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Apr 28, 2015 8:35 AM

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I really like how the anime portrays the appearance of Shirou in the latest episode. We never got to see what Shirou's expression was in the VN, but the anime shows how he mostly always looks apathetic. Even during Rin-sama embarrassed and angry he just stands there with a poker face casually saying "I know that Tohsaka is hard to deal with".
Apr 28, 2015 8:36 AM

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YggdrasilTM said:
Yeah, no.
THERE ARE scene in which Shirou mess with her, but to see that 2 scene as such means that you just don't understand the text, plain and simple.


Except in both cases there is text to refute that, but I'm not going to argue this interpret it how you want.



Plus after this on the roof. "You're not you unless you're like this"

Honestly it's painfully obvious what Shirou's goal was.
Apr 28, 2015 8:40 AM

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the anime shows

Yes, well...
Apr 28, 2015 8:41 AM
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Come on, Shirou there is just a big goof. He thought that Tohsaka was strange, and his big "deduction" is just "she is embarrassed because she forgot her money lunch and now she has to ask me money".
Apr 28, 2015 8:41 AM

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Insertanamehere said:
Grey-Zone said:
the anime shows

Yes, well...


Uh yeah....
Apr 28, 2015 8:47 AM

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YggdrasilTM said:
Come on, Shirou there is just a big goof. He thought that Tohsaka was strange, and his big "deduction" is just "she is embarrassed because she forgot her money lunch and now she has to ask me money".


Funny in the anime she has lunch in her hand. I guess he's king stupid there.

And since she does have a lunch in the VN and they go straight to the roof I think it's safe to assume she was carrying it in the VN too.

Unless he's now blind and stupid during this scene.


Girl wants to talk to me during lunch period... come on. It's obvious he knew.
nocorrasApr 28, 2015 8:50 AM
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nocorras said:
YggdrasilTM said:
Come on, Shirou there is just a big goof. He thought that Tohsaka was strange, and his big "deduction" is just "she is embarrassed because she forgot her money lunch and now she has to ask me money".


Funny in the anime she has lunch in her hand. I guess he's king stupid there.

And since she does have a lunch in the VN and they go straight to the roof I think it's safe to assume she was carrying it in the VN too.

Unless he's now blind and stupid during this scene.


Girl wants to talk to me during lunch period... come on. It's obvious he knew.
Shirou? Do you remember the exchange with Sakura about eating in the dojo? That guy is denser than lead.
Also
"So? If it's not lunch money, what is it?"
"Uh… Y-You're having lunch now, right? Do you want to come with me? I know a better place than the student council room."
…Oh.
She just wants to talk to me because she wants to have a strategic meeting."

Yeah, sure. He really knows.
Apr 28, 2015 8:57 AM

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YggdrasilTM said:
nocorras said:


Funny in the anime she has lunch in her hand. I guess he's king stupid there.

And since she does have a lunch in the VN and they go straight to the roof I think it's safe to assume she was carrying it in the VN too.

Unless he's now blind and stupid during this scene.


Girl wants to talk to me during lunch period... come on. It's obvious he knew.
Shirou? Do you remember the exchange with Sakura about eating in the dojo? That guy is denser than lead.
Also
"So? If it's not lunch money, what is it?"
"Uh… Y-You're having lunch now, right? Do you want to come with me? I know a better place than the student council room."
…Oh.
She just wants to talk to me because she wants to have a strategic meeting."

Yeah, sure. He really knows.


Sakura thing was completely different situation. Keep believing what you want.

None of what you posted contradicts that he knew and there is text that says he does know.

Again, this picture makes it painfully obvious he knew and was messing with her to break the facade and to make her act like herself.

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nocorras said:
None of what you posted contradicts that he knew and there is text that says he does know.


"Oh, okay. Then you can continue with your walk.
I'm going to go eat in the student council room."
I wave her goodbye and turn around.
"Hold on! you are doing this on purpose, right?"
"?"

Emphasis mine on "?"
Apr 28, 2015 9:01 AM

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Apr 28, 2015 9:05 AM
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nocorras said:

Could it be...?
"Did you forget your lunch money? I can't give you my lunch, but I can lend you some money."

He knows that she wants to talk to him, he does not know WHY she is behaving this way. he came out, and he came to the conclusion that that the reason is to ask money.
That, by the way is THE SAME reaction of Issei before the stripping. This is just a running gag! Do you think that Issei was "messing with him trying to break the facade"?

For God's sake, sometime a cigar is just a cigar. If Shirou made a WRONG observation, the sempliest explanation is that HE MADE A WRONG OBSERVATION.
Apr 28, 2015 9:06 AM

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Yes, she has lunch in her hand, she must want lunch money. Interpret it how you want I'm not going to bother.

Lol at using another character to try and prove your point. 5 min before l unch ends. Please don't ask me for money. Please stop LOL. It's obvious what was meant in this case too if you're talking about this.
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Grey-Zone said:
We never got to see what Shirou's expression was in the VN


lparchive said:
"Oh, you're done? I'm in no hurry, so finish it off. It's good to let out everything you have."
"---------------------------"
"---------------------------"
I cough and glare back at Lancer.

. . .


"I do believe so. Your commander-in-chief is a good frank woman. Such a good woman is helping you out, so you must be good-natured as well, right?"
"Hm"
I frown.
…I'm troubled that Tohsaka is nodding at our enemy's words.

. . .

Lancer makes a sympathetic gesture.
"……Well. I already know Tohsaka's troublesome."
I dismiss his sympathy with a sour look.


Come again?

Those are just few examples where he clearly states his expression. Besides, you have VA speaking those lines. You can imagine Shirou's expression from his voice and how he behaved during the story.
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If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you?

Not air.
Apr 28, 2015 9:20 AM

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Aurioch said:
Grey-Zone said:
We never got to see what Shirou's expression was in the VN


lparchive said:
"Oh, you're done? I'm in no hurry, so finish it off. It's good to let out everything you have."
"---------------------------"
"---------------------------"
I cough and glare back at Lancer.

. . .


"I do believe so. Your commander-in-chief is a good frank woman. Such a good woman is helping you out, so you must be good-natured as well, right?"
"Hm"
I frown.
…I'm troubled that Tohsaka is nodding at our enemy's words.

. . .

Lancer makes a sympathetic gesture.
"……Well. I already know Tohsaka's troublesome."
I dismiss his sympathy with a sour look.


Come again?

Those are just few examples where he clearly states his expression. Besides, you have VA speaking those lines. You can imagine Shirou's expression from his voice and how he behaved during the story.


Dat Shirou PTSD expression though, good addition by Ufo
Apr 28, 2015 10:02 AM

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Aurioch said:
Grey-Zone said:
We never got to see what Shirou's expression was in the VN


lparchive said:
"Oh, you're done? I'm in no hurry, so finish it off. It's good to let out everything you have."
"---------------------------"
"---------------------------"
I cough and glare back at Lancer.

. . .


"I do believe so. Your commander-in-chief is a good frank woman. Such a good woman is helping you out, so you must be good-natured as well, right?"
"Hm"
I frown.
…I'm troubled that Tohsaka is nodding at our enemy's words.

. . .

Lancer makes a sympathetic gesture.
"……Well. I already know Tohsaka's troublesome."
I dismiss his sympathy with a sour look.


Come again?

Those are just few examples where he clearly states his expression. Besides, you have VA speaking those lines. You can imagine Shirou's expression from his voice and how he behaved during the story.


It's still different. For others we get Shirou's desrcription as well as a visual representation in the VN, however a visual representation is lacking for Shirou himself (aside from very few CGs showing it).
Apr 28, 2015 10:07 AM

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I actually thought the entire time he was stoic with the burial of illya and that he only go THAT kind of face when he called her out on it. I didn't expect him to go PTSD from illyas death mostly because the tragedy should have been a lot worse to him, not to mention the school portion.

As for Lancer and Shirou, favourite scene that episode. Loved it when he just looks at Tohsaka and is like "Yup...trouble."
Apr 30, 2015 9:24 AM

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I just realised Gil hasn't said mongrel once this entire anime.

Feels so weird.
Apr 30, 2015 9:42 AM

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DamnThatsTheSpot said:
I just realised Gil hasn't said mongrel once this entire anime.

Feels so weird.


Hasn't had a lot of screen time. H e says it when he skewers Archer and in the final fight I'm pretty sure he says it.
Apr 30, 2015 9:44 AM

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nocorras said:
DamnThatsTheSpot said:
I just realised Gil hasn't said mongrel once this entire anime.

Feels so weird.


Hasn't had a lot of screen time. H e says it when he skewers Archer and in the final fight I'm pretty sure he says it.
LOL he most certainly says it in the last fight. he hasnt even gotten to his "lolfeika" bit yet. as well as my jacket is about to get dirty, you've escaped death this time
Apr 30, 2015 9:47 AM

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I can't check right now but i'm pretty sure he at least originally called Shirou that when he tried to interrupt his heart surgery.
Apr 30, 2015 9:51 AM

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Ah yeah he does say it to Shirou:

"Watch what you say. No one gives orders to a king, you lowlife!!"
He shoots off one of his numerous Noble Phantasms at me.

RN changes it to mongrel(or corrects it to mongrel).
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nocorras said:
Ah yeah he does say it to Shirou:

"Watch what you say. No one gives orders to a king, you lowlife!!"
He shoots off one of his numerous Noble Phantasms at me.

RN changes it to mongrel(or corrects it to mongrel).


Great job ufo.Just one of many things you fucked up inthis episode.
May 1, 2015 5:38 AM

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Heaven's Feel manga RAWs have been released. It even has Shirou's ufojacket.
May 1, 2015 6:20 AM

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Grey-Zone said:
Heaven's Feel manga RAWs have been released. It even has Shirou's ufojacket.


This is a thing? i remember UBW apparently had a manga...it side tracked half way through...
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Grey-Zone said:
Heaven's Feel manga RAWs have been released. It even has Shirou's ufojacket.


This is a thing? i remember UBW apparently had a manga...it side tracked half way through...


Yeah it's a thing. Looks a bit funky though I doubt I'll be a fan.
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TheUnknownMerc said:
Grey-Zone said:
Heaven's Feel manga RAWs have been released. It even has Shirou's ufojacket.


This is a thing? i remember UBW apparently had a manga...it side tracked half way through...


Meh dont expect it to be better than the previous horrible fsn manga.

Harry-Potter-Shinji is the highlight, but otherwise if I were to read, reading the VN makes more sense than a manga. And it is bound to be inconsistent just like manga "adaptations" usually happen to be.
May 1, 2015 6:55 AM

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Insofar as I can tell with not being able to actually understand what is being said, it's not too bad so far. Better than the previous manga, for sure.
May 1, 2015 10:09 AM

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Isn't there like, only 10% of UBW left to cover? I think a Shirou episode is plausible (though an Archer episode is more likely, if only because I don't think Miura is even aware of what he's done to Shirou's character). What would they do with all of the extra time if not anime-original flashbacks (which already happened for Caster and Illya)..?
May 1, 2015 10:10 AM

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I will post what Auriorch posted in ep thread

Lancer flashback.
Archer flashback.
Rin flashback.
Maybe Assassin flashback if we see him again.
Maybe even Saber flashback.
Or chair flashback.

Shinji flashback
Ayako flashback
May 1, 2015 10:16 AM

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chat77 said:
I will post what Auriorch posted in ep thread

Lancer flashback.
Archer flashback.
Rin flashback.
Maybe Assassin flashback if we see him again.
Maybe even Saber flashback.
Or chair flashback.

Shinji flashback
Ayako flashback


Now that I think about it, Saber's scene at the end of UBW will be implausible without knowledge of her backstory (or from Fate/Zero I guess). They gotta do something about that.
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Caliburn220 said:
chat77 said:
I will post what Auriorch posted in ep thread

Lancer flashback.
Archer flashback.
Rin flashback.
Maybe Assassin flashback if we see him again.
Maybe even Saber flashback.
Or chair flashback.

Shinji flashback
Ayako flashback


Now that I think about it, Saber's scene at the end of UBW will be implausible without knowledge of her backstory (or from Fate/Zero I guess). They gotta do something about that.


They just aren't going to include it most likely. Idk what they're going to do about her watching Answer though.
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nocorras said:
Caliburn220 said:


Now that I think about it, Saber's scene at the end of UBW will be implausible without knowledge of her backstory (or from Fate/Zero I guess). They gotta do something about that.


They just aren't going to include it most likely. Idk what they're going to do about her watching Answer though.

Same as they did with Archer's monologue of ideals - stare without reaction. Looking Gpod as intended.
May 1, 2015 10:25 AM

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You guys forgot Gilgamesh flashback.

Also Rider flashback, because why not.
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May 1, 2015 10:33 AM

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CookingPriest said:
nocorras said:


They just aren't going to include it most likely. Idk what they're going to do about her watching Answer though.

Same as they did with Archer's monologue of ideals - stare without reaction. Looking Gpod as intended.


I forgot about that.

Damn Ufotable.
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You guys forgot Gilgamesh flashback.

Also Rider flashback, because why not.

And by that we mean FZ Rider, of course.
May 1, 2015 10:46 AM

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"Conquest brah!"- flashback over

We now return to Saber and Rin rolling on futons.
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DamnThatsTheSpot said:
"Conquest brah!"- flashback over

We now return to Saber and Rin rolling on futons.


Why not have a Waver flashback then?
May 1, 2015 10:50 AM

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An entire episode of Archer walking down the Einzbern stairs,as he talks with Saber and occasionally starts ranting.
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An entire episode of Archer walking down the Einzbern stairs,as he talks with Saber and occasionally starts ranting.


A LE ending seems more appropriate.....:P
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I'm being semi-serious actually,before his fight with Shirou he starts walking down the stairs in the castle as he reveals his situation and reasons and at last breaks down and goes "This ISN"T THE HERO I WANTED TO BECOME" and that scene is literally >30 minutes.

If they rush it i'm gonna be salty
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I think there's more chance that twin swords Archer projects will suddenly become alive, kill everyone present and proceed to win the Grail War.
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If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you?

Not air.
May 1, 2015 10:57 AM

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Or Saber might suddenly pull off her lance from out of nowhere and then go and kill Gil while he uses EA because why not?
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DamnThatsTheSpot said:
I'm being semi-serious actually,before his fight with Shirou he starts walking down the stairs in the castle as he reveals his situation and reasons and at last breaks down and goes "This ISN"T THE HERO I WANTED TO BECOME" and that scene is literally >30 minutes.

If they rush it i'm gonna be salty


Of course it's going to be rushed lol. Have to get to the 'fight'
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nocorras said:
DamnThatsTheSpot said:
I'm being semi-serious actually,before his fight with Shirou he starts walking down the stairs in the castle as he reveals his situation and reasons and at last breaks down and goes "This ISN"T THE HERO I WANTED TO BECOME" and that scene is literally >30 minutes.

If they rush it i'm gonna be salty


Of course it's going to be rushed lol. Have to get to the 'fight'


Actually it is very likely acha's monologue wont be rushed. Everything else will be.

Mot likely we iwll get a flashback for him during that monologue too.
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HungryPriest said:
You guys forgot Gilgamesh flashback


They should animate the Gil flashback they skipped in Zero.
May 1, 2015 2:06 PM

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So, a new poster is out:


New screenshots from the next episode:


Seems like Archer will get rekt, faithful to the VN:


What do you guys think?
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astroprogs said:
So, the new poster is out:


New screenshots from the next episode:
[spoiler][spoiler]
Seems like Archer will get rekt, faithfully to the VN:
[spoiler][spoiler]
[spoiler][spoiler]

What do you guys think?


Old news. These have been there since Saturday.
The sun is a deadly laser
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Old news. These have been there since Saturday.

Ah, i didn't know that.
Well, they're there for those who didn't see them before.
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astroprogs said:

Seems like Archer will get rekt, faithful to the VN:



What do you guys think?


If that's all the damage there is, people including me will be super pissed.
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