judals said: D0FLAMINGO said: judals said: I'll comment on the fullbring arc thing, it wasn't good, but not as bad as Fishman Island. You just lost whatever credibility you had with that statement. Fishman Island did what it attempted to do far better than what Fullbring arc attempted to do. No. That's just some elitist statement because people like to hate on bleach/naruto to validate their unconditional love for one piece. dude you barely seen a few shows you have no idea what you're talking about |
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renders said: judals said: D0FLAMINGO said: judals said: I'll comment on the fullbring arc thing, it wasn't good, but not as bad as Fishman Island. You just lost whatever credibility you had with that statement. Fishman Island did what it attempted to do far better than what Fullbring arc attempted to do. No. That's just some elitist statement because people like to hate on bleach/naruto to validate their unconditional love for one piece. dude you barely seen a few shows you have no idea what you're talking about What? That I think FB is not as bad as FI? What does that even got to do with it? What does "FI did what it attempted to do" even mean? What did it aim for? Being bad? |
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judals said: What? That I think FB is not as bad as FI? What does that even got to do with it? What does "FI did what it attempted to do" even mean? What did it aim for? Being bad? |
D0FLAMINGO said: judals said: What? That I think FB is not as bad as FI? What does that even got to do with it? What does "FI did what it attempted to do" even mean? What did it aim for? Being bad? So in order for an arc to be good, it just has to make a bucket list? Irrational racial hatred? We don't know that before? Is this some deep message? Note to self: Any writer who says "[something] is bad, mm'kay" is a good one, and that is deep story-telling. Do I need to remind you of how this whole issue was triggered for the SH? Answer: Fanservice nosebleeds for one third of the arc. Introducing yonko/weapons; how does that redeem the arc? Were they in this arc? No. They were just hyped for the future as an excuse for the quality of the current arc. Tiger flashback, which was quite generic and nothing well-done. An arc's main aim is to be good, itself. |
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judals said: D0FLAMINGO said: judals said: What? That I think FB is not as bad as FI? What does that even got to do with it? What does "FI did what it attempted to do" even mean? What did it aim for? Being bad? So in order for an arc to be good, it just has to make a bucket list? Irrational racial hatred? We don't know that before? Is this some deep message? Note to self: Any writer who says "[something] is bad, mm'kay" is a good one, and that is deep story-telling. Do I need to remind you of how this whole issue was triggered for the SH? Answer: Fanservice nosebleeds for one third of the arc. Introducing yonko/weapons; how does that redeem the arc? Were they in this arc? No. They were just hyped for the future as an excuse for the quality of the current arc. Tiger flashback, which was quite generic and nothing well-done. An arc's main aim is to be good, itself. |
SuperRedFeb 26, 2014 5:50 AM
It was the Oda's first and most serious attempt to introduce and write about a real life social issue then he did a terrible job at it. He also tried to do it with drugs, twice and also failed. Same with the half-made slavery theme. Moral of the story: Adding a theme doesn't make it any better. Not that i was't acknowledging the existence of it, I said "the arc was bad" which included the story and its subplots and whatever messages it tried to convey for the most part, whether they tried to reflect what happens in the real world or are completely based on fiction. |
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judals said: It was the Oda's first and most serious attempt to introduce and write about a real life social issue then he did a terrible job at it. He also tried to do it with drugs, twice and also failed. Same with the half-made slavery theme. How? |
| Isn't judals the guy who said he couldn't bear to watch FI arc and just read the wikia? Or I mistake him for someone else since they are really similar... |
wanderingplayboy said: Isn't judals the guy who said he couldn't bear to watch FI arc and just read the wikia? Or I mistake him for someone else since they are really similar... If you're referring to my argument with Jals9(name?) I was the one who said it shouldn't be done. Not that I make a fuss when people do it though. D0FLAMINGO said: judals said: It was the Oda's first and most serious attempt to introduce and write about a real life social issue then he did a terrible job at it. He also tried to do it with drugs, twice and also failed. Same with the half-made slavery theme. How? How not? |
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wanderingplayboy said: Isn't judals the guy who said he couldn't bear to watch FI arc and just read the wikia? Or I mistake him for someone else since they are really similar... I don't know if he did, but CeeTwo did something similar, I have no idea why he never online since then though, I enjoyed his jokes. |
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| The way I see it, FI isn't as bad as most people say it is but the reason why it doesn't feel as "good" as most of the other arcs is because its a step-down from the shit that happened just before the timeskip. It's the same for the FB arc, which also happened just after a timeskip so the "scale" in both decreased. judals said: D0FLAMINGO said: judals said: What? That I think FB is not as bad as FI? What does that even got to do with it? What does "FI did what it attempted to do" even mean? What did it aim for? Being bad? So in order for an arc to be good, it just has to make a bucket list? Irrational racial hatred? We don't know that before? Is this some deep message? Note to self: Any writer who says "[something] is bad, mm'kay" is a good one, and that is deep story-telling. Do I need to remind you of how this whole issue was triggered for the SH? Answer: Fanservice nosebleeds for one third of the arc. Introducing yonko/weapons; how does that redeem the arc? Were they in this arc? No. They were just hyped for the future as an excuse for the quality of the current arc. Tiger flashback, which was quite generic and nothing well-done. An arc's main aim is to be good, itself. The Tiger flashback will play a bit more of a significant role later, you'll see. Do you read the manga? I won't say anything against your criticisms because you do bring up some good points It felt more like setup, imo, to the current arc as well as the future arcs. Especially with the yonko stuff. |
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ToG25thBaam said: I don't know if he did, but CeeTwo did something similar, I have no idea why he never online since then though, I enjoyed his jokes. He is busy with his new persona. |
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SolBlade said: The way I see it, FI isn't as bad as most people say it is but the reason why it doesn't feel as "good" as most of the other arcs is because its a step-down from the shit that happened just before the timeskip. It's the same for the FB arc, which also happened just after a timeskip so the "scale" in both decreased. judals said: D0FLAMINGO said: judals said: What? That I think FB is not as bad as FI? What does that even got to do with it? What does "FI did what it attempted to do" even mean? What did it aim for? Being bad? So in order for an arc to be good, it just has to make a bucket list? Irrational racial hatred? We don't know that before? Is this some deep message? Note to self: Any writer who says "[something] is bad, mm'kay" is a good one, and that is deep story-telling. Do I need to remind you of how this whole issue was triggered for the SH? Answer: Fanservice nosebleeds for one third of the arc. Introducing yonko/weapons; how does that redeem the arc? Were they in this arc? No. They were just hyped for the future as an excuse for the quality of the current arc. Tiger flashback, which was quite generic and nothing well-done. An arc's main aim is to be good, itself. The Tiger flashback will play a bit more of a significant role later, you'll see. Do you read the manga? I won't say anything against your criticisms because you do bring up some good points It felt more like setup, imo, to the current arc as well as the future arcs. Especially with the yonko stuff. If Fisher has some good part later on, good for him (and me). But it won't change my view of whatever arc he originally appeared in that I didn't quite like. I don't see it as a redeeming factor. The yonko being imortant is a given (top tiers in shonen? sure), so they can be mentioned anytime and people would consider that part essential. Edit: Just to be clear: It's not that I had expectations of battles like Marineford's scale. To be quite honest I did not enjoy the main part of that arc, only the aftermath. Fishman Island felt like 50 episodes of almost nothing. It doesn't take a reference level to dislike that. Not for me anyway. |
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ToG25thBaam said: wanderingplayboy said: Isn't judals the guy who said he couldn't bear to watch FI arc and just read the wikia? Or I mistake him for someone else since they are really similar... I don't know if he did, but CeeTwo did something similar, I have no idea why he never online since then though, I enjoyed his jokes. CeeTwo was funny. Especially when he used Wikipedia summaries to criticise something. judals said: SolBlade said: The way I see it, FI isn't as bad as most people say it is but the reason why it doesn't feel as "good" as most of the other arcs is because its a step-down from the shit that happened just before the timeskip. It's the same for the FB arc, which also happened just after a timeskip so the "scale" in both decreased. judals said: D0FLAMINGO said: judals said: What? That I think FB is not as bad as FI? What does that even got to do with it? What does "FI did what it attempted to do" even mean? What did it aim for? Being bad? So in order for an arc to be good, it just has to make a bucket list? Irrational racial hatred? We don't know that before? Is this some deep message? Note to self: Any writer who says "[something] is bad, mm'kay" is a good one, and that is deep story-telling. Do I need to remind you of how this whole issue was triggered for the SH? Answer: Fanservice nosebleeds for one third of the arc. Introducing yonko/weapons; how does that redeem the arc? Were they in this arc? No. They were just hyped for the future as an excuse for the quality of the current arc. Tiger flashback, which was quite generic and nothing well-done. An arc's main aim is to be good, itself. The Tiger flashback will play a bit more of a significant role later, you'll see. Do you read the manga? I won't say anything against your criticisms because you do bring up some good points It felt more like setup, imo, to the current arc as well as the future arcs. Especially with the yonko stuff. If Fisher has some good part later on, good for him (and me). But it won't change my view of whatever arc he originally appeared in that I didn't quite like. I don't see it as a redeeming factor. The yonko being imortant is a given (top tiers in shonen? sure), so they can be mentioned anytime and people would consider that part essential. You'll see what I mean by importance in the current arc with regards to Fisher and co. I'll hold back from spoilers but you get the idea. That's true. Though the thing about the Yonko thus far is that Big Mom is the biggest one this time around.... I'll leave it there to prevent spoilers. |
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tsudecimo said: ToG25thBaam said: I don't know if he did, but CeeTwo did something similar, I have no idea why he never online since then though, I enjoyed his jokes. He is busy with his new persona. Joke of the day, made me lol. XD SolBlade said: You'll see what I mean by importance in the current arc with regards to Fisher and co. I don't see that though, am I blind? |
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tsudecimo said: ToG25thBaam said: I don't know if he did, but CeeTwo did something similar, I have no idea why he never online since then though, I enjoyed his jokes. He is busy with his new persona. Never know you can be this funny lmao |
judals said: wanderingplayboy said: Isn't judals the guy who said he couldn't bear to watch FI arc and just read the wikia? Or I mistake him for someone else since they are really similar... If you're referring to my argument with Jals9(name?) I was the one who said it shouldn't be done. Not that I make a fuss when people do it though. D0FLAMINGO said: judals said: It was the Oda's first and most serious attempt to introduce and write about a real life social issue then he did a terrible job at it. He also tried to do it with drugs, twice and also failed. Same with the half-made slavery theme. How? How not? He is talking about someone who coincidentally shares the tsudecimo said: ToG25thBaam said: I don't know if he did, but CeeTwo did something similar, I have no idea why he never online since then though, I enjoyed his jokes. He is busy with his new persona. judals join date: tsudecimo said: ToG25thBaam said: I don't know if he did, but CeeTwo did something similar, I have no idea why he never online since then though, I enjoyed his jokes. He is busy with his new persona. Judals join date: Jan 25 2014 CeeTwo last login: Jan 21, 2014 Favorite Animes: Fullmetal Alchemist 2003, Hunter x Hunter, Death Note, JoJo's Hmmmm... |
D0FLAMINGO said: He is talking about someone who coincidentally shares the join date I joined around after episode 113 of HxH came out, so? Anyway, you're talking about a guy who created 30+ alts to vote for naruto here, and coincidentally vote for sasuke in the avenger thread, as well as a certain episode of a certain series he disliked. As for my favorites, Berserk, Final Fantasy to add, what about them? |
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tsudecimo said: ToG25thBaam said: I don't know if he did, but CeeTwo did something similar, I have no idea why he never online since then though, I enjoyed his jokes. He is busy with his new persona. LOL, wasn't CeeTwo already the alt account of HurricaneSweet. LOL. Who knows if he doesn't have other accounts. |
SetsukoHara said: tsudecimo said: ToG25thBaam said: I don't know if he did, but CeeTwo did something similar, I have no idea why he never online since then though, I enjoyed his jokes. He is busy with his new persona. LOL, wasn't CeeTwo already the alt account of HurricaneSweet. LOL. Who knows if he doesn't have other accounts. CeeTwo Join date: August 24, 2013 Hurricane Sweet last login: August 24, 2013 Lol |
SetsukoHara said: tsudecimo said: ToG25thBaam said: I don't know if he did, but CeeTwo did something similar, I have no idea why he never online since then though, I enjoyed his jokes. He is busy with his new persona. LOL, wasn't CeeTwo already the alt account of HurricaneSweet. LOL. Who knows if he doesn't have other accounts. I'm looking forward to the next one. I think I liked CeeTwo, he was funny sometimes. |
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judals said: D0FLAMINGO said: judals said: I'll comment on the fullbring arc thing, it wasn't good, but not as bad as Fishman Island. You just lost whatever credibility you had with that statement. Fishman Island did what it attempted to do far better than what Fullbring arc attempted to do. No. That's just some elitist statement because people like to hate on bleach/naruto to validate their unconditional love for one piece. You still didn't explain how FI is still not much better than the HxH arcs I mentioned. I'd go so far as to say that it's better than those arcs combined ;) |
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bpSORE said: [i remember seeing the shounen magazines and it always was luffy , naruto n ichigo on the covers so i always thought that was the name big 3 came from. That's where the term was coined. ''Big 3'' manga in Shounen Jump. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBcLKA6oNYg Naruto only beat one piece once and Bleach only beat Naruto once. |
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| One Piece is just as if not more popular than Naruto and Bleach outside of Japan. |
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| France has a bigger manga industry than the U.S and so make up more the sales outside Japan and is where One Piece sells very well along with Naruto. Dunno about Bleach though. KILL this thread. One Piece has 340 million + copies in circulation so how can it not be in the Big 3? |
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FireEmblemIke24 said: France has a bigger manga industry than the U.S and so make up more the sales outside Japan and is where One Piece sells very well along with Naruto. Dunno about Bleach though. KILL this thread. One Piece has 340 million + copies in circulation so how can it not be in the Big 3? @topic Worst thread ever, of the big 3, Bleach sells worse than OP and Naruto ended. For start, there's no big 3 anymore. |
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| Nostalgia. Anyways when I ask this question I always thought US was the biggest market outside of Japan. Also I was talking about the west not Japan so I didn't want to hear how much it sold in Japan. @FireEmblemIke24 this thread was killed but got revived. Also calm down I can feel your anger through my screen, I was just asking a question. @GoldSlash I was talking about when they were in their prime. I bet you didn't even read my post. |
keragammingApr 15, 2015 7:09 AM
| when i was in high school, shounen jump just got started being published in north america as a magazine. its flagship titles were one piece, bleach, naruto, yugioh, sandman (by akira toriyama), maybe some others, i can't remember. around the same time is when the dubs started appearing on television. a lot of people who like shounen anime were exposed to those three, with one piece being the biggest in japan, at the same time. the only reason one piece doesn't seem as popular in the west as naruto or bleach is because one piece had a 4kids dub and was dumbed down, so all the high school narutards and bleachtards probably didn't watch the anime but probably still read the manga if they were reading monthly shounen jump in america. true fans one piece fans of the manga watched the subs and were known in anime circles, but talk to someone that doesn't really into anime and they probably only know naruto and bleach because they aired on late night television instead of saturday morning cartoons |
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| It was let in into the big 3 out of online word of mouth, damn pirates watching/reading it for free and not paying :) But hey, that's what one piece encourages people to do doesn't it? Merge the thread mods :) http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1361150&show=1850 |
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JD2411 said: lupadim said: You basically said they travel to an island,get supplies, beat up some bad guys and leaveNo, you saw exactly 100 accordingly to your list. And don't go off-topic please. You attacked One Piece and its position at the big 3. I defended it. Now argue against my points. And I said you didn't pay attention to the anime, not that you didn't watch it. Also, I just noticed something pretty sad http://prntscr.com/2uczmu Well. at the moment One Piece is at an 8/10 and Fairy Tail is 9/10. maybe this will change and Lupadim your printscreen proves you have good taste in anime, my friend They should use the satellite instead of Log Pose. Much more easier. And they could go by plane. |
keragamming said: @GoldSlash I was talking about when they were in their prime. I bet you didn't even read my post. Sorry, i still reading the topic. I've seen that post, but after. About Brazil, the problem is that nothing are much popular here, lots of pirate, tho. Since DBZ and CDZ, nothing made it and there's no way anymore, because animes aren't in open-TV agendas anymore. Tbh, OP is well know here and very popular(but there's a lot of complains about the animation, specially the first 100 episodes). The question is how Bleach got in the big 3! About AoT can't made the big3 because isn't Jump. I would guess that Boku Hero no Akademia will take Naruto's place. And Toriko is still trying.... Damn Toriko!!! KnB is a basketball with superpowers, is almost a battle shounen tho, but don't count as one. And if we taking their prime, series like Magi, KnB...or AoT doesn't exist in that time. Like ppl said, the big 3 are long-running shounen, they are old. |
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