| >ctrl f "Sym-Bionic Titan" >0 results Shit taste everyone. Now posting COTYAY. We can all go home now. |
| how is this fart jokes and toilet humor? |
xEmptiness said: "if we follow what SW is suggesting, nihilism is the conclusion" |
| I would argue it already has. I've been enjoying American animation far more than anime these days. Even if I did agree that american animation is all comedy. Archer is funnier than any anime that's come out in recent years. Not even Gintama can stand up to Archer |
| Batman: The Animated Series is better than most of the anime I've watched IMHO |
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DrGeroCreation said: It seemed like it could be interesting so I checked it out. 2-3/10, dropped after ep2. Way too kid targeted for my taste. Just proves IMDB raters have bad taste.Over the Garden Wall is rated higher than every modern anime on IMDB. Over the Garden Wall is rated higher than Steins Gate, Madoka Magica, Fate Stay Night Unlimited Blade works ( the 2014 series by Ufotable not movie), Death Parade, Tokyo Ghoul, Attack on Titan, Bahamut, Knights of Sidonia etc. |
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BurntJelly said: No it proves you have shit taste. I guess you should stick to your super mature anime about friendship between little girls and moe little girls singing.DrGeroCreation said: It seemed like it could be interesting so I checked it out. 2-3/10, dropped after ep2. Way too kid targeted for my taste. Just proves IMDB raters have bad taste.Over the Garden Wall is rated higher than every modern anime on IMDB. Over the Garden Wall is rated higher than Steins Gate, Madoka Magica, Fate Stay Night Unlimited Blade works ( the 2014 series by Ufotable not movie), Death Parade, Tokyo Ghoul, Attack on Titan, Bahamut, Knights of Sidonia etc. |
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| seems like only one of you mentioned Bob's Burgers this show is SO fucking funny and has an amazing heart if you like animated US series, its a MUST SEE |
| As far as comedy goes, western animation is already way superior. I have yet to find a comedy anime that makes me consistently laugh. (except Inferno Cop) They need to get away from the 'cartoons are for children unless it's comedy' stigma though. I really like a lot of the stuff DC does. 1940s Superman is fucking beautiful. |
MalfegorApr 11, 2015 3:30 AM
FGAU1912 said: I'm not seeing any real bias against anime at all. Most anime are rated high even shit anime like SAO, Mirrai Nikki have good scores. If it was super biased then Avengers and the Transformers movies would be above all anime.DrGeroCreation said: No it proves you have shit taste. I guess you should stick to your super mature anime about friendship between little girls and moe little girls singing. what conmparinf around 3 hours story to a 70 80 plushpurs story IMDB is very western baised and us bias i do think n cuas i doubt there is any movies there in the top 20 witch are not hollwood or anglo shpare porduced movies il bet you 100 bucks on that iv look my self there 1/20 hell there are only 6/100 in the IMBD top 100 that ar indeed nor Hollywood or other wise angloshpare produced movies that not a good number to say that site is fully un basied since i watch movies from all over the world alot of the top 100 im IMDB shows the cultal eletims of the userbase |
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DrGeroCreation said: I'm not seeing any real bias against anime at all. Most anime are rated high even shit anime like SAO, Mirrai Nikki have good scores. If it was super biased then Avengers and the Transformers movies would be above all anime. Technically, he's right. I checked the demographics for the ratings, and anime series though highly rated get a lot more 1/10 than Western ones. That just makes it even more impressive in my opinion. Also, the IMDB staff ratings are generally the lowest which is clear bias (except when it comes to series like Cowboy Bebop). |
| "Let Justice Be Done!" My Theme Fight again, fight again for justice! |
| To me even among the absolute worst american cartoons titles out there are still infinitely better than any harems or recent light novel adaptations.Trying something and failing is still better than something devoid of any imagination or desire to at least stand out from the rest of the crowd. Also I really feel like with stuff like Ren And Stimpy or Courage The Cowardly they completely pushed to envelope when it came to what they could get away in a children oriented series,where with anime most of the time the risk factor is always extremely low. |
Malfegor said: They need to get away from the 'cartoons are for children unless it's comedy' stigma though. I really like a lot of the stuff DC does. 1940s Superman is fucking beautiful. That is the main problem with the american animation industry. Because of that stigma, people.....well those who consider themselves 'cool' or 'mature' tend to shun cartoons, making animation studios don't make any effort to churn out good shows that is accessible to everyone. DC still does, though but the direct-to-DVD movies while not bad rarely measure up to the DC Animated Universe of the 90s. I am glad someone remembered the 1940s Superman series. The animation for its time was groundbreaking and still holds up today. And in those days, writers actually CARED enough to not make Superman look like just a mere boy scout. |
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RedRoseFring said: Most popular Hollywood movies to me have way more 1/10's than popular anime. I think popularity leads to having more 1/10's.DrGeroCreation said: I'm not seeing any real bias against anime at all. Most anime are rated high even shit anime like SAO, Mirrai Nikki have good scores. If it was super biased then Avengers and the Transformers movies would be above all anime. Technically, he's right. I checked the demographics for the ratings, and anime series though highly rated get a lot more 1/10 than Western ones. That just makes it even more impressive in my opinion. Also, the IMDB staff ratings are generally the lowest which is clear bias (except when it comes to series like Cowboy Bebop). |
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Khaosman said: Knowing how obsessed with nostalgia you are you would probably put Batman Mystery of the Batwoman above Flashpoint Paradox and Batman Year 1 simply because it's DCAU. Heck you might even put Zeta Project above Young Justice simply because Zeta Project is DCAU. Talk about nostalgia overload.DC still does, though but the direct-to-DVD movies while not bad rarely measure up to the DC Animated Universe of the 90s. NB. FACT - The Light completely DESTROYS both Luthor's Injustice League and Grodd's Secret Society from JL and JLU as a super villain organization. The Light is the greatest super villain alliance in all DC animated works. |
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Khaosman said: No that is not the problem. I have looked at the evolution of anime and western cartoons and I have noticed that there was no OVA boom for western cartoons like there was for anime. The OVA boom of the 80's helped create a consumer base (otakus) to drive the production of anime. It also allowed for the creation of anime with mature content that wouldn't be suitable to air on prime time. The success of the OVA boom laid the foundation for the success of late night anime business strategy. A lot more anime is constantly churned out than American cartoons because of otakus spending as much money as possible on DVDs, Blurays. American cartoons on the other hand make money mainly through tv ratings. The reason for the large amount of cartoons in the 90's was actually because of a ratings war. Demand for cartoons were high because Cartoon Network was a great threat to the Saturday morning cartoon blocks of non cable networks. Cartoon Network eventually won and the Saturday morning cartoon blocks are now a thing of the past. The death of the Saturday morning cartoon blocks caused a sharp decrease in the demand for cartoons in the 2000s.That is the main problem with the american animation industry. Because of that stigma, people.....well those who consider themselves 'cool' or 'mature' tend to shun cartoons, making animation studios don't make any effort to churn out good shows that is accessible to everyone. |
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| It's just that America doesn't rely on animation for their economic growth unlike Japan so American cartoons can't measure up to Anime. |
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| The OVA boom is what gave anime the serious edge. If the OVA boom never happened there would be no late night anime today. There would only be long series like Sazae- san, Doraemon, Shin Chan etc. and battle shonen anime. Before the rise of late night anime, anime was driven by tv ratings just like American cartoons that's why old anime tend to be more long running. |
DrGeroCreationApr 11, 2015 5:45 AM
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FGAU1912 said: I really doubt late night anime is hurting the anime industry financially. I know, Sazae - san has a higher episode count than any American cartoon.DrGeroCreation said: The OVA boom is what gave anime the serious edge. If the OVA boom never happened there would be no late night anime. There would only be long series like Sazae- san, Doraemon, Shin Chan etc. and battle shonen anime. Before the rise of late night anime, anime was driven by tv ratings just like American cartoons that's why old anime tend to be more long running. late night naime has hurt anime while totlt profit are up profits per head [ anime] are lower there was twhat id call shhort shown in the 70's look ofr you self lomg runiing anme have big numbers of epiodes than us cartoon even if thye have benn runing less years conan ofr exmaple uniing 5 less less than thes pnions but has larger ep count |
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DrGeroCreation said: No that is not the problem. I have looked at the evolution of anime and western cartoons and I have noticed that there was no OVA boom for western cartoons like there was for anime. The OVA boom of the 80's helped create a consumer base (otakus) to drive the production of anime. It also allowed for the creation of anime with mature content that wouldn't be suitable to air on prime time. The success of the OVA boom laid the foundation for the success of late night anime business strategy. A lot more anime is constantly churned out than American cartoons because of otakus spending as much money as possible on DVDs, Blurays. American cartoons on the other hand make money mainly through tv ratings. The reason for the large amount of cartoons in the 90's was actually because of a ratings war. Demand for cartoons were high because Cartoon Network was a great threat to the Saturday morning cartoon blocks of non cable networks. Cartoon Network eventually won and the Saturday morning cartoon blocks are now a thing of the past. The death of the Saturday morning cartoon blocks caused a sharp decrease in the demand for cartoons in the 2000s. Ah, that's very interesting, DrGeroCreation. What you said does make sense. |
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| People here saying Adventure Time, Regular Show and Teen Titans know their shit. I personally like all of them alot, there is this one serie that recently started airing called: Over the Golden Wall. I laughed my ass off at the first 2 episodes. Edit: I see that someone else brought up over the garden wall already :p |
KamSungApr 11, 2015 6:34 AM
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amateur said: To me even among the absolute worst american cartoons titles out there are still infinitely better than any harems or recent light novel adaptations.Trying something and failing is still better than something devoid of any imagination or desire to at least stand out from the rest of the crowd. Also I really feel like with stuff like Ren And Stimpy or Courage The Cowardly they completely pushed to envelope when it came to what they could get away in a children oriented series,where with anime most of the time the risk factor is always extremely low. I can give credit for trying. But honestly, I would take something more or less generic but entertaining to trying something and sucking. Alas, its more of a tastes matter I guess. Everyone here grabs the best western cartoons and compares them to the worst of anime, it makes sense western cartoons win. |
DrGeroCreation said: RedRoseFring said: Most popular Hollywood movies to me have way more 1/10's than popular anime. I think popularity leads to having more 1/10's.Technically, he's right. I checked the demographics for the ratings, and anime series though highly rated get a lot more 1/10 than Western ones. That just makes it even more impressive in my opinion. Also, the IMDB staff ratings are generally the lowest which is clear bias (except when it comes to series like Cowboy Bebop). I meant in comparison of TV series. Movies generally have more members, but anime series while having much less accumulate more ones because of the "chinese fucking cartoons" mindset. |
| "Let Justice Be Done!" My Theme Fight again, fight again for justice! |
Soul-Master said: Alas, its more of a tastes matter I guess. Everyone here grabs the best western cartoons and compares them to the worst of anime, it makes sense western cartoons win. Well, if you DO compare the best of anime with the best of western cartoons, it can go either way. Let's say, comparing Batman: The Animated Series with Cowboy Bebop. Both are basically masterpieces, and while you'll find one show would top the other in a certain area, in the end, it will most likely come down to which one you think is slightly better. Personally, it's my favorite american cartoon vs my favorite anime and I find it impossible to make a decision on which is the better show. Like you said, it all comes down to taste. You can either like anime or american cartoons more but there's no denying both have their fair share of wonderful and dreadful shows. |
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| Ed Edd N Eddy is already the greatest anime of all time, we were surpassed long ago |
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Khaosman said: Malfegor said: They need to get away from the 'cartoons are for children unless it's comedy' stigma though. I really like a lot of the stuff DC does. 1940s Superman is fucking beautiful. That is the main problem with the american animation industry. Because of that stigma, people.....well those who consider themselves 'cool' or 'mature' tend to shun cartoons, making animation studios don't make any effort to churn out good shows that is accessible to everyone. DC still does, though but the direct-to-DVD movies while not bad rarely measure up to the DC Animated Universe of the 90s. I am glad someone remembered the 1940s Superman series. The animation for its time was groundbreaking and still holds up today. And in those days, writers actually CARED enough to not make Superman look like just a mere boy scout. Damn, that video give's me a good nostalgia rush. For whatever reason we had a couple of episodes on VHS when i was a kid. It's really impressive how well the animation holds up (or maybe it's sad for todays animation?) brb, gonna rewatch. |
| No. US cartoons are mostly for children. The only cartoon I liked was The Critic and it was cancelled. But then, there's stuff like South Park and Family Guy, I stopped watching them long time ago. |
RedRoseFring said: I'm not seeing that at all. Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, Big Bang Theory have way more ones than any anime. Batman TAS, Courage the Cowardly Dog, Rocko's Modern Life, Adventure Time have more ones than anime like Sword Art Online, Mirai Nikki, Akame Ga Kill, Fairy Tail. The amount of ones is dependent on the number of users.DrGeroCreation said: Most popular Hollywood movies to me have way more 1/10's than popular anime. I think popularity leads to having more 1/10's. I meant in comparison of TV series. Movies generally have more members, but anime series while having much less accumulate more ones because of the "chinese fucking cartoons" mindset. |
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| So FGAU1912, Fairy Tail is ranked 163 on MAL. You wanna know what's currently ranked 163 on IMDB? The Maltese Falcon the Bogart version. So please explain to me how IMDB's rating system is worse than MAL's again I'm sure you'll say something like "Fairy Tail is better the Maltese Falcon because it sold way better or the ratings were higher" or some bullshit like that |
SolidPayneApr 13, 2015 8:07 AM
| no. except Recess and Rocket Power. they were legit. |
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| Rocket Power? That's the best you can come up with? No wonder you think American cartoons don't hold a candle to anime |
OP is a fool. |
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| How dare you call me a fool without an excalibur reference. :P I think it all comes down to personal opinion. Adventure Time... It made me laugh... So.. yay. |
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| I can think of plenty of western cartoons that are better than When they cry and Clannad. |
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Waifu_Strangler said: I can think of plenty of western cartoons that are better than When they cry and Clannad. There's alot better out there than Nicholas Spark The anime series and yeah When They Cry isn't very good but to be fair just about every horror anime pretty much sucks |
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