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| Jesus. That last part had me on the verge of tears. We're all afraid. This has to be one of the most emotional anime i've ever seen. it's so beautiufl lol |
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mayukachan said: surfboard_ said: Did you picked it? Does it inform the performers for every piece? Uhhh not who performs it but here It's just a CD with the performance pieces. :/ So theres Tchaikovsky, Rachmaninov and Debussy to come, such misfortune. |
PrinceTY said: What's wrong with these composers? Not my cup of tea. Debussy got some pretty good stuff, but for piano and violin music (considering Kousei and Kaori) I think the world has left plenty of better works from many other composers that are usually overshadowed by them. Its not that it really matters in the end, I think that almost anything can work for this show. |
| Just how philosophical elementary student or junior high can be? Seriously, I hate this part of the series |
| "Burn the heretics" |
| 5/5 Episode still set to the same pattern seen in the past, the narrative that focuses on Arima and the past that blocks it, but also to see other aspects of his past, as his opponents. The atmosphere is still very addictive, especially in the second part. The design is still fabulous and animations are no different. Fabulous scenarios played with minimal detail. I await the next episode to listen to some music. |
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| This series is getting so good. |
Toaki90 said: Just how philosophical elementary student or junior high can be? Seriously, I hate this part of the series Well, it is better than my past school life. So thats why I like it, besides... the show as it is now, to me, its like watching a book come to life. Every dialog has that literary feel. Like a line straight from the best novels. I liked this episode has always. Although the ending made me pray for a miracle that releases the entire show so I can binge watch it and get to the end. |
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| I can't stop looking at that dude's absurd spiky hair, it's kind of distracting... |
surfboard_ said: PrinceTY said: What's wrong with these composers? Not my cup of tea. Debussy got some pretty good stuff, but for piano and violin music (considering Kousei and Kaori) I think the world has left plenty of better works from many other composers that are usually overshadowed by them. Its not that it really matters in the end, I think that almost anything can work for this show. Well, it looks like a pianist will be soloing Clair de Lune some time in the next few episodes. It's a nice piece. :3 |
| Great episode. not alot of plot progress here but nice build up episode to what coming next > Watari lose the soccer game and is chance to become a star, Kousei still scare of going on stage and cant let is memories go and Kaori still try to cheer him up and get him out of it, more back story of the 2 new characters and Kousei childhood. I really enjoy this episode, next time the competition start :) i hope Kousei wouldnt end up ruined is name on stage, feel like is friends pushing him to much before he is ready. Watari is already a sleep XD |
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| Dat cliffhanger. |
| Not bad episode, Kaori such a tease. Thank goodness Arima's mother is dead, she is such a bitch. When is Arima's hair gonna turn white and when is he gonna start cracking his fingers?? |
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lucidbrandon said: Haha, I can't wait for that episode xD He will become a beast and destroy the ranking while destroying the piano!When is Arima's hair gonna turn white and when is he gonna start cracking his fingers?? |
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| A slower pace episode but I enjoyed it :D I doubt Arima will regain his oldself and win the competition with ease, if anything he might be disqualified just like Kaori for some reasons. |
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-Skyleo- said: I'm curious, who are these overshadowed composers you're thinking about ? I think I was being a little harsh when I said that citing Debussy. Its not that those are really overshadowing someone (especially in the academic field, which doesn't matter in this case), but having the Industry (not only anime but also cinema) repeating the same formula over and over is literally making the mass to forget talanted composers of their times. I'd rather have Janacek, Carl Nielsen, Edvard Grieg, Varèse, Zemlinsky, Mendelssohn and Vienese Classical (specially Haydn, a key composer for all others that came later). But again, and you got it, its just my taste and it doesn't really matter for the final product in the end, since this isn't a series focused exclusively in music. |
lucidbrandon said: When is Arima's hair gonna turn white and when is he gonna start cracking his fingers?? You mean for him to turn from this, To this. |
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FloatingList said: lucidbrandon said: When is Arima's hair gonna turn white and when is he gonna start cracking his fingers?? You mean for him to turn from this, To this. Haha. Omg. What a coincidence. I just realized that Kousei's VA is the one voicing Kaneki too in Tokyo Ghoul. And now in Shigatsu, his name is Arima. Haha. So ironic. |
| First successfully directed ep so far. |
| Jesus can walk on water. Cucumbers are 96% water. I can walk on cucumbers. I'm 96% Jesus. |
CLIFFHANGEEEERRRR!!! lol |
PrinceTY said: You remind me of a music educator that I know who would only assign repertoire that is not overplayed. The less people who know of the piece, the better it was and as a result many of his students had to deal with obscure random compositions where you couldn't even find youtube recordings of. (sometimes not even a score). Do you remember which composers you had to look up? PrinceTY said: But then again you have to remember your audience. I knew of a music director who stuck to his "classical elitist ego" and programmed an entire concert meant for the non-classical audience with stuffy suffocating sleep inducing pieces that regular people would not just get. Like wise this anime is meant to be accessible and friendly to a wider audience. I agree with the repertoire flexibility for different audiences, but this case is quite different from what I said. Any composer I mentioned are acessible enough for anyone at all, with the exception of Zemlinsky if you choose anything carelessly. Even Scriabin is in the soundtrack, in case you didn't checked. PrinceTY said: Chopin, Beethoven, Debussy, Rachmaninoff etc etc despite being overplayed and being "everywhere" and constantly overshadowing composers who may or may not be more talented are still considered to be gateway classical music for people. If you want regular people to enjoy classical music, you can't just force Bach down their throats. Taste evolves/changes over time. Beethoven isnt overshadowing anyone. He was a brilliant and unique composer, and probably the only that died with the deserved recognition. Similar goes for Chopin and Debussy, even if the latter wasn't good at orchestrating. And I don't think theres really a "gateway" for classical music. People can get into it by literally any work, be it Pictures at Exhibition, Rite of Spring, Bartók' String Quartets, Goldberg Variations or something as old as motets and mass or contemporary minimalism like Glass and Reich. "you can't just force Bach down their throats", what about his Cantatas, Cello suites and keyboard works such as WTC? |
PrinceTY said: Chopin, Beethoven, Debussy, Rachmaninoff etc etc despite being overplayed and being "everywhere" and constantly overshadowing composers who may or may not be more talented are still considered to be gateway classical music for people. If you want regular people to enjoy classical music, you can't just force Bach down their throats. Taste evolves/changes over time. This. I think in a classical music anime, it's ideal to have the more popular and well known artists (and pieces) instead of trying to find the best repertoire. People like it more if there's pieces they know like Twinkle Twinkle and Moonlight Sonata rather than less known ones. It's not like everyone who watches it is a big classical nerd and can appreciate everything in the genre. |
PrinceTY said: People can get into it by literally any work? No. I don't think so. At least for most people. How many times have I heard teenagers proclaiming that they want to learn the piano just to play some Chopin or Beethoven piece. Just look at Youtube and see how many people are dabbling their feet into works like the Moonlight Sonata without having any experience. I have never seen anybody so inspired by Bach's Prelude and Fugues that they actually want to learn an instrument just to play them. Also, you're not going to get much "response" by playing them to a non-classical crowd. Like it or not, a Chopin waltz or etude does the trick most of the time. (same goes for most of the pieces featured in this anime). People are impressed or fascinated. Bach is great. but it takes time to learn to appreciate them. I think we're more of thinking about our own life experiences. "People can get into it by literally any work?" Yes, according to the idea of probability (Some people does, some doesn't, and this will repeat in a certain proportion forever. We can't predict with a hundred percent precision how someone will react to a certain work from any composer). "How many times have I heard teenagers proclaiming that they want to learn the piano just to play some Chopin or Beethoven piece. Just look at Youtube and see how many people are dabbling their feet into works like the Moonlight Sonata without having any experience. I have never seen anybody so inspired by Bach's Prelude and Fugues that they actually want to learn an instrument just to play them." I think its an expected scenario. Not only Bach's Prelude and Fugues works are a lot more complicated to peform (inb4 we need the correct mindset and cultural knowledge in order to be able to properly play Beethoven), they are not meant to be played casually, but to study and apprimorate your musical knowledge and technique (its even considered The Old Testament of Classical Music). "Bach is great. but it takes time to learn to appreciate them". You don't need to know music to enjoy part of his works. In anime you can, for example, find a degenerate-adaptation of his first cello suite in Hyouka, and in White Album 2, Kazuza plays a piece for 3 voices (Number 2, can't find the catalogue number right now). Even my cat comes to my room to take a nap if I put some Contrapunctus from Art of Fugue to play (this actually happens hehe). PrinceTY said: Just out of curiosity, are you a full time musician or student? If not how did you get into classical music? Currently its a hobby, and this year I decided to take cello lessons (aiming to be good enough to join an Orchestra if I don't manage to find work after graduating). I think music (as well classical) has been through my life since forever. I had obligatory music classes during elementary and middle school. I'm considering studying composition later, if a good oportunity comes. PrinceTY said: Being a pianist myself I listen to piano works 99% of the time and the 1% of the time it's probably some concerto and stuff. I haven't heard stuff like Stravinsky's Rite of Spring before. (I should, but...) and I should be listening to more orchestral works. I always tell myself that but when it comes to listening for pleasure I always find myself more inclined towards the Liszt Sonata or the late Beethoven Sonatas. I consider myself to really like and enjoy classical music, but I still find it hard to really listen to Bach's WTC for pleasure. Pianist's hard life. You must have a huge repertoire to pay attention. I started looking for Orchestral works, but right now I'm a chamber-music person. I think WTC is very dynamic and varied (unless its a harpsichord performance), its great if you listen to two or three pieces, but its pretty complicated to go through everything at once. PrinceTY said: we're already straying away from the anime Theres no problem in these types of posts when more of the half are just short statments about the obvious. Its even good for those who read by accident. PrinceTY said: And it does seem that they're cutting out the Bach because in the manga every contestant had to prepare 1 WTC and 1 Chopin etude Did you notice that the first player in the competition played the first prelude from WTC book 2? I guess that only Kousei's case will be different. Since the manga will end together with the anime, I didnt bothered reading it. |
Kolnikov said: Am I the only who thinks this is going downgrade very fast? They waste more time with this pseudo-psychological bullcrap than doing music. And why they have to force everything? So cringeworthy... Well, on the other hand Shirobako just gets better and better, and show how to make a nice SoL, without being too cheesy like Shigatsu. Why it is so hard to create something more subtle and really focused on music? Damn. It's more like some people are going to and having been coming crashing down to reality and realizing what kind of story it actually is once the whole beautification gimmick wears thin. Well I mean not that MAL seems to mind an overwrought product, quite the opposite actually, but it's certainly not for everyone. Shirobako just seems like a much more low key, focused and road less traveled kind of show period though being about the trials and tribulations of making anime as opposed to teen melodrama and angst stuff. Then again it's also not an Aniplex show that seems like it's trying to dazzle and keep people hyped up over a whole lot of nothing all the time so very different kind of approach. |
Kolnikov said: Am I the only who thinks this is going downgrade very fast? They waste more time with this pseudo-psychological bullcrap than doing music. And why they have to force everything? So cringeworthy... Well, on the other hand Shirobako just gets better and better, and show how to make a nice SoL, without being too cheesy like Shigatsu. Why it is so hard to create something more subtle and really focused on music? Damn. How is something like Shigatsu comparable to Shirobako? One is SOL and one is heavy melodrama. I feel like Shigatsu's been consistently high (episode 4 high point, episode 5 lowest point, episode 6 back to strong point) while Shirobako's just on a medium entertainment level for me. Then again, opinions. |
PrinceTY said: Chamber music, admittedly, is a part of classical music I have yet to explore. You should. Its smaller and more intimate with compared with orchestral works. Formats like String Quartets are a way to show how good a composer actually is (if we're speaking about knowledge). If you find yourself some time just check famous SQs like Beethoven's latest works, Schubert's SQ No. 13, Mozart's Haydn set. If you have something against Vienese Classical, try Bartók, Villa-Lobos instead. Its as complete as you can imagine it is. Similarly, there are String Quintets. Kolnikov said: Am I the only who thinks this is going downgrade very fast? They waste more time with this pseudo-psychological bullcrap than doing music. And why they have to force everything? So cringeworthy... Well, on the other hand Shirobako just gets better and better, and show how to make a nice SoL, without being too cheesy like Shigatsu. Why it is so hard to create something more subtle and really focused on music? Damn. This show is pretty different from Shirobako, but if you have to choose only one to keep on, Shirobako reigns quite superior so far. |
PrinceTY said: Chamber music, admittedly, is a part of classical music I have yet to explore. And yes. it's extremely tiring to try to listen to the entire WTC in one go. me and a few friends tried that. it was hard. YOOO Chamber music was my life... ;_; It's actually so much funner to participate in chamber than in other kinds of ensembles (band/symphony/marching) mostly because of the skills you develop. It's also more challenging as you have to play according to how others are playing. If you want an anime that focuses on it, I can recommend La Corda D'oro Blue Sky (not a really good anime but nice repertoire overall) |
mayukachan said: If you want an anime that focuses on it, I can recommend La Corda D'oro Blue Sky (not a really good anime but nice repertoire overall) There is a pretty low rating on MAL, I'll take a look on it later. Thanks. |
surfboard_ said: mayukachan said: If you want an anime that focuses on it, I can recommend La Corda D'oro Blue Sky (not a really good anime but nice repertoire overall) There is a pretty low rating on MAL, I'll take a look on it later. Thanks. Well, I only mentioned it because it's the only anime (that I know of) that presents chamber music (string quartets, brass quintets, all the general types) frequently. Nodame Cantabile has it too (it was a trio iirc) but it's more focused on orchestral music. |
Kolnikov said: I wasn't comparing both, just comparing the execution in their respective fields. And in the beginning Shirobako was quite mediocre imo, now somehow it's growing on me. With Shigatsu is just the opposite. I was actually loving, but then I realized it isn't really about music. Oh well, a shame that I'll probably drop it within the next episodes. I was really expecting a lot from it. From the first, I already predict that it's not really about all music... :3 You probably can say that it use music as a medium to create the (melo)drama, not to use (melo)drama as a medium to create the music. You can say that it is AnoHana with music. Although IMO, the (melo)drama in here currently is more... subtle... than that of AnoHana, and the execution and idea is better than AnoHana as well. Maybe I'll stick with this show to the end cos I'm a pleb who easily attracted to sakura petals and pretty musics... Also seeing from your list, it's understandable if you feel disappointed with Shigatsu. Shirobako is a good show, one of the best things this season can offer. I'm not sticking with it, but its premises are top kek. |
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PrinceTY said: I love Shirobako too and so I'm not going to complain much when people say it's better than Shigatsu. Because it's still great.(and the last episode, 7 was actually very very good) But it just gets so annoying when obviously inferior stuff like Psycho Pass, Log Horizon etc etc is even being compared to this. The first season of Psycho-Pass is extremely well done and have a lot more substance you could ever expect in any thriller. Its not really a cyberpunk animation, but it even surpasses classics like GitS (I'm talking about the first film, which could be something amazing if wasn't too short) in terms of execution. When it comes to the second season... we know it is there just for the money and nothing else, but the production is even better than the previous one, and they understand a lot about composing TV series. Each episode doesn't give the impression of being something like a filler or empty, the content and pace is enough to fulfill your "needs" for the week. I particularly think that Shigatsu have a better story, but the direction and final product is really average at best. Some people came here to complain about the over-poetic or "complex" dialogues that middle schoolers could never ever think about, but the truth is that they aren't fitting it properly. Taking these things into consideration, Psycho-Pass 2 isnt all that inferior work, except that it wasn't needed (It should have ended in the first season). |
| I am speechless. I delayed watching this anime up until tonight since I didn't think it would be to my liking. Dear God, was I wrong. To me, a person that's not into music, never watches anime or movies related to music, that prefers stuff like fantasy and sci-fi, this is, without a doubt, anime of the season. And that includes anime adaptation of my favorite route of my favorite VN, FSN:UBW. So, yeah, I have nothing more to say. Well, except I feel sorry this anime is not yet over so I can continue watching. I love every damn second of it. |
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