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Jul 17, 2015 7:53 AM
#8201
Akarin said: Not true at all, plenty of entries don't have "2nd Season" in their Japanese titles, here on MAL, and have it in their main titles. Some just lack it like:Paulo27 said: And I believe that's something that should be rewritten because MAL will prioritize using "2nd Season" over the year, unless it's a remake or alternative version. MAL has never done so, all "2nd season" entries are actually have "2nd season" in Jap. title. http://myanimelist.net/anime/16894/ Some had a 2 added to their Japanese title when they probably shouldn't have: http://myanimelist.net/anime/17727/ In the case of Kuroko no Basket it might because whoever approved that title saw 2nd Season on the official website or whatever and didn't add it to the Japanese title, or simply thought "2nd Season" was a standard for, well, second seasons of previously aired anime. Whoever submitted Haitai Nanafa probably just added a 2 to the Japanese title because it was the second season, and "2nd Season" was added to the main title because it is a second season. Even in the case of Log Horizon it's likely someone added "2nd Season" to the Japanese title because it is a second season so you can't really base yourself on the Japanese titles MAL gives all the time (you just reported a wrong "2nd Season" in the Japanese title, afterall). I personally think using "2nd Season" is fine, rewrite the rule a bit, since it's clearly kinda of a "unspoken rule" already, make things less confusing and move on. |
Jul 17, 2015 7:55 AM
#8202
It just means that these entries need to be fixed as well. AniDB uses the correct titles for both links you stated. |
Jul 17, 2015 7:58 AM
#8203
Just like it uses the correct titles for Fate/Zero, right? AniDB has their own set of rules, I don't see a reason to follow them. |
Jul 17, 2015 8:00 AM
#8204
Paulo27 said: I don't see a reason to follow them. It's much better and less confusing to follow "unspoken rules", isn't it? At least fix the Jap. title for Log Horizon. I don't care about it anymore, I'm switching my list to AniDB. --------- http://myanimelist.net/anime/5238/Chocolate_Underground_the_Movie Main title: "Chocolate Underground: Bokura no Chocolate Sensou" http://myanimelist.net/anime/29718/Kumo_no_Ito_%28Special%29/ Jap: "蜘蛛の糸" Source: http://i.imgur.com/9EVTQK4.png (make it a main pic probably) |
AkarinJul 17, 2015 11:34 AM
Jul 17, 2015 11:48 AM
#8205
Leknaat said: Vivaa, the tags are fine. The whole 4 episodes are about Araragi turning into a vampire. I don't see why it shouldn't have a vampire tag? |
Jul 17, 2015 11:55 AM
#8206
Vivaa said: I don't think just mention of vampires is enough, while it could be the "focus" of the plot here there isn't really much vampirey stuff happening.Leknaat said: Vivaa, the tags are fine. The whole 4 episodes are about Araragi turning into a vampire. I don't see why it shouldn't have a vampire tag? |
Jul 17, 2015 1:20 PM
#8207
Fate/Zero Cafe - add aniDB link http://anidb.net/a9907 |
Jul 17, 2015 5:48 PM
#8208
Hi ! This episode http://myanimelist.net/anime/9839/Detective_Conan:_Black_History_2 isn't really a special, it's simply a remastered version of episodes 309-311 ; there are plenty of remastered episodes (see here http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/Category:Remastered_episode), and they shouldn't qualify as a separate entry. Therefore, I think the entry should be deleted. Or should we add every remastered episode ? Some of them (but not all of them) do contain new scenes, but I'm not sure it counts as a different enough version to earn its own entry. Additionally, the right title for this special http://myanimelist.net/anime/7304/Detective_Conan_Movie_08:_Promo_Special is "Time Travel of the Silver Sky" (銀翼のタイムトラベル), it's similar to the title of Movie 8, "Magician of the Silver Sky". So it should be renamed to "Detective Conan: Time Travel of the Silver Sky", I guess. |
Jul 17, 2015 9:16 PM
#8209
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=30866&show=7200#msg37568871 Jacquelin said: http://myanimelist.net/anime/7021/Ni_Hiki_no_Sanma Needs to be split in two entries, the color version is a complete remake (as opposed to Satsujinkyou Jidai's 2 versions where the international ver. is coloured + edited a bit). It is redrawn, with new sound effects, new music and the scenario abridged a bit. Comparison of the same scene: Original - http://a.pomf.se/dyqnnx.png Remake - http://a.pomf.se/wlmmau.png If you change the entry data to reflect the original version (can leave same title, year should be 1960 or 1961 depending on source, description needs to be changed) I can make a new entry, but since I get stuff denied for adding preemptively you have to do it first. Or if you want to copy paste, the second version is 1968 (so just call it Ni-hiki no Sanma (1968)) and image + description need to change. What's the source on 1968 date? http://myanimelist.net/anime/29701 - add http://anidb.net/a11088 |
SerhiykoJul 17, 2015 9:32 PM
Jul 17, 2015 10:46 PM
#8210
maxdefolsch, umm... > isn't really a special, it's simply a remastered version. That special is a recap special. That's why it's listed in the database. Corrected the title for /7304/. Thank you. |
LeknaatJul 17, 2015 11:20 PM
Jul 17, 2015 11:38 PM
#8211
Paulo27 said: Vivaa said: I don't think just mention of vampires is enough, while it could be the "focus" of the plot here there isn't really much vampirey stuff happening.Leknaat said: Vivaa, the tags are fine. The whole 4 episodes are about Araragi turning into a vampire. I don't see why it shouldn't have a vampire tag? He doesn't appear in mirrors and has increased healing abilities, though as you said there aren't too many vampiery scenes. I still think its quite related enough. His sisters get kidnapped because he's a vampire. Vampire issues - people kidnap your loved ones because they don't like you. |
Jul 18, 2015 4:48 AM
#8212
http://myanimelist.net/anime/24765/Gakkou_Gurashi! Remove Horror |
Jul 18, 2015 5:05 AM
#8213
You watched it? If no then don't make suggessions like that. If yes then I don't see a problem many animes/films/books/everything like that have the horror tag even if its not scary at all. My request http://myanimelist.net/anime/30205/Aoharu_x_Kikanjuu Add shoujo tag or replace shounen with shoujo. Just because it has guns it doesn't make it shounen if the whole setup is shoujo. |
Jul 18, 2015 5:31 AM
#8214
Leknaat > Thanks for the correction ! Leknaat said: maxdefolsch, umm... > isn't really a special, it's simply a remastered version. That special is a recap special. That's why it's listed in the database. What I'm saying is, it's not. It was only a remastered version of three episodes, combined to fit in a one-hour special episode slot, without new content. As I mentioned, there are plenty of remastered episodes, and this one isn't even the only time when three episodes were combined as a one-hour special (see http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/And_Then_There_Were_No_Mermaids#Remastered_version, http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/Reunion_with_the_Black_Organization#Remastered_version, and http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/Shinichi_Kudo%27s_New_York_Case#Remastered_version -- the latter two DO contain an entirely new scene, as you can read). True, this one in particular was aired just before "Clash of Red and Black" (which was a big arc) to help the viewers remember about the main plot, but it still was nothing more than a remastered version of a previously aired episode (as opposed to http://myanimelist.net/anime/7303/Detective_Conan:_Black_History, which was a true recap, an edited version of multiple scenes from plot-relevant episodes with Conan narrating the main plot). If you count it as a "recap special", why not count the three other remastered one-hour specials I mentioned, or even all the remastered episodes ? Thanks in advance, and sorry for insisting that way ! |
Jul 18, 2015 5:34 AM
#8215
Delenai said: You watched it? If no then don't make suggessions like that. If yes then I don't see a problem many animes/films/books/everything like that have the horror tag even if its not scary at all. My request http://myanimelist.net/anime/30205/Aoharu_x_Kikanjuu Add shoujo tag or replace shounen with shoujo. Just because it has guns it doesn't make it shounen if the whole setup is shoujo. Yeah I wathched it then what is the point of horror genre? there's no need for horror genre same thing goes for Ranpo Kitan which I requested removal of horror genre too. It was just an anime about detectives. |
Jul 18, 2015 5:47 AM
#8216
Cnon said: Zombies, yes thats all. You was right to say remove horror from Ranpo Kitan, but I think it needs thriller tag.Yeah I wathched it then what is the point of horror genre? there's no need for horror genre same thing goes for Ranpo Kitan which I requested removal of horror genre too. It was just an anime about detectives. |
Jul 18, 2015 6:03 AM
#8217
Delenai said: Cnon said: Zombies, yes thats all. You was right to say remove horror from Ranpo Kitan, but I think it needs thriller tag.Yeah I wathched it then what is the point of horror genre? there's no need for horror genre same thing goes for Ranpo Kitan which I requested removal of horror genre too. It was just an anime about detectives. but there were no zombies in gakkou gurashi am I right? |
Jul 18, 2015 6:05 AM
#8218
Cnon said: There were... so you watched it or not?but there were no zombies in gakkou gurashi am I right? |
Jul 18, 2015 6:31 AM
#8219
Delenai said: The manga is published in GFantasy, a shounen magazine.My request http://myanimelist.net/anime/30205/Aoharu_x_Kikanjuu Add shoujo tag or replace shounen with shoujo. Just because it has guns it doesn't make it shounen if the whole setup is shoujo. |
Jul 18, 2015 6:34 AM
#8220
maxdefolsch said: Recaps don't usually have new content, that's why they are recaps, it's not like they were only reaired, they were put together into a hour long special. Leknaat > Thanks for the correction ! Leknaat said: maxdefolsch, umm... > isn't really a special, it's simply a remastered version. That special is a recap special. That's why it's listed in the database. What I'm saying is, it's not. It was only a remastered version of three episodes, combined to fit in a one-hour special episode slot, without new content. As I mentioned, there are plenty of remastered episodes, and this one isn't even the only time when three episodes were combined as a one-hour special (see http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/And_Then_There_Were_No_Mermaids#Remastered_version, http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/Reunion_with_the_Black_Organization#Remastered_version, and http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/Shinichi_Kudo%27s_New_York_Case#Remastered_version -- the latter two DO contain an entirely new scene, as you can read). True, this one in particular was aired just before "Clash of Red and Black" (which was a big arc) to help the viewers remember about the main plot, but it still was nothing more than a remastered version of a previously aired episode (as opposed to http://myanimelist.net/anime/7303/Detective_Conan:_Black_History, which was a true recap, an edited version of multiple scenes from plot-relevant episodes with Conan narrating the main plot). If you count it as a "recap special", why not count the three other remastered one-hour specials I mentioned, or even all the remastered episodes ? Thanks in advance, and sorry for insisting that way ! If you think those specials should also be added because that other one was, then you can submit them too. Horror is fine. Should remove Mystery and add Psychological and Thriller because of the delusional main character and the suspense generated with the zombies. |
Jul 18, 2015 6:51 AM
#8221
belatkuro said: Just because it published in a shounen mag. it doesnt mean its a shounen. It has shounen elements yes, but it has more shoujo elements. At least when I was little boy I didn't really liked animes that shown from the girls perspective, full of bishounens, have moments that make the girl blushing every 3 min, and have shounen ai as well. But who knows kids nowdays...Delenai said: The manga is published in GFantasy, a shounen magazine.My request http://myanimelist.net/anime/30205/Aoharu_x_Kikanjuu Add shoujo tag or replace shounen with shoujo. Just because it has guns it doesn't make it shounen if the whole setup is shoujo. |
Jul 18, 2015 6:51 AM
#8222
Jul 18, 2015 6:56 AM
#8223
Cnon said: They are clearly there in the second episode...Delenai said: Cnon said: but there were no zombies in gakkou gurashi am I right? I watched it I haven't seen any though |
Jul 18, 2015 7:41 AM
#8224
Paulo27 said: Cnon said: They are clearly there in the second episode...Delenai said: Cnon said: There were... so you watched it or not?but there were no zombies in gakkou gurashi am I right? I watched it I haven't seen any though So that's why I haven't seen them I dropped it first episode. I can't stand school anime |
Jul 18, 2015 9:29 AM
#8225
The following could use mystery tags: http://myanimelist.net/anime/324/Mobile_Police_Patlabor http://myanimelist.net/anime/1288/Mobile_Police_Patlabor:_Early_Days http://myanimelist.net/anime/1095/Mobile_Police_Patlabor:_The_Movie http://myanimelist.net/anime/1290/Mobile_Police_Patlabor:_WXIII http://myanimelist.net/anime/1289/Mobile_Police_Patlabor:_The_New_Files http://myanimelist.net/anime/95/Turn_A_Gundam All major incarnations of Patlabor deal with detective work and have mystery based plots (plus the second movie has a mystery tag too). Turn A is more subtle in its mysteries, but a good portion of the setting does revolve around solving the ancient past so I think it might work. |
Jul 18, 2015 12:19 PM
#8226
Paulo27 said: I aggree with remove mystery, but don't need to add psyhological. That tag doesn't stands for fuck your mind (thriller,horror, dementia is for this). It need to be used when the characters make serious mind fights, clash of strategies and so on. If it fuck your mind then its just a bonus. Guess in which case its not used in reality...Horror is fine. Should remove Mystery and add Psychological and Thriller because of the delusional main character and the suspense generated with the zombies. And add thriller is not really necessary since it has horror already. |
Jul 18, 2015 12:32 PM
#8227
AkarinJul 18, 2015 11:30 PM
Jul 18, 2015 11:37 PM
#8228
If you are not willing to add ecchi to Seitokai Yakuindomo then remove it from this aswell http://myanimelist.net/anime/29786/Shimoneta_to_Iu_Gainen_ga_Sonzai_Shinai_Taikutsu_na_Sekai |
Jul 18, 2015 11:54 PM
#8229
Delenai said: Ecchi - Anime that contain a lot of sexual innuendo. The translation of this letter (Ecchi is the letter 'H' in Japanese) is pervert. Ecchi is about panties (pantsu) and bra/breast showing, situations with "sudden nudity" and of course, subtle hints or sexual thoughts. Ecchi does not describe actual sex acts or show any intimate body parts except for bare breasts and buttocks. Ecchi is almost always used for humor. If you are not willing to add ecchi to Seitokai Yakuindomo then remove it from this aswell http://myanimelist.net/anime/29786/Shimoneta_to_Iu_Gainen_ga_Sonzai_Shinai_Taikutsu_na_Sekai basically it follows the template of ecchi |
Jul 18, 2015 11:57 PM
#8230
Harem_King said: and Seitokai Yakuindomo not? Also show me sudden nudity in Shimoetabasically it follows the template of ecchi |
DelenaiJul 19, 2015 12:01 AM
Jul 19, 2015 12:03 AM
#8231
Delenai said: u may be right about the sudden nudity thing Harem_King said: and Seitokai Yakuindomo not? Also show me sudden nudity in Shimoetabasically it follows the template of ecchi but there are way to many examples of imply sexual behaviors....im not a mod here but im just letting u know it wont get the ecchi tag removed |
Jul 19, 2015 12:05 AM
#8232
Harem_King said: just like in Seitokai Yakuindomo but mods not willing to add ecchi there, this is the same but it has it. And I said both of or neighter of it should have it. It don't work out other way.Delenai said: u may be right about the sudden nudity thing Harem_King said: basically it follows the template of ecchi but there are way to many examples of imply sexual behaviors....im not a mod here but im just letting u know it wont get the ecchi tag removed |
Jul 19, 2015 12:08 AM
#8233
Delenai said: i havent watched Seitokai Yakuindomo but a quick tumblr search for gifs will show u a big difference on which anime deserves the ecchi tagsHarem_King said: just like in Seitokai Yakuindomo but mods not willing to add ecchi there, this is the same but it has it. And I said both of or neighter of it should have it. It don't work out other way.Delenai said: Harem_King said: and Seitokai Yakuindomo not? Also show me sudden nudity in Shimoetabasically it follows the template of ecchi but there are way to many examples of imply sexual behaviors....im not a mod here but im just letting u know it wont get the ecchi tag removed searching for Seitokai Yakuindomo gives me good sex jokes but searching for Shimoeta shows me a bunch of lewdness what im implying is Shimoeta is a bit more lewder specially with the "hand gestures" and "touching themselves" |
Jul 19, 2015 12:16 AM
#8234
Harem_King said: I see your point]i havent watched Seitokai Yakuindomo but a quick tumblr search for gifs will show u a big difference on which anime deserves the ecchi tags searching for Seitokai Yakuindomo gives me good sex jokes but searching for Shimoeta shows me a bunch of lewdness what im implying is Shimoeta is a bit more lewder specially with the "hand gestures" and "touching themselves" the only thing that different is the art style (and that in Shimoeta they can't even make jokes just say d*ck everytime) and again if you didn't see it why are you argue? |
Jul 19, 2015 12:18 AM
#8235
Delenai said: i was argueing more so for Shimoeta to keep an ecchi tag Harem_King said: I see your point]i havent watched Seitokai Yakuindomo but a quick tumblr search for gifs will show u a big difference on which anime deserves the ecchi tags searching for Seitokai Yakuindomo gives me good sex jokes but searching for Shimoeta shows me a bunch of lewdness what im implying is Shimoeta is a bit more lewder specially with the "hand gestures" and "touching themselves" the only thing that different is the art style (and that in Shimoeta they can't even make jokes just say d*ck everytime) and again if you didn't see it why are you argue? but hey as i said im not a mod so we will see their decision |
Jul 19, 2015 12:23 AM
#8236
Harem_King said: you know the problem with this is that if they don't remove it just show how ignorant they are, because they rejected to add ecchi to Seitokai because it don't have nudity, what Shimoeta lack too.i was argueing more so for Shimoeta to keep an ecchi tag but hey as i said im not a mod so we will see their decision |
Jul 19, 2015 7:18 AM
#8237
AkarinJul 19, 2015 3:41 PM
Jul 19, 2015 7:49 AM
#8238
http://myanimelist.net/anime/28387/Joukamachi_no_Dandelion replace the action genre with super power—action isn't the focus of the show, how they make use of their powers is |
Jul 19, 2015 7:27 PM
#8239
If the upcoming Yu-Gi-Oh! movie has two ☆ in the title so should every other series/special in the franchise, both anime and manga. Otherwise it's inconsistent in the DB. http://myanimelist.net/anime.php?q=yu-gi-oh http://myanimelist.net/manga.php?q=yu-gi-oh Also please add "Yu-Gi-Oh!: The Dark Side of Dimensions" and "Yugioh" as synonyms since right now you can only search for it by the movie's title. http://myanimelist.net/anime/482/Yu-Gi-Oh!_Duel_Monsters_GX official site; http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/yugioh2004/ http://myanimelist.net/anime/3972/Yu-Gi-Oh!_5Ds official site; http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/yugioh/ |
MonochromeJul 19, 2015 8:07 PM
Jul 20, 2015 2:44 AM
#8240
Paulo27 said: Edits for the Pokémon entries. Couple notes before all this: Some entries have Kids, some entries have Shounen (it's the same as the things above, I'm not sure if they can be together or not), I say you pick one and after applying the changes I requested go through all the Pokemon entries and apply either Kids or Shounen or as you see fit (since some entries could be considered more Kids than Shounen), I'll point out the ones that have both otherwise it doesn't really matter to me which one you pick for each entry. A while ago Paulo made this statement above and the changes were made. Was wondering if you could do the same for the Digimon series. All these entries have a Kids and a Shounen tag. http://myanimelist.net/anime/552/Digimon_Adventure http://myanimelist.net/anime/1313/Digimon_Adventure_02 http://myanimelist.net/anime/2962/Digimon_Adventure_02_Movie http://myanimelist.net/anime/2961/Digimon_Adventure_Movie http://myanimelist.net/anime/1132/Digimon_Frontier http://myanimelist.net/anime/8624/Digimon_Xros_Wars http://myanimelist.net/anime/10444/Digimon_Xros_Wars:_Aku_no_Death_General_to_Nanatsu_no_Oukoku http://myanimelist.net/anime/11385/Digimon_Xros_Wars:_Toki_wo_Kakeru_Shounen_Hunter-tachi Also add action to http://myanimelist.net/anime/2961/Digimon_Adventure_Movie |
VivaaJul 20, 2015 2:52 AM
Jul 20, 2015 6:20 AM
#8241
http://myanimelist.net/anime/9542/Puttsun_Make_Love Add Shounen. Manga was published in Shounen Jump. I made the same request in manga thread. Also add ecchi. |
Jul 20, 2015 7:30 AM
#8242
Akarin, done. Not sure about the Arakawa though. The current title is what it was officially aired under. I mean, that's how the title(logo) you've requested is spelled. http://www.starchild.co.jp/special/arakawa_ub/onair/ http://www.b-ch.com/ttl/index.php?ttl_c=2806 http://tinyurl.com/o7poqad I'll leave it as is for now. DuelGundam2099, Police is sufficient. Delenai, the series has started airing just recently. I won't be removing the tag yet. Monochrome, corrected the anime side. Vivaa, done. |
LeknaatJul 20, 2015 7:47 AM
Jul 20, 2015 7:49 AM
#8243
Leknaat, If you prioritize the spelling over the writing, then okay. But judging from my previous experience on adding manga entries, the writing is more important. For example: http://myanimelist.net/manga/89304/Unyo%C2%B2_Gokkun I added this entry as "Unyo Unyo". |
Jul 20, 2015 8:04 AM
#8244
Leknaat, what about the other 2? http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=30866&show=8550#msg40931809 and http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=30866&show=8550#msg40931481 |
Jul 20, 2015 8:09 AM
#8245
Akarin, Some obscure hentai manga? We don't really have much reliable references (title wise) for it beside the cover itself. I don't see a problem here http://www.suruga-ya.jp/kaitori_detail/XA81 Delenai, Ranpo is still airing, so we'll wait until it's finished. Aoharu x Kikanjuu was already explained to you by belatkuro |
LeknaatJul 20, 2015 8:14 AM
Jul 20, 2015 8:15 AM
#8246
Leknaat, sure, but why do you prioritize the title from the official website over the title from video? I posted a screenshot from anime before. Aikatsu also has a title "Aikatsu! Akari Generation" on Amazon and official website, but you told me the other day that the title in video is more important, hence no separate entries. Bridge*2 not only means "Bridge x Bridge" but it also means a "2nd season". |
Jul 20, 2015 8:28 AM
#8247
A problem with logo in anime episodes is that they aren't necessarily the "official" title, they are just logos, that's why you see stuff like Teekyuu without a season number in the anime but it has one on DVDs and official websites, same issue with Aikatsu, but the staff is just being stubborn in that case. There's always the problem that the title in official websites might change overtime and conflict with whatever is on the anime or even DVDs. This ends up being an even bigger issue for older anime that had their titles added as they aired or back when their websites were still up and are now seeing title changes. Just another case where the guidelines need to be more strict. |
Jul 20, 2015 8:33 AM
#8248
Paulo27, the logo is the same as an official title, it's just beautifully arranged. The problem is the official site can be gone in 1, 5, 10... years, but the video will remain forever, so in long-term means the title from video is more important. |
Jul 20, 2015 8:36 AM
#8249
Akarin, A slight misunderstanding, probably? Just like with the logo for "ai mai mii" you have to compare the title on screen to the Japanese title provided by the creators on the official website, etc. And follow its spelling if it's indeed intended way of spelling the title by the creators. Most of the time there is no differences between them, though. Although Aikatsu is also slightly related to this issue it's still a different case. I'm quite confident that the entry for second season of Arakawa was added under the correct title. The change is unnecessary. Try to dig up some other similar "inconsistencies"? Maybe we'll find something interesting. |
LeknaatJul 20, 2015 8:42 AM
Jul 20, 2015 8:55 AM
#8250
Akarin said: Perhaps in this case, but I'm talking in general, this is even more of a problem with second seasons, when the creators advertise an anime as a 2nd season and later, when it ends, put the whole series under the same title causing inconsistencies between the now and then, and even when these 2nd seasons are mentioned and advertise you'll rarely see them in logos in the anime itself yet it may still be present on outside logos.Paulo27, the logo is the same as an official title, it's just beautifully arranged. The problem is the official site can be gone in 1, 5, 10... years, but the video will remain forever, so in long-term means the title from video is more important. There should be a priority list that'd help avoid most of these problems, something like the official website when the anime first aired, if avaialable, comes first, then DVDs, then in-anime logos, etc. |
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