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Feb 25, 2011 10:11 AM

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Unfortunately yes.
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Hi. I'm in the process of comming up with a new design.
I need your feedback.

So this is my idea:


Before you close this tab in terror let me assure you I'm not seriously thinking about using this grey monster.
It's just a mockup to get an idea about the placement of the individual parts. Ignore the color, font, progress bar, the red stuff and the values.

OK, now that we got this out of the way let me tell you about the new way of tracking progress.
As we found out the old tracker sucks because the growth keeps slowing down.
Instead of that I'd like to introduce levels. (having the bar reset as TheResistance suggested)
You get a level and a progress bar until the next level.
So far I'm thinking 1.825 days on anime == level up. In other words 1 year on anime == lvl 200. Is that too fast/slow/OK?
When you level up the progress bar resets.

As you noticed there is a chibi (that I shamelessly downloaded somewhere from the net - it's zatsune miku).
I learned chibi hunting is no easy task. Just try typing chibi in google images. There isn't much usable material.
So, Please donate chibis that would look good in the tracker if you can spare some. You can PM me or just post them here in this thread (please use spoiler tags if you have a lot of them).
Depending on how much chibis I find they could change based on the level and/or the username. (it would be pretty boring if everyone had the same chibi, don't you think?)
If by chance someone contributed a set of a chibi growing up, then it grow up based on the level.

I'm practically asleap now so that's it for the moment.
I'd be glad to hear any crazy suggestions as to what to add or change.
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I'll share with you the ones I like the most and would be happy if you use them :)



This one is for lulz

Lightyear8684Feb 26, 2011 12:56 PM
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I dislike the idea of making watching time competitive to begin with.

Still, if you're going to make a school days one, it would have to be:

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It's already too late for that since MAL has anime stats and everyone wants to enlarge their E- penises, so this wouldn't make much difference from the situation as it is now..I love the whole idea, it looks nice, but it could have negative effect as well..
Feb 27, 2011 7:26 AM

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Lightyear8684 said:
I'll share with you the ones I like the most and would be happy if you use them :)

Thank you for the chibis! :) Many look usable. I almost missed the pack you added later though.

saka said:
I dislike the idea of making watching time competitive to begin with.

You know, you've got a point there. I didn't realize levels would do this. But I agree. I just love statistics and like to pretend watching anime is useful ;). So I wanted to keep track.
But the whole penis thing is annoying me. I think you should watch anime for fun, not to level up.
So on second though, I'll try to think of something without levels. I'd still like a progress bar though. Hmm, this is gonna be complicated...

EDIT:
How about I keep it simple and forget about the progress bar like this:

Again, graphics are subject to change.
Instead of a level up, the chibi would change after every additional X days watched. But each user would have a different chibi order. So it would be a surprise.
Is that any good? Or maybe the chibi could just change at random?
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Maybe if you provide some disincentive, like giving a title at each major step that sounds increasingly depraved.... like "user is not getting enough exercise" -> "user has no life" -> 'user is a sad lump of NEET flesh' -> 'user masturbates to anime figures'..... perhaps not but something along those lines bwahaha. :D

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saka:
:D sounds fun
a chibi doctor/nurse character saying diagnosis:<what you sugested>
as the time progresses the chibi would keep getting a more and more concerned facial expression

just an idea, I'm not serious about this :D
Feb 27, 2011 1:28 PM

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I like the speech bubble idea and imo the chibi should change after every 24 hours of anime watched which is roughly 50ish eps.
Also try this this site for chibis, there's like 50 pages worth I think http://konachan.com/post?tags=chibi

Lol Saka, not everyone fits the otaku stereotype. However I think each image change should have a coment or joke related to anime next to the stats.

Maybe it's just because I havn't gone out much into the MAL forums, but most people here don't seem to care about e-penises but a different way to show the progress bar would be to title it "xxx more to next chibi"?
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EDIT: Update, see http://packet.wtf.la/ for newest information

This has been a busy week for me. I'm back at school for the moment, so I don't have much time for other stuff :-/
Nevertheless, today I decided to ignore my study duties and worked on the tracker instead.

Here is the result:


I combined some ideas you guys gave me. Thanks.

So, this is how it works:
You can get your own tracker thingy at http://packet.wtf.la/tracker/fancy/?usr=YOUR_USERNAME
The little bar indicates progress to the next chibi and anime quote.
When it reaches the other end, your chibi and quote will change. (Currently, the whole bar is about two days 12 hours of watching anime) The good thing is the bar doesn't slow down like it did in the old version.

Every user has their own sequence of chibis. For instance if you and your friend have both seen 2 days of anime, you will (probably) get different chibis and quotes.

Right now there are 11 chibis that Lightyear8684 gave me. (Thanks again) I will add more later.

I got most of the quotes from some website. Currently, there is about 100 of them. More will be added. Thank you saka for inspiring me with your "disincentive" tip.

This is not quite finished yet. I need add a glow/outline to the text so it will be visible on a dark background for instance.

I wold like to hear from you if there is anything you would like to change. For instance:
Should the quote change more often? (perhaps every day or two, no matter how much anime has been watched)
Is there something you would change about the design?
Did you discover a bug?
Should the chibi change more often.
Is the font readable.
Is the size OK?
etc... etc....

Also, you can keep sending me quotes and chibis that could be added if you have some.
There is a small problem connected with this though. Every time I add/remove a quote or a chibi everyones quote/chibi will change. This problem is caused by the way the script generates a unique sequence for each user, but I might come up with a workaround.
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I would be very interested in trying this, however i don't know how you guys got the URL to display anything in the signature. Also, am I able to put my tracker on other forums as well?

sorry for the noob question. XD
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RamenPoodle said:
I would be very interested in trying this, however i don't know how you guys got the URL to display anything in the signature. Also, am I able to put my tracker on other forums as well?


Sure, you can use the tracker anywhere on the internet. But what are you talking about?
I see, that your tracker *is* working: http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/member.php/1014-RamenPoodle
I mean, I see your tracker there, don't you?
This is your picture URL: http://packet.wtf.la/newGen/?usr=RamenPoodle
Mar 7, 2011 8:55 AM

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yeah, i got it working shortly after i posted. Sorry! :D
Mar 7, 2011 9:16 AM

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i am getting this error
ERROR can't write to cache

its awesome . you are great :)
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mastersquall said:
i am getting this error
ERROR can't write to cache

yeah, I'm sorry about that
that was a bug
It's fixed now, nevertheless

mastersquall said:
its awesome . you are great :)

thanks :)
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I'd like to ask for one thing, since I'd like to add that Total time spent signature on other websites as well, is there anyway to generate a different code, since when I use on other websites picture doesn't show, maybe because there scripts aren't supported, is there any way to make [url][/img] code one or something?
Mar 7, 2011 4:19 PM

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looks cool...thanks for doing this :)
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*cleaned up some of the double posts, lag sucks*

@Lightyear8684: the standard way in bbcode would be something like:

[img]http://packet.wtf.la/?usr=Lightyear8684&width=600[/img]

some sites use different bbcode for images though.... like [img=http://...] in a single tag. The above is what works on mal, and is the most common on other sites as well.

It's also possible that the other site (incorrectly) assumes the url is not an image because it doesn't end in (.jpg|.gif|.png) or something. It should be possible (for packet) to use apache to put up some redirects/rewrites to fake the extension. What was the other forum you were trying to use it on?

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Mar 7, 2011 6:13 PM

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nice idea and well done. I liked adding chibis and quotes.
about changes, maybe quote should change more often (since you have more quotes than chibis anyway). different fonts/background colors for every user would be cool, but I suppose that's too much work (I know nothing about such things, so don't mind this feedback)
Mar 7, 2011 9:29 PM

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:D I got Fuko on first go! Unfortunately MAL bug still hasn't been fixed T^T
Also do you have any K-On! chibis?
Mar 7, 2011 10:08 PM

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Lightyear8684 said:
I'd like to ask for one thing, since I'd like to add that Total time spent signature on other websites as well, is there anyway to generate a different code, since when I use on other websites picture doesn't show, maybe because there scripts aren't supported, is there any way to make [url][/img] code one or something?


Well that depends on the website. Would you post a link? I'll check what code they use.
If bbcode doesn't work there:
[ img]http://packet.wtf.la/newGen/?usr=Lightyear8684[ /img]
(the spaces in [ img] and [ /img] must be removed)

It probably needs HTML:
<img src="http://packet.wtf.la/newGen/?usr=Lightyear8684">;
(don't copy the ';')


I didn't think of making a generator of this, because the only thing that ever chages is the usr=XXX part. But if you insist I'll make one...
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packet said:
Lightyear8684 said:
I'd like to ask for one thing, since I'd like to add that Total time spent signature on other websites as well, is there anyway to generate a different code, since when I use on other websites picture doesn't show, maybe because there scripts aren't supported, is there any way to make [url][/img] code one or something?


Well that depends on the website. Would you post a link? I'll check what code they use.
If bbcode doesn't work there:
<pre><pre>[ img]http://packet.wtf.la/newGen/?usr=Lightyear8684[ /img]
(the spaces in [ img] and [ /img] must be removed)

It probably needs HTML:
<pre><pre><img src="http://packet.wtf.la/newGen/?usr=Lightyear8684">;
(don't copy the ';')


I didn't think of making a generator of this, because the only thing that ever chages is the usr=XXX part. But if you insist I'll make one...


I'd like to give you link, but you can't surf through that site without an invitation (it's basically a torrent tracker) , but without invitation all you can do is view main page :x and they allow BBCODE it's just when I use it, it's just shows the whole code, not the picture itself..
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Interesting. I tried it out and it looks good.
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inspired said:
maybe quote should change more often (since you have more quotes than chibis anyway).

I agree. I'll change that.

inspired said:
different fonts/background colors for every user would be cool

So far I haven't found another font I like so if you know about one, please send it to me (or just the name)
The background is transparent so there is no color to change. However, I might add an option to change the color of the progress bar/quotes.

Lightyear8684 said:
I'd like to give you link, but you can't surf through that site without an invitation (it's basically a torrent tracker) Linkomanija.net , but without invitation all you can do is view main page :x and they allow BBCODE it's just when I use it, it's just shows the whole code, not the picture itself..


Umm, try putting another picture in your signature. Any ordinary png picture like this one: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bc/Wiki.png
Does it work? If it does, then saka is probably right and I'll implement the rewrite thing.
If it does not work I think you shold probably ask around that forum for help.

TheResistance said:
Unfortunately MAL bug still hasn't been fixed T^T

Well that sucks. It doesn't seem they'll fix it any time soon.
However, I noticed that when you click on "more" next to an anime entry in your list it shows correct values.
For instance: Bamboo blade - Time Spent Watching: 10 hours, 37 minutes, and 0 seconds

I could have the script use this as a source of data. But I'm not sure if Xinil would be happy about that. Maybe if I used a persistent HTTP connection (and of course used caching) it wouldn't put so much load on the server. Maybe I'll just try that and let myself be surprised if I get banned for DoSing the server :D
I wish there was an API function for the total time spent. Maybe I'll try posting in the feature request subforum.

TheResistance said:
Also do you have any K-On! chibis?

No, not yet but I have some pending. If you want a particular, send it. (of course you'll have to wait for it to appear)

BTW: I noticed some chibis get cropped. I'll make the tracker wider so they fit.

PS: If you feel like you won't get to see many chibis because they don't change often enough tell me.
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packet said:
I could have the script use this as a source of data. But I'm not sure if Xinil would be happy about that. Maybe if I used a persistent HTTP connection (and of course used caching) it wouldn't put so much load on the server. Maybe I'll just try that and let myself be surprised if I get banned for DoSing the server :D
Don't especially right now.... mal has been really overloaded since the weekend (as you surely noticed). They're working on fixing the database lag atm, and maybe after that Xinil can fix stats up a bit.

I can't even say it will be soon.... but hopefully in the next month or so.

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saka said:
Don't especially right now

OK, I understand, I won't.
Mar 8, 2011 10:31 AM

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one more question . can i use old time spent which you have in you siggy still ?
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mastersquall said:
one more question . can i use old time spent which you have in you siggy still ?

Sure, and let me know if you'd like a particular set of colors better.
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packet said:
mastersquall said:
one more question . can i use old time spent which you have in you siggy still ?

Sure, and let me know if you'd like a particular set of colors better.


I tried wikpedia.png one and it works just fine, I guess it doesn't show because there is no .png/.jpg ending at the link?
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Lightyear8684 said:
I tried wikpedia.png one and it works just fine, I guess it doesn't show because there is no .png/.jpg ending at the link?


OK, it really seems so. Just try one last thing before I add support for .png.
Try putting this picture in your signature: http://packet.wtf.la/lightYear.png
It's not dynamic - it won't change, I just saved it like this for testing purposes. I just want to make sure once I set up rewrite that forum won't have problems with pics from my domain.
Let me know if it works.


In other news:
Added 15 new chibis mostly from the chibi pack Lightyear8684 sent.
TheResistance: three are from K-On
That makes 27 chibis total. Would you like a list somewhere or rather be surprised?
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i have a question so i already got my url but how do i put it in the signature page under edit profile
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packet said:

In other news:
Added 15 new chibis mostly from the chibi pack Lightyear8684 sent.
TheResistance: three are from K-On
That makes 27 chibis total. Would you like a list somewhere or rather be surprised?


List please~
Also is there anyway we can choose our own personal chibis? What if we get a chibi we don't like? Watch non stop till it changes lol?
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TheResistance said:
List please~
Also is there anyway we can choose our own personal chibis? What if we get a chibi we don't like? Watch non stop till it changes lol?


Here you go:
http://packet.wtf.la/newGen/chibis/

About choosing:
what you are suggesting is pretty complicated
I'll be adding other things first.
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packet said:
Lightyear8684 said:
I tried wikpedia.png one and it works just fine, I guess it doesn't show because there is no .png/.jpg ending at the link?


OK, it really seems so. Just try one last thing before I add support for .png.
Try putting this picture in your signature: http://packet.wtf.la/lightYear.png
It's not dynamic - it won't change, I just saved it like this for testing purposes. I just want to make sure once I set up rewrite that forum won't have problems with pics from my domain.
Let me know if it works.


In other news:
Added 15 new chibis mostly from the chibi pack Lightyear8684 sent.
TheResistance: three are from K-On
That makes 27 chibis total. Would you like a list somewhere or rather be surprised?


Done~, .png picture works just fine
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Lightyear8684 said:
Done~, .png picture works just fine

OK, that settles it. I set up a rewrite. From now on you can get your trackers (also) at http://packet.wtf.la/newGen/YOUR_USER_NAME.png

Lightyear8684, let me know if it works now.

And saka, thank you. I would have never figured this out myself.
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packet said:
Lightyear8684 said:
Done~, .png picture works just fine

OK, that settles it. I set up a rewrite. From now on you can get your trackers (also) at http://packet.wtf.la/newGen/YOUR_USER_NAME.png

Lightyear8684, let me know if it works now.

And saka, thank you. I would have never figured this out myself.


tested, it works just fine, really appreciated, now I can use it on other websites :)
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How far is this accurate to my anime list?
cause mine from anime-planet shows 1 week 5 days.

while this shows me 1 month 3 weeks.
now i know that anime-planet doesnt count the 'rewatch' but does that affect it soo much?
maybe my list is still a bit bugged cause i edited and removed some series and rewatch values and they might be still in the system.
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I'm certain that my bar stopped moving a few days ago, even though MAL itself updated just fine. Anyone else having that problem?

EDIT: It seems to be fixed now
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RamenPoodle said:
I'm certain that my bar stopped moving a few days ago, even though MAL itself updated just fine. Anyone else having that problem?

Are you sure?
I checked.
Your profile shows 76.7 days.
When I multiply that by 24*60 i get 110448 minutes. The same number is in your cache file.
Your tracker shows 48 mins | 16 hrs | 6 days | 2 weeks | 2 months | 0 years
Again, when I add that up I get 110448 minutes.

Perhaps you have the picture cached somewhere?
Try going to http://www.hidemyass.com and enter
http://packet.wtf.la/newGen/RamenPoodle.png (use the .png form)

Do you see the same picture as normally? If not you have it cached somewhere.

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i have a question so i already got my url but how do i put it in the signature page under edit profile

Go to "Forum options", then find "Signature". Add bbcode. That is [ img]YOUR_URL_HERE[ /img] (don't copy the spaces in the img tags)

Leonard93 said:
How far is this accurate to my anime list?

Again, I have no idea how MAL counts the time spent. Ask an adimin or mod.
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Hopefully this works

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how long does it take chibis and anime quote to change ?
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Does the picture constantly change? When I first got mine it was a pink-haired girl and then it changed to another pic and hasn't changed at all since then.
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FIXED, next time you can just post the links. You don't have to put them in URL tags. That happens automatically.
I'll add a few of them, but there already is a lot of K-On, so maybe not those. How would you use the group picture? Is that posted just for lulz, or do you have some idea?

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how long does it take chibis and anime quote to change ?

ATM It's both after 12 hrs of anime. But I'll change this. Soon hopefully. I'd like the quote change based on episode count.

Also, I'll finally drop minutes from the counter and replace them with episode count. Both don't fit. Do you like that idea?

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Does the picture constantly change? When I first got mine it was a pink-haired girl and then it changed to another pic and hasn't changed at all since then.

Currently, whenever I add new chibis, everyones chibi randomly changes. I did it once so far. So that's why your changed. But it does not change constantly. I will fix this before adding any new chibis. (hopefully)
BTW, AlexSadist-sama: Check out our anime compatibility - 81%. So far I haven't found anyone with whom I have a higher one.
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packet said:


mastersquall said:
how long does it take chibis and anime quote to change ?

ATM It's both after 12 hrs of anime. But I'll change this. Soon hopefully. I'd like the quote change based on episode count.

Also, I'll finally drop minutes from the counter and replace them with episode count. Both don't fit. Do you like that idea?


i think episode idea is new one . i like that idea . also my anime quote and chibi hasn't changed at all even after 5days .
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I changed the source of data from peoples profile pages to the "Unofficial MAL API". I wonder where they get the data themselves. Must have direct access to MAL's database.
Anyway, this API provides watched episode count so I implemented that.

I replaced "minutes" with "episodes" in the speech bubble. Do you think it's a change for the better or worse?
To be honest I didn't quite know where to put the "episodes". There isn't much room.
You may notice that the episode count shown is different from the one that shows at the bottom of your list. I'm not sure what exactly is going on but I suspect a MAL bug. For instance when I manually add up the episodes count in my completed section the result is different from what MAL shows in the footer.
The quote and chibi change still happen the old way for now.

I'm not liking the readability of the text. Shouldn't we get another font?

Next thing I'll do will be making the quotes change based on ep count. How many eps per quote would you set?
But for the moment I've gotta stop using the computer. My RSI is getting worse :( .
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it does look good i just notice now . but wait for others reply .
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Quick update:

    - all chibis fit now, I made the banner wider
    - quote and progress bar color now changes randomly each time the tracker is displayed
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How does the episode count work? Would it count 12 2 minute skits as 12 eps? Also what about movies and yea group pic was for lolz :)
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packet said:
AlexSadist-sama said:
Does the picture constantly change? When I first got mine it was a pink-haired girl and then it changed to another pic and hasn't changed at all since then.

Currently, whenever I add new chibis, everyones chibi randomly changes. I did it once so far. So that's why your changed. But it does not change constantly. I will fix this before adding any new chibis. (hopefully)


Right, I see.

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BTW, AlexSadist-sama: Check out our anime compatibility - 81%. So far I haven't found anyone with whom I have a higher one.


Well, that's good then.
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How does the counting work? Because It says that I spent 2 months on anime, does it mean I spent so many hours on anime, or it says for how long I am watching anime? If it's latter one, then it's obviously wrong... Anyway love the chibi and quote xD Hope it works by counting minutes and hours spent to watch everything what I have in the completed list.
p.s. Sometimes I watch anime and update mal after a month or etc? For example now I am watching one piece and I think it says episode 250~ something but now Im on episode 380~ and already more than one month passed, so does it affect tracker?
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