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Aug 6, 2015 12:52 PM
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first thing people might say when reading the question is that dragonball is an influential series that inspired many of the popular manga in shounen jump like one piece (especially this one), bleach, naruto, etc

but hunter x hunter unlike other shounen jump manga seem to have an almost identical ideas and stuff.

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Gon is extremely similar to Goku to start it will thier names are similar and their hairs are similar. Gon's signature attack (rock paper siccosr) is literally the same as Goku's attack on the first half of dragonball minus the aura and nen of course. Goku has a unique weapon when he was a kid (the red staff), Gon had a unique weapon for the first arc of the story (the fishing pole).

Gon's rage for kite's death is very much like Goku's rage when Krillin first died and when he died in the freiza saga (even the same aura like pressure). Gon is selfish sometimes and very determinted about what he wants and Goku can be very selfish, even putting the lives of others and the Earth itself on danger, simply because he wants a good fight (this in particular some people seem to forget). Goku is naive sometimes and very trusting of people when he shouldn't so is Gon.

Personality wise they are exteremly similar cheerful, competitive, like a good fight, trusting, naive, wants to win a fight cleanly, doesn't take people's charity, their rage, etc

Then there is the chimera ant arc and Meruem.

Meruem's character design is pretty much Freiza + Cell. His personality is extremely similar to Cell.

found this post on a site:
''Meruem shares traits with the main villains from the Dragon Ball series. Like King Piccolo, Vegeta, & Frieza, Meruem has a royal epithet ("The King") and various beings who are loyal to him. Also like the previous 3, he is not above showing cruelty and delighting in it. More specifically like Vegeta and Frieza, he isn't above killing those who are loyal to him; Meruem's body also vaguely resembles Frieza's with the purple color scheme (namely, the deltoids and shins) and using his tail to hit others. Meruem's appearance is also similar to Cell's (in particular his hands, tail & color scheme of green & purple). In addition, Meruem shares the same goals as Cell: initially wanting ultimate power, and then later, wishing to test their abilities & enjoy themselves (though in Meruem's case, he mainly does this through gungi with Komugi); they also both represent the idea of perfection in strength, as they are created to be all-powerful. Finally, like Majin Buu, he is significantly changed from a merciless person to a being capable of compassion because of a person who is greatly weaker than him (in the case of Buu, these people are Bee and Mr. Satan)."

Like King Picoolo Meruem invades a palace and take it over.

So Meruem is basically every Dragon Ball Z villain in one.''


So what do you think?
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Aug 6, 2015 12:53 PM
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tl;dr
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You should PN Mikasa this theory.
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Haven't seen HxH, but HxH is Hxh and Dragon Ball is Dragon Ball.

also tl;dr
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A stupid thread deserves a stupid answer!
Aug 6, 2015 12:57 PM
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what is tl:dr?

rheumat said:
Depends. Which one do you like more? If DBZ, then it's a rip off. If HxH, then a tribute.

i did notice that.

for example hunter x hunter fans who don't like naruto call the similarities a rip off, but when people confront them with dragonball they shrug it off as ''homage'' ''tribute'' ''inspiration''

kinda ironic.
Aug 6, 2015 12:58 PM
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weflynn said:
what is tl:dr?


Too long didn't read.

Aug 6, 2015 12:59 PM
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You should PN Mikasa this theory.


No. I think they should do a collaboration in making alt accounts.
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Aug 6, 2015 1:00 PM

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weflynn said:
what is tl:dr?

rheumat said:
Depends. Which one do you like more? If DBZ, then it's a rip off. If HxH, then a tribute.

i did notice that.

for example hunter x hunter fans who don't like naruto call the similarities a rip off, but when people confront them with dragonball they shrug it off as ''homage'' ''tribute'' ''inspiration''

kinda ironic.
as a hxh fan that likes naruto i will tell you right now that naruto did rip off hxh a couple times.
Aug 6, 2015 1:00 PM

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HxH is the worse version of Dragon Ball
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nope HxH didn't copy anything and your claims are laughable and superficial
whats next attack on titan copied astro boy because they are both animated?
hxh is also better than db so if anything it surpassed it
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fairygood said:
weflynn said:
what is tl:dr?


i did notice that.

for example hunter x hunter fans who don't like naruto call the similarities a rip off, but when people confront them with dragonball they shrug it off as ''homage'' ''tribute'' ''inspiration''

kinda ironic.
as a hxh fan that likes naruto i will tell you right now that naruto did rip off hxh a couple times.

but you like hunter x hunter more, which proves rheumat's point
Aug 6, 2015 1:04 PM

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sullynathan said:
HxH is the worse version of Dragon Ball

it does lack the charm of dragonball but it's pretty good on it's own i think.
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weflynn said:
fairygood said:
as a hxh fan that likes naruto i will tell you right now that naruto did rip off hxh a couple times.

but you like hunter x hunter more, which proves rheumat's point
i like the 1st part of naruto more than hunter x hunter.
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weflynn said:
what is tl:dr?

tl;dr means 'too long;didn't read'

Aug 6, 2015 1:05 PM

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saddy34 said:
nope HxH didn't copy anything and your claims are laughable and superficial
whats next attack on titan copied astro boy because they are both animated?
hxh is also better than db so if anything it surpassed it

Better is subjective.
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saddy34 said:
nope HxH didn't copy anything and your claims are laughable and superficial
whats next attack on titan copied astro boy because they are both animated?
hxh is also better than db so if anything it surpassed it

how are they superficial?
your other example is not really the same, i'm taking about extreme similarities in the content of story and characters

doesn't really matter if it's better or not, thats irrelevant
Aug 6, 2015 1:10 PM

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Inb4 Mikasa.
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They have more differences than similarities for hunta hunta to be a ''rip off'', and most of the similarities only come from Gon. I read that in an interview that HxH's author wanted Gon to be really standard so other characters become more interesting, and well, he nailed it.
Aug 6, 2015 1:11 PM

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dragonball didn't inspire bleach as much as you think.
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Aug 6, 2015 1:13 PM

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It really is awkward when the supposed rip off is miles better than the original.

F/SN and F/Z has a similar awkward relationship. :>
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Inb4 Mikasa.
also add attackontetris
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Every action/adventure shounne made after DB/DBZ is automatically a rip-off.
Just like every real robot series made after Gundam is a rip-off.
Not to mention the fact that every Super Robot series is a rip-off of Mazinger or Getter Robo.
Everything that has pictures is actually a rip-off cave drawings

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ichii_1 said:
dragonball didn't inspire bleach as much as you think.

Yeah, they don't really have much in common. And I never saw a legitmate interview where Kubo cited Akira as one of his inspirations, like Kishimoto and Oda.
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Didn't read the OP but I found some similarities definitely(although Hunter x Hunter 2011 does everything better).

Gon and young Goku are rather similar in how genuine, innocent and pure they are as a result of how they grew up pretty secluded from the rest of the world with Gon on an island and Goku in a jungle. Their bodies are naturally strong and athletic from the environment and they have sky high potential recognized by old legends Netero and Roshi respectively.

Both gain the friend of similar talent that was specially trained before like Kilua and Krillin

Goku's grandfather Gohan is dead/not present in the beginning and Gon is searching for his father

One of the early arcs is a battle tournament. After some training involving weight vests both Gon and Goku are shocked by how powerful they have become and beat everyone in the beginning in 1 hit.

Dragonball clearly had major influence on Hunter x Hunter 2011 but HxH is still much better

Gon and Goku both starting with a G, Kilua and Krillin both starting with K. I know this one is super minor and could be a coincidence but it's interesting.
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robis798 said:
It really is awkward when the supposed rip off is miles better than the original.

F/SN and F/Z has a similar awkward relationship. :>

how would F/Z and F/SN be rip off of each other when there the same series
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hazerddex said:
robis798 said:
It really is awkward when the supposed rip off is miles better than the original.

F/SN and F/Z has a similar awkward relationship. :>

how would F/Z and F/SN be rip off of each other when there the same series

Similar, not the same.
Aug 6, 2015 1:24 PM

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Everything is a rip off or copy of something these days, just like Naruto is a rip off off Hunter x Hunter as a lot of people say.
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Inb4 Mikasa.
Aug 6, 2015 1:26 PM

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Can we not?
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robis798 said:
hazerddex said:

how would F/Z and F/SN be rip off of each other when there the same series

Similar, not the same.

Are you having a brain fart? they are in the same universe and same story, just different time of events.

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Aug 6, 2015 1:42 PM
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Of course it is and I'll explain why.
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Unyilkdr said:

LMAO
Aug 6, 2015 1:46 PM

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Everything it's a ripoff of another thing.
Aug 6, 2015 1:47 PM

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Even if it was a copy of DB, who gives a shit.
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Not only that, but they cloned the pacing for Chimera Ant.
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There are similarities, yes. Superficial ones.
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Aug 6, 2015 3:00 PM

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similarities: they both are anime.
Aug 6, 2015 3:02 PM
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Yes

Now where is Mikasa and his alts
Aug 6, 2015 3:03 PM

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Togashi liked Dragon Ball and admitted it was an influence. So what?

This is just provocative posting and no better than Mikasa's threads.
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BonerBender said:
Not only that, but they cloned the pacing for Chimera Ant.


LMAO
Aug 6, 2015 3:05 PM
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You're a rip-off of Mikasa.
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saddy34 said:
nope HxH didn't copy anything and your claims are laughable and superficial
whats next attack on titan copied astro boy because they are both animated?
hxh is also better than db so if anything it surpassed it


Mikasa spotted
Aug 6, 2015 3:16 PM

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Oh another ripoff thread amazing....First naruto,now hxh whats next One Piece?
Aug 6, 2015 3:22 PM
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Can we not?
Aug 6, 2015 3:23 PM

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Jesus, I said similar relationship, not the same, as in that that F/Z is mostly considered better than F/SN except it's almost a fanfic.
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I've seen 31 episodes of HXH so far and never thought "DragonBall" once.
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Anime_No_Jutsu said:
I've seen 31 episodes of HXH so far and never thought "DragonBall" once.


It rips off the Cell saga and character designs soon enough.
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