chinlamp said: I'd just like to express my disappointment that they didn't do the clones in this series, despite having plenty of time to if they hadn't done all those bullshit fanservice 1 episode 1 story fillers. Well, I wouldn't call it "bullshit fanservice" but yeah, im kinda getting annoyed with those fillers, and yes. I'm disappointed that they didn't do the sisters arc. But as SunyiNyufi, the sisters arc was already covered in Index. I was half-expecting them to do the sisters arc then overlap it with the story in Index (like showing how Misaka destroyed those facilities, etc. etc. ) but then again, that wouldn't make sense since the story was already done in index. Asako said: Index flopped in my views. Tried to overreach and fell short, or something. Railgun isn't trying that hard, so isn't going to disappoint in the same manner. Agreed. First impression was "damn this is going to be an epic anime" but then, as the story progressed, it's just as SunyiNyufi said. SunyiNyufi said: main guy saving current damsel in distress most of the time. Overall, I'm not really disappointed with Railgun, but I'm not satisfied with it either. Let's see how it ends. *Hoping for an index season 2* |
| Maybe my problems is that Misaka wasn't properly shown in Index, which actually better that way. I mean in Index, Misaka seemed like a hard-headed do it herself, bad ass who thought she could take on anyone and when someone came along she couldn't beat (Touma) it really pissed her off. Then in Railgun we get this every day Misaka that's just lame, and doesn't seem anything like she was made out to be in Index. She has friends, she isn't as cold to people, and she seems to be like any other girl her age, besides the part about liking everything only someone 5 years old would, and acting even more childish. I think we should have had an Index 2, rather than having this spin-off Railgun. Misaka wasn't meant to be given this much spot light, and it's ruining her image. Railgun has been pretty fail, and as of now... I'd barely give it a 6/10... which is sad because I really liked Index, although even Index started slipping later into the series. Railgun might have had a better chance, had it actually had a story, been only 12 episodes, no filler crap, and minus Kuroko and the other two girls. I'd have liked to seen some more into Accelerator's (I think that's his name) and the clone Misaka's past. |
KobyMar 3, 2010 8:39 PM
| The fact that you were all having too much disappointment in a series that is "not" suppose to have Touma around in the first place is what makes it disappointing for you lot. Sorry, but I actually prefer him not to be there most of the time, and I was able to enjoy this series better than Index. Now if you all decided to look at Railgun as if it's something new (and not trying to put what's not suppose to be there or put so much expectations on "this character" to be in a series that's not suppose to have him around all the time to make Mikoto all tsun-tsun) maybe you might have liked it a little better. As for the Imoutos, since the manga is still on-going with that said story, it's expected that we won't have it in the first place, and those "filler" episodes that you all keep complaining about, it's considered as "canon" now since the author of the light novels for Index is involved in writing said episodes. I think you should read those extra parts from the manga to know what I'm talking about. The Mikoto you all saw in Index (especially in the Sisters arc) is the effect of what happened to her in the latest chapters in the manga... so Railgun basically shows us a side of Mikoto before she found out about that horrible experiment. In conclusion though, there's bound to be either a season 2 of Railgun to satisfy your needs for the pre-Sisters arc, or some OVA. They can't leave us hanging, that's for sure. |
ChaoXide said: I mean in Index, Misaka seemed like a hard-headed do it herself, bad ass who thought she could take on anyone and when someone came along she couldn't beat (Touma) it really pissed her off. Let's see what happened in Railgun so far: Mikoto hitting Kuroko all the time; almost killing people with electroshock who pissed her off; fighting with a multi-ability wielder (aka Kiyama); destroying a bigass foetus-monster-thingy; getting teary eyed cos she couldn't defeat Touma. I guess that counts as hard headed, doesn't it? ChaoXide said: She has friends, she isn't as cold to people, and she seems to be like any other girl her age, besides the part about liking everything only someone 5 years old would, and acting even more childish. When was she ever shown to be cold to people in Index? I mean, sure she is cold to Touma cos she is the tsundere, and cold to Index cos she is jealous, and of course she is cold to the giys who try to pick her up constantly. But other then that if she was really cold to people, she would never agree to giving her DNA to the researchers so they could cure people, and would never want to save the Sisters. But I agree on showing her being childish, but I think that's mostly due to the fact that Touma is not always present in Railgun, so we can't have him saying how childish Mikoto is, therefore they tried an other method to show that side of her. |
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| I agree. How could you call Mikoto "cold" after watching the Sisters arc? o_O |
| Railgun didn't destroy Mikoto's character, it expanded her character. You just want to see the flat one, with almost no character development. And I'm getting sick of people screaming for Touma all the time. He isn't the freaking main character. This anime is about Mikoto, Kuroko and their friends, not that hobo. |
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| railgun sucks. seriously? dude obviously u have no taste in anime... railgun not only does not kill bribri's character but expands it showing her other more gentle side which is by definition part of tsundere and also how can an anime suck just because it shift the focus of characters from the main story. think of railgun this way its like fumofu for fmp.. railgun doesnt suck and it will make more ppl interested in the main story. seriously if u hate railgun then u should hate tmni as well |
| railgun sucks. seriously? dude obviously u have no taste in anime... railgun not only does not kill bribri's character but expands it showing her other more gentle side which is by definition part of tsundere and also how can an anime suck just because it shift the focus of characters from the main story. think of railgun this way its like fumofu for fmp.. railgun doesnt suck and it will make more ppl interested in the main story. seriously if u hate railgun then u should hate tmni as well |
| I'm going to have to say I love Biribiri and Kuroko. I'm also glad they aren't doing the clone arc, as I've already seen that played out in great detail in Index. I'll have to reiterate what someone else has said in that my only problem with this series is the lack of action. I too was expecting a bit more fight scenes etc. Instead the vast majority of this anime plays out as a Slice of Life series. That doesn't make me care any less for the series as I quite enjoy it, but it would have improved it a great deal for me. |
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edwardyyu9f said: railgun sucks. seriously? dude obviously u have no taste in anime... railgun not only does not kill bribri's character but expands it showing her other more gentle side which is by definition part of tsundere and also how can an anime suck just because it shift the focus of characters from the main story. think of railgun this way its like fumofu for fmp.. railgun doesnt suck and it will make more ppl interested in the main story. seriously if u hate railgun then u should hate tmni as well Don't be belittling my taste in anime just cause you don't agree. That's just immature and rude. I haven't wathed fumofu of fmp.. although I saw everything else of fmp, simply because I haven't gotten around to it yet, and its been low priority as I've heard it screws everything about FMP over.. and makes a mockery of it. Kind of like railgun has been doing. Railgun has just been a bunch of random slice of life episodes with filler like quality plot. Then a couple decent episodes here and there. |
| It's so nice to see that you don't answer to serious questions (like why the hell do you think Biribiri is cold to people), but react to insults... As for Railgun being random... it sure has some filler eps, though if you take a look at it, they have sometimes important story elements in it. (Like that Antiskill girls story, where she met Haruue, and we saw the pic in the locket for the first time) |
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SunyiNyufi said: It's so nice to see that you don't answer to serious questions (like why the hell do you think Biribiri is cold to people), but react to insults... As for Railgun being random... it sure has some filler eps, though if you take a look at it, they have sometimes important story elements in it. (Like that Antiskill girls story, where she met Haruue, and we saw the pic in the locket for the first time) She isn't cold to people anymore IMO, it's the growth of her character. O.o I said, she started out that way, I never said I still thought her to be as such. As with any character over time they are expected to grow and change. I made this topic only to discuss the opinion of the series and to ask what others thought, and that my opinion was that I don't like how they have fleshed out BiriBiri's character. It just isn't how I expected her to be after seeing her on Index that's all.. and it ruined the opinions I had of her. That and I'm just not fond of how Railgun has played out thus far. Sorry, if I'm not that great at explaining what I'm trying to get through here. I've never been that great with explanations of stuff, which is why I don't ever write many reviews and recommendations. |
Jumperboy333 said: And I'm getting sick of people screaming for Touma all the time. He isn't the freaking main character. This anime is about Mikoto, Kuroko and their friends, not that hobo. Personally, screaming for Touma because he showed up in random scenes here and there, and Touma is a familiar character from Index. The familiarity makes people scream? That's just my opinion and others might not think that way. |
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| A railgun has the ability to hit with the force of a small nuke and what the fuck is this shit? This show sucks. |
| The manga is completely RAILGUN, only Misaka´s story, Uiharu, Saten, Kuroko they are supporting characters all the time, they don´t do so much things like anime adaptation, the Manga is completely Misaka view you should read it, It´s better than all that "friendship" Also Accelerator and MISAKA appears, and there´s a lot of action, the anime is more a slice of life dedicated to the four girls with random action What a shame because of the manga but well, Isn´t a bad anime after all |
wabowserMar 15, 2010 1:52 PM
| wasn't the main character in touma's harem index? then y does everyone expect him to show up hanging around with or popping in to save misaka? |
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ChaoXide said: edwardyyu9f said: railgun sucks. seriously? dude obviously u have no taste in anime... railgun not only does not kill bribri's character but expands it showing her other more gentle side which is by definition part of tsundere and also how can an anime suck just because it shift the focus of characters from the main story. think of railgun this way its like fumofu for fmp.. railgun doesnt suck and it will make more ppl interested in the main story. seriously if u hate railgun then u should hate tmni as well Don't be belittling my taste in anime just cause you don't agree. That's just immature and rude. I haven't wathed fumofu of fmp.. although I saw everything else of fmp, simply because I haven't gotten around to it yet, and its been low priority as I've heard it screws everything about FMP over.. and makes a mockery of it. Kind of like railgun has been doing. Railgun has just been a bunch of random slice of life episodes with filler like quality plot. Then a couple decent episodes here and there. mockery???.... what?????? its called a side story buddy please understand something before u say it. and whats wrong with slice of life?... it get more viewers because it attracts both male and female. and the side stories always have a higher rating than the original because it make the tense and sci-fi original series into something normal and fun... |
dxthegreat said: wasn't the main character in touma's harem index? then y does everyone expect him to show up hanging around with or popping in to save misaka? No, they were expecting to show Misaka´s vision for everything or that´s what I was xpecting Imouto arc has completely different scenarios also appear interesting characters another level 5 sper and there isn´t bored chapters like helping the kindergarten |
| I still think it is better than Index. |
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| I was expecting Railgun to be much better,but end up another overused anime plot.Misaka should never become the main character because isnt suit to be one. |
| If this anime wasn't a spin off of to aru majutsu no index it would't be that sucessful. |
| Railgun is a much more rounded up show than Index was, the storytelling is far superior, and we're spared of Touma's endless and cheesy soliloquies, which annoyed the hell out of me in Index. |
YagokoroEirin said: If this anime wasn't a spin off of to aru majutsu no index it would't be that sucessful. I fully agree.. Railgun was just a shitty mostly filler slice of life shit. I ended up rating it a barely 6/10. Index was so much more rounded and the storytelling was far superior. Though Index was only an 8/10 in my book. =P |
| I liked it better than Index. Generally I like science fiction over fantasy, so if the story is from the same source, well, yea... Now waiting for Index s2, which I hope beats both series. |
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| complete train-wreck if you ask me fillers, completely predictable plot and forced fan service at the most unnecessary times? i mean cmon. the only thing i got out of railgun which i loved was: -himegami's appearance -index's appearance -touma was the highlight if you ask me needs more touma -kuroko's voice is winnnnnn~ -evil bitches troll face was lololololololol higurashi much? -and lets not forget misaka though shes always a win. |
| Needs more Drill Hair. |
| I sense a troll |
| Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone |
Confucius said: i sense a railgun fan.I sense a troll |
| Needs more Drill Hair. |
| If he realizes, Misaka Mikoto is the most favorite character in the series so far. A series devoted to her isn't a terrible idea even if they are all fillers. The fillers are enjoyable. |
| Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone |
Asako said: I completely disagree with most everything people are saying. I'm enjoying Railgun a great deal; a lot more than Index. It's difficult to quantify exactly why, but I think a lot of it has to do with the very poor story structure Index had, jumping from arc to arc with no natural leadin, and leaving most of them with very poor resolutions. Railgun, however, is just... fun. It's not taking itself too seriously and is a great success as an episodic series. Even the handful of mini arcs so far have been thoroughly entertaining, well paced and concluded. It's a great deal more enjoyable than Index was. Index flopped in my views. Tried to overreach and fell short, or something. Railgun isn't trying that hard, so isn't going to disappoint in the same manner. Have to say everything she said is right. It's a bit a lot of shoujo, but not so much that you can't enjoy it. I think everything is throwing a pissy fit because Index was a lot more action packed. |
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d4n13lr0x said: I think everything is throwing a pissy fit because Index was a lot more action packed. No we don't like it because 90% or more of it was filler-like-quality.. and rather than actual story we get some slice-of-life like crap.. Sure there were a couple good short arcs... But Railgun would have been better had they not completely changed Misaka's personality and made it only a 4-6 episode OVA rather than the 24 episode stretched out horrid mess it was. Sure it was still somewhat enjoyable and I gave it a 6/10, but it could have been done much better, and up against Index.. Railgun was nothing. At the very least, they shouldn't have changed Misaka's personality so much. She acted closer to what she acts at the end of Index, mixed with Index's actual personality.. then the did at the beginning of Index.. and well Railgun is set before the Index show for the most part.. so the closest resemblance to her personality would be how she acted at the beginning of Index.... not a freakin mix of her personality at the end and then mixed with Index's personality. |
KobyJun 5, 2010 6:21 AM
| Haha I am so sorry, but I have to diagree with you. To Aru no Railgun is absolutely way better then To Aru no Index. But maybe this is because it gets more in debt with Mikoto's like instead of Touma. I was so happy with Mikoto Misaka's character development. I think that it portray her perfectly. She's a total Tsundere! What's wrong with that? But I have to say, the manga is way better then the anime. If you read the manga, But it's almost always like that. You can't really expect too much from the anime.... I mean just look at Vampire Knight.... no offense to Vampire Knight. But hey, this is my opinion. And I think they did an okay job on the anime series. Try reading the manga, The story in the To Aru no Railgun is actually take place around 2 or 3 months before To Aru no Index. :] |
asianxweirdoJun 7, 2010 1:07 PM
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Lailai-kun said: complete train-wreck if you ask me fillers, completely predictable plot and forced fan service at the most unnecessary times? i mean cmon. the only thing i got out of railgun which i loved was: -himegami's appearance -index's appearance -touma was the highlight if you ask me needs more touma -kuroko's voice is winnnnnn~ -evil bitches troll face was lololololololol higurashi much? -and lets not forget misaka though shes always a win. Read the manga instead. If you had read that first then watch the anime, I'm pretty sure you might find it more enjoyable. Yup it's predictable. But how many anime out there is not predictable? The manga portray Mikoto and all the other characters way better then the anime. But its rare when the anime outshine the manga. So that was a big no-duh for me. Sorry if you think this is annoying. I find myself pretty annoying also. :/ |
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ChaoXide said: d4n13lr0x said: I think everything is throwing a pissy fit because Index was a lot more action packed. No we don't like it because 90% or more of it was filler-like-quality.. and rather than actual story we get some slice-of-life like crap.. Sure there were a couple good short arcs... But Railgun would have been better had they not completely changed Misaka's personality and made it only a 4-6 episode OVA rather than the 24 episode stretched out horrid mess it was. Sure it was still somewhat enjoyable and I gave it a 6/10, but it could have been done much better, and up against Index.. Railgun was nothing. At the very least, they shouldn't have changed Misaka's personality so much. She acted closer to what she acts at the end of Index, mixed with Index's actual personality.. then the did at the beginning of Index.. and well Railgun is set before the Index show for the most part.. so the closest resemblance to her personality would be how she acted at the beginning of Index.... not a freakin mix of her personality at the end and then mixed with Index's personality. Ok, first of all, this "filler crap" is actually the story. You're trying too hard to belittle this sequel into something that you think should be an OVA. This was a different approach to the same title with different characters and different themes,plots, etc. TBH, in terms of interest, it was much more amusing to watch To Aru no Majutsu because of the fact that it introduced this world with all the potential it had. Sadly, that anime fell on its face and failed to succeed, even though I enjoyed watching through it. This one, however, was cute, warm, and something that was light hearted with no repetitive recap every single damn episode. In Majutsu, you weren't even GIVEN Misaka's personality or character. She was, for the most part, a character shrouded in mystery whose personality wasn't firmly depicted or even shown. This elaborated on that. I don't even get how you see Index's character in Misaka.... It just doesn't even make sense. Did Misaka ever starve because of Touma? Did Misaka ever bite him? Did she ever pout because Touma wasn't around? How can you say they are a mix when they don't resemble each other in any way? FFS, just appreciate the anime for what it was, nothing more, nothing less. Anyways, it sold a crapload dvds so IDK BOUT YOU, but it seems the Japanese audience enjoyed it. |
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| I enjoyed it, bit Index and Index II were both much better. The sole reason this series is rated higher on MAL than the two aforementioned series is that it's got a female main cast. That's all. |
| This love for Hirasawa Yui consumes me, washing over my dirty weeaboo body with a cleansing warmth that allows me to reach greater heights. It inspires me to be a better man; not the man they deserve, but the man she deserves. Yui, I love you. With everything I have. You are my one, my only. Mai waifu. |
| So far Railgun is A LOT better, imho. I hate beyond ridiculously forced dramas like in Index, more slice of life and a relaxed atmosphere fits this show more. I hope it'll continue like that and no super stpid evil guy shows that trys to slaughter everyone for some super mysterious(stupid) reason. |
winternight119 said: So I hated Index, watched it as it aired, except the last 2 episodes. Finished those last 2 episodes recently. Should I really consider, if "Railgun sucks", to continue this highly popular series /anyway/? This is what I've been wondering. As I am someone who thought that Index season 1 was hopelessly boring, what would you say to me? i hated index too. season 2 was out when i finished it but i haven't bothered to watch it. i picked up railgun 2-3 days ago and finished it just now. i found it much more enjoyable than index, much much more. saying that, i didn't like index as a character, and touma wasn't that great either. that seems to be the general opinion here; if touma was your favourite, you probably wont like railgun. it's true for my case. i'm typically suited to more slice of life with girls as main characters. i'm kinda getting sidetracked here but the reason why there's mixed opinions of railgun is because it's being compared to index, and treated as a sequel (this post was made before index 2 aired). it depends on your taste, and why you hated index. (why did you hate it? it'll probably help me give you a better answer) but yes, railgun was much better. story development wasn't jumpy, (well, compared to index) and it definitely wasn't sudden. i found the fillers enjoyable, and i loved the characters. |
| Railgun was so much more enjoyable than Index (both of them) for me anyway, mainly because of the relative absence of Index's character (who knew). Index (character) regularly left me wishing something horribly (and permanently) violent would happen to her. Mikoto on the other hand while sometimes being frustrating, displays more personailty in the Index series than Index does. Touma... I like him, he's endearing in his own way. I think they should have played up the love-triangle vibe a bit more, it couldn't hurt Indexs' character by her having competition for his attention. The Railgun series also alters the dynamic between Mikoto and Touma, in the Index series she comes across as trying to murder him all the time. But after watching Railgun you know if she was really trying to murder him she'd be doing alot more than trying to flick coins at him. |
| Railgun was enjoyable to me however it didn't really get to the level of craziness as Index does. It feels more of a kind of a comedy with a bit less action but it still was a great watch in my opinion... However I demand more Index seasons and I demand more Touma x Mikoto. |
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