case of Rei. The case of Misato. Shinji must search deep within the Misato that exists in his mind. lol Misato is 29. 83-59-82. Weight 47. The case of Asuka. Dat ending. Onward to the finale. |
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| This is an episode of anime that I can unironically say was painful to watch. Literally worse than any filler episode I have ever seen; this could have all been summed up in 3 minutes. |
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| most of people here are small minded idiot who doesnt understand what is going to on .. remember theres a movie named END OF EVANGELION.. so stop your whining or go watch kodomo genre anime |
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| Interesting introspections but way too time consuming, and it totally broke the climax that was building up towards the series finale.. But now let’s find out where everything is gonna lead.. |
then said: You're not the only one. Although I think I did learn a lot about some charactersNo idea what happened So does the Human Instrumentality Project make everyone live in an ideal world? I'm so confused. Why wasn't the enaction of the project shown? |
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GoZha said: then said: You're not the only one. Although I think I did learn a lot about some charactersNo idea what happened So does the Human Instrumentality Project make everyone live in an ideal world? I'm so confused. Why wasn't the enaction of the project shown? This is where the thrill begins,you get preached about freedom,pay attention,if you understand everything you maybe cry,same like eren freedom lines when fight,but this is with subtlety while eren has nothing so we didn't notice that eren is actuallly deep PM or something homie if you want discuss some |
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| Pretty okay psychological episode ig. Didn't really find it boring And I guess their enemy in the last episode is Seele? |
| At some points it felt like they were asking me all these questions and telling me all these things and it hit a bit to close to home |
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| I guess this is what I expected from a mal discussion board but it's still disappointing to see. Anyway this is the episode that made me realize why this show is legendary, not to discredit the last 10 or so episodes of course. To have such an unfortunate turn of events with script rewrites or whatever other production issues it may have been, they really made something special out of it. They just stripped back the facade of the plot that doesn't really matter anyway and showed us what we actually watch the show for. Sure it's super straightforward but it asserts itself so well for how radically different it is from the rest of the show. |
saoz3 said: I guess this is what I expected from a mal discussion board but it's still disappointing to see. Anyway this is the episode that made me realize why this show is legendary, not to discredit the last 10 or so episodes of course. To have such an unfortunate turn of events with script rewrites or whatever other production issues it may have been, they really made something special out of it. They just stripped back the facade of the plot that doesn't really matter anyway and showed us what we actually watch the show for. Sure it's super straightforward but it asserts itself so well for how radically different it is from the rest of the show. Yea, ADHD generation with no more than 5 minutes of attention span just flooding the discussion. Disappointed but not surprised. |
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| I guess it's just the timing of when I watched the episode because compared to years ago in the early replies I have a different opinion where I actually sympathized with the thoughts. I don't know how to interpret this episode other than I was enthralled and understood it. |
| Well shit... I understand that this episode was to add more depth with a lot of nuances; however, it was such a pain to go through. Can't believe the next episode is the last. Also, that scene I see every, where Shinji is sitting on his chair depressed:  |
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| I watched EoE before this so it makes more sense. I honestly recommend that. It explains the human instrumentality and why people are going through changes and what not. I really liked this as a different view/take on things. Really explores the pain, the history, and the development of the characters. It also explores their relationships. I thought it was great but can see why Hideaki Anno made the movie, great choice on his part. |
| deepest episode of the series so far |
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| What a confusing and tedious episode, they could have summed up everything that happened so easily. |
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| Bruh Tohji was pretty much just forgotten about. Nothing about him being the Fourth Children was ever mentioned again... |
| I get what they were going for with this episode but it just wasn't executed properly, left feeling like a faint attempt to be psychological. EP 25 TLDR; Everyone doesn't want to be lonely ¯_(ツ)_/¯ |
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| That was one heavy episode. Honestly, these last few episodes were pretentious af. Execution could've been better for this one. Lots of repetitive monologues here but second half with Misato was good. |
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| Lumayan sih, tapi makin ke akhir episode makin banyak scene yang gitu-gitu saja dengan durasi yang lama. |
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| such a good episode, i like how the stage is used to not only shed their selfishness into light but to also put your attention into the characters and their inner conflicts. what eva has always been about. brilliant how well they did the entire self realization thing, i suppose it gets a lot of flak because of how anti-climatic and confusing it is (the budget running out is one reason) but i still think this is really good regardless. really hyped for 26 and how well they'll conclude its themes and characters, feeling a 10 + better than eoe (?) |
cosmicoisrealApr 9, 2022 1:44 AM
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| Damn really good episode for showing all the characters problems or true colours. Even though i probably only understood less then a fraction of it, heck probably less after taking a break from watching and coming back to this, this ep still sent hell chills down my spine. Shinji's instrumentality, Asaka's separation anxiety, Rei's multiple clones conflicting with who Rei actually is as an individual was really all my brain could comprehend this episode. Still scratching my head at misato's deal but either way shit was wild and i loved it |
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Fortress_MaximusMay 2, 2022 9:54 AM
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| Lol, I so feel you guys. This episode made absolutely so fucking sense tbh. But lucky for me, I had watched Death and Rebirth, seen this episode twice and saw an "Evangelion explained in 7 mins" video on YouTube. To say the least, now I think I have got a pretty clear understanding of this anime. Idk why the director didn't just make it easy to understand and had to make it all so subtle and philosophical. If anyone's stumped on this anime or particularly after this episode, I highly recommend ya'll to check this video out. |
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