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H2O ~Footprints in the Sand~ Episode 12 Discussion

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09-01-08, 10:46 PM

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My interperation:
- Hayami was tired of the Hirose fag, and decided to end her life bringing an innocent child with her + a soccor ball.
- The reason why Takuma was never able to see because he didn't open his eyes, until Hayami left him for some innocent little boy with a ball. Seeing how he was betrayed by the fact he got pwned by a elementary kid he decided to open his eyes, only to see some train smash into her. For that reason he was so shock he can't close his eyes eg, O___________O
- Thus a few years later he got his eye sight, because he was never bothered to open his eyes.
- Hayami coming back to life? No, she was never dead in the first place, at the last moment she did some ninja shit and managed to escape..with the boy.

To be honest, this show is very misleading, that Hamaji girl isnt actually a girl, like wtf.. I actually thought sh...he was hot.. wtf..

Overall this show is just wayyy to weird, the ending didnt make sense, well the whole series didn;t make sense, and a guy that looks like a girl? WHAT THE HELL.

So I give you my rating, 10/10. 6/10


hehe so does that make you gay?

it makes him a victim of the anime industry.

the baby is maki and hamaji's. if you blend their two hair colors you get the baby's hair.

all in all i iked the series. 9/10
 
09-09-08, 8:34 AM

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I actually thought this was one of the best last episodes I've ever seen. And I'm pretty sure Hayami was just a spirit.
 
09-20-08, 5:00 PM

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Just finished this series for two day marathon. One of the greatest endings in a series i have seen by far. It was sad then yet right at the end they bring back Hayami and make it a happy ending.

And Hayami is NOT a spirit! If you noticed what Otoha said was that "it was hard to convince the spirit committee", and he should "watch over her properly this time" clearly means that she is truly real.
 
09-27-08, 12:17 PM

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8/10 to all anime..

a nice final..
 
10-04-08, 5:33 PM

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Beautiful ending, honestly..
 
10-09-08, 9:44 PM

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Blargh. Wth.

I expected something better out of this...

I mean, Hayami stands in front of the train when she could have easily moved the last couple of feet off of the train tracks. Also, it seems that she stood holding the boy in front of the freaking train. Good job there; you not only managed to kill yourself, but the little kid as well.

Oh, and to make it have a happy ending we'll make it so that she's brought back to life. -.-

Show gets an overall 6/10 from me seeing as how there were a couple of parts that I liked, though I really should give it a 5/10. :|
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10-11-08, 10:52 PM

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You can tell me crazy.. but i DO loved this anime... the whole series, i might say this was one of/or the best anime i've seen!
Hayami x Takuma FTW !! XD A beautiful and perfect ending. Overall 10/10
 
11-06-08, 2:26 PM

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Honostly disliked the last few episodes, from the moment Hirose started loosing his memories, but this ending was just great, they probably couldn't have done it better in my opinion! ^^
 
11-11-08, 9:46 PM

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Nezon said:
My interperation:
To be honest, this show is very misleading, that Hamaji girl isnt actually a girl, like wtf.. I actually thought sh...he was hot.. wtf..

Overall this show is just wayyy to weird, the ending didnt make sense, well the whole series didn;t make sense, and a guy that looks like a girl? WHAT THE HELL.


Actually, Episode 11 sets this straight. In reality, Takuma could not see. He only "saw" what he chose to. Take that reference to the beach photo, and the claim that Takuma didn't see anything when Hayami needed help with the shower.. He didn't "see" Hayami's breasts because he chose not to.
The same can be applied with Hamaji. Takuma chose not to see her... Rather, he just vizualized her as a male.


I really liked this series, despite its shortcomings. The ending was superb, and it even explained the analogy with "Footprints" for those who were still clueless :p

I intended to give it a 7/10, but after watching the last episode, I'm bumping it to an 8/10. I'm usually generous with my ratings anyway.
 
11-16-08, 3:31 AM

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I have given it a temporary score of 7/10 while watching it. I don't like the style of plot even if it imposes a good one. The ending episodes made me raise it to an 8/10. Good and meaningful ending but still the plot and the characters - I don't like them.
 
11-17-08, 11:23 PM

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All I have to say is: wtf. But I enjoyed it, so oh wells that ends wells.

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oh yeah,WHY THE HELL WOULD ANY GUY BEAT UP GIRL?!?WHAT's EVEN WORSE IS THE GIRL IS THE GUY's GIRLFRIEND.AND HE "sincerely" LOVES HER.(refers to episode 11 when takuma beat the heck out of Kohinata)
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Yeah, that bothered me too.

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I'm not sure what you people have been watching either. I'm also not sure why nobody seems to understand the ending. It appeared to make perfect sense to me. Nonetheless...

I think a lot of peoples' problems with this show stem from two issues; that is:
a) they expected romance/drama, when that isn't ultimately the main focus (despite what it seems like from the beginning)
b) they haven't stopped to think about what's going on, because they stop at 'romance/drama' thought process-- people in it for the romance/drama won't appreciate the mindfuck, and people who would haven't started watching it because of its surface appearance

The romance is a part of it-- but it's not the focus. Rather, H2O is about the village, and importantly, Takuma himself. Putting aside his influence on everyone else... Hotaru and Hayami especially... The boy has a whole lot of mental issues, and that's the whole point of the last few eps.

In my opinion, Hayami hasn't come back to life. Otoha said it herself-- don't remember the exact quote, but something like organising it with the Spirit Council or whatever it was. Much like Otoha was only able to be percieved by Takuma... that is, she's dead, but able to "visit" him... that's the impression of what I got from Hayami. It wasn't a happy ending. If the show wanted to have a happy ending, Takuma and Hayami would have had some teary reunion type scene. It's bittersweet.

And as the poem says... in his worst times, he was carried by the Lord. I think in a sense that is the point of Hayami and Otoha. They are beside him now, now that he has gotten over his mental problems... while they carried him when he was dealing with them.

Well, perhaps I think too much into this, but I really enjoyed H2O. It was such an unexpected ending. If only it had the budget of something like True Tears, and people might've appreciated it some more. 9/10 from me


Otoha says "So this time watch over her properly". She wouldn't say that if she was actually dead now, would she?

Anyone here play the game and knows what's going on?
 
02-19-09, 9:50 AM

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ive just watched this show out of boredom and it was unexpected better than i thought it would be. its not a masterpiece but its not trash either, its somewhat special. the ending is a bit rushed and maybe misleading too.

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Otoha says "So this time watch over her properly". She wouldn't say that if she was actually dead now, would she?


i also think that way...
but i would have been burst out into tears, hugging and kissing her, thats what i feel missing in this ending!

i cant decide between 7 or 8, if the ending wouldnt have been so twisted and rushed, i would go with a 8 right from the start...
 
03-11-09, 10:55 AM

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i cant decide between 7 or 8, if the ending wouldnt have been so twisted and rushed, i would go with a 8 right from the start...

Same here. I eventually gave it a 7 since the ending was so random. I tend to like more sad endings than happy ones. I would of been better off if she hadn't appeared, but it was good nonetheless.
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03-15-09, 2:10 AM

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You can tell me crazy.. but i DO loved this anime... the whole series, i might say this was one of/or the best anime i've seen!
Hayami x Takuma FTW !! XD A beautiful and perfect ending. Overall 10/10


I love it too! do you know animes like it coz i watched it's user recommendations but i only liked myself yourself and air
 
03-15-09, 2:10 AM

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DarkFenix said:
You can tell me crazy.. but i DO loved this anime... the whole series, i might say this was one of/or the best anime i've seen!
Hayami x Takuma FTW !! XD A beautiful and perfect ending. Overall 10/10


I love it too! do you know animes like it coz i watched it's user recommendations but i only liked myself yourself and air
 
03-18-09, 2:31 PM

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DarkFenix said:
You can tell me crazy.. but i DO loved this anime... the whole series, i might say this was one of/or the best anime i've seen!
Hayami x Takuma FTW !! XD A beautiful and perfect ending. Overall 10/10




well, i love it too.
i cried a lot in the end, when Hirose lost his memory, and this conversation between Hayami and Hotaru T____T"
so, at the end for me it was hard to say is Hayami dead or alive, or was it another Otoha illusion. Anyway i'm glad that it ended like this, this words about his mother, Hayami and this child and her diary And finally this windmill.
it was hard to convince the spirit committee ~it's really hard to interpretate, but I believe that Hayami is alive <3


9/10



 
03-28-09, 2:12 AM

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I think the Hirose losing his memory part was quite stupid but they did a good job on ending the anime except the revival part. I must say that I hate endings with people dying and later on getting revived. Seriously, whats the point in that other trying to make it seem more dramatic and a "happy ending". Also the story didn't hint anything for the couple Hayami x Takuma in the earlier episodes other then Takuma coming to her aid which is what I found quite annoying (the couple part). In anime series they usually cast some kind of foreshadowing in the story.
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03-31-09, 9:27 AM

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it was .. really sad .____. yet not o-o
 
04-07-09, 6:32 PM

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Really liked this series.
Not all anime have a blind person in a realistic manner.
 
04-25-09, 2:07 AM

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I liked the ending :P
I love it when shows are pretty normal and then all of a sudden everything gos to hell and you're not sure what's going on.
If she was going to be bought back to life, they should have explained it better though >_>
 
04-27-09, 10:04 PM

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wawawawawawawa wait a click! This is based on a (h-)game? *goes lower the score even more*

Dude H-games are bomb.
But anyways I was like FUCK!!! When Hayami died and pissed off and then I was like FUCK YEAH!! Great ending.
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05-08-09, 10:27 PM

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So instead of pushing/pulling the kid out of the way of the train and then trying to avoid it herself she decides to just look back and smile...? So very frustrating watching this show.
 
05-08-09, 10:30 PM

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So instead of pushing/pulling the kid out of the way of the train and then trying to avoid it herself she decides to just look back and smile...? So very frustrating watching this show.

Well, it fixed Hirose, didn't it? :P
 
05-15-09, 3:02 PM

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I give it 4/5, this episode was great ! I subtracted one point cuz the turn of event was quite fast but still
H2O was a great anime overall !
Im glad they went for a supernatural happy ending and in my opinion it doesnt mess up the anime, because its not like they inserted the spirit world with Otoha and all only in the ending, they all ready presented the supernatural since episode 1 so they had the right to choose an ending like that :P
Hirose and Hayami deserved to be together ! thank god :)

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05-19-09, 9:24 AM

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Seriously I was stunned when Hayami died, and the worse thing was Hirose was a retard at that time. Poor Hayami =(

The ending was not bad since Hirose is back to normal and Hayami reunited with him for a moment, but it would have been better if Hayami is still alive.

Overall 8/10.
 
05-31-09, 10:48 AM

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In section 1 of chapter 11 I got revenge on the last part = D anime fans on his official ...
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8/10
 
06-16-09, 2:01 PM

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I actually really liked this anime. There just seems to be so much hate messages on it. I agree with a post I saw in a previous disscussion. It seems as if many people hate it, but looking at the poll results seem to pull otherwise.
 
07-01-09, 7:26 PM

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i really liked the series throughout untl the last 2 minutes of the final episode which f**ked up the entire storyline. i mean WTF?? X 9000

if Hayami's back frm the dead then, probably poor Hirose is starting to have illusions again like he did before ( and this always started when he imagines otoha running towards him being chased by a wild boar like b4). thats the only reasonable conclusion i could draw.

and the fact that the baby being Maki and Hamiji's?? that screwed me up too.
 
07-01-09, 8:30 PM

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I liked how the series ended. Hayami <3~

*Off to play the game.
 
07-02-09, 3:23 AM

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i watch this anime more than once. .

but i still confused, are hayami still alive? or dead?

is there a chance that the kids and hayami didn't hit by train? >.<

or it's some magic, and bang, otoha ressurect hayami, and hayami can reunite with hirose ? >.<

but overall i liked this episode, especially this entire series. .^^

 
07-17-09, 5:41 AM

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WTH I thought hamaji was a girl the whole time. Interesting ending...still thinking of what i will rate it as
 
07-28-09, 8:37 PM

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What the bloody f was that? It didn't make any sense. Or rather there was no point to it.

This show was a big letdown with some big secret always overshadowing everyone's happiness with angst, only to find out that the big secrets are stupid, disappointing and shallow, thus making the whole thing ridiculous. But the ending.. that was on a whole new level.

One giant mess, that's what it was. At least the OST was good most of the time.
 
08-07-09, 9:26 AM

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WTH I thought hamaji was a girl the whole time. Interesting ending...still thinking of what i will rate it as


You didn't pay a lot of attention , did you?
 
08-08-09, 2:51 PM

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good ending but i hoped they got merried,,but still it is an amazing series...did any one notice the bell on hayami's neck ?? she looks like a dog !! LOL =P done with this..im going to watch sola and chaos head next !!! cant wait for more heart warming series.........


 
08-10-09, 4:51 PM

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ppppp! yukiji and maki having a baby killed me.

But yea, that kid probably would have lived if she didn't grab him.
 
08-21-09, 7:16 AM

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well i really liked this show
till the end you never imagined what was happening
but hell i was about to crush my pc when i saw her die
at least she got resurected in the end guess its cause she tryed to save a boy
btw its the first anime ive ever seen focues on a blind person or even the first anime with someone who cant see in it
thats a good part and showing that makes it special in another way
definitely 10 out of 10 for me
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09-17-09, 5:39 PM

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up until episode 10 the shows had a 10, but after the 11th episode and the first half of the 8th i was going to give it a 7 or 8 for the worst ending possible, but when hayami came back to life i decided to give it a 9/10 because i really liked the rest of it
 
10-02-09, 5:27 AM

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What just happened? ... They could've at least explained why she's still alive or something. This series really got a lot of "WTF?" moments.

6/10
 
10-03-09, 4:36 AM

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I actually thought this was one of the best last episodes I've ever seen. And I'm pretty sure Hayami was just a spirit.


Your damn right. I don't know why people thinks she came back from death.
remember what Otoha said : " It was hard to convince the Spirit committee to do this.. "
Basicallly, hirose was given a chance to have a moment with her. Get it people?
Besides, did any1 come back to life in the whole series? NO!

I luv the whole story btw 10/10, goes to my favorites.


 
10-11-09, 1:23 AM

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...well then.

This series seemed like a bundle of hit and miss episodes. Although there was a ton of stuff I couldn't stand, I'm glad I kept watching and the ending was quite lovely, to me. :D
 
01-14-10, 11:34 PM

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I guess i'm a shallow/stupid viewer afterall. 7/10
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01-27-10, 8:59 AM

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Your damn right. I don't know why people thinks she came back from death.
remember what Otoha said : " It was hard to convince the Spirit committee to do this.. "
Basicallly, hirose was given a chance to have a moment with her. Get it people?
Besides, did any1 come back to life in the whole series? NO!

She also said: "So, protect her properly this time", as if he was given a second chance... Though that, for me, didn't do the ending any harm. I thought the ending was great, and the whole series was for me very entertaining (exeption from that dream-episode).

Bonus points for awesome BGM and instert songs :)
 
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DarkFenix said:
You can tell me crazy.. but i DO loved this anime... the whole series, i might say this was one of/or the best anime i've seen!
Hayami x Takuma FTW !! XD A beautiful and perfect ending. Overall 10/10


I love it too! do you know animes like it coz i watched it's user recommendations but i only liked myself yourself and air


I highly recommend Clannad, Clannad: After Story, Kanon, Ef: a tale of memories/melodies. They are all VERY good shows, and somewhat like H2O, especially Clannad. All of 'em are masterpieces, imo.

All in all I must say that this show was better than I thought it would be. And after marathoning those animes I just mentioned, I've gotten used to these kinds of *boom, it wuz magics!* endings. I'd say overall, 9/10, just cause I like this kind of ending and if Hayami had really died in such a dumb way, I would've been pissed. While I'm writing this, I guess I'll throw in my two cents about what happened in the end.

Otoha wanted Hirose to get over his mom's death, so she kind of orchestrates all of the events that led up to Hayami's (dumb) death. The only way that Hirose would have remembered that his mom didn't actually kill herself is if the same thing happened again, thus Hayami dies. Then in the end it was a "lesson learned, heres your reward" deal and Hayami returns. (kinda like Clannad? Or maybe this spirit councel bit will show up in the next ep of Bleach...) Anyways, thats my interpretation. I do think that the ending could have been a little clearer, as I'm still a bit confused from all the memory jumping and resurrection magic. Maybe I'll rewatch it sometime.
 
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Just finished watching it.

Then replayed Ep. 12 about 10 times to figure out what happened. The first time watching through it I assumed Hayami avoided the train and she was behind it. What didn't make sense is that she wasn't there afterwards.

About 10 times more of watching various parts of the episode, it still seems like she didn't get hit.

Heres what seems to have happened (btw, using m.3.3.w subs, so if the subs are wrong, my analysis could be wrong as well).

Reasons why I think Hayami was not hit by the train:

1) The scene before the train Hayami runs PAST the first train track when she gets tot he boy and holds him there. It is very obvious to see that the train came on the first train track. She was already past it when she got to the boy.

2) She turns around and smiles at Hirose. That shows that she made it across, and shes happy that she made ti across. If she didn't make it across yet, she wouldn't turn around yet (at least thats what normal people would do). She wouldn't smile and hold a kid as two people get run over. It is clear that Hayami didn't want to die based on the events in Ep 11. Even though she was hated, she resisted getting shot by the 2 guys with guns, and proceeded to run away from them. Theres no reason she would want to go back to the first tracks and die here.

3) There is a shot under the train part way through while its passing. There is no hand falling off like in Ep 11 where Hirose imagines his moms death. There is no blue blood or whatever that was around her hand in Ep 11. The tracks are perfectly clean, showing the train didn't smash anyone.

4) When his eyes open again, Otoha uses "accepted" asking if he accepts the PAST. What happens in Ep 12 seems like its just used so he finds out what actually happened to his mom, rather then to say Hayami died.

5) The sound very clearly plays the sound of a train going by. It even plays the beginning of the train coming by as it pushes the wind. It also continues to play the sound as the train goes by. It very clearly doesn't even play a slight hint of sound of anything being hit. A train hitting practically any object with mass at the speed it was going would make sound. If they were to hide the crash and pretend it just happened, there would likely be a splash/blank screen rather then a train going by with no crash.

6) When Otoha says "it was hard to convince the spirit committee to do this", shes probably talking about reviving herself as a kid. Every other time Otoha was older then she was in this scene. She probably for whatever reason couldn't come back to this world and needed to convince the spirit committee to allow her to. She could also be talking about convincing the spirit committee to allow other people (Hayami) to see here, since it was clear in earlier episodes that only Hirose could see her.

7) When Hayami returns, shes aged like all the other people. If she died, she would look the same as right before she died. She clearly aged.



What makes the most sense to have happened:

Hayami saves the boy, but leaves because she still feels she is impacting Hirose's memories or thoughts in some negative way.

She turns around and smiles and sees Hirose's eyes open. She knows Hirose is back to his old self, and doesn't need his help to see and do stuff anymore.

Otoha is the only person who knows where Haymi is after she disspears. She needs permission from the spirit council to contact with Hayami, and persuade her to go back to Hirose.



I think that makes sense more then the whole 'she got hit by a train from a different track, that made no crash sound, smiled about holding a boy on the tracks with her, didn't get hurt with blood or injuries' thing.
 
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is there a chance that the kids and hayami didn't hit by train? >.<


I don't think she got hit. Different train tracks. No blood or falling arm like his mom's death in his visions, no crash sound. She smiles holding a kid when PAST the tracks. Would be illogical to walk back onto the tracks with the kid. If she was the type of person that would kill the kid and herself by jumping back to the first train track, theres no way she'd want to go back and see Hirose.
 
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... Man, I haven't watched H2O for a loooong time, so I may get the names and characters mixed up. HAHAHA.

This show was.. amazing. I mean, I didn't really think that way for the first few episodes ; I MEAN it was like, Hirose 'opened' his eyes and no one noticed and stuff. I mean, a blind.. boy.. suddenly opened his eyes, and woohoo for him, no questions asked? Lack of logic, much? .. OR SO I THOUGHT.

Well i was clearly wrong, so FORGIVE ME D:
IT'S AMAZING.
IT'S INCREDIBLE.
IT'S LIFE x333

.. Kay so anyway.. such a heated discussion on whether Hayami was really alive at the end, eh? It's true that she may have been alive up till that point, but as for me, I was one of those people who believed that she died xD I mean, SPIRIT council, seriously! She has to die to be involved with them! OR SHE HAXED. D:
 
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The episode left me with a huge WTF. I mean Hayami dies and then she comes back to life, as a spirit or an actual breathing person, I have no idea. Also before the end, I really want to know whose baby that was exactly.... I have to admit, I could not believe that Hayami actually got run over by a train, that was just.....terrible. This show was okay. I didn't enjoy it that much, except for the Takuma X Hayami scenes...

Also the whole Takuma could see for most of the show, then turns out he couldn't, just threw me off. What a confusing show. I give it a 4/10. Not one of the best series out there.
 
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Snoppdraken said:
sCr4G said:

Your damn right. I don't know why people thinks she came back from death.
remember what Otoha said : " It was hard to convince the Spirit committee to do this.. "
Basicallly, hirose was given a chance to have a moment with her. Get it people?
Besides, did any1 come back to life in the whole series? NO!

She also said: "So, protect her properly this time", as if he was given a second chance... Though that, for me, didn't do the ending any harm. I thought the ending was great, and the whole series was for me very entertaining (exeption from that dream-episode).

Bonus points for awesome BGM and instert songs :)


When she said that , she did something else ^_^ which gives u a different thought about what she said . However, the ending is very " OPEN " to think whether she's dead or not. Personally I think she was an Spirit cuz Otoha is a Spirit and is mentioned the word "Spirit" a lot as well lol. Nothing about resurrection. Otherwise they could've revived hitoshi's mother to make the story short lol . WHAT- EVER! ...


 
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so basically. hayami never died she was on a seperate track? fuck this ending is too "open"
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yeah this anime series was pretty confusing and mest up...I think it would have been better if Hayami stayed dead or died because it would have made sense with Hirose accepting and realizing what happened with his mom and him building the windmill for hayami...also it was pretty much a wtf moment when Maki had Hamji's child o_O
overal i gave this show a 8/10 because the music and character development was good
 
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