| Yes, it is for the most part. |
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| The show that got me into anime seriously was Cowboy Bebop. If it really was mindless entertainment like I thought it was before I watched it, I wouldn't be here today and I would still think that everyone who likes anime including all you MAL folks are losers. But it does seem like the majority of anime shows ARE mindless entertainment, though. |
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| "Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time." |
| Depends on the anime, of course. But yeah, it is very much capable of everything you mentioned! |
| In my mind, everything is just a form of entertainment. Aspects such as being "deep", "emotional", "well-written", "inspirational" or whatever, all of it is still indirectly entertainment since it provides enjoyment value to the show. So it depends on how you look at it |
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| Nope. It has as much potential for thought provoking works as real life TV shows. Sometimes it's not the anime being shallow, it's the viewers looking at it shallowly. HaXXspetten said: In my mind, everything is just a form of entertainment. Aspects such as being "deep", "emotional", "well-written", "inspirational" or whatever, all of it is still indirectly entertainment since it provides enjoyment value to the show. So it depends on how you look at it This. I don't know why people like to separate enjoyment out of everything, it's not mutually exclusive like some people think. |
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| If a film can be thought-provoking, or very entertaining, why can't animation be? I'd discard any comment on a medium unless that person can write a few decent paragraphs about them. I doubt that person even heard of Neil Postman. |
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| your mind sould adapt to anime you watch, not anime that need adapt to your mind. so, none anime that mindless, or deep. you just can adapt to it or not. also: HaXXspetten said: In my mind, everything is just a form of entertainment. Aspects such as being "deep", "emotional", "well-written", "inspirational" or whatever, all of it is still indirectly entertainment since it provides enjoyment value to the show. So it depends on how you look at it |
 "If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| If that's what you make it out to be. While you could study and dissect anime seriously, reaching out into fields of history, film, cultural studies, socioeconomics, and politics, you could just as easily treat it as popcorn entertainment with no more value than Saturday morning cartoons. In the same vein, you could treat textbooks, analytical works, and groundbreaking novels just the same. Sure, anime's main purpose is entertainment, but depending on how you treat it, you get different things out of it. At the very least, treating anime seriously can be good brain exercise, and at best it opens you up to the world through real life connections. But hell, I'm chilling out to Strawberry Marshmellow while really paying attention to Blue Literature, so it's something I do based on the anime. |
| If anime is truly "mindless", then i have no idea where the likes of Kyousogiga, Madoka Magica, and Tatami Galaxy belong to. |
| Certainly not. While it may just really depend on perspective, I'm pretty sure that some anime were made with thought provoking themes and execution, like Shinsekai Yori and Ikuhara works. |
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| How anime can have messages in them or are inspiring is also an entertainment, don't just think that entertaining anime belongs to certain genre like comedy only for example |
 (っ◔◡◔)っ 𝓘 𝔀𝓲𝓼𝓱 𝔂𝓸𝓾 𝓪𝓵𝓵 𝓱𝓪𝓿𝓮 𝓪 𝔀𝓸𝓷𝓭𝓮𝓻𝓯𝓾𝓵 𝓭𝓪𝔂 ♥ |
| Of course not, for example Shinseki Yori. /thread |
HaXXspetten said: In my mind, everything is just a form of entertainment. Aspects such as being "deep", "emotional", "well-written", "inspirational" or whatever, all of it is still indirectly entertainment since it provides enjoyment value to the show. So it depends on how you look at it I guess classic literature is entertainment too. |
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ichii_1 said: Uhh yes? Of course it is.. if you enjoy it that isHaXXspetten said: In my mind, everything is just a form of entertainment. Aspects such as being "deep", "emotional", "well-written", "inspirational" or whatever, all of it is still indirectly entertainment since it provides enjoyment value to the show. So it depends on how you look at it I guess classic literature is entertainment too. |
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| [quote=Shocked]If that's what you make it out to be. While you could study and dissect anime seriously, reaching out into fields of history, film, cultural studies, socioeconomics, and politics, you could just as easily treat it as popcorn entertainment with no more value than Saturday morning cartoons. In the same vein, you could treat textbooks, analytical works, and groundbreaking novels just the same. Sure, anime's main purpose is entertainment, but depending on how you treat it, you get different things out of it. At the very least, treating anime seriously can be good brain exercise, and at best it opens you up to the world through real life connections. But hell, I'm chilling out to Strawberry Marshmellow while really paying attention to Blue Literature, so it's something I do based on the anime.[/quote/]Tru dat😐 |
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HaXXspetten said: well, gintama basicly is japanese history parody. just switch alien with western invaders, then remove all modern things.ichii_1 said: Uhh yes? Of course it is.. if you enjoy it that isI guess classic literature is entertainment too. |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| the fiction you invest in is just another form of masturbation if you aren't taking anything away from it. it's all in your approach and mindset. if you think anime is mindless entertainment then that's what it is to you. if you find yourself discussing themes, deconstructing characters, letting yourself get overwhelmed with emotion from deaths, romance, or even comedy then it is not mindless, it is having an effect on you. you are taking something away from your experience. ka ka ka |
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HaXXspetten said: ichii_1 said: Uhh yes? Of course it is.. if you enjoy it that isI guess classic literature is entertainment too. Even solving complex math problem can be an entertainment too, if you do enjoy it |
(っ◔◡◔)っ 𝓘 𝔀𝓲𝓼𝓱 𝔂𝓸𝓾 𝓪𝓵𝓵 𝓱𝓪𝓿𝓮 𝓪 𝔀𝓸𝓷𝓭𝓮𝓻𝓯𝓾𝓵 𝓭𝓪𝔂 ♥ |
HaXXspetten said: ichii_1 said: Uhh yes? Of course it is.. if you enjoy it that isI guess classic literature is entertainment too. One of the most important things to remember is that "classic" does not necessarily translate to "favorite" or "bestselling" Literature is instead considered classic when it has stood the test of time; and it stands the test of time when the artistic quality it expresses – be it an expression of life, truth, beauty, or anything about the universal human condition – continues to be relevant, and continues to inspire emotional responses, no matter the period in which the work was written. Indeed, classic literature is considered as such regardless of book sales or public popularity. It it is more than just entertainment. |
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ichii_1 said: You're missing the point. All I mean is that if you like something, then you enjoy it. It's really that simple. It doesn't matter how or why you appreciate it or in which sense, but as long as you do... then you are enjoying it. That's all. Even a boring science textbook can be entertaining for someone who's actually interested in that sort of research. It is not something you can objectify. Everything is potentially entertaining in the eyes of the right personHaXXspetten said: Uhh yes? Of course it is.. if you enjoy it that is One of the most important things to remember is that "classic" does not necessarily translate to "favorite" or "bestselling" Literature is instead considered classic when it has stood the test of time; and it stands the test of time when the artistic quality it expresses – be it an expression of life, truth, beauty, or anything about the universal human condition – continues to be relevant, and continues to inspire emotional responses, no matter the period in which the work was written. Indeed, classic literature is considered as such regardless of book sales or public popularity. It it is more than just entertainment. |
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HaXXspetten said: Entertainment? Yeah. Mindless? No. You missed the point of the thread. The enjoyment someone gets from watching some random ecchi romcom or even hentai cannot be equated to that someone gets from classic literature.In my mind, everything is just a form of entertainment. Aspects such as being "deep", "emotional", "well-written", "inspirational" or whatever, all of it is still indirectly entertainment since it provides enjoyment value to the show. So it depends on how you look at it |
Agafin said: Well naturally but it's not like one sort is strictly better than the other either. It's an incredibly subjective thingHaXXspetten said: Entertainment? Yeah. Mindless? No. You missed the point of the thread. The enjoyment someone gets from watching some random ecchi romcom or even hentai cannot be equated to that someone gets from classic literature.In my mind, everything is just a form of entertainment. Aspects such as being "deep", "emotional", "well-written", "inspirational" or whatever, all of it is still indirectly entertainment since it provides enjoyment value to the show. So it depends on how you look at it |
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HaXXspetten said: Agafin said: Well naturally but it's not like one sort is strictly better than the other either. It's an incredibly subjective thingEntertainment? Yeah. Mindless? No. You missed the point of the thread. The enjoyment someone gets from watching some random ecchi romcom or even hentai cannot be equated to that someone gets from classic literature. Hmmm, that depends but generally I agree. Though, while not better some forms of entertainment are more useful than others. And I mostly favour those, but yeah its very subjective. I was mostly hung up on the "mindless" part of the thread. |
| it is entertainment, not mindless entertainment but still... |
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| mindlessness is more of a state of mind than it is a quality of a work of entertainment. You can watch some duper deep and sophisticated stuff but still don't think about it and just be bored by it. It's more a matter of approach than inherently linked to specific series. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| Not sure how entertainment can be mindless. It's a way to deal with stress and the strokes of reality. Entertainment is beneficial for our well-being. |
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| It's not just anime though. Take GOT (the book) and Siddharta. Both great books one is almost all mindlessly intricate and complex entertainment while the other is a book thst will if not change your outlook on life but at least provide a new perspective. It's the same with movies. As well as anime take tatami galaxy and Aldnoah zero one is a life lesson packed in a splendid narrative while the other is a good summer blockbuster. Edit; tbh I had trouble coming up with "mindless entertainment" examples of anime. |
MrHawkyJul 4, 2015 1:07 PM
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| Yes it is just mindless entertainment. You watch anime with your eyes not your mind |
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| Yes |
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| Most of the time in my opinion. When someone says something is mindless, he assumes there are exceptions but doesn't care most of the time. Just because anime can be "deep" doesn't mean all anime are deep. Mindless entertainment isn't necessarily bad, for example I enjoy shows like Seitokai Yakuindomo and Code Geass but it disturbs me when shows masquerades as quality entertainment for the sake of higher rating. |
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ichii_1 said: HaXXspetten said: In my mind, everything is just a form of entertainment. Aspects such as being "deep", "emotional", "well-written", "inspirational" or whatever, all of it is still indirectly entertainment since it provides enjoyment value to the show. So it depends on how you look at it I guess classic literature is entertainment too. Any critic who doesn't find 'entertaining' a desirable quality is silly and useless. There's plenty of entertainment to be found in canonical literature. It looks menacing, but you're supposed to be entertained by Herzog's silliness, or how McCarthy describes the deserts. |
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| Yeah, the majority of anime is purely entertainment but that's how it is with every medium and there's nothing wrong with that necessarily. |
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| Even the deep anime are placed for entertainment purposes and deep doesn't automatically mean good. |
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| Sometimes. Sometimes not. It depends on the show. Even if it is, that's not a bad thing. |
KruszerJul 4, 2015 7:28 PM
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LionCake said: Of course not, for example Shinseki Yori. /thread LOL |
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Kagami_Hiiragi said: Even the deep anime are placed for entertainment purposes and deep doesn't automatically mean good. deep means effort and ambition in some cases and it targets a mature audience so yes its good for people who r looking for more then just cheesy SOL and romance anime thats repetitive and never goes no where. |
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| Obviously, that's why one of the most popular shows recently is a porn game adaptation. |
| I have almost 500 shows watched, so clearly I don't think it just mindless entertainment and I get a lot out of some of the shows I watch. |
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Feaor said: Obviously, that's why one of the most popular shows recently is a porn game adaptation. that really isnt fair though, the themes and ideas explored are so much more then that ... so reducing fate to a porn game is kind of unfair. |
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| a lot of it is, but there are also a lot of deep anime. |
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