| I think this one is better than current disappointment like IBO (which overhyped as hell) and mediocre ones like Kuromukuro. But why this Macross entry doesn't got much love here? |
Aventine said: Oh, also, I am too mature to watch moeshit magical girls singing Main reason right now^ Most have already judged the anime for just having an idol group. And the usual "this isn't the Macross that I knew" judgement. |
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| I had never watched anything Macross before this. Someone was reviewing it and said "there's evil in space and idols sing and it cures them just because" and I was hooked instantly. |
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Aventine said: Macross in a giant legal fuck-up here in west= Not much people know of it= people expect it to be a normal mecha anime= WTF-reaction when they dicovered it isnt. Oh, also, I am too mature to watch moeshit magical girls singing You're never too mature to watch a moe anime. I do agree that Tyranny Gold screwed up the franchise for many people, fuck that company. |
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| What? Why is it having an idol group be the reason people just drop it at first glance? Macross always has a different, currently relevant style for its music, that's how we got Macross 7 being kinda Grunge Rock. |
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| I think it is better than Macross F, but no it is not underrated. Macross F is insanely overrated. Can't believe that it is rate over 8 |
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Mizunashii said: You might want to change your view when you go to Japan There's a lot more selection of grimdark manga than anime in Japan. Second idols aren't everything in Japan, the actual singers such as Namie Amuro are better than all of the large manufactured idol groups, also there's Enka which is actually decent and would listen to that over AKB48 at the Olympics. |
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Aventine said: NeoRevan said: What? Why is it having an idol group be the reason people just drop it at first glance? Macross always has a different, currently relevant style for its music, that's how we got Macross 7 being kinda Grunge Rock. plz, I dont watch moe-shit group. Only gritty dark anime coz my life isnt f'cking dark enough. Post so edgy I cut myself just from reading it. |
Aventine said: Oh, also, I am too mature to watch moeshit magical girls singing So mature yet still watches chinese cartoons. -Janet said: Also to say Kuromukuro is mediocre is kinda dumb in its own way the anime is good. Combining action, historical and Mecha is perfect to me. I honestly have no compliant about the series I'm hoping it receives a second season I disagree, Kurumukuro is super fun. Action is good despite cgi, characters animation is beautiful and comedy and characters interactions are great. |
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NoobStomper said: You clearly haven't seen past the first episode. They're not even doing anything crazy anymore in the last battle. I like symphogear, and if anything it would be a nice change to have the singers have a more active role in the battlefield.NeoRevan said: What? Why is it having an idol group be the reason people just drop it at first glance? Macross always has a different, currently relevant style for its music, that's how we got Macross 7 being kinda Grunge Rock. Macross series was a WAR DRAMA with singing thrown in just to spice it up, now its just a moe singing symphogear clone. |
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NoobStomper said: I have watched a couple of episodes, its still doesn't change the fact that this series is not a war drama and is just about some teenagers wanting to sing. No more are the epic galactic wars between races, the stake has been lowered a thousand miles just because POP IDOL CRAZEEEE in Japan (which screams cashgrab btw). You need to keep watching. Right now (as of Episode 6): Windermere is taking over planets left and right. We just got a multiple simultaneous dogfight sequence in an asteroid field. Hayate was just forced to kill someone for the first time - resulting in a well-done scene between him and Mirage resulting in him visibly maturing quite a bit. We've gotten tidbits of political drama (apparently UN Spacy Central Command doesn't care about what's going on in the "outer reaches"), and we're getting some clues as to what's going on with the Windermereans. That mysterious crater, for example. It's already more of a war drama than any Macross entry since the original. You just need to watch more than "a couple of" episodes for that to become clear. |
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| Yeah I agree, funnily enough despite it being so incredibly into the idol stuff, which I don't mind at all since it's pretty entertaining, the war drama in Delta is already more interesting than it was in Frontier. This anime is shaping up to be a pretty solid entry into the franchise imo |
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| Hahaha no. This kind of shit can not be underrated it can only be overrated. I can not be bothered to pick which from the recent mecha anime mentioned is worse IBO or Delta suffice to say both are trash. |
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Aventine said: Macross in a giant legal fuck-up here in west= Not much people know of it= people expect it to be a normal mecha anime= WTF-reaction when they dicovered it isnt. Oh, also, I am too mature to watch moeshit magical girls singing I think the reason the west doesn't receive it well is that they aren't aware of a lot of the thought that went into how to reinvent the series so to speak and how to incorporate all of the original series into the next iteration. Every Macross series has incorporated elements of the series that came before. They even held a contest to select a new vocalist/voice actor for the show just as they did with Macross Frontier (when they selected Megumi Nakajima to play Ranka Lee) So far, Macross Delta has incorporated the fold manipulation from Macross F, has characters that directly descended from protagonists of the previous series, the Valkyries use a modified version of the YF-30 from the Macross 30 video game (I've played it, it's fantastic, but Japan only). I also wouldn't be surprised if we see characters from Macross Frontier and the game or music as Macross Frontier found a way to incorporate music from the original. I had a hard time with the whole idol thing but the way it was explained prior to the series even starting was that they use new technology and fold manipulation which makes sense as that's how the series was heading in Macross F and this is 8 years later. The thing that this series is missing so far is the heart wrenching moments that were in Macross Frontier. I'm hoping that the space opera (even if its planetbound) makes an appearance at some point. |
| I have watched all Macross Series before, some I regret to have watched (macross 7 was #1 on the list of most stupid macross related ever) But, this is a different anime, and I must say, I had high expectations out of it. All of which came down because of uninteresting main protagonist. I didn't mind the space idol idiocy. But... both of the protagonist seemed to lack something. The main hero lacks resolve or wanting something more than just "fly". heroine seems the typical (from Frontier, ranka lee, which I despised for some reason) idol wannabe that somehow manages to get into the music thing. overrated, maybe, still judged it after trying to watch ep 6. which almost put me to sleep as to how uninteresting it was. |
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Dyne_Hikazisha said: I have watched all Macross Series before, some I regret to have watched (macross 7 was #1 on the list of most stupid macross related ever) But, this is a different anime, and I must say, I had high expectations out of it. All of which came down because of uninteresting main protagonist. I didn't mind the space idol idiocy. But... both of the protagonist seemed to lack something. The main hero lacks resolve or wanting something more than just "fly". heroine seems the typical (from Frontier, ranka lee, which I despised for some reason) idol wannabe that somehow manages to get into the music thing. overrated, maybe, still judged it after trying to watch ep 6. which almost put me to sleep as to how uninteresting it was. I agree with your opinion as a long time Macross fan that've watched all canon Macross on DVD. May I hear from you why you considered M7 to be stupid? Personally, I got sick of the idol trend in Japan. ( I think it's kinda stupid as well since it doesn't encourage singers to develop their own style. It rather tell them to stick to their role in the group in sing in that certain way.) So, the theme isn't doing much for me. As an electric guitar player and a rock-and-roll lover, I find myself to relate more to M7. The main isn't doing much for me either. I find him kinda bland and childish. |
NobodyKnow said: Macross Delta is doing good at Japan, that's all you need to know. You should worry about Endride, Conrevo etc... Also, CD ranking: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1511274 I'm agree with you man, it sold more than IBO and A/Z on disc sales |
YK97 said: Dyne_Hikazisha said: I have watched all Macross Series before, some I regret to have watched (macross 7 was #1 on the list of most stupid macross related ever) But, this is a different anime, and I must say, I had high expectations out of it. All of which came down because of uninteresting main protagonist. I didn't mind the space idol idiocy. But... both of the protagonist seemed to lack something. The main hero lacks resolve or wanting something more than just "fly". heroine seems the typical (from Frontier, ranka lee, which I despised for some reason) idol wannabe that somehow manages to get into the music thing. overrated, maybe, still judged it after trying to watch ep 6. which almost put me to sleep as to how uninteresting it was. I agree with your opinion as a long time Macross fan that've watched all canon Macross on DVD. May I hear from you why you considered M7 to be stupid? Personally, I got sick of the idol trend in Japan. ( I think it's kinda stupid as well since it doesn't encourage singers to develop their own style. It rather tell them to stick to their role in the group in sing in that certain way.) So, the theme isn't doing much for me. As an electric guitar player and a rock-and-roll lover, I find myself to relate more to M7. The main isn't doing much for me either. I find him kinda bland and childish. Okay, the first thing that made me drop M7 was the protagonist. He started playing his guitar in the middle of a battle. My thought process was: 1.- Is he deranged? It's war out there. Why in the flying .... is he there? 2.- If enemies find him a distraction, SHOT HIM DOWN 3.- IF they can't because his ship has a good AI that won't let enemies to take him down... then.. SHARE THE FREAKING THING 4.- Seriously? a protagonist that would rather play his guitar than fight enemies? uh... once again, it's war there... he may even distract his own allies, not helping at all. after that episode, I tried to watch more... couldn't stomach anymore of that. |
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Dyne_Hikazisha said: YK97 said: I agree with your opinion as a long time Macross fan that've watched all canon Macross on DVD. May I hear from you why you considered M7 to be stupid? Personally, I got sick of the idol trend in Japan. ( I think it's kinda stupid as well since it doesn't encourage singers to develop their own style. It rather tell them to stick to their role in the group in sing in that certain way.) So, the theme isn't doing much for me. As an electric guitar player and a rock-and-roll lover, I find myself to relate more to M7. The main isn't doing much for me either. I find him kinda bland and childish. Okay, the first thing that made me drop M7 was the protagonist. He started playing his guitar in the middle of a battle. My thought process was: 1.- Is he deranged? It's war out there. Why in the flying .... is he there? 2.- If enemies find him a distraction, SHOT HIM DOWN 3.- IF they can't because his ship has a good AI that won't let enemies to take him down... then.. SHARE THE FREAKING THING 4.- Seriously? a protagonist that would rather play his guitar than fight enemies? uh... once again, it's war there... he may even distract his own allies, not helping at all. after that episode, I tried to watch more... couldn't stomach anymore of that. Well, Basara flew out during the war to sing because he wanted to see for himself if he can rock his enemies out. (which did in the later episodes when his singing affected the protodevils.) One of the things that people don't get why the bad guy can't shoot him down, it's because his flying skills are actually on par with Max Jenius which is the "ace" in the macross universe. There's no AI bullshit, just natural skills. (might as well be the protagonist is op.) As a character, Basara is the down-to-earth pacisfist who refuse absolutely to use violence. You could say his songs are his way of fighting. (That do absolutely jack shit until the second half of the series with the song energy converter and sound booster.)People seem to see him as a jackass and maybe one of the weakest protagonist but you probably want to pay attention how his character develop during the series. It's very easy to miss but it's so golden. The whole air of M7 is very different from what you use to nowadays. It is very casual, much like JoJo. You have to keep an open mind when you watch it. Then, you might find the silliness to be funny. |
YK97May 23, 2016 11:13 AM
YK97 said: Dyne_Hikazisha said: Okay, the first thing that made me drop M7 was the protagonist. He started playing his guitar in the middle of a battle. My thought process was: 1.- Is he deranged? It's war out there. Why in the flying .... is he there? 2.- If enemies find him a distraction, SHOT HIM DOWN 3.- IF they can't because his ship has a good AI that won't let enemies to take him down... then.. SHARE THE FREAKING THING 4.- Seriously? a protagonist that would rather play his guitar than fight enemies? uh... once again, it's war there... he may even distract his own allies, not helping at all. after that episode, I tried to watch more... couldn't stomach anymore of that. Well, Basara flew out during the war to sing because he wanted to see for himself if he can rock his enemies out. (which did in the later episodes when his singing affected the protodevils.) One of the things that people don't get why the bad guy can't shoot him down, it's because his flying skills are actually on par with Max Jenius which is the "ace" in the macross universe. There's no AI bullshit, just natural skills. (might as well be the protagonist is op.) As a character, Basara is the down-to-earth pacisfist who refuse absolutely to use violence. You could say his songs are his way of fighting. (That do absolutely jack shit until the second half of the series with the song energy converter and sound booster.)People seem to see him as a jackass and maybe one of the weakest protagonist but you probably want to pay attention how his character develop during the series. It's very easy to miss but it's so golden. The whole air of M7 is very different from what you use to nowadays. It is very casual, much like JoJo. You have to keep an open mind when you watch it. Then, you might find the silliness to be funny. that's the thing. How on earth can he fly the jet while playing a guitar? uh? He NEEDS both hands ON THE GUITAR. And he does nothing until the upgrades... do nothing but distract the allies. and... Who taught him how to fly? as far as I remember, he was hated by the military because he refused to join them. And Max, the genius of the first Macross teaching him? doubt it. So, nope. Teaching himself... yeah... no. It was too "silly" for me to watch. I hated him from the start and decided not to watch anymore. |
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Dyne_Hikazisha said: YK97 said: Well, Basara flew out during the war to sing because he wanted to see for himself if he can rock his enemies out. (which did in the later episodes when his singing affected the protodevils.) One of the things that people don't get why the bad guy can't shoot him down, it's because his flying skills are actually on par with Max Jenius which is the "ace" in the macross universe. There's no AI bullshit, just natural skills. (might as well be the protagonist is op.) As a character, Basara is the down-to-earth pacisfist who refuse absolutely to use violence. You could say his songs are his way of fighting. (That do absolutely jack shit until the second half of the series with the song energy converter and sound booster.)People seem to see him as a jackass and maybe one of the weakest protagonist but you probably want to pay attention how his character develop during the series. It's very easy to miss but it's so golden. The whole air of M7 is very different from what you use to nowadays. It is very casual, much like JoJo. You have to keep an open mind when you watch it. Then, you might find the silliness to be funny. that's the thing. How on earth can he fly the jet while playing a guitar? uh? He NEEDS both hands ON THE GUITAR. And he does nothing until the upgrades... do nothing but distract the allies. and... Who taught him how to fly? as far as I remember, he was hated by the military because he refused to join them. And Max, the genius of the first Macross teaching him? doubt it. So, nope. Teaching himself... yeah... no. It was too "silly" for me to watch. I hated him from the start and decided not to watch anymore. Have you heard of "motion control"? XD His ability to fly is like a plot hole but we can assume that Ray taught him how to fly since he was the one who gave Basara his fire Valkyrie. (You forgot that Ray was ex-ace war pilot.) |
YK97 said: Dyne_Hikazisha said: that's the thing. How on earth can he fly the jet while playing a guitar? uh? He NEEDS both hands ON THE GUITAR. And he does nothing until the upgrades... do nothing but distract the allies. and... Who taught him how to fly? as far as I remember, he was hated by the military because he refused to join them. And Max, the genius of the first Macross teaching him? doubt it. So, nope. Teaching himself... yeah... no. It was too "silly" for me to watch. I hated him from the start and decided not to watch anymore. Have you heard of "motion control"? XD His ability to fly is like a plot hole but we can assume that Ray taught him how to fly since he was the one who gave Basara his fire Valkyrie. (You forgot that Ray was ex-ace war pilot.) "motion Control" would make his flying pattern easy to predict. I still do not like him. And sincerely believe that the series would be 100% better without him. Don't particularly care who trained him. The fact that he has to focus on the music AND flying while being shot by others or being told to gtfo of the place, isn't something I believe or see as feasible. At this point, the arguing has gone beyond what this thread is supposed to be. An anime I dropped for similar reasons. Not liking the protagonists. It may be on a personal level, but, if I don't like something, I see no reason to keep watching it. |
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| ...which is weird considering this fairly biased NewType article. It seems fine in Japan, but I'm hoping once the series is fully aired it will get the attention it deserves. |
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| We have a magic singer who can kill entire populations of planets from the other side of the galaxy. Lets "free" those planets by killing everyone with song! Wut? If it wasn't Macross, no one would be watching this mess. |
Sokah said: We have a magic singer who can kill entire populations of planets from the other side of the galaxy. Lets "free" those planets by killing everyone with song! Wut? That is simply not true. The magic singer does not kill anyone, nor does his song. Song is just a way to control the people. Although, Alfheim did was wiped out by the Var Syndrome |
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| At least Macross Delta more popular in Japan than IBO and Aldnoah though |
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Hizack123 said: Yup it underrate :p People have blind by "it a idol shit!" And forget to see how drama and fast-pace action it is. Idol's are not even the problem with the show. The first half is decent and I would agree that it is underrated and it had some nice action. The second 13 episodes are literally nonsense with nothing happening. The show failed to establish a main character. The show failed to establish a proper romance or a triangle the show failed to develop any of it's characters The show failed at delivering a proper non-rushed ending or having a proper pacing. Its not underrated. It simply under-deliver. |
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Fai said: Hizack123 said: Yup it underrate :p People have blind by "it a idol shit!" And forget to see how drama and fast-pace action it is. Idol's are not even the problem with the show. The first half is decent and I would agree that it is underrated and it had some nice action. The second 13 episodes are literally nonsense with nothing happening. The show failed to establish a main character. The show failed to establish a proper romance or a triangle the show failed to develop any of it's characters The show failed at delivering a proper non-rushed ending or having a proper pacing. Its not underrated. It simply under-deliver. ^^^I agree. I don't think they planned the second court as well as they did for the first court. |
Fai said: Hizack123 said: Yup it underrate :p People have blind by "it a idol shit!" And forget to see how drama and fast-pace action it is. Idol's are not even the problem with the show. The first half is decent and I would agree that it is underrated and it had some nice action. The second 13 episodes are literally nonsense with nothing happening. The show failed to establish a main character. The show failed to establish a proper romance or a triangle the show failed to develop any of it's characters The show failed at delivering a proper non-rushed ending or having a proper pacing. Its not underrated. It simply under-deliver. Agree with all this. The Scooby Doo undercover episodes made me literally cringe. |
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Farabeuf said: Fai said: Idol's are not even the problem with the show. The first half is decent and I would agree that it is underrated and it had some nice action. The second 13 episodes are literally nonsense with nothing happening. The show failed to establish a main character. The show failed to establish a proper romance or a triangle the show failed to develop any of it's characters The show failed at delivering a proper non-rushed ending or having a proper pacing. Its not underrated. It simply under-deliver. Agree with all this. The Scooby Doo undercover episodes made me literally cringe. Meanwhile stuff like: - Who is Lady M? - Why do Windies have natural fold receptors when it is a Vajra biotech? - Why is protoculture superweapon dependent on Vajra tech when both races literally had zero communication or understanding? - How does any of what just happened solve the racial tensions or NUNs government having shady evil scientist people everywhere? Delta team won the battle but that might not matter next day. How is it even an ending? Are NUNs just gonna abandon the idea of a galaxy wide mind control weapon that they clearly knew about? - Who the hell are all those characters and what do they want? - Who is Hayate as a person? - Are Makina and Reina having hot lesbian sex every night? Remain unanswered. |
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Fai said: Meanwhile stuff like: - Who is Lady M? - Why do Windies have natural fold receptors when it is a Vajra biotech? - Why is protoculture superweapon dependent on Vajra tech when both races literally had zero communication or understanding? - How does any of what just happened solve the racial tensions or NUNs government having shady evil scientist people everywhere? Delta team won the battle but that might not matter next day. How is it even an ending? Are NUNs just gonna abandon the idea of a galaxy wide mind control weapon that they clearly knew about? - Who the hell are all those characters and what do they want? - Who is Hayate as a person? - Are Makina and Reina having hot lesbian sex every night? Remain unanswered. I don't even really care about Delta anymore. It's like beating a dead dog with a stick. Nothing come out of it other than disgusting acts. |
Dasuttebayo said: I think this one is better than current disappointment like IBO (which overhyped as hell) and mediocre ones like Kuromukuro. But why this Macross entry doesn't got much love here? Because compared with other Macross entries this one is mediocre at most. Just a big boring commercial. The songs where catchy the grahics where good but the story was horrible. |
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| It might be underrated because it's the worst Macross TV show yet. Bland characters without any development, unexplored love triangle to the point of Mirage not even qualifying as a love interest, Scooby Doo plot (those meddling kids!) etc. It's not a terrible 2016 show, but it's a bad Macross show. |
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