Light Novel 'Ore ga Ojousama Gakkou ni 'Shomin Sample' Toshite Rachirareta Ken' To Get Anime Adaptation
Rachmaninow said: Rail Wars just proved once again that 95% of LN adaptions are utter horse crap. I like you already. |
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| hatakaru maou-sama and durarara are LNs. so... yeah |
Rachmaninow said: Ore no generic bla bla bla Rail Wars just proved once again that 95% of LN adaptions are utter horse crap. Indeed. |
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Tengai said: Heh, why not?? Will watch it, but please......give us an awesome MC!! Don't hold your breath, this is a LN adaptation after all. |
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SolviteSekai said: hatakaru maou-sama and durarara are LNs. so... yeah That's what the other 5% is for. |
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| Well if you're looking for your mediocre harem anime i guess you can be happy with this one.I'm reading the manga and for your surpise is all about PLOT,yep. I will be happy just when i will get Re:Monster anime or something similar to it. |
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NihonFalcom said: SolviteSekai said: hatakaru maou-sama and durarara are LNs. so... yeah That's what the other 5% is for. I stand corrected. |
Hoppy said: ZetaZaku said: What worries me is that a portion of Japanese actually like this and are willing to pay every yen for it. Can the otaku get even more pathetic? I can't see this selling more than 2.5k, I don't mind (and often like) anime being created specifically for Otaku, but this is just dreadful and it's showing that many novelists aren't even trying anymore to create an immersive LN and the studios are failing to see how bad these adaptations really are and it's showing in the often low BD/DVD sales of many LN adaptations, what we are seeing is the downfall of LN adaptations and the harem genre. The harem genre needs to switch to being primarily anime original then it could thrive again. I find its mainly the smaller studios that depend heavily on these to try to turn at least a minor profit. Its pretty sad, but most studios still just lack the resources and planning to do any better. Not every studio can be like Sunrise or I.G and just create their own successful and oftentimes diverse IPs for all audiences or to buy up every exploitable license with more potential to be a big seller to then dish out to willing contractors like the Aniplex model. A lot of the anime industry is sadly just a matter of fighting over table scraps from the LN market in the hopes of landing that one surprise 7-10K hit like a NGNL or Yahari Love Comedy |
PeacingOutJul 4, 2014 2:19 PM
| Poor Baccano. All those fun LN arcs never to be animated. Fetishes and harems win yet again. |
Kaioshin_Sama said: Hoppy said: I can't see this selling more than 2.5k, I don't mind (and often like) anime being created specifically for Otaku, but this is just dreadful and it's showing that many novelists aren't even trying anymore to create an immersive LN and the studios are failing to see how bad these adaptations really are and it's showing in the often low BD/DVD sales of many LN adaptations, what we are seeing is the downfall of LN adaptations and the harem genre. The harem genre needs to switch to being primarily anime original then it could thrive again. I find its mainly the smaller studios that depend heavily on these to try to turn at least a minor profit. Its pretty sad, but most studios still just lack the resources and planning to do any better. Not every studio can be like Sunrise or I.G and just create their own successful and oftentimes diverse IPs for all audiences or to buy up every exploitable license with more potential to be a big seller to then dish out to willing contractors like the Aniplex model. A lot of the anime industry is sadly just a matter of fighting over table scraps from the LN market in the hopes of landing that one surprise 7-10K hit like a NGNL or Yahari Love Comedy If a small studio is animating this, I feel sorry for the studio to have to be reduced to making anime like this that cater to the very bottom of the barrel. It's like a new idol studio desperately trying establish itself by reducing itself to producing junior idols only because it will turn a small, quick profit despite that type of group appealing only to the lowest of the low. |
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| Somebody please tell me why this trash gets an anime adaptation but a masterpiece like Vagabond still doesn't have one |
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Kaioshin_Sama said: Hoppy said: I can't see this selling more than 2.5k, I don't mind (and often like) anime being created specifically for Otaku, but this is just dreadful and it's showing that many novelists aren't even trying anymore to create an immersive LN and the studios are failing to see how bad these adaptations really are and it's showing in the often low BD/DVD sales of many LN adaptations, what we are seeing is the downfall of LN adaptations and the harem genre. The harem genre needs to switch to being primarily anime original then it could thrive again. I find its mainly the smaller studios that depend heavily on these to try to turn at least a minor profit. Its pretty sad, but most studios still just lack the resources and planning to do any better. Not every studio can be like Sunrise or I.G and just create their own successful and oftentimes diverse IPs for all audiences or to buy up every exploitable license with more potential to be a big seller to then dish out to willing contractors like the Aniplex model. A lot of the anime industry is sadly just a matter of fighting over table scraps from the LN market in the hopes of landing that one surprise 7-10K hit like a NGNL or Yahari Love Comedy And then you got Madhouse, often considered to be among the strongest studios, and their last couple of shows were LN adaptations. It's sad when a studio can do better, and ends up doing crappy LN adaptations. Soon, some people will only remember Madhouse for Mahouka and NGNL haha. |
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micoda9 said: Somebody please tell me why this trash gets an anime adaptation but a masterpiece like Vagabond still doesn't have one They don't get premium merchandise and don't sell BDs in Japan. |
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| People love to rant about petty things, don't they? Anyway, The manga version of this series is quite nice and funny so i am looking forward to see this series animated. |
| sounds interesting, added to PTW |
| *sigh* not interested |
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| Too much bash on LN adaptation. Gee does hater forgot that anime like Shinsekai Yori and Sunday without God is part of those new LN adaptation being hated here? Anyway, this kind of title is purely for guilty pleasure so theirs no point on saying how poor LN adaptation nowadays. |
mlcdlJul 5, 2014 7:04 PM
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VulgarFairy said: More LN adaptations can only ever be a good thing! Probably the best source for adapting into anime, very, very rare I've seen a bad series based on a LN. Synopsis sounds interesting to me. Uh... There are plenty of BLAND anime out there adapted from Light Novel. But I see your point, since there are very few pictures, more is left to the directors' creativity. This kind of interests me... There is obviously a market for this kind of Anime to be adapted, and sell. But with ALL these shows with exact same premises, HOW is it still possible that it's STILL coming out at this rate? Is it the publishers playing it safe? Or do they still think these can be successes beyond 3k or so? Another thing. DVD COSTS MONEY. I don't imagine there are so many parents willing to give their children, presumed adults, that much money consistently to waste. I think the market for these kind of shows for people to watch, get off to/whatever, might be more diverse than what I previously thought... Anyhow, plenty of redflags in the synopsis show that it isn't different from most series of its genre. But... I actually recently started to like the Ojou-sama type of characters, if done right(I don't mean I LIKE them as a character). So I might check out the manga to see how it is. |
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| I have read 7 volumes of the LN and find it funny and interesting. Can't wait to see it getting animated! |
Chibi-Alice said: And i see that the contest for longest title is still going on.. Hobi said: Could this be the longest name yet for an anime? Anyway i love novel adaptations! hope this will be good. Is the contest still going on cos I found this --> http://myanimelist.net/anime/19221/Ore_no_Nounai_Sentakushi_ga_Gakuen_Love_Comedy_wo_Zenryoku_de_Jama_Shiteiru Yeah, probably the longest |
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| Of all things, they wanna adapt this? Eh, sure, why not. |
| Well... I just read the whole manga that's avaliable, there's a few things I might point out: The whole manga felt bland. Some of it has to do with the unfilled backgrounds, which forces us to focus on the characters, which weren't drawn too well either(except the colored panels, the artists always seem to get those right for some reason). Most were bland characters. Hell, in the manga, I could in NO WAY distinguish the Samurai girl from Kuroyukihime from Accel World. Other than the designs, the characters themselves were pretty lazily designed(which has been a chronic fault in the harem genre for a while now). Pretty much, I couldn't distinguish many of them from their archetypical cousins from other franchises. The one I liked was uh... Arisugawa, uh... Reiko? See, I can't even remember the name of the most favored character I have! One is a typical loli tsundere. But they are adding the element of Sena Kashiwazaki in it... Very unoriginal. Another is Yuki Nagato clone. I DO NOT LIKE Yuki Nagato Clones. Ugh, building an emotionless character isn't so simple! Another a samurai girl/stronk/whatever. But yeah, the typical Ojou-sama blonde is my favorite for some reason, she changes midway throughout the series so far. Also, a minor character at first is the maid, she's just the typical cruel girl that ends up loving the main character, kuudere. Anyhow, it lives up to its premise of just exploring the purity of the ojou-sama. At least the author has some recognition when he said "what is this? some cheesy manga?" The main character, or any of the other characters, are nothing that you haven't seen before. Hell, I could swear I saw that maid in a Doge before... The manga at least, has terrible depiction of environment. Quite a bit of fanservice(look at the manga covers), and average character design(very). the amount of threat to the male character, male character humiliation is just... I don't like, the male character is somewhat better than a complete loser since he makes fun of the tsundere loli, but yeah, he might as well as be "Protagonist." One thing though, I am going to enjoy the Doge coming from this series, has great potential! |
| "Justice Never Dies!" - Kenji Endou, 20th century Boys |
mlcdl said: Too much bash on LN adaptation. Gee does hater forgot that anime like Shinsekai Yori and Sunday without God is part of those new LN adaptation being hated here? Anyway, this kind of title is purely for guilty pleasure so theirs no point on saying how poor LN adaptation nowadays. Shisneki Yori is a real novel and Sunday Without God was mediocre at best. And not all Ln are bad, it's just that Sturgeon's Law applies to them as well and the bad ones tend to get animated more. Sadly, for every Baccano, Kino no Tabi and Shinsekai Yori we get 15 harem, romcom and/or ecchi LN adaptions of the worst kind. |
| Steel Ball Run anime when? |
Nidhoeggr said: Shinsekai Yori is a real novel There is no "real novel" (except if you acknowledge other published stuff to be "false novels", hmm right). As said before again and again on this website, the only difference between novel and light novel in japan is the publishing label. Leaving that point aside, well, we see that kind of generic stuff being adapted quite often because no-generic stuff can't be adapted as easily on an anime support. Those adaptations aren't seen again and again because people buy it. It doesn't sells enough to encourage studios adapting more of them. This is the LN publishers ordering adaptation on specific LN to help the title selling more. And THIS actually works. Short (and therefore not too costly) one cour anime and easy to adapt LN (again, not too costly) is the key here. That, and choosing titles that have enough in common with anime to find enough customers ready to buy that type of LN interested after watching the anime. People who would buy more complicated/original LN won't be lead as much to buy with anime adaptation, or at the very least it would require far more money to adapt it. If anything, I'd say that it's the LN publishers looking down on the anime media as a mere way to advertise for their generic LN titles, as well as looking down on anime watcher as not able to being hooked to more complicated series, which leads to the increase of such generic school harem LN adaptations. I see a lot of people looking down on LN, but seriously, isn't the whole LN industry looking down on the anime community, I wonder. |
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| well that was kind of a boring synopsis, i guess it will be another average harem. |
Zefyris said: Nidhoeggr said: Shinsekai Yori is a real novel There is no "real novel" (except if you acknowledge other published stuff to be "false novels", hmm right). As said before again and again on this website, the only difference between novel and light novel in japan is the publishing label. Leaving that point aside, well, we see that kind of generic stuff being adapted quite often because no-generic stuff can't be adapted as easily on an anime support. Those adaptations aren't seen again and again because people buy it. It doesn't sells enough to encourage studios adapting more of them. This is the LN publishers ordering adaptation on specific LN to help the title selling more. And THIS actually works. Short (and therefore not too costly) one cour anime and easy to adapt LN (again, not too costly) is the key here. That, and choosing titles that have enough in common with anime to find enough customers ready to buy that type of LN interested after watching the anime. People who would buy more complicated/original LN won't be lead as much to buy with anime adaptation, or at the very least it would require far more money to adapt it. If anything, I'd say that it's the LN publishers looking down on the anime media as a mere way to advertise for their generic LN titles, as well as looking down on anime watcher as not able to being hooked to more complicated series, which leads to the increase of such generic school harem LN adaptations. I see a lot of people looking down on LN, but seriously, isn't the whole LN industry looking down on the anime community, I wonder. The way I think about it, LN are short novels with manga-like illustrations. But that's an insightful opinion about this process! So it does bring in revenue of generic LN... |
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| Meh. Looks like something that would get short episodes, probably no more than 5-10 minutes each. If it's any more than that then this show will fall off my radar. |
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Zefyris said: As said before again and again on this website, the only difference between novel and light novel in japan is the publishing label. I don't think so. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_novel |
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tsudecimo said: Zefyris said: As said before again and again on this website, the only difference between novel and light novel in japan is the publishing label. I don't think so. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_novel The fact that the contents of that article are entirely different from the one on the Japanese wikipedia should give you an indication of just how (un)reliable it is. Zefyris said: isn't the whole LN industry looking down on the anime community, I wonder. Interesting. I never really thought of it like that. |
kuuderes_shadowJul 7, 2014 12:26 PM
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kuuderes_shadow said: The fact that the contents of that article are entirely different from the one on the Japanese wikipedia should give you an indication of just how (un)reliable it is. Zefyris said: isn't the whole LN industry looking down on the anime community, I wonder. Interesting. I never really thought of it like that. I guess that publishers just sees it as a tool for promoting their products, but that's an... interesting way to look at it. Though they're obviously not intentionally doing this. They have to make profit, and risking it on innovative series rather than using an established formula is just the way, dunno how it was in the 1990s or so though. |
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| AHHHHHHHHHH! Nice. |
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kuuderes_shadow said: The fact that the contents of that article are entirely different from the one on the Japanese wikipedia should give you an indication of just how (un)reliable it is. Zefyris said: isn't the whole LN industry looking down on the anime community, I wonder. Interesting. I never really thought of it like that. If you think of light novels as actual books you need to work on increasing your reading level. |
| Gee does hater forgot that anime like Shinsekai Yori? |
Kumagawa said: Gee does hater forgot that anime like Shinsekai Yori? As he said, Shinsekai Yori is not a light novel. |
| Gee does hater forgot that anime like Sunday without God? |
Kumagawa said: Gee does hater forgot that anime like Sunday without God? http://myanimelist.net/anime/16009/Kamisama_no_Inai_Nichiyoubi Rated 7.67 (basically a 5 on mal) Complete commercial failure that was instantly forgotten. |
| My argument got fucked sideways how do I even defend |
Kumagawa said: My argument got fucked sideways how do I even defend Reference Oregairu. It was based on a light novel and everyone wrote it off just like they are writing this show off. Turned out to be amazing. People should stop judging books by their cover. Practically every anime has a harem in it because awesome men generally draw the attention of women. It would be more unrealistic for a guy who has charm and power to be a complete asexual. |
SolviteSekai said: kuuderes_shadow said: The fact that the contents of that article are entirely different from the one on the Japanese wikipedia should give you an indication of just how (un)reliable it is. Interesting. I never really thought of it like that. If you think of light novels as actual books you need to work on increasing your reading level. They're objectively books, definitely not sophisticated though. |
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SolviteSekai said: If you think of light novels as actual books you need to work on increasing your reading level. My reading level is so high I can read in several foreign language, you see. LN are books, obviously. Even more precisely, LN are novels. SolviteSekai said: Kumagawa said: Gee does hater forgot that anime like Shinsekai Yori? As he said, Shinsekai Yori is not a light novel. If tomorrow the publisher decide to publish Shinsekai Yori under a LN label, Shinsekai Yori will be a LN without changing a single word from it. This happened for quite a good amount of novels with anime adaptation, so it could happen as well (note: the contrary can also happen, like the GOSICK series ). It's just a matter of publishing label, not a matter of content. They're objectively books, definitely not sophisticated though. Define sophisticated here? Because I don't think you can write off some of the LN I read as "not sophisticated" . |
ZefyrisJul 8, 2014 5:00 AM
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Zefyris said: SolviteSekai said: If you think of light novels as actual books you need to work on increasing your reading level. My reading level is so high I can read in several foreign language, you see. LN are books, obviously. Even more precisely, LN are novels. SolviteSekai said: As he said, Shinsekai Yori is not a light novel. If tomorrow the publisher decide to publish Shinsekai Yori under a LN label, Shinsekai Yori will be a LN without changing a single word from it. This happened for quite a good amount of novels with anime adaptation, so it could happen as well (note: the contrary can also happen, like the GOSICK series ). It's just a matter of publishing label, not a matter of content. They're objectively books, definitely not sophisticated though. Define sophisticated here? Because I don't think you can write off some of the LN I read as "not sophisticated" . Swap out the word definitely for "generally." Better? Anyhow, I see where you are getting "Anime is just Advertisement for LN" from. I had heard that Date a Live even got commercials for it's LN a little before the Anime aired. It makes sense... Give them a preview of what it looks like, and have readers drool over high quality(I think) pictures of the books while enjoying a story. Intrigued... What LN do you think are sophisticated? |
GodlyKyonJul 8, 2014 8:34 AM
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| Nobody thinks this will be garbage because it is a LN. It looks like garbage, because the synopsis alone is full of tired, trite, overdone, uninspired, uncreative, boring, driveling cliches that we've all seen a million times. That are, not to mention, sexist and based in the assumption that the audience is full of braindead sex starved losers who are more interested in panty shots than personal dignity. People are saying that this is crap because it looks and sounds repugnant. Whether it's a LN or not has nothing to do with it. |
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| This anime sounds like its going to be full of abusive tsundere's and homophobia. |
A_Fat_Man said: This anime sounds like its going to be full of abusive tsundere's and mophobia. I am not sure about the homophobia part, but there's abusive tsundere for sure(maybe the part about muscular guys). there's the maid who is emotionally abusive. There's the samurai kuroyukihime clone who's physically abusive... That's it though. |
| "Justice Never Dies!" - Kenji Endou, 20th century Boys |
GodlyKyon said: A_Fat_Man said: This anime sounds like its going to be full of abusive tsundere's and mophobia. I am not sure about the homophobia part, but there's abusive tsundere for sure(maybe the part about muscular guys). there's the maid who is emotionally abusive. There's the samurai kuroyukihime clone who's physically abusive... That's it though. I feel sorry for the studio who's animating this, big or small, they deserve better. Makes me wonder if there's anything good about this LN, this has to be the NES Dr Jekyll and Mr. Hyde of LNs. |
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Hoppy said: GodlyKyon said: I am not sure about the homophobia part, but there's abusive tsundere for sure(maybe the part about muscular guys). there's the maid who is emotionally abusive. There's the samurai kuroyukihime clone who's physically abusive... That's it though. I feel sorry for the studio who's animating this, big or small, they deserve better. Makes me wonder if there's anything good about this LN, this has to be the NES Dr Jekyll and Mr. Hyde of LNs. Well... I am not too sure how many of these LNs come out each year exactly... This one seems generic enough, with the long name, cute looking girls, and generic personality and all... I don't really know if anything is wrong. It's kind of silly to have my pride swelled up just because this is Anime/LN, since there are so many diverse styles in the medium. I guess the best hope is that authors and publishers would try harder in making these series. Though not that many are good story writers. God. This issue is frustrating, there are so many of these LNs coming out that its obviously a trend, but I just can't put my finger on what's wrong with it. |
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GodlyKyon said: Well... I am not too sure how many of these LNs come out each year exactly... There are typically about 50 volumes coming out per week, although about 10-20% of these are erotica, which never get adapted. Furthermore, most LN series are also too short to justify TV anime adaptations. |
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