| Look bro. I'm gonna keep this thread civil, but it has to be said. For the last year or so, you've slowly started caring less and less about the site. Prevailing issues keep piling up, the server keeps breaking down, people ask for the same things to be fixed over and over on your profile and you do nothing. You're one man with ftp server access to an entire active website that doesn't work properly because you neglect it. Adding another, SINGLE server is not going to cause MYSQL problems that are abundant due to bad backend site coding. That doesn't fix anything at all. It just is a lazy response to a serious issue that honestly didn't solve anything. I mean, if you ARE working on like, MAL 2.0 or something, which I HIGHLY doubt, atleast tell us, HELL tell us in THIS thread. But this has gotten to be a bit out of hand. Various parts of the site don't work. Posting doesn't work frequently. The site times out. Avatars don't upload properly. There's no off site avatar support despite it being heavily asked for forever. The forum software sucks and needs to be replaced. It's boring and I can't help but stress the fact that creating your own forum software as a good idea, but with how active it is now you cannot expect it to honestly work properly with all this traffic. Various ares of the site are disabled in some respects. The moderation is slim, thinned out, and varies in rules and respect. Nothing about the site is good anymore. It's complete shit. GD knows it, Spam knows it, and the only people who are going to post in this thread and disagree with me are those who don't actively use the site or hardly post. So what is it going to be Xinil? Are you going to fix the site, or are you really just letting the site rot away? So here's the suggestion. Give FTP Access and hand over control of the site to someone who's got some kind of degree in Webdesign, and actually knows PHP, Java, HTML, etc on a Mastered level. Because it's not working out with you anymore. |
ABigChungusMay 24, 2010 8:04 AM
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| Totally agree. |
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LolitaDecay said: Totally agree. Question is though, how many other people will? More importantly, I want to see Xinil's response to this. |
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| I'll be surprised if xinil actually responds |
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warui_ne said: Whole forum is looking at him now regardless.I'll be surprised if xinil actually responds |
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| Hes not going to read this,and if he does its not going to change anything im sure he has gotten hundreds of messages regarding MAL,and reads maybe 1 or 2 for comedic value |
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Yaranaikags said: Hes not going to read this,and if he does its not going to change anything im sure he has gotten hundreds of messages regarding MAL,and reads maybe 1 or 2 for comedic value we'll see |
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| Whatever "concern" he has for the site is how much money it makes(made) him. Do you honestly think he could care less about the Forums,let alone Spam's view regarding the issue? |
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Yaranaikags said: Whatever "concern" he has for the site is how much money it makes(made) him. Do you honestly think he could care less about the Forums,let alone Spam's view regarding the issue? No shit. he took the money and left it here. I've "HEARD" he's working on the site, but... i'm not seeing it, and there's been no word from him about it at all |
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| Have to admit, the lack of once frequent announcements is kinda disconcerting. |
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| Agreed wholeheartedly. |
LolitaDecay said: Have to admit, the lack of once frequent announcements is kinda disconcerting. Yea, that's litearlly my main gripe. Tyestor said: Agreed wholeheartedly. Thanks. tehnominator said: I do recall when I first joined MAL, there was an issue with the forum. It's nearly been two years since that, and the issue was fixed, but other problems have popped up. I don't think you're going to get smooth sailing... ever. But I do appreciate the efforts being made, whenever they are made. As per fixing the site, I've washed my hands of making suggestions and offering help, since it's been rejected too many times before. I appreciate him doing stuff that works, but the last thing he did was change the site layout which pissed me off greatly and ruined many good mal themes. |
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| From someone who uses this site for several hours everyday, I've only ever experienced maybe two of your qualms a couple times. And as I've said before in another thread, depending on the specific issues, another server might actually cause the problems to be less frequent for you people that seem to have so many of them. Saying another server won't solve the problem generally speaks to inexperience on the part of the suggester. Unless the traffic is immense, a new server would do well towards ensuring MySQL errors (most likely from timeouts, though I haven't experienced more than two of them since arriving), general timeouts, and the phenomena with the forums (depending on how it was coded), don't happen as often, if at all. |
| I do hardly ever post however it's more related to the quality of the posts than it is to the problems. That being said I can imagine that people who DO post often or change avatars etc often would be bothered by this and it should be fixed. The times I do post and it bugs are a pain. Can't even begin to imagine what it's like for the really active members. I can't say much about the other things because I don't know too much about it myself. |
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divito said: From someone who uses this site for several hours everyday, I've only ever experienced maybe two of your qualms a couple times. And as I've said before in another thread, depending on the specific issues, another server might actually cause the problems to be less frequent for you people that seem to have so many of them. Saying another server won't solve the problem generally speaks to inexperience on the part of the suggester. Unless the traffic is immense, a new server would do well towards ensuring MySQL errors (most likely from timeouts, though I haven't experienced more than two of them since arriving), general timeouts, and the phenomena with the forums (depending on how it was coded), don't happen as often, if at all. Maybe thats because you're hear like a month? And also just cause you don't see these problems, doesn't mean they aren't there, cause 90% of the users do see them. Btw there was a server added a couple of months ago to solve the problem with these big and they did indeed disappear. Except this one lag a few day ago, but that wasn't a big issue. But these MySQL errors are here for quite some time and one of the biggest problems. So they should be solved first. The things with ava's and profile pictures isn't that important right now. People shouldn't cry just cause they don't see a new piture right after 2 seconds. Though it does bug me extremely that I have to refresh the page of a thread to see my post or edit almost everytime. |
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| Yess. And I haven't really thought about it since I've been so used to MAL acting dumb sometimes. But if anything can actually be done, well that'd be splendid. ♥ |
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| I haven't even been on MAL all that long and I know that the site is crappy. Unfortunately though, Xinil will never read this and continue to ignore suggestions to improve the site. |
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| I agree completely. These past two weeks specifically have been pretty bad for me with lag and this new problem that cropped up..advertisements that cause the page to just completely stop loading causing me to have to refresh over 10 times before it loads again.. (even though this has seemed to gone away For Now). I think the idea to hand the stick over to someone else who Knows what they are doing when it comes to web mastering or whatever and actually cares about doing it is a great idea. |
kinoholicMay 24, 2010 4:34 PM
| I agree to some respect. I mean I remember I used to be on alot but now a days it's like, "meh." :/ Not to mention I sometimes have problems with the Mod's in spam.....who the hell has to mod SPAM? It's there for a reason, so we can go there and just be open and free. If you're posting crap that gets the party van to your house, then yeah I can understand that. But other than that....yeah, no. |
| When I first joined MAL, the newly uploaded profile pics would instantly change. After some time though, they took about a day or two to show up. When posting in forums, sometimes I keep getting MySQL error. Maybe something is currently being worked on to fix the site's problems though. |
Yuruku said: Nobody hates you Xinil, so dont take it like we are. We love your brainchild. We want to be here for a long time. exactly |
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| I honestly think he doesn't care. He sold the site to Crave, so why should he really care if it rots away? He may be "managing" it, and I use the term loosely, but there's no development, no new features, nothing that should be happening on an ACTIVE WEB COMMUNITY. I mean for god's sake, I should at least be able to open this quick reply box without it stretching my screen when I'm already at 1440x900 resolution. Fuck, you want someone to do it FOR FREE? I would be happy to sift through your code, fix the broken SQL queries, optimize functions, correct CSS where needed and even develop new features. Why would I be willing to do this, you may ask? Because I don't want to see this site rotting into nothing, as it is. Nothing has changed since I joined this place, other than how it looks... sort of. You added a navigation that NO ONE asked for, and most people still hate. You keep adding new servers, but you just ignore all of the problems that your regular users have to deal with on an everyday basis. You don't even respond to the numerous complaints about them. Instead of actually FIXING the broken code that's resulted in a couple of problems, you added cheap solutions like the "fix inbox" button. It's just... crap, man. Seriously. And don't even GET ME STARTED on the moderation. I was IP banned from here without even knowing it or being warned or told what I did. If my bro Vipey hadn't found out for me, I'd still be banned. |
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| well said and now begins my campaign to annoy him till he replies to this hey xinil |
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HERPADERP said: well said and now begins my campaign to annoy him till he replies to this hey xinil That will only piss him off more. I know that you want him to read that (me too), but bugging him all the time and maybe even insulting him won't really make him do something quicker. It's hard though to just sit and wait, but thats all we can do about it, except someone posts a link to this thread in a comment on his profile and disguise it as something else etc. lol |
| This thread will wind up dying like all the other threads calling out Xinil to respond, at the very least we will get a mod who will tell you Xinil is busy (AKA gone forever) and that they are locking this thread for being "useless". (Regardless that the worse this site gets, the more people will make threads like this that will be locked/deleted again) |
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| Nah. if the thread gets like 10 pages, I'm sure he'll respond hey xinil hey xinil where are you? |
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HERPADERP said: Nah. if the thread gets like 10 pages, I'm sure he'll respond hey xinil hey xinil where are you? Why don't you take your case to CraveOnline/AtomicOnline, they own the place. Asking xinil to pass a torch he doesn't own, won't change a thing. |
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| Hi. I'm an extremely active user on MyAnimeList.net The current admin, Xinil, the person you purchased the site off of compeltely neglects the site entirely. To the point the site breaks down constantly, constant server issues, he ignores every users request, he's provided simple way outs for extensive back end problems such as a ghetto rigged inbox fix button, and various other things. He honestly does not care about the site one bit. If you view his profile on MAL, http://myanimelist.net/profile/Xinil - you will see that he constantly is asked to fix the site, but he does nothing, nothing at all. He doesn't reply to threads, even one that I myself created, Herpaderp, in the suggestion sub-forum: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=211276 Is there anything you can do on your end? Nobody wants him to lead the site anymore, the site has gone to complete shit. Why the hell would you buy this piece of crap? Please do something. Everyone nearly agrees with my thread I created, even the only active moderator on the site, there's a bunch of them, but only TWO actaully do their job. Asako and Boursk. This probably all means nothing to you, but ever since you bought this place, Xinil does absolutely nothing. My MAL Account: http://myanimelist.net/profile/HERPADERP Email sent. |
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| ^That Email, I don't even know what Xinil is going to do now... |
YupMay 25, 2010 9:37 AM
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Yup said: ^That Email, I don't even know what Xinil is going to do now... I also sent the email to AtomicOnline as well just now. Asako said: Sorry Asasko <3I deleted some double posts and particularly trivial replies (bumps?). Please actually contribute if you want to post here. |
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| I Don't mean to create a new post but I'm going to set this particular post as a listing for referals to threads asking for stuff to be fixed. I'll keep updating it. First set http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=208404 http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=205247 http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=210326 http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=211443 http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=209104 http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=208509 |
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Asako said: I take it this thread is not going to be deleted then?I deleted some double posts and particularly trivial replies (bumps?). Please actually contribute if you want to post here. |
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Yup said: Asako said: I take it this thread is not going to be deleted then?I deleted some double posts and particularly trivial replies (bumps?). Please actually contribute if you want to post here. It's a real suggestion so I see no reason too; as long as people stay civil and on topic. Whinging Xinil ignores everything is a bit harsh though. I'm fairly certain he does actually read suggestions periodically, if not regularly. He just doesn't reply as much as he used to, which I think is a bit of a shame as it leads to stuff like this. |
| He has replied to one of my messages to him complaining about a problem..of course the problem was never exactly fixed but I don't know.. I wouldn't say he completely ignores everything he just doesn't fix it or have the skill to fix it possibly. |
| First, let me say I understand everyone's concerns. It's a perfectly legitimate complaint. I haven't been very communicative with much of anyone over the past few months. This is indeed my fault. Now, that doesn't mean I don't visit the site daily. That doesn't mean I don't care about MAL. That doesn't mean I don't have fixes' waiting to be pushed to the site. That doesn't mean I don't read the dozens of PM's/comments/e-mails I get a day. With that being said, I'm currently working on a new backend structure for the anime/manga lists. They're a big hog on the databases and have been a nagging issue since the site first launched. The design isn't changing nor the CSS functionality for them, just a few usability things will change. I'm working on a registration filter for spammers (e-mail authentication). I also have some ideas to fix the silly stupid PM issues (65k messages in your inbox error, sigh). These are just a few of the changes I'm making, soon. TL;DR: Sorry I haven't been updating you guys. I'm still here. I didn't cash out and run. Oh, and my SQL queries are sound, K_N. There's nothing wrong with the queries themselves. We just don't have the greatest redundancy or concurrency to handle random MySQL fragmentation that causes these problems. Crave is working on it though, as I just spoke with them yesterday regarding the matter. Edit: Regarding the avatar/profile pictures issue. This has entirely to do with Crave's caching server. I've spent hours and hours with their techs trying to get this issue fixed. We haven't had much luck yet. |
| Thanks for the update, Xin. Much appreciated :3 |
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| First, I'd like to say that I am happy to see that someone finally made a thread which mixes up all the suggestions and bugs/problems this site has for past few months. And I'm also glad that Xinil is actually doing something to fix MAL. |
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| Thanks for the heads-up! |
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Xinil said: First, let me say I understand everyone's concerns. It's a perfectly legitimate complaint. I haven't been very communicative with much of anyone over the past few months. This is indeed my fault. Now, that doesn't mean I don't visit the site daily. That doesn't mean I don't care about MAL. That doesn't mean I don't have fixes' waiting to be pushed to the site. That doesn't mean I don't read the dozens of PM's/comments/e-mails I get a day. With that being said, I'm currently working on a new backend structure for the anime/manga lists. They're a big hog on the databases and have been a nagging issue since the site first launched. The design isn't changing nor the CSS functionality for them, just a few usability things will change. I'm working on a registration filter for spammers (e-mail authentication). I also have some ideas to fix the silly stupid PM issues (65k messages in your inbox error, sigh). These are just a few of the changes I'm making, soon. TL;DR: Sorry I haven't been updating you guys. I'm still here. I didn't cash out and run. Oh, and my SQL queries are sound, K_N. There's nothing wrong with the queries themselves. We just don't have the greatest redundancy or concurrency to handle random MySQL fragmentation that causes these problems. Crave is working on it though, as I just spoke with them yesterday regarding the matter. Edit: Regarding the avatar/profile pictures issue. This has entirely to do with Crave's caching server. I've spent hours and hours with their techs trying to get this issue fixed. We haven't had much luck yet. Dude this is the post we all really wanted. That's basically all what any of us wanted to hear lol. Anyway you know, what about the forum software? Personally I like the rest of the site, and never really cared for the forum, I'm only active on it because of the people. If there was a MAL clone with a different forum software, FML, I'd be on it all the time every second. Also that makes sense with the avatars. Seriously, if you're not intelligent with computers and don't know how to clear the cache in your browser, the avatars won't change unless you restart your computer lol. |
ABigChungusMay 25, 2010 4:11 PM
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Xinil said: First, let me say I understand everyone's concerns. It's a perfectly legitimate complaint. I haven't been very communicative with much of anyone over the past few months. This is indeed my fault. Now, that doesn't mean I don't visit the site daily. That doesn't mean I don't care about MAL. That doesn't mean I don't have fixes' waiting to be pushed to the site. That doesn't mean I don't read the dozens of PM's/comments/e-mails I get a day. With that being said, I'm currently working on a new backend structure for the anime/manga lists. They're a big hog on the databases and have been a nagging issue since the site first launched. The design isn't changing nor the CSS functionality for them, just a few usability things will change. I'm working on a registration filter for spammers (e-mail authentication). I also have some ideas to fix the silly stupid PM issues (65k messages in your inbox error, sigh). These are just a few of the changes I'm making, soon. TL;DR: Sorry I haven't been updating you guys. I'm still here. I didn't cash out and run. Oh, and my SQL queries are sound, K_N. There's nothing wrong with the queries themselves. We just don't have the greatest redundancy or concurrency to handle random MySQL fragmentation that causes these problems. Crave is working on it though, as I just spoke with them yesterday regarding the matter. Edit: Regarding the avatar/profile pictures issue. This has entirely to do with Crave's caching server. I've spent hours and hours with their techs trying to get this issue fixed. We haven't had much luck yet. THANK YOU. Now, why don't you switch to PostgreSQL? It's a hell of a lot more stable, and you wouldn't have to change the queries themselves, just the functions that call them. MySQL to PostrgreSQL database transition is easily done as well. As for redundancy, why don't you switch to a cloud architecture for your server structure? Amazon's S3 solution is very affordable (you only pay for what you use) and even facebook uses it. As for the caching server... stop using one for images. All modern browsers support image and script caching. There's no reason for such a thing to exist. A few extra direct calls to your CDN isn't going to hurt bandwidth, given the size of images allowed. Oh, and I'm glad to hear you're working on Lists. Now THAT is a viable usage for a cache server. Cause as far as I can tell, we're querying the database every single time we load an anime or manga list. |
"if the show is good i couldn't care less if hitler directed it and the production values was a banana." - Salsk |
| Fix the avatar problem by putting a limitation on the amount of times people can change their avatar in a certain span of time. Other than a few burps nothing is all that wrong with the site. Except moderation, it could use some work. |
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kitkatbar said: Or you could just put a note next where you change your avatar, have it say: "May take awhile, at least a day, before it changes properly."Fix the avatar problem by putting a limitation on the amount of times people can change their avatar in a certain span of time. Other than a few burps nothing is all that wrong with the site. Except moderation, it could use some work. |
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| But then people will continue to attempt to upload an avatar not realizing that multiple uploads do not expedite the process. |
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| dont know much about the backend stuff of MAL. but honestly, this site being the size it is right now... if it's still a one-man operation, it's cause for worry.. i dont really care to comment on the site's marketing or various ways it has for making money, but the site has unlimited potential and it's a waste if it doesnt have a full crew of stuff working on it. so whatever it is you need to do to the site to make it be able to support itself (i dont know, ads, donations... whatever all those other bigshot sites do)... do it.. because this site has a big enough audience to be able to be much bigger than most of those other websites that have full-time paid staff working on them. some of the bugs this site has are an absolute joke.. that should be able to be resolved by a professional web-designer/database specialist in like a few hours.. think of it in terms of facebook before and after it opened up to the general public (as opposed to being only for college students)... that's what needs to happen here.. right now this is the facebook before it opened up... where it needs to go is facebook after it opened up.. (however, i dont mean make it into a shitty app ridden, privacy-violating, moneysucking pit of despair that facebook now is... i just mean in terms of the difference of scale) |
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