Game of Thrones Season 5 General Discussion and Comparison to Books

Mikasa said:
Pls no spoilies :)

Oh Bran won't be there? I heard this season will be both book 4 and 5?
Same with S6?

Anyway, yeah the Martells are great.

I'm reading Clash of Kings, tbh far more interesting than S2 was and I loved that season. The Greyjoy world is more interesting there. Qarth is more fleshed out (despite having very few chapters)

Problem I had with S4 is that it practically killed off all the villains, Tywin and Joffrey are gone, who are gonna be the new players? New villains? I presume Boltons and Greyjoys will rise to power.... I like the idea of minor characters slowly climbing to the top in terms of importance. I still think the finale had its flaws (at least in the show)

toyall123 said:
Excited to see the first episode again on my computer screen. I feel pretty fortunate for being gifted free HBO Go for the year, and I intend to use it dammit. :D

During an appearance at the Oxford Union, "Thrones" creators David Benioff and Daniel Brett Weiss confirmed that the series will eventually overtake its source material, and feature plotlines that haven't been published yet -- potentially years before Martin finishes writing and releasing the last two tomes in the book series. Benioff fielded a question about the possibility of book spoilers by explaining that showrunners have been in close contact with Martin to discuss the strategy for such an occurrence, but added succinctly, "The show must go on."

daAmazinFatB0y said:

Like WTF? Are you trying to ruin the show? Now I'm not sure how far they are but I'm pretty sure that they aren't THAT far they need to bloody go AHEAD of the book.

Why the fuck man?

I hope to god they can pull it off nad its STILL amazing but whenever any company does that to any type of of media. It fucks up! So I'm sure this will mess up!

I mean okay. I get it. There catching up REALLY fast and can't just put the show on hiatus because Martin is really slow at righting. but sill man. I dont want this show to be ruined.

toyall123 said:

This has been known for quite some time now. Benioff and Weiss have been preparing for this scenario over the course of many years through increasingly larger deviations, and many critics (and surprisingly many book fans too) agree that most of their deviations were very solid. According to what I saw of the first episode and what the critics have been saying, Benioff and Weiss seem very confident in what they are doing. I strongly believe GoT will continue to be great.

Also, I want to add that based on what many book fans on the GoT forums have said, Books 4 and 5 do not seem to be too heavy in content and it can be streamlined into one season if need be. Heck, I heard that some characters on the show already reached the end of their published material. Much of the last two books deal with side plots that may not have a tremendous impact on the end goal, so Benioff and Weiss has to prune them out to avoid overbloating.

If it still worries you, GoT is confirmed to have the same ending as the ASOIAF book series (though that will inevitably hurt the book readers), just the route there will be different. Benioff and Weiss have repeatedly claimed that they plan for GoT to only go seven seasons, so even if they were to stumble on the new material, it won't damage the show much.

Democracy said:
I want moar Arya!!! I fucking love her!! And the actress is just soo fucking nice and adorable!! <3

toyall123 said:

This has been known for quite some time now. Benioff and Weiss have been preparing for this scenario over the course of many years through increasingly larger deviations, and many critics (and surprisingly many book fans too) agree that most of their deviations were very solid. According to what I saw of the first episode and what the critics have been saying, Benioff and Weiss seem very confident in what they are doing. I strongly believe GoT will continue to be great.

Also, I want to add that based on what many book fans on the GoT forums have said, Books 4 and 5 do not seem to be too heavy in content and it can be streamlined into one season if need be. Heck, I heard that some characters on the show already reached the end of their published material. Much of the last two books deal with side plots that may not have a tremendous impact on the end goal, so Benioff and Weiss has to prune them out to avoid overbloating.

If it still worries you, GoT is confirmed to have the same ending as the ASOIAF book series (though that will inevitably hurt the book readers), just the route there will be different. Benioff and Weiss have repeatedly claimed that they plan for GoT to only go seven seasons, so even if they were to stumble on the new material, it won't damage the show much.

Candor said:
In other words: The 4th and 5th books are too fucking boring and uneventful. That's why Benioff and Weiss are doing things this way, and hopefully it's gonna work much better.

Candor said:
In other words: The 4th and 5th books are too fucking boring and uneventful. That's why Benioff and Weiss are doing things this way, and hopefully it's gonna work much better.

Kipcha said:
There are so many storylines that I am looking forward to (Haven't read the books, not sure I want to until the TV series maybe gets ahead of it, I like being shocked by the show).

I'm looking forward to Tyrion and Varys most of all though, Tyrion's storyline has always been my favorite. However, I am looking forward to Jon Snow, Arya, the Martells, Daenerys, Jorah and Littlefinger and Sansa. The others I don't care too much about, although I've heard that Cersei's gets good.

Maybe we'll finally see where Gendry and The Blackfish are, I was dissapointed neither of them showed up last season!

YorozuyaGinSan said:
They're not using the Arianne/ Arys story? I wonder how they'll go about the whole Darkstar and Myrcella thing then.

Yeah Cersei gonna be good.

I wonder if they'll keep the Varys story going in the show, it wouldn't be as fun without him.

toyall123 said:


From what I read from the reviews, it seems the writers are incorporating elements from abandoned story lines into others, merging some characters (like Gendry/Edric), and speeding up the pace of certain story lines while removing some of the side plots (notably with Tyrion's storyline in AFFC and ADWD).

The book readers who watched the first four episodes seem content with the changes, but they are only a small portion of the viewing audience (an understatement) and they've only watched a portion of the season, so who knows if most book readers will feel the same way.

mclovinballz said:
John Snow gets stabbed by the night's watch

YorozuyaGinSan said:

They've already merged Gendry and Edric, so that doesn't come as a surprise. Tyrion's story I thought was paced rather well in DwD, I wonder what they will be doing to cut through it.
Book purists already have stuff like Xaro and Jojen to whine about, I can't see why people would be so critical of deviations now when they've always been present in the story.

DoctorCaim said:
lol u guys and your obsession with medieval porn

Rezar said:
First four episodes were leaked online, quick get to the chopper!

toyall123 said:

This has been known for quite some time now. Benioff and Weiss have been preparing for this scenario over the course of many years through increasingly larger deviations, and many critics (and surprisingly many book fans too) agree that most of their deviations were very solid. According to what I saw of the first episode and what the critics have been saying, Benioff and Weiss seem very confident in what they are doing. I strongly believe GoT will continue to be great.

Also, I want to add that based on what many book fans on the GoT forums have said, Books 4 and 5 do not seem to be too heavy in content and it can be streamlined into one season if need be. Heck, I heard that some characters on the show already reached the end of their published material. Much of the last two books deal with side plots that may not have a tremendous impact on the end goal, so Benioff and Weiss has to prune them out to avoid overbloating.

If it still worries you, GoT is confirmed to have the same ending as the ASOIAF book series (though that will inevitably hurt the book readers), just the route there will be different. Benioff and Weiss have repeatedly claimed that they plan for GoT to only go seven seasons, so even if they were to stumble on the new material, it won't damage the show much.

Candor said:
^ The Iron Islands chapters are so fucking boring though. The characters there are too boring, pointless, and just seem like fodder characters to just "build the world". They have no place in the series so far and all the conflicts they're trying to create are pointless and full of utter bullshit.

Yes, that's how frustrating those chapters were, 10s of hours of boredom and in the end they lead to literally nothing, so far. The 4th book is the worst book of the series with and it's not even close because of the Greyjoys.

And wow, there are actually 4 episodes leaked. Don't think I'm gonna watch them all after each other just to save something for the next weeks.

Lash_ said:
I've read the books. Basically, John Wick tracks down Theon into the Game of Thrones world and kills him again.

Don't mess with John Wick's dog

YorozuyaGinSan said:
John Wick can go screw himself he had no right to kill Alfie twice.

NudeBear said:
watching episode 3 and margery's a cunning bitch. a hot one too.

HeroKenzan20 said:

I really don't like whom Varys is supporting now...it doesn't make sense ;(

NudeBear said:


The first four episodes were a bit too easy and uneventful imo,but for the most part it's good so far.Even most of the changes bother me too much right now,because I want to see the "bigger picture" first.

toyall123 said:

We saw his allegiance in the first season. He was talking with Illyrio Mopatis in the dungeon about the Targaryens, while Arya was spying on them.

Candor said:
^ The Iron Islands chapters are so fucking boring though. The characters there are too boring, pointless, and just seem like fodder characters to just "build the world". They have no place in the series so far and all the conflicts they're trying to create are pointless and full of utter bullshit.