| Depends on the importance they and you place on the social groups around them. Its very possible to not be at the level of someone else because of that. Fundamentally all people are equal. In reality and praticality that is false. For example, if you were a multimillion dollar hieress, would you date a bum that was 20 years older or younger than you? Likely not a snowballs chance in hell. |
| you never say hey or remember my name and its probably cuz you think you're cooler than me |
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| if she rejected you then she is out of your league lol |
j0x said: if she rejected you then she is out of your league lol How does that mean that she is out of his league? These two things can co-exist at the same time. 1 - He is in her league (though this league I don't believe exists, it's just a psychological barrier that you created which makes you think that you're not good enough for her. And I'm using it as an example) 2 - She is not interested in him. |
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yogotah said: We share the same major, so we met in class. She kinda of struggled with calculus, so she would end up in my dorm studying with me alot. We got to know each other really well, and she opened up to me in ways that she hasn't with others. Sometimes, I feel like I was manipulating her, because there is a sort of "intellectual" gap, and it seems that I know what to say at the right times. There was even a night, where we kissed. Ok, so you've guys have hanged out and even shared a kiss! That's got to mean something right? And you say she's opened up to you. Surely this means that she trusts you enough to let you in on things about her. And I don't see how you manipulated her with this intellectual gap. Maybe you can explain some more. Because here's how I see it from what you've told me so far. You're helping her with calculus because she needs the help and you know calculus. I don't see how this translates into manipulating her. yogotah said: However, I felt terribly guilty about it, since I kinda of manipulated the situation to get the kiss and didn't talk to her for several weeks. Later on, I realized that I probably had feelings for this girl. We started to hang out again, eating dinner, she's texts me on a regular basis. How did you manipulate the situation to get the kiss? The only situation I see here is a friend helping out another on calculus. Plus you guys kissed, that means something. As long as you didn't force her into a kiss that's totally fine. Since you've started to develop feelings for her she's probably already developed feelings for you too. Hence the reason she's having dinner with you and texts you on a regular basis. yogotah said: However, some of her friends are talking. They don't like me, and some of my friends don't like the girl. We live in different social atmospheres, and where we are from, social status is pretty significant. So this is where the problem kicks in. Here you have to ask yourself. Do you care about your relationship with the girl more, or do you care about what other's think more? It it were me, fuck everyone else. I like this girl so I'm going to go for it. yogotah said: I'm the nonchalant 'A' student that hangs with others like me, while she hangs out with cheerleaders, football jocks, and drinkers... Doesn't matter. From what I've read, despite the fact that you're the "A" student, and she's the "popular" girl, she is still hanging out with you. This means something. And this something, is that she probably doesn't care that you're not the usual type of people she hangs out with. She likes you for who you are. Heck, you guys even shared a kiss! yogotah said: The whole "out of my league" is something some of my peers brought up when I told them I would ask her out. It won't stop me from doing so, but I never heard that term before hand. Again. Here you have to ask yourself. Do you care about your relationship with the girl more, or do you care about what other's think more? Hope this helps you out bro. Long story short, if you like her, and you get the feeling that she likes you too, go for it. Don't let others deter you from going out with a girl that can potentially become your future life partner. |
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| You're meant to say "Is it possible for someone to be up to my league" I think everyone here is kawaii. |
UchihaApr 18, 2014 7:22 PM
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| A master pursuing a relationship with their slave? Preposterous! It's more likely than you think. |
| ever notice successful, attractive men have hot random wives, and gorgeous successful women often choose ugly, older, highly intelligent men? thats b/c i really think that women value intellect and deserved success more than appearance look at padma lakshmi - she married salman rushdie? wow. catherine zeta jones - she married michael douglas. age is not a matter so much. personality, great success, they take over smart chicks, smart choice |
| There's this one spicy Portuguese/Brazilian woman who goes to my college & drives a Range. Obviously, she's out of my league, but how can I win? She keeps draggin' me in, and I know I... never will be good enough for her. |
| Konbu is important |
| Short answer is yes A girl can most definitely be out of your league, but it has nothing to do with what you like to do. Women like very confident, well dressed, successful/highly motivated. Being a gentleman is always a plus no matter what anyone says. Just don't go overboard with it. All these contribute to making you the strongest version of yourself, and if you are not into that stuff then most desirable women will always be out of your league. (and you'll be cheating yourself out of a great life) |
| yeah, but don't let that stop you |
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Pralando said: That's why I have trained my teddy bear to be a master assassin.RandomChampion said: btw what's a bed lurker that sounds mad shady....im interested You break into people's house, hide under their bed and when they fall asleep you... But yes, it is possible for someone to be out of your league. For example, a woman who is a lesbian. Another type of ball game entirely. |
yogotah said: I didn't directly manipulate her as much as I manipulated situations. Like early on, when we barely knew each other, she wanted to study earlier, and I would make up excuses so that we would meet up a bit later to give myself more optimal opportunities. This was back when I saw her only for her physical beauty. I would tell my roommates to scram, so I would be alone with her. I guess what I am trying to say is that initially, I was trying to use everything in my advantage to get into "her pants". The kiss happened due to my cunning manipulation of words. She started opening up to me, and I would say the "right" things, instead of the 'natural' things, and ended up getting a kiss for it. Obviously, she had to be slightly attracted to me for that to happen, but I felt, at the time, that though she poured her heart out to me, I wasn't genuine. Kinda of felt repulsed at myself, and didn't speak or hang with her for several weeks. Took me some time to recover, and then I realized that I actually did like her, and not just for her cheerleader form. Right I see now. Yh I definitely understand you. I can see why you're repulsed from the kiss. But I think, everything that you did was actually kind of normal. It's normal to get into the pants of a really hot girl. I definitely won't blame you for doing this, especially since you didn't do anything significantly bad. But when you manipulated the kiss by saying the right things instead of the natural things. In your head, were you thinking something like "I don't about what this chick is saying, I'm just going to say things to make her feel better so maybe I can get a sympathy kiss". Or were you thinking of something like this "Damn boy, this hot chick is opening up to me, and I do really care about her issues and feelings but I also want a kiss, so I'm going to say things to make her feel better". I think the distinction that I'm trying to draw is. Did you mean the things that you said that lead to the kiss? Or did you ONLY say these things to get a kiss? But hey, even if you did manipulate her at first, it doesn't mean that you can't develop true feelings for her. Which I think, and hope you have, otherwise you wouldn't be making this thread. yogotah said: yeah, dude, you're absolutely correct. I'm definitely will be asking her out. I should just possibly be prepared for the swarm of football players that will try to knock me out..but she is worth a thousand concussions maybe me ranting about the allegory of the cave to them will calm their nerves? Anyway, thanks for the advice mate. This thread was helpful, another thing is that though I live in the States, I'm not a native so sometimes I get confused with the difference in social views and whatnot, so I really wanted to know about this 'league' stuff. Now I know that it's mostly baloney. Yeah bro, glad that you're manning up to your feelings and taking the initiative to ask the girl out. "but she is worth a thousand concussions" bro that's cute :3 And not in a bad way. But yeah, you're welcome, glad I've helped. And I'm glad that you've realized that this "out of your league" stuff is a bunch of baloney. |
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| this term doesnt exist, especially if you have confidence in who you are. |
yogotah said: I'm definitely will be asking her out. I should just possibly be prepared for the swarm of football players that will try to knock me out..but she is worth a thousand concussions Hahaha that's too cute dude. Good Luck! |
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| No. I don't think so. If you have the confidence to talk to that person, then go for it. Looks shouldn't be a priority in a relationship. I mean, look decent but it doesn't mean you have to be a Ryan Gosling (although that would be lovely). ^_^ At the end of the day love and personality wins. |
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Heredity said: angrygirl said: confidence isn't going to get you close to obama's daughters.this term doesnt exist, especially if you have confidence in who you are. Couldn't you find a better example? I'd have problems accepting a mass murderer as my father in law. |
| Proud founder of the 20+ virgins club. Please visit my manga blog for manga updates and more! Mup da doo didda po mo muhfuggen bix nood ^ Need someone who can translate this. Pm me pls. |
| Fuck that "out of your league" shit. OP, take what's yours in the world. Remember, that girl you like belongs to you and you only. If she rejects you, it's her with the problems. You wanna get with top-grade pussy? You gotta work to get there. Good luck brah |
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| No. There's no such thing as social superiority, but it can be possible that a person is not interested in someone else. I suggest you ignore what other people say and ask her out. |
| Yes it clearly is possible for example; super models are in Division 1. Whereas I am trying it with these wannabe instagram models all the way in Division 3 maybe if I get a major financial boost one day I can be in Division 1. |
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| "Leagues" are generally based off of appearance and the OP did say "your league" so no, I'm fucking gorgeous. |
Immahnoob said: They say Jesus walked on water. People are made out of 79% water. I can walk on people. So I am 79% Jesus. Sourire said: I once fucked an apple pie. |
TheArchangles982 said: "Leagues" are generally based off of appearance and the OP did say "your league" so no, I'm fucking gorgeous. Sometimes it's more in terms of how outgoing a person is. If I know someone has met 50 times more people than I, I would really have to be exceptional to leave some kind of an impression on her. Not really sure where to take that kind of confidence from. |
| If you generalize, you're wrong. |
sedmelluq said: TheArchangles982 said: "Leagues" are generally based off of appearance and the OP did say "your league" so no, I'm fucking gorgeous. Sometimes it's more in terms of how outgoing a person is. If I know someone has met 50 times more people than I, I would really have to be exceptional to leave some kind of an impression on her. Not really sure where to take that kind of confidence from. I'm basing it purely off of the appearance factor which is the most commonly used base. What you're basing off of is what I consider the second part; actually getting the guy/girl but whether they're in your league in the first place or not is generally based on appearance. |
Immahnoob said: They say Jesus walked on water. People are made out of 79% water. I can walk on people. So I am 79% Jesus. Sourire said: I once fucked an apple pie. |
| She can't be 'out of your league'. She can be 'not your type' or 'socially incompatible' though. You can always try talking to her, if you haven't before, or try to get to know her more to see if she really is THE one. You could be 'out of HER league' as you guys so eloquently say, considering you watch anime, which automatically makes you superior. Of course, that's assuming this girl doesn't watch anime herself. |
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| I feel like someone "out of your league" is just your mind saying to yourself how you aren't good enough when it's normally not true, or you just say it because you don't want to approach them. All it really comes down to is confidence, like lets say you approach the person who is "out of your league" and are a bit scared to and don't look as if you are confident in yourself, then it might actually come true as first impressions are very hard to change for a majority of people. I feel like it really depends on the people and how much you are willing to do. |
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| I think it's a pretty stupid thing to have. One of my friends recently said to another friend "My girlfriend was saying that if you were better looking, you could go out with her best friend." It just seems cruel to judge people primarily based on things such as appearance, something, which for the most part, is not controllable. |
| Any more updates OP? |
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| You watch anime, right? Have you ever seen Accel World? Yeah. That's how it goes. You can seriously date anybody you want. Nobody is out of your league. You can change someone's perspective of you just by talking to them more and actually becoming their friend. I can tell you that's how I've reversed so many situations in my case. We both agree from the beginning that we're both in the friend zone, but that changes as we talk more and more. I don't consider myself "attractive", but when there's someone I may have interest in, I try anyways. Leagues don't exist. There's only those who will talk to you, and those who are shallow enough to turn you away. EDIT: Just saw your update. Way to go!!!! |
| Just need to find out how to quote this every time so I can dodge the stupid 30-character limit. |
| Everyone is simultaneously out of my league and im out of theirs. |
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| i hope she doesn't betray you like some people i have dated |
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