| Assassin. Spoiler: Without him, there would be no Assassin's Creed. |
| Dermatitus have plagued men for millenia. Peace, THERE IS NO CURE. |
Araya said: I love to see Berserker in action, but I prefer Rider overall. Great in his speech and in action. This. |
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| Its definitely Berserker for me. Without saying a single word he became my favorite. Can't say that's happened before. |
| I like Rider, Saber and Gilgamesh. Lancer and Berserker are okay. I dislike Assassin. I HATE Caster with a great passion T_T |
𝓻𝓮𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓷 𝓽𝓸 𝓖𝓾𝓼𝓾 𝔀𝓲𝓽𝓱 𝓶𝓮 |
| Archer :) |
| Got to be Archer for me. His intellectual level and the way he highly think of him self and still think rationally always been his charm. This season we've seen a side of him we barely knew about from the Fate\Stay Night. I'm sure he will play a big role in the last season in April next year. |
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| Caster and Rider. I love silly crazy characters. |
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| Poor Assassin, just three votes! I wonder if they had include the ditched Loli!Assassin + Waver + Rider subplot, they would be more popular. |
ThessDec 26, 2011 2:17 PM
Thess said: Poor Assassin, just three votes! I wonder if they had include the ditched Loli!Assassin + Waver + Rider subplot, they would be more popular. If they added that part, what would have happened to the loli assassin (lol) in the end? |
sallym613 said: If they added that part, what would have happened to the loli assassin (lol) in the end? Killed by Rider and Waver, after Kirei issues the command spell. It was mean to be a heartbreaking moment because she broke out the hive mind and they adopted her and grew close to her. Like a wacky comedy trio that ends in tragedy ;; Pity Gen didn't fully write the idea, she still exists in official art. |
| Rider is by far the best servant and character of Fate/Zero.. This could be my top 3 of servants. Fate/Stay Night -> Saber Fate/Stay Night Unlimited Blade Works -> Lancer Fate/Zero -> Rider |
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KyonSmith said: Rider is by far the best servant and character of Fate/Zero.. This could be my top 3 of servants. Fate/Stay Night -> Saber Fate/Stay Night Unlimited Blade Works -> Lancer Fate/Zero -> Rider Actually, he didn't, but the anime made it look like that. Read my comments in the last thread of episode 11 for more novel information. :) |
| Lancer, Rider, then Archer. |
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| I really like Lancer, Saber, and Rider - in that order. And I think Archer is extremely attractive. |
| For me it is everyone of them, however Caster just seem more interesting and I am as "artistic" as him so my vote goes to..... |
| My god, Rider simply stole the show from Saber in Zero. He was just so amazing, I felt my heart hanging on his every word. I'm a guy myself mind you..lol |
| From fave to least: Archer, Berserker, Rider, Saber, Caster, Assassin, Lancer. Gil was kinda douchy in F/SN with his "you all suck and should die" attitude. He is SO much more boss in F/Z. Now its more of a "I own you, whether you realize it or not" kinda thing, makes him look the badass that he is (that, and his Judge Dredd "I AM THE LAW" lines from Ep. 11). |
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-Kazu said: My god, Rider simply stole the show from Saber in Zero. He was just so amazing, I felt my heart hanging on his every word. I'm a guy myself mind you..lol No just Rider. Waver simply took away Kiritsugu's protagonist as Master. He is getting character development while the Anime really, REALLY ignores Emiya. Not that I mind, but it did surprise me. gmsephiroth said: Gil was kinda douchy in F/SN with his "you all suck and should die" attitude. He is SO much more boss in F/Z. Now its more of a "I own you, whether you realize it or not" kinda thing, makes him look the badass that he is (that, and his Judge Dredd "I AM THE LAW" lines from Ep. 11). Like in Carnival Phantasm? "I'm the Rules." XD |
ThessDec 30, 2011 12:42 PM
| Come to think of it Rider and Waver have been focused on quite a lot so far. It makes me wonder why they aren't listed as main characters? Aside from Saber, Irisviel, and Kirei I'm pretty sure they've had the most screen time especially when you compare it to Kiritsugu. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
insan3soldiern said: Come to think of it Rider and Waver have been focused on quite a lot so far. It makes me wonder why they aren't listed as main characters? Aside from Saber, Irisviel, and Kirei I'm pretty sure they've had the most screen time especially when you compare it to Kiritsugu. Yeah, it was a (pleasant) surprise. Most of Kiritusugu's screentime, outside of his fight with Kayneth and Illya interactions, is completely forgettable. I guess novel wise it relied on gun stuff and introspection and that doesn't translate well on screen. |
| As you said without a narrator just spouting exposition a lot of the stuff focused on Kiritsugu in the Novel can't be adapted in Anime form. His flashback later on should go some way to making up for it. |
TopgunUKDec 30, 2011 3:42 PM
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azuremask said: True, but I was frustrated that day since the assassin was killed by rider. So many people on the forum claim that the assassin is weak, stupid or kirei have did more fighting then the assassin. kirei order them to only to observe the other masters and then use a command seal to force the assassin to fight rider in the open. Bad time for him not to be scheming since he really could have won the war with assassin. Heck, I wish the assassin was summoned by Kiritsugu instead of kirei then the true skilled of the assassin would have been shown. Kirei didn't use them for this. It was Tokiomi's idea. Kirei (so far) doesn't want to get involved into the Grail War (once he does, brace yourself for epic trolling everyone. You do remember why Kiritsugu fears him right?). Tokiomi told him to use the command spells, thinking they could get to see Rider's trumpcard and get away with minimal losses (since they were like 78 Assassins). The problem was that Rider's NP is a reality marble where he can manipulate the locations of everyone inside (enemy, friend or army). Didn't you notice the assassins were gathered all together in front when thy were circling them and spread a moment ago? It was also in a dessert where they can't hide at all or run since they are in Rider's world... :/ Tokiomi did regret the losses. |
ThessDec 30, 2011 4:10 PM
azuremask said: Thess said: azuremask said: The best servant when come down to guerrilla warfare ASSASSIN. I don't care what anyone says that bastard Kirei was All BRAWN AND NO BRAIN for not taking advantage in this war when he had ASSASSIN. Kirei never wanted to win. He wanted out this mess... Saying Kotomine Kirei has no brain is... lol. He's a master schemer, but only when he wants. This was Tokiomi's idea (he's the idiot). True, but I was frustrated that day since the assassin was killed by rider. So many people on the forum claim that the assassin is weak, stupid or kirei have did more fighting then the assassin. kirei order them to only to observe the other masters and then use a command seal to force the assassin to fight rider in the open. Bad time for him not to be scheming since he really could have won the war with assassin. Heck, I wish the assassin was summoned by Kiritsugu instead of kirei then the true skilled of the assassin would have been shown. I think Kiritsugu is much better off with a powerhouse like Saber than he would've been with Assassin, he's perfectly capable of assassinating Masters himself, and when he comes across one that is too closely guarded by their servant he's got Saber to distract them or just defeat them outright. If he had assassin, as a Master/Servant team they'd be overspecialised at killing masters. If Kiritsugu is discovered by a Servant at any time, he's basically screwed, Assassin is incapable of protecting him from a direct assault by any of them. Rider and Caster can render the Assassins' number advantage null and void with their Noble Phantasms, whilst Archer, Lancer, Saber and Berserker are strong enough to cut through them anyway. The only way it'd work out for Kiritsugu with the Assassins as his Servants would be if the masters were left completely unprotected and in the open in which case he wouldn't even need Assassin to take them out, he could do that himself (Kayneth with his Volumen Hydragyrum would be the trickiest for Kiritsugu to snipe in that situation, yet he was already defeated in a direct confrontation by Kiritsugu in the Novel/show). Just think if Kiritsugu somehow managed to assassinate Gil's Master, the Archer's independant action ability means that he'd still be at large for as long as he could secure his own prana supply, he'd just consume souls to keep himself around indefinitely and Neither Kiritsugu nor his Assassins would be able to do a thing to stop him. |
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Topgunuk69 said: If he had assassin, as a Master/Servant team they'd be overspecialised at killing masters. If Kiritsugu is discovered by a Servant at any time, he's basically screwed, Assassin is incapable of protecting him from a direct assault by any of them. Rider and Caster can render the Assassins' number advantage null and void with their Noble Phantasms, whilst Archer, Lancer, Saber and Berserker are strong enough to cut through them anyway. The only way it'd work out for Kiritsugu with the Assassins as his Servants would be if the masters were left completely unprotected and in the open in which case he wouldn't even need Assassin to take them out, he could do that himself (Kayneth with his Volumen Hydragyrum would be the trickiest for Kiritsugu to snipe in that situation, yet he was already defeated in a direct confrontation by Kiritsugu in the Novel/show). Just think if Kiritsugu somehow managed to assassinate Gil's Master, the Archer's independant action ability means that he'd still be at large for as long as he could secure his own prana supply, he'd just consume souls to keep himself around indefinitely and Neither Kiritsugu nor his Assassins would be able to do a thing to stop him. This. Unlike the anime, Uryuu's not walking around in the night without Caster. And they have a guarded lair (Assassin could infiltrate it AFTER Rider went there first). Without Saber around, Caster would try to win the grail war to resurrect Jeanne too. So he'll be more (?) focused. Killing Tokiomi means Gil'll go with Kirei which is the worst case scenario ever for Kiritsugu (lol). I bet Gil would even kill off whoever is Kirei's Servant to make the contract with him. Targeting Kotomine? If he can fend against a complete stats True Assassin in HF when he's much weaker, in his prime, Kirei would wipe out more than one of those 'diluted' versions. He does fight Dead Apostles, guys. Targeting Waver is hard because he and Rider are joined by the hip. And Rider can wipe out most assassins by himself, with or without Reality Marble. |
ThessDec 30, 2011 4:20 PM
azuremask said: For example ep 11 if kirei didn't use the command spell on assassin just to attack rider then weaver would have been kill by the female assassin. The command spell was "Victory no matter what". It wasn't just attack someone in particular (although they target was Rider and Waver). They targeted Waver, it was clear in the novel (the episode didn't do it justice if you ask me and for many reasons: including cutting key scenes and dialogues). And for the record, outside of battles or healing, Servants usually DO remain at their Master's sides in Spirit form. |
| Rider! He has the best personality in my opinion~ :) |
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| I picked Rider but it is a draw between him and Archer. Thay are both so badass in different ways |
| Gilgamesh and Rider~ |
Jeigan said: Rider, hands down. I wish there was a spin-off where he were the main character. Give it some months. Waver and Rider are the most popular Master/Servant match in Japan. They are very high on the polls. |
Thess said: Jeigan said: Rider, hands down. I wish there was a spin-off where he were the main character. Give it some months. Waver and Rider are the most popular Master/Servant match in Japan. They are very high on the polls. OoOoO really? That's nice to know, especially since they're my favorite Master/Servant pair =D Got a link or anywhere online that indicates this? |
| Not in this computer, but there were store surveys about favorite Master, Servant and team (as far as we could see, Waver won the Master one easily. Saber had a slight edge but Rider and Gilgamesh were close behind her. Rider+Waver combo easily won the team one). There is also Newtype polls if you want to check them out. Rider and Waver have been in favorite male character one (while Kiritsugu and Lancer were too, Rider and Waver are staying in the polls for more than one month). Rider was actually number one in the latest one. They are the break out characters of the series. Rider was the anime studio 'face' to wish happy Christmas over twitter. Kariya is popular too. My guess this would increase next cour when he gets more screentime. |
ThessJan 18, 2012 7:10 PM
| Wow, I didn't expect sexy sexy Lancer to be so low (only ahead of Assassin and Caster, who barely count anyway...). But in the end, all my love goes to Broskander. ;-; |
| Berserker! He just seems so cool with that armor of his :P |
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Thess said: Not in this computer, but there were store surveys about favorite Master, Servant and team (as far as we could see, Waver won the Master one easily. Saber had a slight edge but Rider and Gilgamesh were close behind her. Rider+Waver combo easily won the team one). There is also Newtype polls if you want to check them out. Rider and Waver have been in favorite male character one (while Kiritsugu and Lancer were too, Rider and Waver are staying in the polls for more than one month). Rider was actually number one in the latest one. They are the break out characters of the series. Rider was the anime studio 'face' to wish happy Christmas over twitter. Kariya is popular too. My guess this would increase next cour when he gets more screentime. Probably mostly because Waver received the most character development. Not to mention that he's easy to relate to compared to the other masters. But there might be other reasons too. Did they dress Rider up as Santa Claus over that twitter? xD Anyhow, I'm going to go look up the Newtype polls. |
| I voted for Saber, I just like her as a hero... Also liked Rider and Gilgamesh, they are most interesting ones imo. Berserker reminds me of the lich king a bit ^^ he is completely badass, but we need to see more about him. |
| Only one I dislike is Lancer. Voted for Caster. |
| Rider But I really like Archer and Lancer, too |
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| Berserker, sure he has a mysterious past and I want to learn more about him but the real reason he is my favorite is because he's Kariya's servant and Kariya is the only guy who is trying to save my poor waifu. |
| "Everyone dies nya" |
| I voted for Archer, but If I vote another I would have picked Berserker. Then Rider. |
| Tbh I probably like Lancer, Rider, and Saber about equally... If I had to decide, the order goes something like: Rider > Saber > Lancer >> Gilgamesh >>>>>> Berserker > Caster >>> Assassin But FSN Archer is definitely still my favorite of the whole fate franchise. |
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| Favorites are Caster and Rider. Either way, I stay devoted to my psychopathic characters, so Caster. But Rider is a really close second, he's pimped out. |
| Berserker because he's just so badass. Rider a close second for obvious reasons :P |
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| Rider tramples them all. |
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