The script is written by the same guy who made Re:ZERO and Vivy

fancyjasper said:
I was pretty interested in this until I saw he was the writer. I really didn't enjoy Re:Zero's writing at all. I'll still check this out though, maybe he'll put out something better this time around.

fancyjasper said:
I was pretty interested in this until I saw he was the writer. I really didn't enjoy Re:Zero's writing at all. I'll still check this out though, maybe he'll put out something better this time around.

fancyjasper said:
I was pretty interested in this until I saw he was the writer. I really didn't enjoy Re:Zero's writing at all. I'll still check this out though, maybe he'll put out something better this time around.

ApplePieHunter said:
The script is written by the same guy who made Re:ZERO

fancyjasper said:
I was pretty interested in this until I saw he was the writer. I really didn't enjoy Re:Zero's writing at all. I'll still check this out though, maybe he'll put out something better this time around.

ZXEAN said:
Have you watched Vivy then ?

fancyjasper said:
I was pretty interested in this until I saw he was the writer. I really didn't enjoy Re:Zero's writing at all. I'll still check this out though, maybe he'll put out something better this time around.

APolygons2 said:
hmmm.... I'm not the biggest fan of rezero, and the biggest reason for it is the writing...

BUT. I know that people say the light novels, which are the main thing the author has written have far better writing.

and vivy despite it's simplicity and glaring time travel plot holes, was actually really good.

so with this being a more simple story than both of those. I think he can pull it off.

Okeanix said:
Except the fact Re:Zero is easily the best written japanese fiction and nothing even close to it.

Improve your tastes.

fancyjasper said:
Damn you even commented on my profile about this. To repeat myself again. I'm sorry I don't like your fave thing and I hope you can recover from that trauma m(＿＿)m 

jvdhvj5 said:
sakoto pfp and Rika pfp fighting lmao

Okeanix said:
Except the fact Re:Zero is easily the best written japanese fiction and nothing even close to it.

Improve your tastes.

APolygons2 said:
do you have nothing better to do?

I feel like you are some magical rezero genie, every time the name rezero is brought up you appear out of nowhere to sing it's praises.

like body, pal, friend, do realize that you are acting like an elitist dumbass. there is no such a thing as "the best written" or "the best". there are too many factors one story to be the best. 


I could argue with you on why you're wrong on rezero being even close to that, but someone as obsessed and as elitist as you will never listen to others, so It would be a complete waste of time.

Okeanix said:
You like Stone Ocean, I don't think you can comprehend Re:Zero in any aspect.

Re:Zero is the best because pretty much it is also best in every genre from Mystery to Thriller to Dark Fantasy, there is no anime & manga better than Re:Zero in many aspects. This alone makes Re:Zero the best LN and best Japanese fiction. Since it's already excellent in almost every category.

APolygons2 said:
"can't comprehend rezero"

lmao, my dude, it's not that deep of a show, the themes and ideas that it's trying to portray are fairly easy to grasp. and since I do like the series, I have seen my fair share of super fans analysis videos on. 

not that a show needs to be super deep to be a 10/10. I'm just saying you look stupid when you keep telling others they don't like rezero because they "don't comprehend it".

you are obsessed my man, I have my favourites and shows that I consider the best, but I don't act this obsessed about them.

Okeanix said:
Explain to me how it is not 10/10.

I'm waiting.

Also what you comprehend about Re:Zero is barely the surface.

APolygons2 said:


the anime:

too many info dumps. anime is a visual medium, and having long ass exposition scenes of just 2 characters talking, specially when used for world building is a flaw. it works in a book, but in an animated form it's very jarring.

the characters talk way too much about how they feel. I get it, you rezero fans love this, but this is a thing called subtext. you don't need every single character to have 10+ minute of talking about their feelings straight. I understand why you like it, I understand why it works for some. but it's just lazy. again, it's something that would work a lot better in a written form, but in an anime, it just doesn't work nearly as well.

too many unexplained details in the anime. the magic system is barely explained. and I still don't know what that blue crystal in s2 was suppose to be. it's a key, but it's also a summon stone, but it's also a teleporter, wtf?

I asked the rezero reddit, and was told it's just a tone filled with magic, which doesn't even explain why it was the key mind you. but I am sure all of these are probably explained in the LN. 

plot armour. 

rezero has time leap, so it's use of plot armour is not noticeable to some (outside of s2 p2), but here's the deal. in rezero, always, everything either goes, perfectly, or terribly. the only time the show broke this rule, was at the start of s2 when rem and the others got attacked without subaru knowing.

in the almost 50 episodes of the show filled with death, that was the one and only time the plot armour of 0 or 100 didn't exist. which was good, but I don't think it's enough. I don't buy it. s2 p2 was a mistake by the author, because without the time leap, it is dreadfully obvious how thicc the plot armour is. 

the animation is good, but for an action fantasy, I would need a little more to call it a masterpiece, unless, just like you, I thought the story is peak fiction, which I don't.

I also think the fact that the entire world is written around subaru, is so fucking lazy. if you actually know his character progression, it's super obvious how every arc, side character, and event is specifically designed around subaru's character arc. he doesn't grow because of the story, the entire story and all of it's element revolve around that growth happening, which I think is a terrible way of writing your world and characters, but whatever.


I will end this by saying what I like though.

despite all that I said, I do really like rezero. at some point i had given it a 9/10 and had subaru in my top 10. after many discussions and rewatch, I changed my opinion critically, but I still personally really like it.

the world is super interesting and well thought out.

the themes are clever, and I adore what the author was trying to do with subaru's characters arc.

the soundtrack is fucking amazing.

the character designs are great.

and I absolutely some of the fight progressions.



I don't expect you to agree with me. you don't need to. but understand that your perspective is not more valuable than others. actually listen, learn why the shows you hate are beloved. and learn why some people dislike the shows you love. 

if you learn how to do that, you will end up enjoying a lot more shows.

If like you I acted like my favourite anime "which is steins;gate" is better than everything else, no question, and didn't try to understand the appeal of other shows. I would, just like you have only 1 show that I got a 10/10 out of. which i think is just sad.

there are so many great stories, it's a shame to pick one as your golden standard, and then convince yourself nothing can reach it.

too many info dumps. anime is a visual medium, and having long ass exposition scenes of just 2 characters talking, specially when used for world building is a flaw. it works in a book, but in an animated form it's very jarring.

the characters talk way too much about how they feel. I get it, you rezero fans love this, but this is a thing called subtext. you don't need every single character to have 10+ minute of talking about their feelings straight. I understand why you like it, I understand why it works for some. but it's just lazy. again, it's something that would work a lot better in a written form, but in an anime, it just doesn't work nearly as well.

too many unexplained details in the anime. the magic system is barely explained. and I still don't know what that blue crystal in s2 was suppose to be. it's a key, but it's also a summon stone, but it's also a teleporter, wtf?
I asked the rezero reddit, and was told it's just a tone filled with magic, which doesn't even explain why it was the key mind you. but I am sure all of these are probably explained in the LN.

plot armour. 
rezero has time leap, so it's use of plot armour is not noticeable to some (outside of s2 p2), but here's the deal. in rezero, always, everything either goes, perfectly, or terribly. the only time the show broke this rule, was at the start of s2 when rem and the others got attacked without subaru knowing.
in the almost 50 episodes of the show filled with death, that was the one and only time the plot armour of 0 or 100 didn't exist. which was good, but I don't think it's enough. I don't buy it. s2 p2 was a mistake by the author, because without the time leap, it is dreadfully obvious how thicc the plot armour is.

e animation is good, but for an action fantasy, I would need a little more to call it a masterpiece, unless, just like you, I thought the story is peak fiction, which I don't.

I also think the fact that the entire world is written around subaru, is so fucking lazy. if you actually know his character progression, it's super obvious how every arc, side character, and event is septically designed around subaru's character arc. he doesn't grow because of the story, the entire story and all of it's element revolve around that growth happening, which I think is a terrible way of writing your world and characters, but whatever.

actually listen, learn why the shows you hate are beloved. and learn why some people dislike the shows you love.

Okeanix said:
Pretty much the entire thing you wrote about the series is wrong, you don't understand Re:Zero and influenced by 30 IQ re:zero haters fake ideas.
False Re:Zero is often criticized by novel readers because it doesn't do infodump and entirely set it to subtext. What you call infodump is not even barely the surface of what the novel has. It has a tremendous amount of cut content yet you still think it is "INFO DUMP" lmao? I'm sorry it is deeper than any garbage anime you watch, it is not my problem. And i can't even find remotely close to same as depth Re:Zero. Please recommend anime even has half-depth Re:Zero.
Most of the things in Re:Zero anime is sub-texts and you can only understand them after a couple of re-watches and analysis of other people. But you will still miss details that will be revealed in future seasons. There is literally no infodumps, it literally lacks infodumps.
It is not a action shounen anime, they try to solve problems which solvable by talking. Did you saw Subaru trying to convince Elsa or something? You don't.
I'm sorry for you if Re:Zero cast is too deep for any anime you watch, since you don't care about the series and the characters it became boring to you while it is super fun to us. Do you want anime to remove all the character motivations and only give you bland action? You are showing you have bad taste and shouldn't have an opinion on any anime. Again as I mentioned before only in S2P2 there is too much character dialogue between multiple characters, even in S1 and S2P1 there is a lot of subtext behind characters that don't truly speak of their true feelings except Subaru. For example, do you understand Rem's character? I don't think so.
You were crying about infodumps now you crying it didn't give you infodump? Don't you contradict yourself?
Re:Zero does not need to explain magic system in details, it already explained to Subaru in small depth in Arc 2 Mansion by Puck. Where Subaru learned Shamac by using Yin Magic. Since this is not infodump like i proved with this, you only learn what Subaru learns. There is very rich power system & world and lore in Re:Zero but you don't need to know them before Subaru learns it (except side stories maybe if they animated aswell in future) Even in IF Routes you get tons of worldbuilding and other stuff about power system.
You are talking about "Pyroxene Crystal" which is here, effects already shown in anime it doesn't need to infodump to you again.
https://rezero.fandom.com/wiki/Terminology (made in abyss world compared to this is kindergarten project)
 
This is where you show you don't understand the 50 Episodes storyline
Everything that gone perfect or bad is perfectly explained by characters motivations. Therefore Subaru has no plot armor in 50 Episodes, not even single coincidence, inconsistency, plot hole aswell.
This is proof of masterpiece writing where you can write something so perfect without holes in a fantasy world with a time leap and tons of other concepts. 
Re:Zero is not action fantasy.
It is seinen dark fantasy psychological thriller with tons of mystery and drama. Best in all novels not just japanese in those categories. Action is only secondary.
Animation can be better but I'm not defending animation but the writing.
I explained in the spoiler above. It doesn't revolve around Subaru like a world made for him, other characters force Subaru into that situation. There are other things happening in other kingdoms. You only see Emilia Camp perspective in the series.

Don't worry I'm aware of every criticism made for Re:Zero on the entire internet and that only made me love the series even more because I saw how stupid the criticisms are and just simply wrong.

30 IQ re:zero haters fake ideas.

You were crying about infodumps now you crying it didn't give you infodump? Don't you contradict yourself?

Okeanix69473058It is not a action shounen anime, they try to solve problems which solvable by talking. Did you saw Subaru trying to convince Elsa or something? You don't.
I'm sorry for you if Re:Zero cast is too deep for any anime you watch, since you don't care about the series and the characters it became boring to you while it is super fun to us. Do you want anime to remove all the character motivations and only give you bland action? You are showing you have bad taste and shouldn't have an opinion on any anime. Again as I mentioned before only in S2P2 there is too much character dialogue between multiple characters, even in S1 and S2P1 there is a lot of subtext behind characters that don't truly speak of their true feelings except Subaru. For example, do you understand Rem's character? I don't think so.

APolygons2 said:

too many info dumps. anime is a visual medium, and having long ass exposition scenes of just 2 characters talking, specially when used for world building is a flaw. it works in a book, but in an animated form it's very jarring.

the characters talk way too much about how they feel. I get it, you rezero fans love this, but this is a thing called subtext. you don't need every single character to have 10+ minute of talking about their feelings straight. I understand why you like it, I understand why it works for some. but it's just lazy. again, it's something that would work a lot better in a written form, but in an anime, it just doesn't work nearly as well.

APolygons2 said:

too many unexplained details in the anime. the magic system is barely explained. and I still don't know what that blue crystal in s2 was suppose to be. it's a key, but it's also a summon stone, but it's also a teleporter, wtf?

APolygons2 said:

rezero has time leap, so it's use of plot armour is not noticeable to some (outside of s2 p2), but here's the deal. in rezero, always, everything either goes, perfectly, or terribly. the only time the show broke this rule, was at the start of s2 when rem and the others got attacked without subaru knowing.

APolygons2 said:

I also think the fact that the entire world is written around subaru, is so fucking lazy. if you actually know his character progression, it's super obvious how every arc, side character, and event is specifically designed around subaru's character arc. he doesn't grow because of the story, the entire story and all of it's element revolve around that growth happening, which I think is a terrible way of writing your world and characters, but whatever.

JeXxTaR said:
I think this is an unfair criticism, characters like Ryuzu, Echidna and Roswaal(in season 2) literally all they can do is talk, and Subaru's main objective every arc is to gain as much information as he can before he dies and use that information to save everyone.

Re:zero is a psychological thriller but it has A LOT of mysteries, it makes sense that the revelations about the characters and the world are usually the most exciting parts of re:zero.

JeXxTaR said:
Puck already explained the magic system in season 1.

It's just a small mana crystal which is able to store souls, spirits and fragments of one's Od, and it can be used as a means of containing and controlling magical algorithms that generate spells that let you pass into places that are otherwise very difficult or impossible due to powerful barriers, which is also why it works as a key and teleportation device.

JeXxTaR said:
Eh, it depends on which arc we are talking about, things almost never go perfectly for Subaru, even in s2p2 Subaru broke his gate during his fight with Garfiel, Puck is asleep, Pandora killed Fortuna and brainwashed Petelgeuse and Shima died.

JeXxTaR said:

The world is way bigger than you think it is, the author already wrote many side stories for a lot of side characters that barely interact with Subaru, I think Priscilla even forgot who Subaru is.
And I'm not even considering characters that died before Subaru was summoned to the world of re:zero like Fourier, stride, Theresia, Miles, Liep, Balleroy, etc.

R41NBOW said:
I’m sorry but there is no way Okeanix is not a bait account. that’s got to be the most delusional admiration of anything I’ve ever seen if your willing to get into an argument like that with someone who still said rezero was a 9/10 instead of 10/10.

Badonkers said:
As soon as I saw who is/are in charge of writing, all my expectations dropped to zero.

Suryaaps said:
@APolygons2 I assume you're referring to the scene where he bites his tongue off to die? He did so, as per what I understood from the wn, cause satella was still going on with her love rant and he was losing his mind after learning how Echidna was using him. A way to return to his body was to die in the Dona world. 
The witches don't hate ( actually like) Satella ( NOT the witch of envy) , except maybe echidna. And they are aware of what he's going though. He gets to realize there that Satella isnt the evil being he thinks she is, rather she wants him to cherish himself more While protecting his friends. Minerva, doesn't want anyone hurt in front of her. The witches aren't as bad, they helped him come to the decision to not keep freaking out and handling his life rashly to overcome that seemingly impossible loop. Whether that's because of their support towards Satella or just their sympathy or if subaru is somehow connected to them( which is possible). OR i maybe dumb that i forgot if it's mentioned in the wn idk. 
Anyways, a LOT of content(dona, satella speech) was cut in that season, especially the last two episodes so it's fair that viewers had difficulty understanding that. 

APolygons2 said:
to be fair, I said It was a 9/10 when I first watched, and now have given it a lower score. but still.

I don't think he is a troll. just a very, very obsessed fan to an unhealthy degree.

like you know something is wrong, when he has only has rezero as a 10. AND has no 9s.

meaning everything else is 8 or below. so he things this single anime, is at least 2 scores above every single other thing he has seen. which is just absurd imo. I don't think there is ANY anime that would be good enough for something like this.

R41NBOW said:
I’m sorry but there is no way Okeanix is not a bait account. that’s got to be the most delusional admiration of anything I’ve ever seen if your willing to get into an argument like that with someone who still said rezero was a 9/10 instead of 10/10.