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Jun 26, 2015 10:53 PM
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I kinda understand what they are talking at the end but I kinda don't understand. Can someone else explain to me what they are going on about.
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Jun 26, 2015 11:02 PM
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Basically all you gotta know is that Yui wanted to keep their feelings towards Hikigaya on hold and have the relationship they have continuing. Yukinoshita was about to accept but Hikigaya declines for her because that kind of fake relationship isn't what Hikigaya wants ( He wants the genuine/true/real thing ) and wanted Yukinoshita to decide for herself and solve the problems herself.

Yui wanted everything just like she said, however she ultimately knows she can't attain everything without losing something which is shown and told.

I don't know if Yui said the whole "lets keep this relationship on hold" thing while knowing that Hikigaya would reject it (just like the said "I knew you would say that") but I'm sure she was okay with whatever that was going to happen imo.

We pretty much can assume that the trio all know how their relationship is towards each other and at this point is where the anime is cut off.


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Jun 26, 2015 11:04 PM
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This is just my interpretation so take it with a grain of salt.

1.Hachiman put labels onto people because it's then easy for him to characterize people and their interactions. Yui, as he labeled was a nice girl and Yukinon is a strong willed girl.

But as he finds out Yukinon has her share of problems, specifically when standing up for herself and creating her own path and decisions. Yui however will use means that may be deemed inappropriate to further her own agenda. Like when she said I'll take everything it most likely meant that she gets to control the way the club will go on form then and gets the first shot at Hachiman's love.

2.Hachiman as he stated doesn't want bonds that aren't real and are just there because the can be he wants something genuine.

3. So when Yui offers to pretty much handle Yukinon's problems Hachiman rejects this because it goes against what he feels is right. As he said somebody shouldn't chose someone else's life for them so he was to some degree disgusted with Yui and Yukinon.

So the finale ended off with us getting Yukinon's request and them choosing to help her but not make any key decisions. Yui more or less got her feelings across and Hachiman is happy that they are going into a direction where something genuine is possible even though it may end up hurting all three of them.
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Jun 26, 2015 11:49 PM
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1.Hachiman put labels onto people because it's then easy for him to characterize people and their interactions. Yui, as he labeled was a nice girl and Yukinon is a strong willed girl.

But as he finds out Yukinon has her share of problems, specifically when standing up for herself and creating her own path and decisions. Yui however will use means that may be deemed inappropriate to further her own agenda. Like when she said I'll take everything it most likely meant that she gets to control the way the club will go on form then and gets the first shot at Hachiman's love.

2.Hachiman as he stated doesn't want bonds that aren't real and are just there because the can be he wants something genuine.

3. So when Yui offers to pretty much handle Yukinon's problems Hachiman rejects this because it goes against what he feels is right. As he said somebody shouldn't chose someone else's life for them so he was to some degree disgusted with Yui and Yukinon.


Yeah don't forget though, Yui told Hachiman "I thought you'd say that". Yui also wanted Yukino to make her own decisions. That's why she stared so intently at Yukino fighting for a response. I believe there's a reason she invited Both of them out and initiated that conversation. She knew Yukino wouldn't make her own choice (she was about to say "I wouldn't mind that" but Hachiman isn't the type to stay silent, and he didn't, opening Yukino's eyes in the process. Yui stated she wants it all. Her friendship and the guy, but she already knows it's not possible. Basically, she was making effort to bring it up to Yukino who just "goes with the flow" and feigns ignorance when it comes to those things.
Jun 26, 2015 11:50 PM
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- Yui is going to start being competitive over Hikki's love with Yukinon
- Yui calls everyone out on a "group date" as "one last hurrah" with everyone together as they have been before she starts taking the aggressive approach
- Yui wants to win the bet that took place at the beginning of season one where whoever solves the most challenges gets to ask whoever to do whatever
- Yui wants to win so she can ask Hikki to go out with her
- Yui knows that Yukinon really really wants the trio to stay together, and so Yui asks her if it's okay to do that
- Thus, this makes Yui really unfair and deceiving since she knows Yukinon won't be able to say "no" to her
- When Yukinon is about to say "yes" (really her only option), Hikki steps in since he notices Yukinon being unable to speak for herself
- He doesn't agree that it's okay for a bet to determine what someone can and cannot do
- If Yui wins the bet and does with it what she plans to do, Yukinon won't be able to tell Hikki her feelings, so that is why Hikki is against this (since she wouldn't be able to do what she wanted, which is unfair. It's like controlling someone's options in life, which Hikki definitely doesn't agree with)
- Yukinon says "this isn't the final anything" since they still have to do Hikki's request. They still need to find something genuine. She wants them to all still stay together regardless of what relationships they may have currently or in the future
- Yukinon has a request for the Service Club, but... CLIFFHANGER (she doesn't tell us what the request is)
Jun 27, 2015 12:16 AM
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DoctorWasabi said:
- Yui is going to start being competitive over Hikki's love with Yukinon
- Yui calls everyone out on a "group date" as "one last hurrah" with everyone together as they have been before she starts taking the aggressive approach
- Yui wants to win the bet that took place at the beginning of season one where whoever solves the most challenges gets to ask whoever to do whatever
- Yui wants to win so she can ask Hikki to go out with her
- Yui knows that Yukinon really really wants the trio to stay together, and so Yui asks her if it's okay to do that
- Thus, this makes Yui really unfair and deceiving since she knows Yukinon won't be able to say "no" to her
- When Yukinon is about to say "yes" (really her only option), Hikki steps in since he notices Yukinon being unable to speak for herself
- He doesn't agree that it's okay for a bet to determine what someone can and cannot do
- If Yui wins the bet and does with it what she plans to do, Yukinon won't be able to tell Hikki her feelings, so that is why Hikki is against this (since she wouldn't be able to do what she wanted, which is unfair. It's like controlling someone's options in life, which Hikki definitely doesn't agree with)
- Yukinon says "this isn't the final anything" since they still have to do Hikki's request. They still need to find something genuine. She wants them to all still stay together regardless of what relationships they may have currently or in the future
- Yukinon has a request for the Service Club, but... CLIFFHANGER (she doesn't tell us what the request is)


Are you guys kidding me? Most of you have the wrong impression of Yui.

If she wanted Hikigaya for himself she would have asked only asked him on a date.

Her plan was to be the wingman, she knew Hikigaya would step in and stop her "grand scheme" thats why she was smiling and teared at the end.

The proposal was meant to be stopped, if Yukinon agreed, it wouldn't have been what Yui wanted. But it was the best thing she could think of, she would have probably backed out if yukinon confessed or gave her chocolate.

Part of why Hikigaya stopped this nonsense was because he knew Yui wasn't being true to herself and that she didn't really want what she was saying. Same with Yukino.

In short, Yui pulled a Hachiman. In order for any growth to be possible and problems to be resolved there needs to be conflict. And she was the conflict. She was sacrificing herself. It was evident since episode 12, where she refused hikigaya twice because she knew yukinon liked him.

She was giving up her feelings in order to let yukinon and hachiman's relationship grow.
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Jun 27, 2015 12:17 AM
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Dragon0129 said:
I kinda understand what they are talking at the end but I kinda don't understand.
It's ok

Jun 27, 2015 12:18 AM
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Are you guys kidding me? Most of you have the wrong impression of Yui.

If she wanted Hikigaya for himself she would have asked only asked him on a date.

Her plan was to be the wingman, she knew Hikigaya would step in and stop her "grand scheme" thats why she was smiling and teared at the end.

Part of why Hikigaya stopped this nonsense was because he knew Yui wasn't being true to herself and that she didn't really want what she was saying. Same with Yukino.


yes, i said something similar. yui had a reason for saying it with both of them present.
Jun 27, 2015 12:49 AM
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Pretty much what everyone else said. And like the episode when Hikki talked about something genuine they put it all out there. Yukino said." it wasn't the final anything." None of them can go into dating or anything else until Yukino and Hachiman both deal with their issues. So we won't see any dating at all until they finish Hikki's request of something genuine. And Yukino request will most likely be about being able to make her own decisions and be her own person. So my guess would be there is at max 2-3 volumes after volume 11. Which will deal with all that until the final ending of will they stay friends even if Hachiman dates one of them.Or will they just stay friends without dating.Or will they just grow apart after high school.
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SquirrelKing said:
DoctorWasabi said:
- Yui is going to start being competitive over Hikki's love with Yukinon
- Yui calls everyone out on a "group date" as "one last hurrah" with everyone together as they have been before she starts taking the aggressive approach
- Yui wants to win the bet that took place at the beginning of season one where whoever solves the most challenges gets to ask whoever to do whatever
- Yui wants to win so she can ask Hikki to go out with her
- Yui knows that Yukinon really really wants the trio to stay together, and so Yui asks her if it's okay to do that
- Thus, this makes Yui really unfair and deceiving since she knows Yukinon won't be able to say "no" to her
- When Yukinon is about to say "yes" (really her only option), Hikki steps in since he notices Yukinon being unable to speak for herself
- He doesn't agree that it's okay for a bet to determine what someone can and cannot do
- If Yui wins the bet and does with it what she plans to do, Yukinon won't be able to tell Hikki her feelings, so that is why Hikki is against this (since she wouldn't be able to do what she wanted, which is unfair. It's like controlling someone's options in life, which Hikki definitely doesn't agree with)
- Yukinon says "this isn't the final anything" since they still have to do Hikki's request. They still need to find something genuine. She wants them to all still stay together regardless of what relationships they may have currently or in the future
- Yukinon has a request for the Service Club, but... CLIFFHANGER (she doesn't tell us what the request is)


Are you guys kidding me? Most of you have the wrong impression of Yui.

If she wanted Hikigaya for himself she would have asked only asked him on a date.

Her plan was to be the wingman, she knew Hikigaya would step in and stop her "grand scheme" thats why she was smiling and teared at the end.

The proposal was meant to be stopped, if Yukinon agreed, it wouldn't have been what Yui wanted. But it was the best thing she could think of, she would have probably backed out if yukinon confessed or gave her chocolate.

Part of why Hikigaya stopped this nonsense was because he knew Yui wasn't being true to herself and that she didn't really want what she was saying. Same with Yukino.

In short, Yui pulled a Hachiman. In order for any growth to be possible and problems to be resolved there needs to be conflict. And she was the conflict. She was sacrificing herself. It was evident since episode 12, where she refused hikigaya twice because she knew yukinon liked him.

She was giving up her feelings in order to let yukinon and hachiman's relationship grow.


She did not give up her feelings at all from what I can see. She gave cookies to Hachiman IN FRONT of Yukino. That is not something that seems like giving up to me. Also..I'm not saying that Yui is bad at all cause from what I can see..she cares a lot about Yukino. That is why she wants to have a fair fight with her. She wants to keep this friendship between them but she also knows that saying her true feelings would ruin the whole Trio thing. I'm pretty sure that Yukino knows that Yui likes Hachi and Yui knows that Yukino likes Hachi. This episode showed that unlike Yukino..Yui is able to show her true feelings. That is probably why Yukino says ''You are amazing'' or something like that after Yui gave her cookies to Hachiman openly. She also knows that Yukino saying her true feelings would break this Trio thing going on. That is why she herself says that she is not as nice as you think. Because Yui does not want Yukino to confess but she is not cruel enough to confess herself. She wants to keep going like this. However...hiding true emotions is not something genuine and this is what Hachiman didn't like. Yui was pressuring Yukino into making a decision on the spot and Hachiman didn't like that. He wants to have a genuine relationship where no one would need to hold back..however..right now...there is nothing genuine about this Trio's relationship. Yui and Yukino are hiding what they feel because they are scared of breaking up this bond that they have formed. But not staying true to yourself is not something genuine either. This is why I'm looking very forward to how the story will move forward. I can't wait.
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SquirrelKing said:


Are you guys kidding me? Most of you have the wrong impression of Yui.

If she wanted Hikigaya for himself she would have asked only asked him on a date.

Her plan was to be the wingman, she knew Hikigaya would step in and stop her "grand scheme" thats why she was smiling and teared at the end.

The proposal was meant to be stopped, if Yukinon agreed, it wouldn't have been what Yui wanted. But it was the best thing she could think of, she would have probably backed out if yukinon confessed or gave her chocolate.

Part of why Hikigaya stopped this nonsense was because he knew Yui wasn't being true to herself and that she didn't really want what she was saying. Same with Yukino.

In short, Yui pulled a Hachiman. In order for any growth to be possible and problems to be resolved there needs to be conflict. And she was the conflict. She was sacrificing herself. It was evident since episode 12, where she refused hikigaya twice because she knew yukinon liked him.

She was giving up her feelings in order to let yukinon and hachiman's relationship grow.


She did not give up her feelings at all from what I can see. She gave cookies to Hachiman IN FRONT of Yukino. That is not something that seems like giving up to me. Also..I'm not saying that Yui is bad at all cause from what I can see..she cares a lot about Yukino. That is why she wants to have a fair fight with her. She wants to keep this friendship between them but she also knows that saying her true feelings would ruin the whole Trio thing. I'm pretty sure that Yukino knows that Yui likes Hachi and Yui knows that Yukino likes Hachi. This episode showed that unlike Yukino..Yui is able to show her true feelings. That is probably why Yukino says ''You are amazing'' or something like that after Yui gave her cookies to Hachiman openly. She also knows that Yukino saying her true feelings would break this Trio thing going on. That is why she herself says that she is not as nice as you think. Because Yui does not want Yukino to confess but she is not cruel enough to confess herself. She wants to keep going like this. However...hiding true emotions is not something genuine and this is what Hachiman didn't like. Yui was pressuring Yukino into making a decision on the spot and Hachiman didn't like that. He wants to have a genuine relationship where no one would need to hold back..however..right now...there is nothing genuine about this Trio's relationship. Yui and Yukino are hiding what they feel because they are scared of breaking up this bond that they have formed. But not staying true to yourself is not something genuine either. This is why I'm looking very forward to how the story will move forward. I can't wait.


I think yui giving chocolates was to give yukino momentum to give hers too just like in the club room she was like 'what's out hikki'
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She did not give up her feelings at all from what I can see. She gave cookies to Hachiman IN FRONT of Yukino. That is not something that seems like giving up to me.


while saying, "this is just gratitude ----for saving my dog back there, nothing romantic about it----"
as much as it was a lie, was i the only one to read that between the lines?

(obviously i wasn't the only one, that's just a way to talk)

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https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/3b9vw5/spoilers_yahari_ore_no_seishun_love_comedy_wa/

dont know if i am allowed to post it here but the reddit threads always have very thorough analysis of the episodes that can help if you didn't get parts of an episode
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Thank you OP for posting this. I have followed this entire season really well until the last 5 minutes or so of this episode, and then I was just confused by all that was left unsaid. It turns out, from this comments in this thread, that I basically comprehended everything. The debate over Yui's true intentions has been valuable though, so I'm really glad I saw this thread and was able to form a fuller opinion of the entire thing (I'm going to lean with the idea that she is pushing Hachiman and Yukino together by creating conflict like Hachi did in the beginning). This show is suffering from some major Shoujo syndrome right now though, like no one is communicating their feelings clearly and it is just a lot of drama over unspoken feelings. I love this generally, but not as a finale!!! I just felt like it needed something more... What a cliffhanger ugh.
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This show is frustratingly good because the author (and the wonderful job Feel is doing adapating it) makes things as ambiguous as possible. Literally every possibility is potentially true.

I am curious about two things, one why did Hachiman accept a "date" with Yui? Second, when Yui was comparing the jellyfish to fireworks and the three were at the window, notice Hachiman's eyes. Who is he looking at? This is the second episode in a row where Hachiman had a memory about something he and Yui did in the past.

So on the surface both Yui and Yukino know the other is in love with Hachiman, Yui thinks Hachiman is in love with Yukino, and Yukino is afraid to put herself out.

But why? That dependency thing? Is that really the problem with her (and god knows she has a lot of them, what was with the sharks (and why did Yui know to apologize)), but is that the case this time?

No, I think what Yukino fears is that Hachiman loves her, but while she likes and greatly respects Hachiman she is not in love with him, in short the cookies were giri not honne chocolate. Why she was afraid to give them to him was because she was afraid he would misunderstand, not as Yui supposed with her just being bashful.

There is the strong possibility that Yukino is already in an unrequited love situation (hence her getting sad about the life pair bonding line and why she can't move forward), and would reject Hachiman were he to propose. She knows that if this happens then the three to break up because everyone would feel rejected (Hachiman by Yukino, Yui by Hachiman, and Yukino by the other two), and that is what she is afraid of since they are the first friends she has ever had and the first people she could ever rely on.

Hachiman likewise noticed that Yui was about to defer to Yukino, and Hachiman stopped it both because he didn't want that to happen, and because he believes Yukino does like him, or rather is confusing dependence for love (which is why he was so upset when she parroted him when she called her sister). In a nice bit of adapting did anyone notice how when she was looking out the window, to Hachiman it seemed that one of her eyes was staring straight at him?

So basically all three of them are misreading the situation, all of them are willing to sacrifice for the others, but there really isn't anything to sacrifice.

True? Only Watari knows, but that was what I got after understanding this episode. But I love thinking about all the hints this show has given and trying to figure out how these fit together, only this puzzle can create different designs if you just rearrange the pieces.

If this is true then the rest is simple. Yukino loves Hayato, but there is something with her family preventing that from happening (and somehow dogs enter into it). Hayato returns the feelings, but thinks Yukino doesn't. So they are at a standoff, with both thinking the other doesn't like them, and both sacrificing themselves for the other. In other words, the same exact thing as now. History is repeating, and it will be up to Hachiman to prevent that from happening and restore what is right in the universe.
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How could Yukinon not love Hikki?


Because love is not rational. People do not always make the best choice when it comes to love.

Now, personally I think that Hachiman and Yukino would make a better pair. I am a firm believer in intellectual compatibility, but that is not a universal viewpoint, and in this case I don't think it is the case.


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Plus, she always gets bashful around him. Nursery scene? Dropping the cookie pan scene? Remember any of that?


Yep. But embarrassment could also explain all those scenes. They are all scenes where, in a normal rom-com the two characters WOULD fall in love after just one scene, that there were multiple such scenes I suggest should put us on guard. After all, according to the title, this is not a normal rom-com.

That last point is ultimately why I doubt the pairing. It is being TOO emphasized, which makes it too plain. Watari is jerking us.

As for the rest of your post, I think all that is true. I just think Hachiman is afraid to deny Yukino because of what Haruno said about rejection and because he thinks she is dependent on him (and because he understands her family life is bad), and he doesn't want to hurt her. But that would be his misunderstanding.

He respects her and wants to help her, but that isn't the same as being in love with her. He wants to help her, but he isn't as good at reading people as he thinks he is. His cynical nature, accepting that what Haruno said was true, is what he needs to correct in order to advance.
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I kinda understand what they are talking at the end but I kinda don't understand. Can someone else explain to me what they are going on about.


TheButteredPotato:

I've seen a lot of comments saying how they didn't understand this episode and how it ended, or what even happened at all. So, I'm going to do my best at explaining what (I think, and am mostly sure of) happened:

OBVIOUS INFORMATION (some people may actually need this):
- Yui loves Hikki
- Yukinon loves Hikki
- All three of them want to stay friends
- If anyone confesses, the trio's relationship will become awkward and everyone will get hurt in the end since they'll most likely lose someone
- MY OUTLOOK: Hikki likes Yukinon but also wants to be friends with Yui. NOT CONFIRMED!!!

THIS EPISODE:
- Yui is going to start being competitive over Hikki's love with Yukinon
- Yui calls everyone out on a "group date" as "one last hurrah" with everyone together as they have been before she starts taking the aggressive approach
- Yui wants to win the bet that took place at the beginning of season one where whoever solves the most challenges gets to ask whoever to do whatever
- Yui wants to win so she can ask Hikki to go out with her
- Yui knows that Yukinon really really wants the trio to stay together, and so Yui asks her if it's okay to do that
- Thus, this makes Yui really unfair and deceiving since she knows Yukinon won't be able to say "no" to her
- When Yukinon is about to say "yes" (really her only option), Hikki steps in since he notices Yukinon being unable to speak for herself
- He doesn't agree that it's okay for a bet to determine what someone can and cannot do
- If Yui wins the bet and does with it what she plans to do, Yukinon won't be able to tell Hikki her feelings, so that is why Hikki is against this (since she wouldn't be able to do what she wanted, which is unfair. It's like controlling someone's options in life, which Hikki definitely doesn't agree with)
- Yukinon says "this isn't the final anything" since they still have to do Hikki's request. They still need to find something genuine. She wants them to all still stay together regardless of what relationships they may have currently or in the future
- Yukinon has a request for the Service Club, but... CLIFFHANGER (she doesn't tell us what the request is)
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Make out what you will with this, personally I think this is the best way to think about it and to me it sounds pretty spot on to what's currently happening.

https://data.archive.moe/board/a/image/1435/39/1435399375898.jpg


If there's something that I do disagree with on this post however..

I don't think Yui has given up, after you read her diary then you could see that Hikki means so much more to her than she probably realizes.

Conclusion, I really love both of them. I don't want to see either of them get hurt, but I want to see this conclude without an open ending. I can't decide who I want to win.
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This show is frustratingly good because the author (and the wonderful job Feel is doing adapating it) makes things as ambiguous as possible. Literally every possibility is potentially true.

I am curious about two things, one why did Hachiman accept a "date" with Yui? Second, when Yui was comparing the jellyfish to fireworks and the three were at the window, notice Hachiman's eyes. Who is he looking at? This is the second episode in a row where Hachiman had a memory about something he and Yui did in the past.

So on the surface both Yui and Yukino know the other is in love with Hachiman, Yui thinks Hachiman is in love with Yukino, and Yukino is afraid to put herself out.

But why? That dependency thing? Is that really the problem with her (and god knows she has a lot of them, what was with the sharks (and why did Yui know to apologize)), but is that the case this time?

No, I think what Yukino fears is that Hachiman loves her, but while she likes and greatly respects Hachiman she is not in love with him, in short the cookies were giri not honne chocolate. Why she was afraid to give them to him was because she was afraid he would misunderstand, not as Yui supposed with her just being bashful.

There is the strong possibility that Yukino is already in an unrequited love situation (hence her getting sad about the life pair bonding line and why she can't move forward), and would reject Hachiman were he to propose. She knows that if this happens then the three to break up because everyone would feel rejected (Hachiman by Yukino, Yui by Hachiman, and Yukino by the other two), and that is what she is afraid of since they are the first friends she has ever had and the first people she could ever rely on.

Hachiman likewise noticed that Yui was about to defer to Yukino, and Hachiman stopped it both because he didn't want that to happen, and because he believes Yukino does like him, or rather is confusing dependence for love (which is why he was so upset when she parroted him when she called her sister). In a nice bit of adapting did anyone notice how when she was looking out the window, to Hachiman it seemed that one of her eyes was staring straight at him?

So basically all three of them are misreading the situation, all of them are willing to sacrifice for the others, but there really isn't anything to sacrifice.

True? Only Watari knows, but that was what I got after understanding this episode. But I love thinking about all the hints this show has given and trying to figure out how these fit together, only this puzzle can create different designs if you just rearrange the pieces.

If this is true then the rest is simple. Yukino loves Hayato, but there is something with her family preventing that from happening (and somehow dogs enter into it). Hayato returns the feelings, but thinks Yukino doesn't. So they are at a standoff, with both thinking the other doesn't like them, and both sacrificing themselves for the other. In other words, the same exact thing as now. History is repeating, and it will be up to Hachiman to prevent that from happening and restore what is right in the universe.
I think you have not read the Light novels. Now i will put some of 8man's monologues from certain scenes that were shown in the anime

Rollercoster scene

This scene as well as the expression on 8man's face tells that this had a big impact on him after her request.
Now the train scene in volume 10
This scene indicates that he wants to know more about Yukino. Something he has never thought of for any other girl.
Now another service club scene in volume 10
Her it's obvious that they were not normal blushes but rather 8man's was actually attracted to her and the same can be said for her.
Now the Infirmary scene where you think that it's nothing but normal blush


8man has never thought of Yui like this in the whole series.
This moment also tells a lot as he was pretty much describing her every feature while staring at her. This is not a normal blush.

I don't know why you are saying that Hachiman feels nothing towards Yukino as all the above scenes prove that he wants to know more about her and is attracted to her.

Hachiman accepted Yui's date because he had promised her which is again mentioned in volume 9 and episode 9 as well. I don't know why you think that 8man has feelings for her just because he decided to keep their promise. He can be thinking that it's something he has to fulfill their promise nothing shows that he has romantic feelings for her.Also of course he will remember the fireworks scene. He had watched the fireworks scene with her like 4 to 5 months ago. Just because you remember some scene with someone doesn't mean that you are in love with them. He also remembered the pan-san scene with Yukino as well in their conversation with Yukino after the rollercoster scene.


If she fears that 8man loves her and she doesn't have feelings for him then why would she want to give him chocolates after already giving him cookies? also why would she get flustered if she has no feelings for him. Also why would she back off from giving him the chocolates and feel sad for not being able to give them twice? If she has no feelings for him it would be an easy task for her. It's very obvious that she was in panic on how to give it to him and hence was worried when Yui decided to leave. With the mess Yukino is right now why would she want to give chocolates to someone who she doesn't even love ?

Please give me some proof that Yukino has unrequited love for Hayato. From volume 1-4 it's proves that she really hates hayato ,even 8man realises that. It proves that something happened between them and Hayato hurt her in the past. Her thanking him for being considerate of her proves that she is actually over him and is moving forward. If she has no feelings for 8man then would she get worried whrn haruno mentioned that Yukino gave Hayato chocolates/cookies in the past and look at 8man's reaction? By your logic she should feel happy that Haruno is helping her in making Hayato remember the past event. Also by the end of Volume 11 8man is aware of Yukino's dependancy issues. But he also knows that she can face her problems all she needs is some encouragement. 8man even says that Yukino is a strong girl.

You are saying that Yukino left them alone in the penguine scene because she has feelings for Hayato? It rather seems that she know that she is a mess right now and is a third wheel on their date. Also she might be thinking that she doesn't deserve 8man as by that point it's pretty obvious that she knows that Yui has feelings for 8man. Also even though she left the two alone 8man still went to her. If he loves Yui then why did he go after Yukino she even said that she will be inside. By your logic their would be no reason for him to go after Yukino.

Also the most important point why was Yukino so sad when Yui asked her to agree with her. It's obvious that she was at her breaking point. If she has no feelings for 8man she would have said to Yui to go after 8man. Considering the mess she is right now it would have easy for her to avoid any unnecessary love traingle. Also if she loves Hayato then why would she get mad at him for calling her by first name?

Throughout the series(i am talking about LN) 8man has shown growing interest in Yukino and feels attracted to her. He wants to know more about her. Yukino's actions by no means show her being in love with hayato but rather her getting over him and their issue. I think your imagination is going wild as the hints in LN proves something else.
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So the show ended and I still haven't figured out what's up with the idiotic vague dialogues.
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So the show ended and I still haven't figured out what's up with the idiotic vague dialogues.

HAHAHAHA okay Try to solve it by yourself its more fun in that way, I'll just give you something Clues

Yui Love Hikki
Yukino Love Hikki
Yui want to date Hikki and Maintain the friendship
Yui maked a moved first Because if she didnt, who will?
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8man has never thought of Yui like this in the whole series.


I had been in the Yukino camp up until this episode, but there was a flashback around the 3:35 mark of last episode that started me thinking that Watari is fooling us by downplaying Yui too much previously, the flashback this episode (remembering the fireworks) and the final scene is what pushed me into the Yui camp.

So the above scenes from the novels I know very well, and yes they suggest that Yukino and Hachiman have been slowly falling in love with the other, but where is the "Screw Up" in that? If Yukino is the end goal, then this will have been a pretty normal rom com: two people meet, they initially don't like each other, but slowly over time their feelings change. Don't you think Watari is better than that? His title promised us more.

So I wouldn't say my theory above is based on imagination as much as it is based on suspicion.
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8man has never thought of Yui like this in the whole series.


I had been in the Yukino camp up until this episode, but there was a flashback around the 3:35 mark of last episode that started me thinking that Watari is fooling us by downplaying Yui too much previously, the flashback this episode (remembering the fireworks) and the final scene is what pushed me into the Yui camp.

So the above scenes from the novels I know very well, and yes they suggest that Yukino and Hachiman have been slowly falling in love with the other, but where is the "Screw Up" in that? If Yukino is the end goal, then this will have been a pretty normal rom com: two people meet, they initially don't like each other, but slowly over time their feelings change. Don't you think Watari is better than that? His title promised us more.

So I wouldn't say my theory above is based on imagination as much as it is based on suspicion.
If that's what the author is doing, then Iroha should be the end girl xDD

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I think EVERYone has their own thoughts on this episode but for me the explanation given on the reddit forum (Link below) matchedthe most with the summary of this Final Episode.

http://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/3b9vw5/spoilers_yahari_ore_no_seishun_love_comedy_wa/csk8897
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If that's what the author is doing, then Iroha should be the end girl xDD


Nah, that wouldn't be suspicious. It would be a relatively cute (and safe) way to take this story since she has been becoming more endearing.

DenjaX said:
Anime Haganai spoiler:


Don't know if you know I am a huge Haganai fan and they have announced that the next volume will be out in August (finally)

But on that - some vague statements about the series and vol 10, but no real spoilers:


So, in a way I agree, I do think it is similar to Haganai, which is why I want my completely unexpected ending.
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I think EVERYone has their own thoughts on this episode but for me the explanation given on the reddit forum (Link below) matchedthe most with the summary of this Final Episode.

http://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/3b9vw5/spoilers_yahari_ore_no_seishun_love_comedy_wa/csk8897


Yeah, i have seen this link before, the O. post and some of the replies are a very good read.
Although they missed something, when Yukinon left Hikki and Yui alone, then after that Hikki follows Yukinon.. This is not because of his "feelings" for Yukinon, but this is because Yui sends Hikki after Yukinon. (Well according to an LN reader anyway... Not yet confirmed. We need to see the translation on that part.)
And again, showing interest in someone does not necessarily mean a romantic one.
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There's one idea I really can't wrap my head around, and that's the assumption (?) that Hachiman already knows about how Yui feels about him, or even how he knows about Yukinon's feelings. Idk if this was LN mentioned or off-scene somewhere that I may have missed, but honestly, I thought Hachiman didn't think these girls liked him in a romantic way. Sure, he likes Yukinon, but I never saw an indicator that told him that the girls felt the same way about him, especially when they call him gross or trash.

I mean, throughout the whole scene, I thought Hachiman ended up stopping Yui because he saw that Yukinon was being forced into a decision that was not her own with Hachiman not having any knowledge of the situation. I thought Hachiman was just standing up for Yukinon without any info, which I could see him doing. This was my outlook if I go by the assumption that Hachiman had NO idea that the girls liked him.


hachiman knew the feelings of the two. hachiman didnt think that yui and yukino has a romantic feeling for him, he acted innocent and nice to both yui and yukino knowing that it is the right thing to do. he is not used to it. but haruno pointed it out to him it was not trust but something cruel/sinister.
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Hachiman's issue is insecurity.

Some of the scenes from the anime and light novel seem to suggest that he is actually very good at reading timings about these feelings, but since he never has friends (especially female ones) and does not take rejections well from past experiences, he is afraid of misreading something. Examples of this include interrupting Yui when she has an incoming call after the fireworks and also cutting off Yukino before she responds at the very last scene.

So Hachiman perhaps knows that those two now have feelings between friendship for him; however, since he has previously regarded them differently (Yui = nice, Yukino = strong), his insecurity for avoiding potential changes in their relationships prevails in a lot of decision making.

Now that he is reevaluating his character assessments for the two girls, perhaps things will take a different approach.
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8man has never thought of Yui like this in the whole series.


I had been in the Yukino camp up until this episode, but there was a flashback around the 3:35 mark of last episode that started me thinking that Watari is fooling us by downplaying Yui too much previously, the flashback this episode (remembering the fireworks) and the final scene is what pushed me into the Yui camp.

So the above scenes from the novels I know very well, and yes they suggest that Yukino and Hachiman have been slowly falling in love with the other, but where is the "Screw Up" in that? If Yukino is the end goal, then this will have been a pretty normal rom com: two people meet, they initially don't like each other, but slowly over time their feelings change. Don't you think Watari is better than that? His title promised us more.

So I wouldn't say my theory above is based on imagination as much as it is based on suspicion.
As i said he remembered that scene , it's obvious that he will remember that in volume 9 Yui says "it feels nostalgic" to make him remember. Also the final scene makes him realise that Yui really has feelings for him as he realises that those cookies are not just for gratitide. Also actually Yui will be a normal rom-com end , her whole character revolves around the romance subplot. He saves her dog , she falls for him due to his heroic act , tries to win him and succeds. Watari can give a Yukino end without making it stereotypical, i have faith in his writing. Even Iroha has chance of winning. In volume 11 in case of positive character development Watari has taken Yui to the top of the Mountain while he has thrown Yukino at the bottom of an abyss. Making a Yukino end while giving her a positive push up with believable development in one volume(considering vol 12 is the last one) is actually the biggest challenge Watari can face.

Also Yui ending will feel plain the conflict between Yui and 8man resolved very quickly and easily and Yukino played a big part in resolving that by"You can start a new". On the other hand the conflict between 8man and Yukino plays a big part in developing both of them. They came to know their flaws and realised that they were wrong about each other and stopped predicting each other.

Rejection is important for Yui's character development. Out of the trio Yui had the most stable and happy life. 8man and Yukino have experienced rejection from people and society while Yui has experienced none.

Also i honestly can't guess what Yukino's request will be. She has recovered a bit after 8man's speech so it's even more hard to exactly predict her request. Also with the story progress i bet the last volume will be focused mainly on Yukino (even more than 8man i think) Watari can do anything he want. From an objective point of view i will say 8man feels something for both of them but it's still not confirmed for whom he has romantic feelings. I will say anybody from thr main 3 girls has chance to win the 8bowl.
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is yukinon's request in the light novel since its still ongoing? or is this where the light novel is currently at?
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they stopped at the exact same point as the novels so its gonna take around half a year till the story continues sadly
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It's so damn confusing! Why did they have to make all the conversations between the 3 main characters so non-informative yet complicated???

I'm not sure if I should give this second season a 4 or even lower -.-
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It's so damn confusing! Why did they have to make all the conversations between the 3 main characters so non-informative yet complicated???

I'm not sure if I should give this second season a 4 or even lower -.-

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well its same as other romance/drama/comedy animes

2 girls love same guy,the guy knows the feelings but doesnt take action.And all 3 of them are scared it will ruin their friendship.

Its just in this anime the chars have unrealistic conversations that dont really make sense^^.Its like the genuine stuff they always talk about is an excuse for not speaking their minds.

Hope season 3 wont be about ''searching for the genuine'' and we will actually see some realistic development.
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Rejection is important for Yui's character development. Out of the trio Yui had the most stable and happy life. 8man and Yukino have experienced rejection from people and society while Yui has experienced none.


I don't agree.

She's already been through enough heartbreak. For example, at the end of episode 5 (season 1) when Hachiman thinks she's being nice out of guilt because he saved her dog, he basically cuts ties with her and causes her to run off crying. Also, in episode 2, when Hachiman fake confesses to Ebina, Yui initially thinks he's serious about it and that obviously hurt her a lot.

And she's been waiting for Hachiman when he's ready for the promise date, and when he's finally ready to ask, Yui has to now consider Yukino's feelings. Normally she would have accepted in a heartbeat.
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Rejection is important for Yui's character development. Out of the trio Yui had the most stable and happy life. 8man and Yukino have experienced rejection from people and society while Yui has experienced none.


I don't agree.

She's already been through enough heartbreak. For example, at the end of episode 5 (season 1) when Hachiman thinks she's being nice out of guilt because he saved her dog, he basically cuts ties with her and causes her to run off crying. Also, in episode 2, when Hachiman fake confesses to Ebina, Yui initially thinks he's serious about it and that obviously hurt her a lot.

And she's been waiting for Hachiman when he's ready for the promise date, and when he's finally ready to ask, Yui has to now consider Yukino's feelings. Normally she would have accepted in a heartbeat.
At the cultural festival he just avoided her confession and did not actally reject her. The ebnina confession was nothing but an act even Yui understands that she was just shocked. It was not a rejection either. Rejection is when someone listens to your confession and then says sorry as they cant return their feelings. Nothing like this has happened to Yui while both 8man and Yukino(with a lot of hints from the novel ) have gone through it.
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The ebnina confession was nothing but an act even Yui understands that she was just shocked. It was not a rejection either. Rejection is when someone listens to your confession and then says sorry as they cant return their feelings. Nothing like this has happened to Yui while both 8man and Yukino(with a lot of hints from the novel ) have gone through it.


You really don't think that Hachiman understands Yui's feeling? Because if he does, then every time he has avoided dealing with it has been a rejection to her.

And despite what you think, he obviously does get it. The only real question is why he pretends not to (is it because he loves Yukino, or is it because he is similar to Ebina). That is one of the two questions remaining with this series.
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he is similar to Ebina


This one.
He wants to maintain his status quo with Service Club, but it doesn't mean they have to hide their feelings.
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The ebnina confession was nothing but an act even Yui understands that she was just shocked. It was not a rejection either. Rejection is when someone listens to your confession and then says sorry as they cant return their feelings. Nothing like this has happened to Yui while both 8man and Yukino(with a lot of hints from the novel ) have gone through it.


You really don't think that Hachiman understands Yui's feeling? Because if he does, then every time he has avoided dealing with it has been a rejection to her.

And despite what you think, he obviously does get it. The only real question is why he pretends not to (is it because he loves Yukino, or is it because he is similar to Ebina). That is one of the two questions remaining with this series.


When did i say 8man is unaware of Yui's feelings? He was aware of them since volume 5 and knows that she wants him romantically by the end of volume 11. Are you saying that him not always thinking about that means rejecting her romantically? We all know 8man is bad at handling girls , also i really want to were this "going out together" promise came into the picture at the end of volume 4. Avoiding and rejecting may sound similar but still their meaning is vastly different. Also we still don't know what 8man thinks of Yukino, he only gets Yui's feelings by the end of volume 11.
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He wants to maintain his status quo with Service Club, but it doesn't mean they have to hide their feelings.


In a way, yes they do. As long as Tobe's feelings towards Ebina were implied, then everyone could ignore it and continue to be friends. Once everything is explicitly stated then people can't pretend that they didn't know. The reality of what everyone knew wasn't what changed, the entire group knew the situation, what they were afraid of is once the implied became real, then they would have to respond.

Truth, or "genuineness", is not always the best thing for human relations. Life would be so much easier if it was, but unfortunately it isn't. The great, and tragic, thing about Hachiman is not that he brings truth, but rather that he allows the white lies to continue to exist. This last episode showed this.
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Are you saying that him not always thinking about that means rejecting her romantically?


Yes that is what I am saying. If he knows and is not interested he should be a man and reject her rather than string her along. So either he doesn't know, or he doesn't want to reject her. To not reject her because of "friendship" is anti-Hachiman, so this means that there is another reason why he either doesn't reject her, or more to the point, why he can't accept her feelings yet.
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Are you saying that him not always thinking about that means rejecting her romantically?


Yes that is what I am saying. If he knows and is not interested he should be a man and reject her rather than string her along. So either he doesn't know, or he doesn't want to reject her. To not reject her because of "friendship" is anti-Hachiman, so this means that there is another reason why he either doesn't reject her, or more to the point, why he can't accept her feelings yet.
Hachiman was a loner and was rejected before in middle school for carelessly thinking that the other girl likes him just because she was talking to him. At that time he had enough reasons to think that was the case for Yui as well.

We still don't know the reason why 8man asked Yui if she was free? He might have been thinking of clearing things up once and for all, that's why i am waiting for volume 11 translation.

Also if you know please tell me where this "you have to make us hanging out together come true" promice comes into picture by the end of volume 4? He had never promised something like that to Yui by that point.
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What I said before, wasn't just romantic feelings. You can consider 'dependancy on friends' as friendship feelings. You can't live without other helps, eventually 8man realizes that and change his method from 'loner social suicide' to 'stand together to fix problems'. For Yukino's case, she wants to express her feelings, asking for help whenever she can't do something alone and etc. For Yui's case, I'm not sure, but probably something like Hayama, she wants to do what she wants and doesn't want to do what people expected from her.

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thing about Hachiman is not that he brings truth, but rather that he allows the white lies to continue to exist.


Human's feelings are complicated, you can't predict what would happen just like Hiratsuka said. That's why 8man doesn't want to take risks to tell the truths, because theres still a chance that he confuse love with 'care' feelings.
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At the cultural festival he just avoided her confession and did not actally reject her. The ebnina confession was nothing but an act even Yui understands that she was just shocked. It was not a rejection either. Rejection is when someone listens to your confession and then says sorry as they cant return their feelings. Nothing like this has happened to Yui while both 8man and Yukino(with a lot of hints from the novel ) have gone through it.


Yeah, it's not exactly like the rejection you mentioned, but it is a rejection in a way. Actually, it could be worse because if it's a love rejection, you don't necessarily have to be on bad terms with that person, like Iroha and Hayama. Yui obviously wanted to get close to Hachiman and he basically rejected that offer by cutting ties with her. Keep in mind, Yui had no idea if she would ever talk to Hachiman again after that. It was a whole week before they even started talking again. In the end, it hurt her a lot.
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At the cultural festival he just avoided her confession and did not actally reject her. The ebnina confession was nothing but an act even Yui understands that she was just shocked. It was not a rejection either. Rejection is when someone listens to your confession and then says sorry as they cant return their feelings. Nothing like this has happened to Yui while both 8man and Yukino(with a lot of hints from the novel ) have gone through it.


Yeah, it's not exactly like the rejection you mentioned, but it is a rejection in a way. Actually, it could be worse because if it's a love rejection, you don't necessarily have to be on bad terms with that person, like Iroha and Hayama. Yui obviously wanted to get close to Hachiman and he basically rejected that offer by cutting ties with her. Keep in mind, Yui had no idea if she would ever talk to Hachiman again after that. It was a whole week before they even started talking again. In the end, it hurt her a lot.
Bro i think you are confused about the sequence of events their conflict was resolved before their date. Avoiding someone and specifically rejecting them are two different things.

If that was a rejection then she would have stopped making advances on him by understanding that 8man does not have such feelings for her. Considering she is a character who takes the surrounding in consideration the most while doing something. But that's not what happened.
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Yeah, it's not exactly like the rejection you mentioned, but it is a rejection in a way. Actually, it could be worse because if it's a love rejection, you don't necessarily have to be on bad terms with that person, like Iroha and Hayama. Yui obviously wanted to get close to Hachiman and he basically rejected that offer by cutting ties with her. Keep in mind, Yui had no idea if she would ever talk to Hachiman again after that. It was a whole week before they even started talking again. In the end, it hurt her a lot.
Bro i think you are confused about the sequence of events their conflict was resolved before their date. Avoiding someone and specifically rejecting them are two different things.

If that was a rejection then she would have stopped making advances on him by understanding that 8man does not have such feelings for her. Considering she is a character who takes the surrounding in consideration the most while doing something. But that's not what happened.


There was no confession at the cultural festival, unless you're talking about the honey toast part, which I don't consider a confession in the slightest. She was shocked at the Ebina confession, but considering how emotional she got, I think it upset her quite a bit more than you're letting on.

Anyway, when I was mentioning Hachiman rejecting Yui, I was referring to episode 5 of season 1 when he found out that she was the owner of the dog he saved. Also, regarding that, the point I was trying to get across is that the rejection hurt Yui and yes I know it's obviously not exactly the same as a love rejection. I don't actually believe a character should lose just because they haven't faced a love rejection in their life. After all, Yui has already gone through plenty of "suffering".
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Bro i think you are confused about the sequence of events their conflict was resolved before their date. Avoiding someone and specifically rejecting them are two different things.

If that was a rejection then she would have stopped making advances on him by understanding that 8man does not have such feelings for her. Considering she is a character who takes the surrounding in consideration the most while doing something. But that's not what happened.


There was no confession at the cultural festival, unless you're talking about the honey toast part, which I don't consider a confession in the slightest. She was shocked at the Ebina confession, but considering how emotional she got, I think it upset her quite a bit more than you're letting on.

Anyway, when I was mentioning Hachiman rejecting Yui, I was referring to episode 5 of season 1 when he found out that she was the owner of the dog he saved. Also, regarding that, the point I was trying to get across is that the rejection hurt Yui and yes I know it's obviously not exactly the same as a love rejection. I don't actually believe a character should lose just because they haven't faced a love rejection in their life. After all, Yui has already gone through plenty of "suffering".
I am referring to the scene after the fireworks when 8man and Yui are going home. The Ebina confession upset Yukino a lot as well does that mean she was rejected by 8man in that situation?

In episode 5 he was not rejecting her he stated that she should stop coming to him out of pity. Also the whole thing was nothing but a misunderstanding as Yukino said.

8man was rejected, looked down upon by people and was never acknowledged by others and was forced to be a loner. That is what rejection means both by people and society whether it's romantic or not. I would say Hachiman is sane enough right now only because of Komachi, she was by his side the whole time. Yukino was bullied by other girls for being a bright student, good looking beauty. She was used as a substitute by her own family , she had no one to support her or encourage and it resulted in her creating a shell around herself and also her dependency issues, making her the most broken character at the moment. That is what rejection means by people and society whether romantic or not. What has Yui faced as compared to those two? A rejection in a high school love is nothing compared to what 8man and Yukino have faced. She has always avoided being rejected and went with the flow which she herself even admits. Whether romantic or not she hasn't faced any. That's why a rejection is important for her character development.
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Anyway, when I was mentioning Hachiman rejecting Yui, I was referring to episode 5 of season 1 when he found out that she was the owner of the dog he saved.


Dang, do you want to fite me, m8? Yui is not bitch.
He just didn't want to be pitied. IRL, if you saved by someone, you won't ditch him/her , right? Just say 'Thank you and bye!" and we never meet again. You would try to know about him/her, learn about he/she likes, at least you want to be friend with him/her. That's why he doesn't want Yui to do something like that for returning favor as a reason.

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she had no one to support her or encourage and it resulted in her creating a shell around herself and also her dependency issues.


She has Yui now, and 8man. She tried to be a flawless girl, to prove to her parents that "I can do well without your concern!".

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What has Yui faced as compared to those two? A rejection in a high school love is nothing compared to what 8man and Yukino have faced.


She's a normie. Of course she has to maintain her status quo with other normies and introvert people in Service Club. You can't say that she's nothing compared with 8man's genuine issue and Yukino's dependancy issue. She wants to do whatever she likes, but if she did that, theres no guarantee her normie friends won't say and do anything, including her clubmates. Yui is suffer more than 8man and Yukino. She wants to express her feelings, yet she doesn't want her friends suffer. 8man realizes about Yui persona that's why he said that she's a 'nice girl'.

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he has always avoided being rejected and went with the flow.

She avoided because she doesn't want to lose her 'precious' clubmates. It's not confirmed if 8man likes Yui or Yukino. But, assuming if 8man accept Yui feelings, I'm sure they can't maintain their status quo and in worst case, Service club will disbanded.

She went with flow? Of couse she's normie, thats why she does what people expected. If she try to againts it's flow, we will see drama between duo girl in Service Club. It may be happen in next volume.
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There was no confession at the cultural festival, unless you're talking about the honey toast part, which I don't consider a confession in the slightest. She was shocked at the Ebina confession, but considering how emotional she got, I think it upset her quite a bit more than you're letting on.

Anyway, when I was mentioning Hachiman rejecting Yui, I was referring to episode 5 of season 1 when he found out that she was the owner of the dog he saved. Also, regarding that, the point I was trying to get across is that the rejection hurt Yui and yes I know it's obviously not exactly the same as a love rejection. I don't actually believe a character should lose just because they haven't faced a love rejection in their life. After all, Yui has already gone through plenty of "suffering".
I am referring to the scene after the fireworks when 8man and Yui are going home. The Ebina confession upset Yukino a lot as well does that mean she was rejected by 8man in that situation?

In episode 5 he was not rejecting her he stated that she should stop coming to him out of pity. Also the whole thing was nothing but a misunderstanding as Yukino said.

8man was rejected, looked down upon by people and was never acknowledged by others and was forced to be a loner. That is what rejection means both by people and society whether it's romantic or not. I would say Hachiman is sane enough right now only because of Komachi, she was by his side the whole time. Yukino was bullied by other girls for being a bright student, good looking beauty. She was used as a substitute by her own family , she had no one to support her or encourage and it resulted in her creating a shell around herself and also her dependency issues, making her the most broken character at the moment. That is what rejection means by people and society whether romantic or not. What has Yui faced as compared to those two? A rejection in a high school love is nothing compared to what 8man and Yukino have faced. She has always avoided being rejected and went with the flow which she herself even admits. Whether romantic or not she hasn't faced any. That's why a rejection is important for her character development.


I wasn't implying at all that there was any type of rejection towards Yui or Yukino during the Ebina confession, there wasn't. And in episode 5, when I say rejection, I just meant her kindness towards him, even if it is out of pity which it wasn't.
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