| Last few months i saw a lot of topics and quotes and also reviews that say kuroko no baske is on par with this lovely all time favorite anime called slam dunk. Personally i am sick and tired of this new generation of otakus with no taste in anime whatsoever. i just need some old school guys to back me up so that i don't feel alone in this new world. I need appreciation for slam dunk also i need some people to bad mouth kuroko no baske. i mean really people? kuroko no baske? u serious? |
| Slamdunk is classic but new generation kids prefer better art nowadays. But hey, did you watch kuroko no baske? I would say both animes still fulfill the entertainment for basketball fans out there regardless of the date it was aired. At least its better than the Dear Boys crap. xDD |
DenjaX said: Slamdunk is classic but new generation kids prefer better art nowadays. But hey, did you watch kuroko no baske? I would say both animes still fulfill the entertainment for basketball fans out there regardless of the date it was aired. At least its better than the Dear Boys crap. xDD yeah i did watch it but then again, it was just mediocre. i mean besides being an otaku im also an avid basketball fanatic so when a japanese kid does a trick shot with no possible way to go in it gets on my nerves or the same thing with a full court three pointer. i know realistic values dont hold on animes that much but as far as realism goes i think hanamichi sakuragi doing a blake griffin-esque dunk is way more fun to watch because the fact remains. if the opponent is tricky in a sports anime you do something trickier and win or lose. and it goes on an on. so when i see a full court shot that goes in all the time something goes wrong in my mind because well, it is the ultimate move you cant beat it with logic or another move. so i like watching anime characters playing like nba players cuz there is absolutely nothing wrong with that but when that high school characters play better than the nba players it just makes me feel sad and broken. i mean there is a character that can pass the ball better than steve nash but cant make a shot i mean wtf? it was an ok wtch at the end but the score of that anime really pissed me off. manga was ok for a while but it didnt hold up like SD in the end. |
| Yes people can compare them since they are both sports anime with the same focus of Basketball, regardless of their quality. As anime I personally like Kuroko no Basket like twice as much as Slam Dunk. Slam Dunk just got on my nerve all the time with Sakuragi always showing promise of becoming a great player and then slamming his head on the backboard, I don't remember his relationship ever going well, there was too much drama, and they lost too much. I'm sure the manga is better than the anime but in terms of anime I like Kuroko no Basket more as it didn't piss me off and was pretty interesting. |
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| I like both series, honest. But Slam Dunk is better in a lot of ways. It's more realistic. Sakuragi is admirable whereas Kuroko is adorable. And Slam Dunk has natural humor. As for the art, I can't say one is better than the other since each has it's good points (KnB has clean, striking colors; SD realistic). But considering this is a shounen manga, SD's art works better, is more effective. |
| I like Kuroko, but if you're a sport fan like me, then the answer is obviously Slam Dunk. The number of bullshit in Kuroko is just too damn high. |
| Slam Dunk is a masterpiece. Kuroko no Basuke is pretty good, looks really cool with all those 'special atks' and all; but as someone who likes basketball i must say that Slam Dunk is better. |
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| Slam dunk, nuff said |
Candor said: DenjaX said: I think it fulfilled entertainment for everyone except basketball fans. I mean seriously, why would a basketball fan enjoy an anime where a character shoots a full-court 3-point with 100% accuracy? Or a guy who can counter that 100% accuracy 3-point shot with jumping as if he's jumping on a trampoline? Or a fast player who shoots with his eyes in his ass also with 100% accuracy? And a copy-cat who can master that 100% accuracy ballet shot with also the same power? Not to mention the guy who can fucking steal the ability with also a 100% accuracy and the same power. There are lots of examples to mention, but I don't think basketball fans, well most of them, can enjoy KnB.I would say both animes still fulfill the entertainment for basketball fans out there regardless of the date it was aired. At least its better than the Dear Boys crap. xDD Don't get me wrong, I really enjoyed KnB, but those things really irritate me to some points (I'm not a basketball fan), but I guess I was holding my expectations really high, I was expecting another SD, but I guess I was wrong, but still I'm really enjoying KnB (except the current game..) Thanks Candor for this ....always saying the right things Anyways as a basketball player I can tell you .....if someone watches KnB for realistic basketball ...LOL KnB has a good interesting story for a shounen sport series and most like it for the animation and art and its the most recent basketball anime and that's pretty much why I like it Not to mention basketball anime are few , if there was another basketball anime that were to come out now and be more realistic and show better movement with players and better crossover animation THAT would be what I would watch something that looks like an actual basketball game. I settle for KnB because that's the best were gonna get and nothing annoys me more than their stupid power ESPECIALLY the copy cat power ....as someone who practices daily this is the most upsetting thing out of all the powers ....funny thing is all the powers are skill sets that great players have in real basketball it's just that in Kuroko those skill are taken from just being a skill to superpowers . So I think because basketball anime is scarce people choose KnB it's the best recent basketball THEMED anime you can get however KnB does a good job showing team ethic which is about it |
| I do okay with that comparison, but Slam Dunk will always win IMO, esp. in some aspects : Character Character development Story pacing Gags Other than those points, it will be depends on the reader/watcher POV But it would be a better comparison if someone compare Kuroko no Basuke and Eyeshield 21 |
tensaigandy said: Actually KnB is not over yet, so those might be expanded on more in the next season or so.I do okay with that comparison, but Slam Dunk will always win IMO, esp. in some aspects : Character Character development Story pacing Gags Other than those points, it will be depends on the reader/watcher POV But it would be a better comparison if someone compare Kuroko no Basuke and Eyeshield 21 While those may have closer a atmosphere in terms of sports stories, they are two different sports. |
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| I like them both, kuroko n' Slam dunk make you want to play basketball. kuroko 9/10 Slam dunk(less exaggeration) 9.5/10 |
deniz1 said: Last few months i saw a lot of topics and quotes and also reviews that say kuroko no baske is on par with this lovely all time favorite anime called slam dunk. Personally i am sick and tired of this new generation of otakus with no taste in anime whatsoever. i just need some old school guys to back me up so that i don't feel alone in this new world. I need appreciation for slam dunk also i need some people to bad mouth kuroko no baske. i mean really people? kuroko no baske? u serious? Every anime viewers have different opinions on each anime so please respect their opinions...and Even though you're a big fan of Slam Dunk you don't have the rights to mock Kuroko no Basket and even calling people to bad mouth on it, only a non-educated person can come up with that kind of idea even though you're frustrated about its popularity. You can share your thoughts in a nicer way though. Actually, you don't have to seek appreciation for Slam Dunk anymore, there are many viewers out there that love/like that show especially in my country. For your information, Kuroko no Basket's mangaka/author is not that familiar with basketball rules when he started the manga so that's why the characters have impossible skills. One more thing, Kuroko no basket is an ANIME and anime is not meant to be realistic because it's fictional so don't compare it with real-life basketball. Anyway, it's inevitable for the viewers to compare it because they're both about basketball but it doesn't change the fact that they're both different in many angles. P.S. "I am a huge fan of both Kuroko no Basket & Slam Dunk" |
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| I love me some basugay and I've been into anime for a long time. However, I don't feel you can really compare the shows because - while both having the same sport as a focus - they are entirely different STYLES of storytelling. Kuroko no Basuke is a battle shounen thrown onto a basketball court, and this actually works really well for it and plays to the author's strengths. He's admitted not knowing all that much about basketball before it even got animated, albeit he did say he's taking learning it very seriously (which shows given the series did start getting a little more realistic about some of the rules and things), while also keeping the series as what it is - a battle shonen with a unique setting for it. Slam Dunk is more like a sports shonen, which actually puts it into an entirely different genre. If you're too dumb to recognize the difference of a battle shounen and sports shounen - just because they happen to have the same setting - that's nobody's fault but your own. |
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Candor said: Another thing, KnB will never make me marathon 5 volumes in 1 hour, that's how amazing SD was. I definitely agree with this, haha. When I started reading SD, I was really into it. It makes me not want to stop, so I'm going with SD than with KnB. I can't really say the things that makes SD more epic, but in my own opinion, maybe I just like to see how the protagonist struggles in getting better. Because in KnB, Kuroko is already one of the best. Another thing I don't like about KnB is it's unrealistic feel. May as well turn it into a card game. It's like, "Go, Kuroko, use Misdirection", haha. Well, this is just my opinion though. It still depends on the reader. |
| Slam Dunk is all in the past. Today, Is all about KnB. SD had its time to shine. Now is KnB turn. Stop hating. |
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Harutora said: Slam Dunk is all in the past. Today, Is all about KnB. SD had its time to shine. Now is KnB turn. Stop hating. You're like comparing the :hack// series with SAO. ''hack// series is all in the past, it had its time to shine. Now its SAO turn. Stop hating '' Quality will always be quality , it doesn't matter which timezone it is. KNB turn to shine ? Just because there is no other same bkb genre to compete with ? I called that as running a race without a competitor Thus, people compared KNB with SD , because SD is an all time favorites and its still running in people hearts /inb4 cheesy |
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| KnB is pure shit! only some simple minded fujoshi who fap to KnB every night and ppl that only care about art quality saying KnB is better Slam dunk show you how to be hero from zero. in fact, when I was still a kid, I learned how to block, rebound, lay-up from slam dunk. |
DateYutaka said: sorry in sales you cannot SD is the 2nd biggest selling manga ever I'm pretty sure Slam Dunk is the 4th biggest selling (Dragonball is the 2nd). What's your source on that? Also, I'm just going to leave this here: http://theotaku2anime.wordpress.com/2013/02/16/stop-comparing-slam-dunk-and-kuroko-no-basket/ |
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RicoDaMann said: The only reason i would say thats bad about Slam Dunk is the fact that the anime is incomplete. I was completely disappointed, because i watch more anime than read manga. I just wished they could finish. And knb cannot even be compared to slam dunk. The only thing in common between them is basketball but thats it. That would be the same as Berserk, Break Blade, Chrno Crusade, Kyo Samurai Deeper, Samurai X and most manga out there. Lots of anime didn't complete the manga or stay faithful to the original work. |
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Tommk said: And that's why I and a lot of other people rated down those series and others like them. The manga readers see it as a good adaptation of part of the manga, but anime only watchers see it as a half finished story, a big flaw. Sakuragi showed promise, but we never got to see what happened to it.RicoDaMann said: The only reason i would say thats bad about Slam Dunk is the fact that the anime is incomplete. I was completely disappointed, because i watch more anime than read manga. I just wished they could finish. And knb cannot even be compared to slam dunk. The only thing in common between them is basketball but thats it. That would be the same as Berserk, Break Blade, Chrno Crusade, Kyo Samurai Deeper, Samurai X and most manga out there. Lots of anime didn't complete the manga or stay faithful to the original work. |
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| Really don't see the similarity. |
IntroverTurtle said: Tommk said: And that's why I and a lot of other people rated down those series and others like them. The manga readers see it as a good adaptation of part of the manga, but anime only watchers see it as a half finished story, a big flaw. Sakuragi showed promise, but we never got to see what happened to it.RicoDaMann said: The only reason i would say thats bad about Slam Dunk is the fact that the anime is incomplete. I was completely disappointed, because i watch more anime than read manga. I just wished they could finish. And knb cannot even be compared to slam dunk. The only thing in common between them is basketball but thats it. That would be the same as Berserk, Break Blade, Chrno Crusade, Kyo Samurai Deeper, Samurai X and most manga out there. Lots of anime didn't complete the manga or stay faithful to the original work.  |
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| Slam Dunk has transcended Anime. KnB did not. |
ZaWaldo said: How has it transcended anime? By having an unfinished one?Slam Dunk has transcended Anime. KnB did not. |
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IntroverTurtle said: ZaWaldo said: How has it transcended anime? By having an unfinished one?Slam Dunk has transcended Anime. KnB did not. It helped increase the popularity of Basketball in a lot of countries (I know it did in my country) and was a quite the worldwide phenomenon at the time. |
ZaWaldo said: How much? And KnB is a new anime and story, so you can't say it did not, you can say it hasn't yet. And that has nothing to do with the quality of an anime.IntroverTurtle said: ZaWaldo said: How has it transcended anime? By having an unfinished one?Slam Dunk has transcended Anime. KnB did not. It helped increase the popularity of Basketball in a lot of countries (I know it did in my country) and was a quite the worldwide phenomenon at the time. |
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IntroverTurtle said: ZaWaldo said: How much? And KnB is a new anime and story, so you can't say it did not, you can say it hasn't yet. And that has nothing to do with the quality of an anime.IntroverTurtle said: ZaWaldo said: How has it transcended anime? By having an unfinished one?Slam Dunk has transcended Anime. KnB did not. It helped increase the popularity of Basketball in a lot of countries (I know it did in my country) and was a quite the worldwide phenomenon at the time. Well I can't give you actual statistics about this :p BUT I can say that everyone in my school started playing basketball because of it, even made me join a basketball club and was hearing similar stories from SD fans from other countries. It's a given that when reading about Takehiko Inoue (or the SD legacy), inspiring a whole generation of Japanese youth to playing this sport is always cited among his achievements. Well, it wouldn't have had that much of an impact and such positive reception if it wasn't a quality product wouldn't it? It's definitely more revered than KnB and I only mentioned this because I don't want to delve deep into comparing both of their plot/pacing/characters since as another poster mentioned before they're really too different to compare and aim for a completely different audience for me to compare them head to head. |
ZaWaldo said: To a point, but that doesn't mean it's better than an anime that hasn't done that. More revered because of the type of story and possibly because KnB has been out for way less time, big popularity takes time, same with big popularity in other countries. So instead of talking about their plot, pacing, characters, etc, you went for something not completely related to the quality of the anime and something that the other anime can't match up against because it's not old enough and isn't popular yet so it hasn't been brought to many countries?IntroverTurtle said: ZaWaldo said: How much? And KnB is a new anime and story, so you can't say it did not, you can say it hasn't yet. And that has nothing to do with the quality of an anime.IntroverTurtle said: ZaWaldo said: How has it transcended anime? By having an unfinished one?Slam Dunk has transcended Anime. KnB did not. It helped increase the popularity of Basketball in a lot of countries (I know it did in my country) and was a quite the worldwide phenomenon at the time. Well I can't give you actual statistics about this :p BUT I can say that everyone in my school started playing basketball because of it, even made me join a basketball club and was hearing similar stories from SD fans from other countries. It's a given that when reading about Takehiko Inoue (or the SD legacy), inspiring a whole generation of Japanese youth to playing this sport is always cited among his achievements. Well, it wouldn't have had that much of an impact and such positive reception if it wasn't a quality product wouldn't it? It's definitely more revered than KnB and I only mentioned this because I don't want to delve deep into comparing both of their plot/pacing/characters since as another poster mentioned before they're really too different to compare and aim for a completely different audience for me to compare them head to head. |
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| The reason I don't really like Slam Dunk was because I am not here to see how Hanamichi starting basketball from the scratch. It was boring and slow, real slow.. I think I will get back to it now and skip those unnecessary parts.. If I really like the characters, I might consider going back to watch those I've missed. KnB was more.. unrealistic.. but it was cool ZaWaldo said: IntroverTurtle said: ZaWaldo said: How has it transcended anime? By having an unfinished one?Slam Dunk has transcended Anime. KnB did not. It helped increase the popularity of Basketball in a lot of countries (I know it did in my country) and was a quite the worldwide phenomenon at the time. Not only Slam Dunk, most of the good old anime did, like Major (not that old), or some other that I can't name lol, maybe Hajime no Ippo? Zealot said: I loved SD, so naturally I was excited when I heard about Kuroko. Needless to say, I was completely let down. They are polar opposites in every way if you disregard the basketball part. Slam dunk had that intense rivalry/bromance combo, classic die-hard main character, actual tactics and strategies, and a diverse cast of characters. KnB had superpowers. Implying that KnB has no intense rivalry/bromance combo, die-hard main character, and to a lesser extend, actual tactics and strategies? |
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Natsu12345 said: Well too bad, he stays like that for basically the whole anime. It's not a complete adaptation.The reason I don't really like Slam Dunk was because I am not here to see how Hanamichi starting basketball from the scratch. It was boring and slow, real slow.. I think I will get back to it now and skip those unnecessary parts.. If I really like the characters, I might consider going back to watch those I've missed. KnB was more.. unrealistic.. but it was cool |
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IntroverTurtle said: Natsu12345 said: Well too bad, he stays like that for basically the whole anime. It's not a complete adaptation.The reason I don't really like Slam Dunk was because I am not here to see how Hanamichi starting basketball from the scratch. It was boring and slow, real slow.. I think I will get back to it now and skip those unnecessary parts.. If I really like the characters, I might consider going back to watch those I've missed. KnB was more.. unrealistic.. but it was cool Uhm, is it a good choice to skip through the boring parts and get to the matches, only to come back if the characters are appealing? |
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Natsu12345 said: Yeah that might be fine, but there is some conflict resolution that brings in a new player that is kind of important(I believe in the middle). You might want to check to make sure with someone who's watched it recently.IntroverTurtle said: Natsu12345 said: Well too bad, he stays like that for basically the whole anime. It's not a complete adaptation.The reason I don't really like Slam Dunk was because I am not here to see how Hanamichi starting basketball from the scratch. It was boring and slow, real slow.. I think I will get back to it now and skip those unnecessary parts.. If I really like the characters, I might consider going back to watch those I've missed. KnB was more.. unrealistic.. but it was cool Uhm, is it a good choice to skip through the boring parts and get to the matches, only to come back if the characters are appealing? |
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