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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Wrapped things up from the previous episode. Too many people getting their hands cut. I'm sure that would suck irl. |
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| Aoshi got defeated so easily. |
| Feel sorry for the deceased. Even if we only knew them for an episode, and as villain at that, their deaths were still tragic. Hope Aoshi finished off the asshole! |
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| nah, it looked like his body was still there and untouched. |
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| Fuck that ass hole, really wish kenshin went a little harder on that guy, he got off easy imo... And that concludes this fantastic arc! I absolutely love the quality of excellence this anime never fails to bring, if only more could hold to this kind of standard. |
| Aoshi's rage with his clenched fists dripping blood was deep. Pretty decent end for the rescue Megumi arc. I liked the role Sanosuke played in all of this and really hoped for a small hint of affection between the two, I guess that's not really his style though. Kenshin seems to be a machine gun bullet-timer, awesome. |
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| I watched the previous episodes(from ep 3) on my phone, away from internet, had some thoughts about them but forgot 'em. Anyways will comment on the next episodes. As for this episode, umm yeah 5/5, nice fight scenes but could have been better. So I should have voted 4/5. |
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| It's tough to buy Kenshin's kind words that the Oniwaban defeated the Gatling gun; some pompous jerk with no military or martial arts training easily killed four highly skilled and experienced warriors who flattered themselves "the strongest". He might have done even better if he had just been more observant and noticed the obstruction in the feed belt. Hyottoko and Hannya's actions amount to being willing cannon fodder. Even Pyrrhus could look askance at such a battle. As usual, this series manages to include an interesting idea; the Oniwaban feel lost and out of place after the war though holding no grudge for being on the losing side. How is a humanistic revolutionary like Kenshin to react? And as usual, the interesting idea is swept aside by overstated melodrama and flashy action; although at least there were no magic spells this time around. |
Fronzel said: It's tough to buy Kenshin's kind words that the Oniwaban defeated the Gatling gun; some pompous jerk with no military or martial arts training easily killed four highly skilled and experienced warriors who flattered themselves "the strongest". This is, for me, important commentary on the state of modern warfare and how warfare in general has evolved from the feudal era. The skill of the swordsman was surely swept away as a more powerful object that took far less skill to operate replaced it. Of course it still takes skill to be efficient with a gun, but is it really the same? This series has thus far poked at a multitude of interesting world issues and questions but, as you said, swept them aside in favor of "melodrama and flashy action." I wonder if it was a mere coincidence that the anime has asked questions about topics such as this or the question of abusive authority in a weapon-controlled environment, or was it just quick ideas thought up to flesh out a shounen and make it more shouneny? Whatever the case, I liked how quickly the Oniwaban were massacred. That's the heaviest the series has gotten yet. I hope to see more of that. |
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| The group of people who wanted to be the 'strongest' died so easily to a gatlin gun. Though, I honestly did not expect a gun of that power to appear so early in the anime, it was a surprise. |
| This episode is an interesting one. The thing I like about it is the way it so quickly flips your perspective - the "bad guys" become the "good guys" within the space of a couple of minutes, and they demonstrate their passion for their leader by making the greatest sacrifice they could make. Although Takeda was clearly wrong in many ways, he was also right in the sense that money is power. He demonstrated this by slaying four, battle-hardened warriors who had years of constant training in the space of a couple of minutes, simply because he had money to purchase a weapon. |
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| Y'know, before this episode, I didn't like the baddies in the slightest, but I nearly cried several times in this ep, it was so sad when they died. ;^; But why did Aoshi say he couldn't put flowers on their graves? Also I hope he doesn't come back to try to beat Kenshin, but instead to maybe DESTROY the worthless money-sucking jerk who shot them. And maybe Kenshin wouldn't be there to stop him... :P Though, the violence or death(shown) in these recent episodes had been a lot, more than I can say I'd like( cuz I prefer not too much graphic violence). So many hands getting cut though. XD And totally shipping Megumi and Sano, since a few episodes back. :P |
| I know I shouldn't ask this, but... Why didn't he used it sooner? He had like the perfect defensive weapon! But nope. Let's throw a bunch of useless guards at the door that won't even have the decency to be defeated on screen. Anyway, I feel like the warriors gave a really poor spectacle against the gatling, but at the same time, that's pretty much what happened when the gatling appeared in Japan. The samurai became useless and fell in a matter of years. It was quite sad, really. |
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| Wow, what a great episode! I loved how the villains ended up dying in a tragic way that made them likeable. This was a great arc and I'm really enjoying this anime so far. |
| Pretty solid episode I must say with really intense action and a great ending! Looking forward to see what the next episode will bring. |
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| How ironic that 4 skilled ninja got killed so easily by Gatling gun! It also showed Oniwaban's awkward situation after political transition. |
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| I liked the message, like that of Metal Gear, on the plight of veterans and such (a topic that was and is still pretty relevant). I did not like the way they carried out the fight between the Oniwaban and the gatling gun. It was just a scene of someone charging into gunfire, getting gunned down, and then a tragic death sequence over and over. I don't really understand why the whole group didn't go around through a different way or why Kenshin didn't attack the gun when the first guy got shot. Kenshin dodging bullets was a little much, beyond what I would have even expected with this. Still, the plight of Megumi and the Oniwaban was quite tragic and exciting. |
| That was a very close death, wouldn't say it was plot armor though, since his strategy was credible. |
| Did Aoshi seriously not kill that guy after Kenshin left him knocked out there.... bruh |
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Satyrelfheim mentioned metal gear already, and yeah I totally saw the parallels too. The Oniwaban Group had many similarities to the elite forces from the MGS games; FOXHOUND, Dead Cell, Cobra Unit. |
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