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Nov 6, 2011 6:16 PM
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The anime did missed the inner thought of Kiritsugu, though.

He thought to himself that he had gone soft because if it had been 9 years before, he would blow out the whole building without setting the fire alarm first. Basically, we would killed all of the people in the building just to kill off one master.
Nov 6, 2011 9:11 PM
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Veldril said:
The anime did missed the inner thought of Kiritsugu, though.

He thought to himself that he had gone soft because if it had been 9 years before, he would blow out the whole building without setting the fire alarm first. Basically, we would killed all of the people in the building just to kill off one master.
But that's really a moot point considering we already heard several times how he bombed planes or would open fire in crowded places just to get the target. Unneeded line was unneeded.

Nov 6, 2011 9:12 PM

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Veldril said:
The anime did missed the inner thought of Kiritsugu, though.

He thought to himself that he had gone soft because if it had been 9 years before, he would blow out the whole building without setting the fire alarm first. Basically, we would killed all of the people in the building just to kill off one master.


Well,it's hard to express anyone's inner thought without some dialog/monologue.But,don't you think adding a monologue here seems quite stupid?

PS:it's true that marriage changes a manXD
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2thuriel said:
Veldril said:
The anime did missed the inner thought of Kiritsugu, though.

He thought to himself that he had gone soft because if it had been 9 years before, he would blow out the whole building without setting the fire alarm first. Basically, we would killed all of the people in the building just to kill off one master.


Well,it's hard to express anyone's inner thought without some dialog/monologue.But,don't you think adding a monologue here seems quite stupid?

PS:it's true that marriage changes a manXD


I would not say it is really needed. But if they can find some way to convey that thought, it would just make his character a little bit stronger. It's just that many people seems to think it is cool for bombing the whole building without looking at the conflict of the character.
Nov 6, 2011 10:32 PM

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A part of me is actually glad that the Caster/Ryuunosuke scene got censored. It's a bit early for a human anatomy class.

I lol'd


me too rofl
Nope.
Nov 6, 2011 10:41 PM

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lol mistaken identity, though I don't blame Caster, the first time I saw Saber I thought she was supposed to be Joan of Arc too.

Emo Kirei is so emo XD
Nov 6, 2011 10:51 PM

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Looking at the preview, it looks like they'll at least keep that part where Kiritsugu feels conflicted. You heard him shouting in the preview and it sure isnt about the enemy.
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Looking at the preview, it looks like they'll at least keep that part where Kiritsugu feels conflicted. You heard him shouting in the preview and it sure isn’t about the enemy.
Oh so that was the scream? I though it was the one from Caster.

Why does he think Saber is Joan? Is the resembles that much?

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Nov 6, 2011 11:36 PM

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Yumekichi11 said:
belatkuro said:
Looking at the preview, it looks like they'll at least keep that part where Kiritsugu feels conflicted. You heard him shouting in the preview and it sure isn’t about the enemy.
Oh so that was the scream? I though it was the one from Caster.

Why does he think Saber is Joan? Is the resembles that much?


Picture of jeanne d'arc in the cancelled game:
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Nov 6, 2011 11:53 PM

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Oh so that was the scream? I though it was the one from Caster.

No, Caster is the one at the very end screaming. Kiritsugu was the one after Iri. 'We can still escape' is what he said. Why he said that is for next episode.
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Sigsig said:
Yumekichi11 said:
belatkuro said:
Looking at the preview, it looks like they'll at least keep that part where Kiritsugu feels conflicted. You heard him shouting in the preview and it sure isn’t about the enemy.
Oh so that was the scream? I though it was the one from Caster.

Why does he think Saber is Joan? Is the resembles that much?


Picture of Jeanne d'arc in the cancelled game:
http://blog-imgs-42.fc2.com/h/i/e/hienkyaku/20111030200716cee.jpg
Cancelled? You mean she was supposed to be a servant?

Now I see, thanks for the explanation and Caster is still stupid not to notice the hair style at least.

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Yumekichi11 said:
Sigsig said:
Yumekichi11 said:
belatkuro said:
Looking at the preview, it looks like they'll at least keep that part where Kiritsugu feels conflicted. You heard him shouting in the preview and it sure isn’t about the enemy.
Oh so that was the scream? I though it was the one from Caster.

Why does he think Saber is Joan? Is the resembles that much?


Picture of Jeanne d'arc in the cancelled game:
http://blog-imgs-42.fc2.com/h/i/e/hienkyaku/20111030200716cee.jpg
Cancelled? You mean she was supposed to be a servant?

Now I see, thanks for the explanation and Caster is still stupid not to notice the hair style at least.
She could have cut it. It is believed, in fact, that Joan of Arc most could have had short hair but there's a lot of evidence for and against that. In most Saint Jeanne pictures she has the long hair that she has in the Fate/Apocrypha model, but they're not accurate representations.

Nov 7, 2011 12:34 AM

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Caster isn't stupid.

He's fucking batshit insane, if you haven't noticed.
Nov 7, 2011 12:38 AM
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Just one quick fight, but excellent episode.






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damn, Kiritsugu blow the whole building
he is not a magus killer but he is a terrorist
Nov 7, 2011 5:38 AM

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damn, Kiritsugu blow the whole building
he is not a magus killer but he is a terrorist


He made the entire people inside evacuate, besides gayneth = terrorist?

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ImNotPro said:
damn, Kiritsugu blow the whole building
he is not a magus killer but he is a terrorist


He made the entire people inside evacuate, besides gayneth = terrorist?
He actually thinks to himself how he as softened up since he wouldn't have hesitated to bring down the entire buildings, innocents and all, in the past. So yes, you could kinda consider him a terrorist.

Nov 7, 2011 10:38 AM

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LOL when Lancer's master was elaborating his whole plan about how many traps were in the building, then Kiritsugu blows it up. I was like "YOU JUST GOT OWNED."

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Nov 7, 2011 11:40 AM

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Nice episode once again.

It was also the first time for the people who have only watched F/SN anime adaptation to see that Kirei is actually pretty badass fighter, not just a guy who only works cowarldy behind the scenes. And like Gil, I also think he's interesting guy otherwise too. Might be my favorite character from the Fate universe. And the fact that Jouji Nakata is voicing him doesn't hurt a bit either.
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Caster is a crazy f*ck! Very interesting character, I wanna see this guy go berserk against another servant!

Pretty neat developments through the episode, I'm very intrigued by Gilgamesh conversation. What is this guy up to.
Nov 8, 2011 3:09 AM
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I feel really bad for Keyneth.
He got NTR'd by his own servant.
Nov 8, 2011 4:06 AM

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The December issue of Kadokawa Shoten's Monthly Newtype magazine is revealing on Thursday that the next issue will cover the launch of a new Fate/Zero project on December 10. Newtype's next-issue preview does not indicate what medium the new project will be in.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2011-11-08/new-fate/zero-project-to-be-revealed-in-newtype

Awesome !
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The December issue of Kadokawa Shoten's Monthly Newtype magazine is revealing on Thursday that the next issue will cover the launch of a new Fate/Zero project on December 10. Newtype's next-issue preview does not indicate what medium the new project will be in.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2011-11-08/new-fate/zero-project-to-be-revealed-in-newtype

Awesome !
Interesting but this only mentions of what to become of season 2 of Fate Zero, correct?

Also it will reveal some key notes/production methods and adaptations techniques for season 2. Also correct?

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Newtype's scan "Fate/Zero S2"
http://i546.photobucket.com/albums/hh419/dtshyk/84471df7.jpg

Newtype's scan "Fate/Zero NEW PROJECT"
http://livedoor.2.blogimg.jp/humanity6/imgs/f/8/f87b801f.jpg

in my opinion ... it will be a Movie Project Like F/SN Unlimited Blede Works so a alternative version <~~~ sorry for my bad eng -_-"
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Newtype's scan "Fate/Zero S2"
http://i546.photobucket.com/albums/hh419/dtshyk/84471df7.jpg

Newtype's scan "Fate/Zero NEW PROJECT"
http://livedoor.2.blogimg.jp/humanity6/imgs/f/8/f87b801f.jpg

in my opinion ... it will be a Movie Project Like F/SN Unlimited Blede Works so a alternative version <~~~ sorry for my bad eng -_-"


doubt its like UBW, since ubw was sort of based on an another game route (although DEEN butchered it just as much as their FSN "adaptation").

Most likely it will be movie dealing with certain novel (side-) story about Kiritsugu Emiya :)
Nov 8, 2011 8:52 AM

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If it really is Heart of Freaks sidestory that they're doing, OVA should be enough. Movie length is a bit long for it.
Or it could be a different thing.
Whatever it is I'm looking forward to it :)
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Fai said:
Vasto-Lord said:
Newtype's scan "Fate/Zero S2"
http://i546.photobucket.com/albums/hh419/dtshyk/84471df7.jpg

Newtype's scan "Fate/Zero NEW PROJECT"
http://livedoor.2.blogimg.jp/humanity6/imgs/f/8/f87b801f.jpg

in my opinion ... it will be a Movie Project Like F/SN Unlimited Blede Works so a alternative version <~~~ sorry for my bad eng -_-"


doubt its like UBW, since ubw was sort of based on an another game route (although DEEN butchered it just as much as their FSN "adaptation").

Most likely it will be movie dealing with certain novel (side-) story about Kiritsugu Emiya :)
Should not the third route be adapted into the movie?

Doing any other movie is a waste IMO. Of course redoing DEEN stuff is a must.

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If it really is Heart of Freaks sidestory that they're doing, OVA should be enough. Movie length is a bit long for it.


Depends. they might want to expand it a bit. Also movie can still vary in length, it just generally means that the project has more money in it than OVA stuff.

I am personally convinced its HoF.

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Fai said:
Vasto-Lord said:
Newtype's scan "Fate/Zero S2"
http://i546.photobucket.com/albums/hh419/dtshyk/84471df7.jpg

Newtype's scan "Fate/Zero NEW PROJECT"
http://livedoor.2.blogimg.jp/humanity6/imgs/f/8/f87b801f.jpg

in my opinion ... it will be a Movie Project Like F/SN Unlimited Blede Works so a alternative version <~~~ sorry for my bad eng -_-"


doubt its like UBW, since ubw was sort of based on an another game route (although DEEN butchered it just as much as their FSN "adaptation").

Most likely it will be movie dealing with certain novel (side-) story about Kiritsugu Emiya :)
Should not the third route be adapted into the movie?

Doing any other movie is a waste IMO. Of course redoing DEEN stuff is a must.


Its "fate zero project' meaning its not FSN project. :)
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Should not the third route be adapted into the movie?

Doing any other movie is a waste IMO. Of course redoing DEEN stuff is a must.

Honestly, a movie is FAR too short to adapt a route, and I'm sure ufotable would realize this even if they were able to animate HF.
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Should not the third route be adapted into the movie?

Doing any other movie is a waste IMO. Of course redoing DEEN stuff is a must.

Honestly, a movie is FAR too short to adapt a route, and I'm sure ufotable would realize this even if they were able to animate HF.

^

This.

Every route of FSN should get 13 episode adaptation from ufotable each.
Nov 9, 2011 8:37 AM

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Yeah Fai, i think it will be HOF too.

and ,new pictures of episode 7...

Nov 9, 2011 8:54 AM

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So, that dude didn't die?
Nov 9, 2011 9:03 AM

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and ,new pictures of episode 7...



Rider and his casual t-shirt xD Gotta love his pose here.
Nov 9, 2011 9:58 AM

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I do not understand what is the advantage of the master of lancer from the other master .
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I do not understand what is the advantage of the master of lancer from the other master .
The Master has to provide mana directly to his Servant in order to mantain that Servant's power and corporeal body. Kayneth bended the rules and instead has a sort of triangle relationship of power. Kayneth is the master but the mana is provided by Sola.

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loub31 said:
I do not understand what is the advantage of the master of lancer from the other master .
The Master has to provide mana directly to his Servant in order to mantain that Servant's power and corporeal body. Kayneth bended the rules and instead has a sort of triangle relationship of power. Kayneth is the master but the mana is provided by Sola.

but any magician can do that ... it's not a condition to be a master to provide mana to the servant
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loub31 said:
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I do not understand what is the advantage of the master of lancer from the other master .
The Master has to provide mana directly to his Servant in order to mantain that Servant's power and corporeal body. Kayneth bended the rules and instead has a sort of triangle relationship of power. Kayneth is the master but the mana is provided by Sola.

but any magician can do that ... it's not a condition to be a master to provide mana to the servant


Master/Servant mana connection determines a lot of things, including servants stats, hence why Saber's stats were incredibly gimped under Shirou and incredibly hax under
as well as Kiritsugu. Another perfect example is FSN Assassin - complete weakling under one master, a complete uber badass under the other.
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loub31 said:
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loub31 said:
I do not understand what is the advantage of the master of lancer from the other master .
The Master has to provide mana directly to his Servant in order to mantain that Servant's power and corporeal body. Kayneth bended the rules and instead has a sort of triangle relationship of power. Kayneth is the master but the mana is provided by Sola.

but any magician can do that ... it's not a condition to be a master to provide mana to the servant


He can Use ALL his mana to fight against another master, that is the advantage...

the other masters need to care about Mana supply all the time. Like Kariya.
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Yeah Fai, i think it will be HOF too.

and ,new pictures of episode 7...

Caster looks wild in one of them.

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So, that dude didn't die?


Who, Kayneth? Nah, guy is like a cockroach. Kiritsugu will probably realize that.

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I feel really bad for Keyneth.
He got NTR'd by his own servant.


Lmao. Lancer is a walking NTR bomb waiting to happen.
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loub31 said:
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loub31 said:
I do not understand what is the advantage of the master of lancer from the other master .
The Master has to provide mana directly to his Servant in order to mantain that Servant's power and corporeal body. Kayneth bended the rules and instead has a sort of triangle relationship of power. Kayneth is the master but the mana is provided by Sola.

but any magician can do that ... it's not a condition to be a master to provide mana to the servant


He can Use ALL his mana to fight against another master, that is the advantage...

the other masters need to care about Mana supply all the time. Like Kariya.
Precisely. And no, you didn't got me when I said Sola was the one providing mana. While yes, any magus could provide magical energy to the servant (and in fact, any human soul could be harvested as magical energy for said servant) only a Master can provide it directly without any extra rituals. In Lancer's situation Kayneth retains Master status but Sola-Ui has a direct link with Lancer and provides Lancer with magical energy. This allows Kayneth to be able to use his own magic without worrying about keeping reserves for Lancer. Basically, while a Master like Kariya will be sucked dry by his Servant, Kayneth will be fine since his magic is not being used at all to mantain Lancer.

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Gamaliel said:
Yeah Fai, i think it will be HOF too.

and ,new pictures of episode 7...



yay, Rider in t-shirt... XD
Next episode will be fun.
The only downfall to episode 6 is Rider's absence.


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loub31 said:
I do not understand what is the advantage of the master of lancer from the other master .
The Master has to provide mana directly to his Servant in order to mantain that Servant's power and corporeal body. Kayneth bended the rules and instead has a sort of triangle relationship of power. Kayneth is the master but the mana is provided by Sola.

but any magician can do that ... it's not a condition to be a master to provide mana to the servant


Then how did other magus transfers his/her mana to another master's servant?

Did they have to do what Shirou did to Saber in FS/N too?

No wonder she prefer Lancer than her own fiance :D

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Then how did other magus transfers his/her mana to another master's servant?

Did they have to do what Shirou did to Saber in FS/N too?

No wonder she prefer Lancer than her own fiance :D

Exactly magus can have sexual intercourses or do a ritual like the dragon/fish-thing present in the anime and Realta Nua (all-age version of Fsn) to transfer their mana.
In this case Sola-Ui is linked with Lancer to provide mana instead of Kayneth meaning she can at anytime replenish Lancer's mana without bothering with rituals or sex (not that she would mind for the later).
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Then how did other magus transfers his/her mana to another master's servant?

Did they have to do what Shirou did to Saber in FS/N too?

No wonder she prefer Lancer than her own fiance :D

Exactly magus can have sexual intercourses or do a ritual like the dragon/fish-thing present in the anime and Realta Nua (all-age version of Fsn) to transfer their mana.
In this case Sola-Ui is linked with Lancer to provide mana instead of Kayneth meaning she can at anytime replenish Lancer's mana without bothering with rituals or sex (not that she would mind for the later).


I don't know man, I recently watched up to that dragon scene in question in the Fate/stay anime and it's pretty obvious they had sex. So, frankly, I don't think the dragon/fish thing is any different.
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That's because RN didn't exist back then and they had to censor this part. So they kept the "skinship" for the fans and added a glorious CG dragon to replace sex.
Then this idea was reused for RN, and in UBW (both movie and game) you can see that there is no ambiguity about it, no sex only seafood.
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That's because RN didn't exist back then and they had to censor this part. So they kept the "skinship" for the fans and added a glorious CG dragon to replace sex.
Then this idea was reused for RN, and in UBW (both movie and game) you can see that there is no ambiguity about it, no sex only seafood.


Mmm sexy CG dragon *drools*
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Actually now that I think about it....Saber would make more sense if she would've been Joan of Arc.

Sorry SUPER HARDCORE F/SN and F/Z fans.....but, being King Arthur has never made any sense whatsoever!

However a blonde woman who was courageous, fought in battles, and actually DID pretend to be a man (Joan of Arc), make a lot more sense!


Well, whatever, I don't really mind Saber being King Arthur.....it just doesn't make sense.
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^^ im the great thing about this show is that it acknowledges the responses of a typical viewer in a way that makes total sense; so gilgamesh thinks his master is boring and caster is convinced that saber is joan.
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Well, whatever, I don't really mind Saber being King Arthur.....it just doesn't make sense.


You're like the guy who will always question a joke.

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