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Jul 19, 2014 5:38 PM
#81
22Flames said: There are so many stupid posts in this thread that it hurts. Because heaven forbid a straight guy be able to enjoy seeing the interactions between two guys without having a sexual attraction to them. He's not straight if he watches two guy being intimidate with each other. Go look up the meaning of straight, tell me if you see it says it changes direction sometimes? If he was straight he wouldn't go a different direction. There are no gray areas for being straight. it's either he's black or white, or even both, but he's not straight. |
Jul 19, 2014 5:40 PM
#82
22Flames said: There are so many stupid posts in this thread that it hurts. Because heaven forbid a straight guy be able to enjoy seeing the interactions between two guys without having a sexual attraction to them. I recently bought a bag of skittles which naturally has five flavours in it. I don't like one flavour, but I like the other four. Just because I bought a bag of five flavours doesn't mean I like them all. I still enjoy skittles as a whole it's just that part of them I dislike. Now make this analogy into something involving Yaoi, add some personal insecurity and public shaming and we have the issue this thread is striking at. "Can I like yaoi without liking Butt-stuff?" YES. "Go look up the meaning of straight," Search Results het·er·o·sex·u·al ˌhetərōˈsekSHo͞oəl/ adjective adjective: heterosexual 1. (of a person) sexually attracted to people of the opposite sex. Watching two men become intimate with one another can be for other reasons than "I am sexually excited by this". There are no gray areas for being straight. it's either he's black or white, or even both, but he's not straight. Wrong, Sexuality is fluid. |
Jul 19, 2014 5:44 PM
#83
Amarae said: 22Flames said: There are so many stupid posts in this thread that it hurts. Because heaven forbid a straight guy be able to enjoy seeing the interactions between two guys without having a sexual attraction to them. I recently bought a bag of skittles which naturally has five flavours in it. I don't like one flavour, but I like the other four. Just because I bought a bag of five flavours doesn't mean I like them all. I still enjoy skittles as a whole it's just that part of them I dislike. Now make this analogy into something involving Yaoi, add some personal insecurity and public shaming and we have the issue this thread is striking at. "Can I like yaoi without liking Butt-stuff?" YES. "Go look up the meaning of straight," Search Results het·er·o·sex·u·al ˌhetərōˈsekSHo͞oəl/ adjective adjective: heterosexual 1. (of a person) sexually attracted to people of the opposite sex. Watching two men become intimate with one another can be for other reasons than "I am sexually excited by this". What a stupid analogy, the big difference is that he choose to watch it, no one was forcing him. "Can I like yaoi without liking Butt-stuff?" YES. That still doesn't change the fact that you're interested in a man. People can like someone without being sexually attracted to them. |
Jul 19, 2014 5:44 PM
#84
honestly though, i really want to remember this Shonen ai anime i watched a few back like both MCs had split personality disorder and one looked like a girl. i want it on my list so bad T.T some1 please help me |
Jul 19, 2014 5:58 PM
#85
keragamming said: What a stupid analogy, the big difference is that he choose to watch it, no one was forcing him. "Can I like yaoi without liking Butt-stuff?" YES. That still doesn't change the fact that you're interested in a man. People can like someone without being sexually attracted to them. I chose to buy the bag of skittles knowing there are parts of it I don't like, because I like the rest of it. No one forced me to buy it the same way no one forced him to watch yaoi. It is possible to watch all aspects of something without liking all of the aspects of something. I'm interested in lots of characters I'm not 'sexually' interested in. That comment really just proves that you can enjoy Yaoi or Yuri without being homosexual. |
Jul 19, 2014 6:01 PM
#86
Jul 19, 2014 6:03 PM
#87
This'll help you understand yourself better - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiPyMciRWQQ |
Jul 19, 2014 6:05 PM
#88
Candeloro said: "I'M NOT HOMOPHOBIC BUT I CAN'T STAND WATCHING 2 GUYS KISSING" You are homophobic. You're a heterosexual little shit. Get over yourselves. If you don't like Yaoi don't watch it. Stop spreading your homophobia over anime forums. What? It's a completely valid reason to not watch Yaoi. I dislike fanservice, so I'm not going to watch Highschool of the Dead, but that doesn't make me prejudiced against heterosexuals. If their motivation is "Because I'm not interested" then it's fair. Homophobic would be more like 'Because it's Gross!". I feel this should be a notable distinction. |
Jul 19, 2014 6:06 PM
#89
I am a gay man enjoying straight romance : I must certainly be straight ! |
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Jul 19, 2014 6:08 PM
#90
Amarae said: keragamming said: What a stupid analogy, the big difference is that he choose to watch it, no one was forcing him. "Can I like yaoi without liking Butt-stuff?" YES. That still doesn't change the fact that you're interested in a man. People can like someone without being sexually attracted to them. I chose to buy the bag of skittles knowing there are parts of it I don't like, because I like the rest of it. No one forced me to buy it the same way no one forced him to watch yaoi. It is possible to watch all aspects of something without liking all of the aspects of something. I'm interested in lots of characters I'm not 'sexually' interested in. That comment really just proves that you can enjoy Yaoi or Yuri without being homosexual. *facepalm* So tell me what is the part op didn't like about yao? The main theme of yaoi is two guys intimidate relationship, so tell me what's the part that he didn't like but he watches it any ways? Candeloro said: "I'M NOT HOMOPHOBIC BUT I CAN'T STAND WATCHING 2 GUYS KISSING" You are homophobic. You're a heterosexual little shit. Get over yourselves. If you don't like Yaoi don't watch it. Stop spreading your homophobia over anime forums. I was waiting for a comment like this. Believe it or not, I've two gay friends, one female the next one male. The argument here is that people are saying that watching yaoi doesn't mean anything. Which is totally wrong. btw if anyone that watches yaoi never had a intimate relationship with a guy, then you shouldn't feel too bad about it. You're not 100% straight though, probably 99% but they were interested in it, at least even once in their life. Again I'll say it straight means going in one direction, not changing direction sometimes. |
Jul 19, 2014 6:08 PM
#91
Amarae said: Candeloro said: "I'M NOT HOMOPHOBIC BUT I CAN'T STAND WATCHING 2 GUYS KISSING" You are homophobic. You're a heterosexual little shit. Get over yourselves. If you don't like Yaoi don't watch it. Stop spreading your homophobia over anime forums. What? It's a completely valid reason to not watch Yaoi. I dislike fanservice, so I'm not going to watch Highschool of the Dead, but that doesn't make me prejudiced against heterosexuals. If their motivation is "Because I'm not interested" then it's fair. Homophobic would be more like 'Because it's Gross!". I feel this should be a notable distinction. Let's be honest, the people who say they're not interested in it is because they think it's gross. I'm a gay man and I don't give a shit if 2 girls kiss and I have to put up with all the ecchi that most anime studios put in (ridiculously enlarged breasts, panty shots). No it is not a valid reason to not watch yaoi if you're uncomfortable with boys kissing. That means you're homophobic. tldr stop being generic homophobic little shits and watch the anime for the storyline and the plot, a kiss should not bother you. Love Stage is a great anime and I'm loving it. |
Jul 19, 2014 6:09 PM
#92
Sapewloth said: I am a gay man enjoying straight romance : I must certainly be straight ! You're bi then. |
Jul 19, 2014 6:10 PM
#93
I can't tell if these posts are serious or just trolling. People can't be this stupid. |
Jul 19, 2014 6:11 PM
#94
I don't like yuri much either but that doesn't make me gay. Whats the big deal about being gay anyway? Gay people aren't diseased. Just because there are those who're not of your like mind doesn't give you or anyone the right to criticise them. I've watched yaoi before and I don't mind saying that because at least I know how I feel and where I stand. This topic is nothing more than people wanting to feel secure about their sexuality. Like whoever and whatever you want. Nobody should be able to tell you what you yourself can and can't feel. Rant is officially over. |
"A cruel world is not without it's beauty, and many times a select few find it by mistake. Only then do those select few see the world for what it is... A disastrous masterpiece." ~ 7thVoid "Hates a river that only flows down." ~ 7thVoid |
Jul 19, 2014 6:13 PM
#95
7thVoid said: I don't like yuri much either but that doesn't make me gay. Whats the big deal about being gay anyway? Gay people aren't diseased. Just because there are those who're not of your like mind doesn't give you or anyone the right to scrutinize them. I've watched yaoi before and I don't mind saying that because at least I know how I feel and where I stand. This topic is nothing more than people wanting to feel secure about their sexuality. Like whoever and whatever you want. Nobody should be able to tell you what you yourself can and can't feel. Rant is officially over. Nothing is wrong with being gay I really don't care, I'm not into it though. That's not the point I'm making. I'm just telling the so called straight guys that watches two guys have an intimidate relationship is gay. My god. People read! |
keragammingJul 19, 2014 6:17 PM
Jul 19, 2014 6:14 PM
#96
keragamming said: I watched The Lion King and enjoyed the romance between Nala and Simba. Am I also into bestiality?Sapewloth said: I am a gay man enjoying straight romance : I must certainly be straight ! You're bi then. |
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Jul 19, 2014 6:16 PM
#97
Sapewloth said: keragamming said: I watched The Lion King and enjoyed the romance between Nala and Simba. Am I also into bestiality?Sapewloth said: I am a gay man enjoying straight romance : I must certainly be straight ! You're bi then. *facepalm* |
Jul 19, 2014 6:17 PM
#98
keragamming said: I'm just telling the so called straight guys that watches two guys have an intimidate relationship is gay. So, if I was a straight girl and watched shoujo-ai/yuri, does that make me a lesbian? |
Jul 19, 2014 6:17 PM
#99
keragamming said: 7thVoid said: I don't like yuri much either but that doesn't make me gay. Whats the big deal about being gay anyway? Gay people aren't diseased. Just because there are those who're not of your like mind doesn't give you or anyone the right to scrutinize them. I've watched yaoi before and I don't mind saying that because at least I know how I feel and where I stand. This topic is nothing more than people wanting to feel secure about their sexuality. Like whoever and whatever you want. Nobody should be able to tell you what you yourself can and can't feel. Rant is officially over. Nothing is wrong with being gay, that's not the point I'm making. I'm just telling the so called straight guys that watches two guys have an intimidate relationship, that they're not straight. My god. People read! I do read and I wasn't posting to you personally. I just feel that people shouldn't go about judging others in such a manner. Also you don't have to be gay to like a yaoi series. There are other things beside BL in the story like plot. Here's an example for you. I can honestly say that another man is handsome even my own father does this mean I have gay tendencies? I think not. |
"A cruel world is not without it's beauty, and many times a select few find it by mistake. Only then do those select few see the world for what it is... A disastrous masterpiece." ~ 7thVoid "Hates a river that only flows down." ~ 7thVoid |
Jul 19, 2014 6:17 PM
#100
keragamming said: Still waiting for a proper answer.Sapewloth said: keragamming said: Sapewloth said: I am a gay man enjoying straight romance : I must certainly be straight ! You're bi then. *facepalm* |
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Jul 19, 2014 6:17 PM
#101
[quote=keragamming]*facepalm* So tell me what is the part op didn't like about yao? The main theme of yaoi is two guys intimidate relationship, so tell me what's the part that he didn't like but he watches it any ways? Comedy and Romance, both of which are delightful and abundant in Love Stage!! Sapewloth said: ]I watched The Lion King and enjoyed the romance between Nala and Simba. Am I also into bestiality? Bwahaha. No it is not a valid reason to not watch yaoi if you're uncomfortable with boys kissing. That means you're homophobic. With us or against us hmm? No grey areas here, just good old fashioned black and white. I don't want to watch an anime about sports. Because I don't like sports. Thereby I am phobic of sports right? |
AmaraeJul 19, 2014 6:21 PM
Jul 19, 2014 6:20 PM
#102
mayukachan said: keragamming said: I'm just telling the so called straight guys that watches two guys have an intimidate relationship is gay. So, if I was a straight girl and watched shoujo-ai/yuri, does that make me a lesbian? Yep, she has interest in women. She probably still likes boys more. People are seriously not getting my point. For someone to be straight, it means they have no interest with the same sex, meaning intimate relationship. I can't call a girl 100% straight when she have a interest in watching two girls having intimate relationship. |
Jul 19, 2014 6:21 PM
#103
keragamming said: I'm not saying he will go full blown gay, and humping any guy he finds ... not sure why people are even taking you seriously. |
Jul 19, 2014 6:21 PM
#104
keragamming said: Yep, she has interest in women. She probably still likes boys more. People are seriously not getting my point. For someone to be straight, it means they have no interest with the same sex, meaning intimate relationship. I can't call a girl 100% straight when she have a interest in watching two girls having intimate relationship. I don't have any romantic interest in women at all. I've checked out a few shoujo-ai because of my male friends recommending them and they're not bad but I don't get turned on by it or anything. Have you ever considered that I might watch something for the writing or story? |
Jul 19, 2014 6:21 PM
#105
keragamming said: mayukachan said: keragamming said: I'm just telling the so called straight guys that watches two guys have an intimidate relationship is gay. So, if I was a straight girl and watched shoujo-ai/yuri, does that make me a lesbian? Yep, she has interest in women. She probably still likes boys more. People are seriously not getting my point. For someone to be straight, it means they have no interest with the same sex, meaning intimate relationship. I can't call a girl 100% straight when she have a interest in watching two girls having intimate relationship. Then your ability to label people is faulty. |
Jul 19, 2014 6:22 PM
#106
keragamming said: Then why wouldn't you call me a zoophile for having an interest in watching two lions having intimate relationship?mayukachan said: keragamming said: I'm just telling the so called straight guys that watches two guys have an intimidate relationship is gay. So, if I was a straight girl and watched shoujo-ai/yuri, does that make me a lesbian? Yep, she has interest in women. She probably still likes boys more. People are seriously not getting my point. For someone to be straight, it means they have no interest with the same sex, meaning intimate relationship. I can't call a girl 100% straight when she have a interest in watching two girls having intimate relationship. |
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Jul 19, 2014 6:25 PM
#107
7thVoid said: keragamming said: 7thVoid said: I don't like yuri much either but that doesn't make me gay. Whats the big deal about being gay anyway? Gay people aren't diseased. Just because there are those who're not of your like mind doesn't give you or anyone the right to scrutinize them. I've watched yaoi before and I don't mind saying that because at least I know how I feel and where I stand. This topic is nothing more than people wanting to feel secure about their sexuality. Like whoever and whatever you want. Nobody should be able to tell you what you yourself can and can't feel. Rant is officially over. Nothing is wrong with being gay, that's not the point I'm making. I'm just telling the so called straight guys that watches two guys have an intimidate relationship, that they're not straight. My god. People read! I do read and I wasn't posting to you personally. I just feel that people shouldn't go about judging others in such a manner. Also you don't have to be gay to like a yaoi series. There are other things beside BL in the story like plot. Here's an example for you. I can honestly say that another man is handsome even my own father does this mean I have gay tendencies? I think not. So doesn't the plot revolve around the characters relationship? If it's tagged as yaoi then it will have intimate relationship with two guys, that's the whole reason why it has the yaoi tag in the first place. There's nothing wrong with calling your father handsome. lol |
Jul 19, 2014 6:26 PM
#108
I read a news article one time about three male deer humping each other... What does that make me? |
Jul 19, 2014 6:29 PM
#109
keragamming said: mayukachan said: keragamming said: I'm just telling the so called straight guys that watches two guys have an intimidate relationship is gay. So, if I was a straight girl and watched shoujo-ai/yuri, does that make me a lesbian? Yep, she has interest in women. She probably still likes boys more. People are seriously not getting my point. For someone to be straight, it means they have no interest with the same sex, meaning intimate relationship. I can't call a girl 100% straight when she have a interest in watching two girls having intimate relationship. No one cares what you "can" and "cannot" call someone in regards to their sexuality. Sexuality is something an individual identifies with, not something others decide for you. And there is almost no such thing as 100% straight. You can identify as straight, but sexuality is not black and white. P At this point, I'm inclined to believe that you are either trolling or literally have no clue what you're talking about or arguing against. Please at least take a course on sexual psychology or something similar before you go around spouting nonsense, because it just makes you look ridiculous. I'm done with this conversation, but at least you seem to have all these other people who seem to enjoy humoring you. |
Jul 19, 2014 6:29 PM
#110
keragamming said: 7thVoid said: keragamming said: 7thVoid said: I don't like yuri much either but that doesn't make me gay. Whats the big deal about being gay anyway? Gay people aren't diseased. Just because there are those who're not of your like mind doesn't give you or anyone the right to scrutinize them. I've watched yaoi before and I don't mind saying that because at least I know how I feel and where I stand. This topic is nothing more than people wanting to feel secure about their sexuality. Like whoever and whatever you want. Nobody should be able to tell you what you yourself can and can't feel. Rant is officially over. Nothing is wrong with being gay, that's not the point I'm making. I'm just telling the so called straight guys that watches two guys have an intimidate relationship, that they're not straight. My god. People read! I do read and I wasn't posting to you personally. I just feel that people shouldn't go about judging others in such a manner. Also you don't have to be gay to like a yaoi series. There are other things beside BL in the story like plot. Here's an example for you. I can honestly say that another man is handsome even my own father does this mean I have gay tendencies? I think not. So doesn't the plot revolve around the characters relationship? If it's tagged as yaoi then it will have intimate relationship with two guys, that's the whole reason why it has the yaoi tag in the first place. There's nothing wrong with calling your father handsome. lol That's my point though. I can see other men as handsome yet that in itself doesn't mean I'm gay by any means. The overall feel of a series also should dictate what you watch not just the portrayal of relationships in them. |
"A cruel world is not without it's beauty, and many times a select few find it by mistake. Only then do those select few see the world for what it is... A disastrous masterpiece." ~ 7thVoid "Hates a river that only flows down." ~ 7thVoid |
Jul 19, 2014 6:30 PM
#111
Jackrabb1t said: Whatever that makes you, it can't be worse than someone who's interested in homosexual necrophilia among ducks.I read a news article one time about three male deer humping each other... What does that make me? |
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Jul 19, 2014 6:31 PM
#112
Sapewloth said: Jackrabb1t said: Whatever that makes you, it can't be worse than someone who's interested in homosexual necrophilia among ducks.I read a news article one time about three male deer humping each other... What does that make me? What in the serious hell? lol. I can't believe I looked at that. People are really ambitious these days. |
"A cruel world is not without it's beauty, and many times a select few find it by mistake. Only then do those select few see the world for what it is... A disastrous masterpiece." ~ 7thVoid "Hates a river that only flows down." ~ 7thVoid |
Jul 19, 2014 6:34 PM
#113
sigh... Ok, can I ask you guys a question? Just tell me if you're gay , straight or bi. |
Jul 19, 2014 6:34 PM
#114
Candeloro said: Amarae said: Candeloro said: "I'M NOT HOMOPHOBIC BUT I CAN'T STAND WATCHING 2 GUYS KISSING" You are homophobic. You're a heterosexual little shit. Get over yourselves. If you don't like Yaoi don't watch it. Stop spreading your homophobia over anime forums. What? It's a completely valid reason to not watch Yaoi. I dislike fanservice, so I'm not going to watch Highschool of the Dead, but that doesn't make me prejudiced against heterosexuals. If their motivation is "Because I'm not interested" then it's fair. Homophobic would be more like 'Because it's Gross!". I feel this should be a notable distinction. No it is not a valid reason to not watch yaoi if you're uncomfortable with boys kissing. That means you're homophobic. |
Jul 19, 2014 6:40 PM
#115
Adair said: keragamming said: mayukachan said: keragamming said: I'm just telling the so called straight guys that watches two guys have an intimidate relationship is gay. So, if I was a straight girl and watched shoujo-ai/yuri, does that make me a lesbian? Yep, she has interest in women. She probably still likes boys more. People are seriously not getting my point. For someone to be straight, it means they have no interest with the same sex, meaning intimate relationship. I can't call a girl 100% straight when she have a interest in watching two girls having intimate relationship. No one cares what you "can" and "cannot" call someone in regards to their sexuality. Sexuality is something an individual identifies with, not something others decide for you. And there is almost no such thing as 100% straight. You can identify as straight, but sexuality is not black and white. P At this point, I'm inclined to believe that you are either trolling or literally have no clue what you're talking about or arguing against. Please at least take a course on sexual psychology or something similar before you go around spouting nonsense, because it just makes you look ridiculous. I'm done with this conversation, but at least you seem to have all these other people who seem to enjoy humoring you. You probably wont reply to this, but I'll just put it out there. What I find weird about you, is that I'm not talking about the people that know that they're gay and they accept it, I'm talking to the so called straight guys. Why are you so upset? Look through my comments, Have I said anything bad about people that are gay? Did I say they should all burn? No. You shouldn't even care about my comment. The ones that are replying to my comments obviously watches yaoi, and are trying to justify themself. They're the ones that are a shame to be called gay. Notice some of the ridiculous replys I get? They're desperate to prove me wrong, so that in their heads, they can say that they're straight and is not the slightest interested in men, although the took the time to go on the net and watch/download a yaoi anime to watch in the first place. Again I have gay friends and I have no problem with them, since they know that I'm straight. If someone that's gay, reads these comments, I would be confuse to see them insulting me. My only conclusion is that you misunderstand me. |
keragammingJul 19, 2014 6:46 PM
Jul 19, 2014 6:44 PM
#116
Most yuri is made by women, for women, published at magazine for women. And I read most of them are straight despite being the target market of a genre depicting homosexual women: straight (and non straight) girls are the majority of readers. I'm not sure if yaoi is the same, I'm pretty sure the target of yaoi is women too. I think you're confusing being straight with having homophobia, a male one can read yaoi and be fully straight, it just means they don't have an aversion to homosexuals, which is what you are attributing to being straight... |
Jul 19, 2014 6:45 PM
#117
I identify as Bisexual for clarity. Also I do not believe keragaming has anything against homosexuals. The debate is more about definitions of what it is to be gay or straight. Kera believes that any interest in the intimacy between two males or females regardless of context denotes a leaning towards homosexuality. Which is not entirely untrue. I imagine a majority of people do actually have a tendency towards homosexuality, regardless of how "Straight" they are, but I don't believe that it is absolute, and that it is entirely possible to enjoy what Yaoi has to offer without being homosexual/ Most yuri is made by women, for women, published at magazine for women. I'm pretty sure the target of yaoi is women too. They sure nailed me with that one. Shoujo/Shounen-ai (Romance in general really) is definitely my favourite. No it is not a valid reason to not watch yaoi if you're uncomfortable with boys kissing. That means you're homophobic. Uncomfortable =!/= Uninterested. |
AmaraeJul 19, 2014 6:50 PM
Jul 19, 2014 6:46 PM
#118
keragamming said: Adair said: keragamming said: mayukachan said: keragamming said: I'm just telling the so called straight guys that watches two guys have an intimidate relationship is gay. So, if I was a straight girl and watched shoujo-ai/yuri, does that make me a lesbian? Yep, she has interest in women. She probably still likes boys more. People are seriously not getting my point. For someone to be straight, it means they have no interest with the same sex, meaning intimate relationship. I can't call a girl 100% straight when she have a interest in watching two girls having intimate relationship. No one cares what you "can" and "cannot" call someone in regards to their sexuality. Sexuality is something an individual identifies with, not something others decide for you. And there is almost no such thing as 100% straight. You can identify as straight, but sexuality is not black and white. P At this point, I'm inclined to believe that you are either trolling or literally have no clue what you're talking about or arguing against. Please at least take a course on sexual psychology or something similar before you go around spouting nonsense, because it just makes you look ridiculous. I'm done with this conversation, but at least you seem to have all these other people who seem to enjoy humoring you. You probably wont reply to this, but I'll just put it out there. What I find weird about you, is that I'm not talking about the people that know that they're gay and they accept it, I'm talking to the so called straight guys. Why are you so upset? Look through my comments, Have I said anything bad about people that are gay? Did I say they should all burn? No. You shouldn't even care about my comment. The ones that are replying to my comments obviously watches yaoi, and are trying to justify themself. They're the ones that are a shame to be called gay. Notice some of the ridiculous replys I get? They're desperate to prove me wrong, so that in their heads, they can say, that they're straight and is not the slightest interested in men, although the took the time to go on the net and watch/download a yaoi anime to watch in the first place. Since you asked, I'm straight. Now if you think me watching a yaoi series makes me gay then go on ahead and call me gay. I have no problem with how certain individuals see me. As I said, I know where I stand and that's all I need. |
"A cruel world is not without it's beauty, and many times a select few find it by mistake. Only then do those select few see the world for what it is... A disastrous masterpiece." ~ 7thVoid "Hates a river that only flows down." ~ 7thVoid |
Jul 19, 2014 6:53 PM
#119
Amarae said: I identify as Bisexual for clarity. Also I do not believe keragaming has anything against homosexuals. The debate is more about definitions of what it is to be gay or straight. Kera believes that any interest in the intimacy between two males or females regardless of context denotes a leaning towards homosexuality. Which is not entirely untrue. I imagine a majority of people do actually have a tendency towards homosexuality, regardless of how "Straight" they are, but I don't believe that it is absolute, and that it is entirely possible to enjoy what Yaoi has to offer without being homosexual/ Most yuri is made by women, for women, published at magazine for women. They sure nailed me with that one. Shoujo/Shounen-ai (Romance in general really) is definitely my favourite. Thank you. The thing is there is a fine line from being gay to being straight. This is just my opinion. Let me give you a example. If you make gay jokes to someone , I'll think of it as a joke, hell, Even I make gay comments sometimes. But now when you chose to go and watch two guys or girls having a intimate relationship, then that's going a bit too far imo. |
Jul 19, 2014 6:59 PM
#120
7thVoid said: keragamming said: Adair said: keragamming said: mayukachan said: keragamming said: I'm just telling the so called straight guys that watches two guys have an intimidate relationship is gay. So, if I was a straight girl and watched shoujo-ai/yuri, does that make me a lesbian? Yep, she has interest in women. She probably still likes boys more. People are seriously not getting my point. For someone to be straight, it means they have no interest with the same sex, meaning intimate relationship. I can't call a girl 100% straight when she have a interest in watching two girls having intimate relationship. No one cares what you "can" and "cannot" call someone in regards to their sexuality. Sexuality is something an individual identifies with, not something others decide for you. And there is almost no such thing as 100% straight. You can identify as straight, but sexuality is not black and white. P At this point, I'm inclined to believe that you are either trolling or literally have no clue what you're talking about or arguing against. Please at least take a course on sexual psychology or something similar before you go around spouting nonsense, because it just makes you look ridiculous. I'm done with this conversation, but at least you seem to have all these other people who seem to enjoy humoring you. You probably wont reply to this, but I'll just put it out there. What I find weird about you, is that I'm not talking about the people that know that they're gay and they accept it, I'm talking to the so called straight guys. Why are you so upset? Look through my comments, Have I said anything bad about people that are gay? Did I say they should all burn? No. You shouldn't even care about my comment. The ones that are replying to my comments obviously watches yaoi, and are trying to justify themself. They're the ones that are a shame to be called gay. Notice some of the ridiculous replys I get? They're desperate to prove me wrong, so that in their heads, they can say, that they're straight and is not the slightest interested in men, although the took the time to go on the net and watch/download a yaoi anime to watch in the first place. Since you asked, I'm straight. Now if you think me watching a yaoi series makes me gay then go on ahead and call me gay. I have no problem with how certain individuals see me. As I said, I know where I stand and that's all I need. I would call you lvl 1 gay, if you watch yaoi. start holding hands with a guy, lvl 2 gay, start kissing a guy lvl 3 gay, start having sex with a guy full blown gay. lol |
Jul 19, 2014 6:59 PM
#121
Jul 19, 2014 7:00 PM
#122
keragamming said: Amarae said: I identify as Bisexual for clarity. Also I do not believe keragaming has anything against homosexuals. The debate is more about definitions of what it is to be gay or straight. Kera believes that any interest in the intimacy between two males or females regardless of context denotes a leaning towards homosexuality. Which is not entirely untrue. I imagine a majority of people do actually have a tendency towards homosexuality, regardless of how "Straight" they are, but I don't believe that it is absolute, and that it is entirely possible to enjoy what Yaoi has to offer without being homosexual/ Most yuri is made by women, for women, published at magazine for women. They sure nailed me with that one. Shoujo/Shounen-ai (Romance in general really) is definitely my favourite. Thank you. The thing is there is a fine line from being gay to being straight. This is just my opinion. Let me give you a example. If you make gay jokes to someone , I'll think of it as a joke, hell, Even I make gay comments sometimes. But now when you chose to go and watch two guys or girls having a intimate relationship, then that's going a bit too far imo. Well if we've made it clear to explain our positions at this point there isn't anything left to say besides "I disagree" and I guess we can leave it at that. It's curious how someone can see an opposing opinion and truly think of it as "Trolling" though. To be honest, I think that is simply a less mature way of saying "I DON'T LIKE YOUR OPINION BUT DON"T HAVE ANYTHING LEFT TO REFUTE IT WITH!". But to continue that point would require a different thread. The point here is that everyone is head over heels for Love Stage!! right? |
Jul 19, 2014 7:01 PM
#123
ReaperCreeper said: You must be pretty insecure to think watching something makes you gay. I watched lolican hentai, that makes me lvl 1 pedo. I don't want to go any further than that. |
Jul 19, 2014 7:08 PM
#124
keragamming said: ReaperCreeper said: You must be pretty insecure to think watching something makes you gay. I watched lolican hentai, that makes me lvl 1 pedo. I don't want to go any further than that. lol. Alright then. If I'm gay and you're a pedo what does that make us when we're put together? I must know! |
"A cruel world is not without it's beauty, and many times a select few find it by mistake. Only then do those select few see the world for what it is... A disastrous masterpiece." ~ 7thVoid "Hates a river that only flows down." ~ 7thVoid |
Jul 19, 2014 7:08 PM
#125
Real yaoi are gay buttsecks orgies. If you voluntarily watch that as a male, then you are for sure gay, bi or insane. |
Proud founder of the 20+ virgins club. Please visit my manga blog for manga updates and more! Mup da doo didda po mo muhfuggen bix nood ^ Need someone who can translate this. Pm me pls. |
Jul 19, 2014 7:12 PM
#126
Jul 19, 2014 7:15 PM
#127
ReaperCreeper said: Shiratori99 said: Real yaoi are gay buttsecks orgies. If you voluntarily watch that as a male, then you are for sure gay, bi or insane. Only if they get turned on. -> insane |
Proud founder of the 20+ virgins club. Please visit my manga blog for manga updates and more! Mup da doo didda po mo muhfuggen bix nood ^ Need someone who can translate this. Pm me pls. |
Jul 19, 2014 7:17 PM
#128
7thVoid said: keragamming said: ReaperCreeper said: You must be pretty insecure to think watching something makes you gay. I watched lolican hentai, that makes me lvl 1 pedo. I don't want to go any further than that. lol. Alright then. If I'm gay and you're a pedo what does that make us when we're put together? I must know! We can't be mix we are totally different. We are lvl 1s, that means we have some interest, but lvl only means we are only interested in these stuff in the anime world, meaning only by watching it. Now when you have intention to be with a human now you have evolve from a lvl 1 to a lvl 2! lol Which I wouldn't recommend anyone to go to lvl 2, because when you go there, there's almost no way turning back. |
keragammingJul 19, 2014 7:21 PM
Jul 19, 2014 7:18 PM
#129
Jul 19, 2014 7:22 PM
#130
keragamming said: 7thVoid said: keragamming said: ReaperCreeper said: You must be pretty insecure to think watching something makes you gay. I watched lolican hentai, that makes me lvl 1 pedo. I don't want to go any further than that. lol. Alright then. If I'm gay and you're a pedo what does that make us when we're put together? I must know! We can't be mix we are totally different. We are lvl 1s, that means we have some interest, but lvl only means we are only interested in these stuff in the anime world, meaning only by watching it. Now when you have intention to be with a human now you have evolve from a lvl 1 to a lvl 2! lol Which I wouldn't recommend anyone to go to lvl 2, because when you go there, there's almost no way turning back. Ah, ok. Now I get it. |
"A cruel world is not without it's beauty, and many times a select few find it by mistake. Only then do those select few see the world for what it is... A disastrous masterpiece." ~ 7thVoid "Hates a river that only flows down." ~ 7thVoid |
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