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Apr 7, 2015 12:58 PM

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I would say Sakura-Shirou best pairing.
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Shuda- said:
and maybe a couple to the Sakura/Rider fans.

>a couple

I hope Miura won't let this happen.
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CrimsonBlack said:
Shuda- said:
and maybe a couple to the Sakura/Rider fans.

>a couple

I think Miura won't let this happen.

I respect your tastes. I do however feel that Ilya and Rin are more impacting in Heaven's Feel than those two in the big picture. Then again, this is all subjective, and it would cool if it turned out unpredictable. I'm okay with Sakura btw, and I feel she is a necessary character, and her life itself is really "heavy".

Only thing objective is Kirei.
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HF is indeed Kotomine,Ilya and Rin route..fuck Sakura..
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Shuda- said:
CrimsonBlack said:

>a couple

I think Miura won't let this happen.

I respect your tastes. I do however feel that Ilya and Rin are more impacting in Heaven's Feel than those two in the big picture. Then again, this is all subjective, and it would cool if it turned out unpredictable.

Only thing objective is Kirei.

You see, I don't think Rin shines in HF brighter than in UBW. Those who liked Rin after watching the UBW anime will most likely pick Rin in HF as well. But those who haven't made up their mind yet, will probably go for other girls. I agree on Illya, though I don't think Sakura and Rider are fated to go that low. HF is Sakura's route, after all. And out of all three routes, Rider shines in HF the best.
Apr 7, 2015 1:21 PM

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Shuda- said:
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HF IT WILL BE SO

DREAM WAS A PREMONITION OF FUTURE COMING EVENTS

hype?

Prediction (If poll is made after the ending): Kirei will have 50% of the votes, and the rest will go to Ilya and Rin, and maybe a couple to the Sakura/Rider fans.

Kirei should be in both best girl and best man poll though.


Kirei will have my vote in HF.

runner up is definitely Rider.
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CrimsonBlack said:
Shuda- said:

I respect your tastes. I do however feel that Ilya and Rin are more impacting in Heaven's Feel than those two in the big picture. Then again, this is all subjective, and it would cool if it turned out unpredictable.

Only thing objective is Kirei.

You see, I don't think Rin shines in HF brighter than in UBW. Those who liked Rin after watching the UBW anime will most likely pick Rin in HF as well. But those who haven't made up their mind yet, will probably go for other girls. I agree on Illya, though I don't think Sakura and Rider are fated to go that low. HF is Sakura's route, after all. And out of all three routes, Rider shines in HF the best.

Not disagreeing with anything, except Rin. Rin takes on a completely different role in Heaven's Feel, and will have more appeal than waifu-bait. I like my waifu-bait Rin though, but HF Rin isn't solely an extension of UBW Rin either, imo.

Rin's conflict between balancing Person/Magus get two takes.

Anyway, Kirei has it won already.
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CrimsonBlack said:

You see, I don't think Rin shines in HF brighter than in UBW. Those who liked Rin after watching the UBW anime will most likely pick Rin in HF as well. But those who haven't made up their mind yet, will probably go for other girls. I agree on Illya, though I don't think Sakura and Rider are fated to go that low. HF is Sakura's route, after all. And out of all three routes, Rider shines in HF the best.

I don't know about that tho.

Despite the fact that UBW is supposed to be the Rin route, I always felt that she was somewhat overshadowed by Archer and Shirou (even though she was an great character in her own right) : it really was their route more than anyone else's.

In HF tho, as she leaves the role of main love interest and goes back to doing her own thing, we really get to see a different (and I daresay the most compelling) side of her, that we could only catch a glimpse of in the previous routes: the head of the Tohsaka household who's got to deal with her family issues once and for all.
That's kindof the reason why her final confrontation with Sakura really comes across as the pinnacle of her character arc, and I think many viewers will see it that way.
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
Apr 7, 2015 1:42 PM

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In HF tho, as she leaves the role of main love interest and goes back to doing her own thing, we really get to see a different (and I daresay the most compelling) side of her, that we could only catch a glimpse of in the previous routes: the head of the Tohsaka household who's got to deal with her family issues once and for all.


That's how i've always seen it as well,which is why i enjoyed her the most in HF.
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DamnThatsTheSpot said:
GangstaPriest said:

In HF tho, as she leaves the role of main love interest and goes back to doing her own thing, we really get to see a different (and I daresay the most compelling) side of her, that we could only catch a glimpse of in the previous routes: the head of the Tohsaka household who's got to deal with her family issues once and for all.


That's how i've always seen it as well,which is why i enjoyed her the most in HF.


+1 to everything said here.

HF Rin is my favorite. Most characters are at their best in this arc tbh, my favorites being Kirei Rider Grandpa Matou and Rin.
Apr 7, 2015 1:47 PM

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Zouken's Scooby Doo villain tier,m8

Never really saw what the hype about Rider was either.
Apr 7, 2015 1:51 PM

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DamnThatsTheSpot said:
Zouken's Scooby Doo villain tier,m8

Never really saw what the hype about Rider was either.



I just was fond of the fact that she actually had lines here, unlike the other arcs.

and personally, I felt Shirou softened her and she actually developed from their conversations.
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I didn't see any development with her at all.
We didn't even know anything about her either aside from "I must protect muh Sakura".She didn't really do a good job in that department either,all things considered.
Apr 7, 2015 1:59 PM

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Her character was redeemed with /HA, even though I would've liked to see the origin of her protective attitude towards Sakura in F/SN as well.
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Kellhus said:
GuusWayne said:
there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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DamnThatsTheSpot said:
I didn't see any development with her at all.
We didn't even know anything about her either aside from "I must protect muh Sakura".She didn't really do a good job in that department either,all things considered.

Because Nasu is a hack. If Ufo moves some of her flashback from HA into HF (just how Nasu should've done 10 years ago), then this won't be much of a flaw.
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Her flashback in HA just made some of her actions in F/SN all the more nonsensical for me,tbh

but ayy,time constraints a bitch
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DamnThatsTheSpot said:
Her flashback in HA just made some of her actions in F/SN all the more nonsensical for me,tbh

but ayy,time constraints a bitch

What makes you think so?
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CrimsonBlack said:
DamnThatsTheSpot said:
Her flashback in HA just made some of her actions in F/SN all the more nonsensical for me,tbh

but ayy,time constraints a bitch

What makes you think so?


"I want to prevent Sakura from becoming a monster,just like i did

Now..

I will KILL the person she loves and her sister in front of her and have her take in their magical energy,because that'll surely help,right!...R-right?...left?"
Apr 7, 2015 2:09 PM

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1) Archer
2) Kirei
3) Rin
4) Kiritsugu

5) Seiba? Shirou? Ilya?

All Fate things considered. For me.
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TrueKireiPriest said:
Kirei is the only choice for Best Girl.

You're all fooling yourselves by saying differently.
Apr 7, 2015 2:35 PM

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DamnThatsTheSpot said:
CrimsonBlack said:

What makes you think so?


"I want to prevent Sakura from becoming a monster,just like i did

Now..

I will KILL the person she loves and her sister in front of her and have her take in their magical energy,because that'll surely help,right!...R-right?...left?"

Rider didn't intend to kill Shirou. She was holding back pretty much then. And it's only natural for her that Sakura's life took priority above Rin's. She knows what Sakura wants better than anyone else, after all.
Apr 7, 2015 2:36 PM

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Well, what do we have here?

Saber?? LLLLLLLEEEEAAADING????? How unexpected!



Such a shame, Rinfags. Better luck next time! :DD
Apr 7, 2015 2:40 PM

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CrimsonBlack said:

Rider didn't intend to kill Shirou. She was holding back pretty much then. And it's only natural for her that Sakura's life took priority above Rin's. She knows what Sakura wants better than anyone else, after all.

Pretty sure she was.Sakura was basically begging her to stop what she was doing too.

And the main point was that all Rider does is prioritize her life.She doesn't actually prevent her from becoming a monster.Hence Sakura turning into a monster 3/4ths into the route
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DamnThatsTheSpot said:
She doesn't actually prevent her from becoming a monster.

The only thing Rider was able to do about it was to kill Shinji. Sure she couldn't do such a thing. There is nothing else she could do about it. Even Zouken himself said he couldn't help it.
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She could have never agreed to become Shinji's Servant,for one.

Or literally tried to do anything other than stand near her all the time until the last day of the route.

Either way,having Sakura suck the life out of her closest people isn't really helping.At all.
Apr 7, 2015 3:09 PM

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I can prove you wrong again, but I find it kinda meaningless now. Haters gonna hate.
Apr 7, 2015 3:12 PM

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Damn, the robot it's leading now
Apr 7, 2015 3:13 PM

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I don't even hate her,but sure.
Apr 7, 2015 3:19 PM

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Kirei, no contest.
Apr 7, 2015 4:30 PM

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The unmarked HF spoilers are real.

I agree with Crimson about Nasu being a hack though, after I read FHA I realised just how incomplete FSN is. FHA made most of the servants into actual characters. I'm glad they're putting a bit of that into these new adaptations.
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Say what you want, but Nasu improved A LOT in this past years, as a writer.
Apr 7, 2015 4:36 PM

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I would agree with you if I could actually read Mahoyo

ffs commie
Apr 7, 2015 4:55 PM

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Mahoyo looks solid in presentation although in terms of narrative I cant say either although I look forward to the opportunity to give it a read.

How many sequels were planned for it anyways?
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Mahoyo looks solid in presentation although in terms of narrative I cant say either although I look forward to the opportunity to give it a read.

How many sequels were planned for it anyways?


Don't quote me, but I think... 2?
Apr 7, 2015 5:03 PM

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I'm surprised that Illya actually ahead than Sakura unlike Cour 1 poll. Illya the best girl
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WrongPriest said:
Zombiepie said:
Mahoyo looks solid in presentation although in terms of narrative I cant say either although I look forward to the opportunity to give it a read.

How many sequels were planned for it anyways?


Don't quote me, but I think... 2?


Yeah supposed to be 2 more from what I've read. I need to learn how to read this stuff....
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HF is indeed Kotomine,Ilya and Rin route..fuck Sakura..
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nocorras said:
WrongPriest said:


Don't quote me, but I think... 2?


Yeah supposed to be 2 more from what I've read. I need to learn how to read this stuff....

I use mecab and jparser. All you need to understand the text is some common sense and basic knowledge of japanese grammar, no vocab required
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ijuka said:
nocorras said:


Yeah supposed to be 2 more from what I've read. I need to learn how to read this stuff....

I use mecab and jparser. All you need to understand the text is some common sense and basic knowledge of japanese grammar, no vocab required


I'll keep that in mind I heard of something called Atlas or something like that too.
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nocorras said:
ijuka said:

I use mecab and jparser. All you need to understand the text is some common sense and basic knowledge of japanese grammar, no vocab required


I'll keep that in mind I heard of something called Atlas or something like that too.

Right, I use that as well. It's like google translation but better. Atlas is good for some very short sentences that have obvious meanings that it won't screw up especially if it fits what's going on. (Example: "It started raining").

When it's more complicated, I use both jparser and mecab to first give the kanjis as kanas and then check every word / sentence for meanings and decipher what would make sense in that context(Some kanjis can have like 40 different possible meanings). It takes a while but the end result I get feels better than most actual translations. In any case, just the ability to turn all kanjis into kana or romanji makes using them worth it.

In short, I use Atlas to give a general overview and then use jparser and mecab to troubleshoot what doesn't seem to make sense.
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ijuka said:
nocorras said:


I'll keep that in mind I heard of something called Atlas or something like that too.

Right, I use that as well. It's like google translation but better. Atlas is good for some very short sentences that have obvious meanings that it won't screw up especially if it fits what's going on. (Example: "It started raining").

When it's more complicated, I use both jparser and mecab to first give the kanjis as kanas and then check every word / sentence for meanings and decipher what would make sense in that context(Some kanjis can have like 40 different possible meanings). It takes a while but the end result I get feels better than most actual translations. In any case, just the ability to turn all kanjis into kana or romanji makes using them worth it.

In short, I use Atlas to give a general overview and then use jparser and mecab to troubleshoot what doesn't seem to make sense.


Hmmmm, thanks for typing this out. Going to save it for when I get a chance to start trying to read it.
Apr 7, 2015 7:25 PM

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4 votes for best girl only

MAL shit taste confirmed
Apr 7, 2015 8:15 PM
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Praland said:
Damn, the robot it's leading now


clearly you haven't watched Fate/Zero or played the VN
in UBW she doesn't have that much character true but its not her route
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Journey_95 said:
Praland said:
Damn, the robot it's leading now


clearly you haven't watched Fate/Zero or played the VN
in UBW she doesn't have that much character true but its not her route


Clearly
Apr 7, 2015 8:34 PM

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Flat as a board + robot = leading.
Apr 7, 2015 8:38 PM

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Best Treasure maintains her status as Best Treasure. I expected nothing less.
Apr 7, 2015 9:05 PM

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i see the seibafags went to work with their fake accounts.........Rin was ahead just the other day....cmon now
Apr 7, 2015 9:25 PM

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We must have Kirei pass Sakura!

I'm fine with being being fourth to Ilya, but I must pass Sakura at all costs!!
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TrueKireiPriest said:
We must have Kirei pass Sakura!

I'm fine with being being fourth to Ilya, but I must pass Sakura at all costs!!

Pretty obsessed with Sakura there. It's like she destroyed your heart or something.
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antonn said:
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We must have Kirei pass Sakura!

I'm fine with being being fourth to Ilya, but I must pass Sakura at all costs!!

Pretty obsessed with Sakura there. It's like she destroyed your heart or something.


I think he's big enough man to deal with a broken heart. I just hope it doesn't end up hurting him too much later in life.
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