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Jul 2, 2016 6:06 PM
#251
They are unnecessary, plain and simple |
It is so dense. Every single image has so many things going on. |
Jul 2, 2016 6:08 PM
#252
Fanservice has a tendency to get in the way of good storytelling, which makes a lot of people angry. |
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Jul 2, 2016 7:01 PM
#253
Selenium_Thorium said: Fanservice has a tendency to get in the way of good storytelling, which makes a lot of people angry. Out of interest, what if the focus of the story WAS fan service? Would this constitute a poor story or would this be an exception to the rule? Conversely, what if fan service was not directed toward narrative goals, but rather deployed towards satisfying a critique of the practice? Basically (and this is directed to everyone) is the complaint with the practice or the principle? If its the former then sure, if its the latter, well.... |
Jul 2, 2016 7:06 PM
#254
If anything these threads prove how MAL is filled with perverts and closet perverts... just embrace it already! |
Jul 2, 2016 7:07 PM
#255
katsucats said: what it is , is solid logic. ( also its a joke)ilovewendy16 said: I'm sorry, but this is the most Downs logic I've heard in a long time.I can't understand why there are people who hate fan service so much. I mean, its called fan service for a reason, it services the fans. How could you not like being serviced? |
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Jul 2, 2016 7:20 PM
#256
Jul 2, 2016 8:25 PM
#257
Jul 3, 2016 5:04 AM
#258
Fan service is only annoying when its random. I know it can also get annoying when its excessive. |
Jul 3, 2016 5:17 AM
#259
Because when the anime has a more serious theme I prefer for it to have 0 fanservice(Psycho Pass). When it has more of a comedic setting I don't mind the fanservice, I actually prefer for it to have more. |
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Jul 3, 2016 7:40 AM
#260
Because its always done in a childish and pandering way (stupid situations, afraid to talk about sex etc.). Whats there to like? Especially in those shitty generic harem shows. They aren't servicing me at all with it, quite the opposite in fact. It gives anime a bad name. I'm fine with sex and nudity when it fits and adds to the show (see Berserk). And if it isn't done in a way to pander to horny neckbeards. |
AssumingControlJul 3, 2016 7:44 AM
Jul 3, 2016 7:43 AM
#261
Yasukoto said: Its pretty annoying example Dimension W...Unnecessary fanservice, not to mention a crap ton of it is of cutesy characters who happen to like 12. Try and be adorable then suddenly half naked in sexual positions? Why? Just make adult characters and have them be adults if you need a sexy character to flash or what not. Yeah Japan's obsession with sexualizing little girls is fucking creepy & annoying. |
Aug 11, 2016 12:50 AM
#262
Ok me personally I really dislike fan service. Reason is I'm watching a regular action cartoon then in the next episode right when I expect something good or some action and fighting I get a filler episode full of fanservice. And then I have to watch because they give super important details that I will need later. I really don't like that because if I came for action or adventure the last thing I want are some skin colored pixels on my screen instead |
Aug 11, 2016 2:50 AM
#263
Because if I want to jerk off I can just watch porn |
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Aug 11, 2016 4:02 AM
#264
Aug 11, 2016 4:25 AM
#265
I'm split on it, I like it in certain anime, while not in others. And it also depends on the situation. |
Aug 11, 2016 4:33 AM
#266
Probably the same reason why you believe those who think violence in live-action and anime isn't that bad are bad people. To me, people who watch anime for the fanservice only are nothing but perverted pigs who should probably switch to porn. I personally do like occasional boob shots (panty shots and male nudity in general seem kind of unnecessary to me), but if it distracts me from what's going on, then it could have been better if it had been omitted from the scene(s) entirely. |
Aug 11, 2016 5:54 AM
#267
I don't mind a litle bit of fanservice, the problem tho is when you force the fanservice into people's face and more then 30% of the episode is fanservice at that point it's just simply annoying and if you like that you are just horny. |
Aug 11, 2016 6:01 AM
#268
I like fanservice only when its L wit da foot massage :O |
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Aug 11, 2016 7:55 AM
#269
it's because ppl don't like his dick get boner while watching chinese cartoon |
Aug 11, 2016 3:40 PM
#270
I think that a little bit of fanservice isn't that bad, as long as it makes sense within the show. Like, if there's a beach or pool episode, there's obviously going to be shirtless guys and girls in bikinis or in shows like Konosuba, a satire on the "stuck in a RPG world" trope, where the fanservice is mainly just to show how dumb the panty shots and shower scenes in those kind of shows are. But I do draw the line at things like guys falling on girls and groping their breasts, "accidently" seeing a girl in her underwear/naked (bonus hate if this is the first time we get to see the girl in question) or sexualising very young characters. |
Aug 11, 2016 5:10 PM
#271
I'll just say this fanservice moments could be ok but I will not be watching a ecchi/harem genre again. All shows are is fan service and they serve no purpose to me. |
Aug 11, 2016 5:39 PM
#272
I would say that it's more of people not liking it because it halts the seriousness, or even the plot of some shows. If you've watched enough stuff though you should honestly know what you're getting yourself into with most series. People just love to complain. It's the Internet. |
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Aug 11, 2016 7:22 PM
#273
Who doesn't like fanservice... Cuz ?? Show yourself!!! |
Aug 11, 2016 7:51 PM
#274
Fan service is fine but in different situations and shows it can be distracting. |
Aug 11, 2016 9:06 PM
#275
I'd rather not have my intelligence insulted by directors jiggling fleshy keys in my face when they're clearly trying to divert attention away from how shitty their show is. |
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Aug 11, 2016 10:40 PM
#276
Because people have preferences. I personally don't care for it. |
Aug 11, 2016 11:03 PM
#277
In most cases for me, fan service feels like a painful eyesore that is meant to ensure that the anime in question makes money by attracting a particular audience. My overused term in this case is:"safety blanket". ^^ Meaning, why be confident with your own work when you can just add a bunch of fan service scenes instead? It makes me groan especially when the writers are making this thought process obvious. Granted, not all anime is like this. Some have actually used fan service through a clever means so it depends. I have nothing against those that enjoy it though. Like what you want to like : ). |
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Aug 11, 2016 11:09 PM
#278
Fanservice isn't bad if it's used in the right place. But sometimes it really annoys me, especially when i watching Sakurasou... |
Still waiting for Half-Life 3... |
Aug 11, 2016 11:18 PM
#279
did people really have to revive this thread? i wanted a good night sleep :/ fuck this... im continuing my mission happily knowing the the more people complain about it, the more will be made |
Aug 11, 2016 11:25 PM
#280
Fanservice is bonus content (comedy, ecchi, action etc), some people just don't want an unnecessary content to add to story. And in the end its all about preference. Zelkiiro said: Elaborate how Carnival Phantasm is insulting viewers' intelligence? THE SHOW IS BASICALLY SECOND COMING OF JESUS.I'd rather not have my intelligence insulted by directors jiggling fleshy keys in my face when they're clearly trying to divert attention away from how shitty their show is. |
Aug 12, 2016 12:32 AM
#281
[ sarcasm ] -Fan service obviously only applies to ecchi scenes. -All heterosexual males are only capable of thinking about sex at any given moment. Hence why there are no male scientists or... (insert pretty much any other intellectual profession). -No matter what the circumstances, no matter how cliche, any and all ecchi scenes are appropriate in any and all shows. -The only time a woman can ever be attractive is when she is wearing very little or no clothing. -Larger breasts are better, with no upper size limit. The more unrealistic the better, because it's fiction, so we naturally don't want it to reflect any aspect of real life whatsoever. -If there isn't at least one scene wherein a female character is objectified and treated as a sex object per episode, the author has no grasp on what anime is and what all of the fans who ever watch any anime at all really want, even if they vehemently deny it. -The only people who dislike fan service are straight women and gay men. There are no exceptions to this rule. [ /sarcasm ] -Fan service isn't just ecchi scenes. Psychological anime can include fan service in the form of torture scenes which are in no way related to nudity or sexuality. Horror anime can include fan service in the form of creepy scenes that'll freak you out if you're in a dark room alone. Etc, etc. -It's probably more normal for people of any gender/sexual orientation to not be constantly thinking of sex. @EcchiLordMamster You had some decent arguments, but when you mentioned that you thought of something sexually stimulating every 10-20 seconds and proceeded to call it normal (which, by the way, means it applies to a majority) for straight guys, I immediately lost all respect for your opinion on the matter. -Ecchi scenes belong in ecchi anime. There are far too many anime out there that include scenes that are "fan service" in a "sexual" way when the anime has nothing to do with sex. Additionally, most anime that include this sort of thing rely on maybe 10-15 variations--they've been overused to the point that it's stupid. -I, for one, find it more aesthetically pleasing to look at someone who is wearing decent and flattering clothing, rather than something to make them out to be a sex doll. Finding someone attractive in a platonic way or even romantically can happen without it leading to desiring sex. -In real life, breast sizes higher than DD carry health hazards to women. Additionally, attractiveness is entirely subjective--"beauty is in the eye of the beholder"--so it's obvious that no single aspect of a person can be said to be universally 'better." -People who say they don't want to watch ecchi and don't want ecchi scenes in their anime are probably telling the truth. If you can't look at something from someone else's point of view, don't start or join in a discussion on the matter. I, for one, can recognize the popularity of "fan service" in anime and other forms of entertainment, and can appreciate that there are people who want to watch it. However, I can also say that I, along with many other people, would much rather watch something for its story and without any "fan service" than watch something based around fan service or with any included. And yes, the objectifying/sexualizing "fan service" is far too ubiquitous in anime (in my opinion)--I've got nothing against ecchi anime having that content, but when it's entirely random and included in an anime that deals with wholly different subjects, it just shouldn't be there. The "mandatory" bath and beach scenes that appear in (guess/estimating) upwards of 75% of anime are unnecessary, overused, and simply annoying for many people. Edit: Realized someone revived this thread from several months ago. I'll keep the comment here, though, as it seems people are posting their own replies fairly often now that the thread has been bumped. |
VagueClarityAug 12, 2016 12:53 AM
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Aug 12, 2016 12:35 AM
#282
There are two kinds of people. There are people who like fan service and there are people who deny it. |
Aug 12, 2016 1:53 AM
#283
I don't like anime that only exist to show fanservice. Most of them have a very cliche story with null character development (and bad characters as well). Why? Because they're made to drain the money of young Japanese otaku, and titties does that better than a good story. |
Aug 12, 2016 4:25 AM
#284
Selenium_Thorium said: Fanservice has a tendency to get in the way of good storytelling, which makes a lot of people angry. I believe I have addressed this argument already. The author makes story as interesting and as good as he/she can. No author ever thinks: "this is an awesome plot twist... but I guess I'd rather replace it with a bunch of pantyshots". The author thinks "discussing plans is too boring, what can I do to make it more fun? Oh yes, let's discuss our plans in hot springs! My main cast is all girls after all." Bongkai said: I would say that it's more of people not liking it because it halts the seriousness, or even the plot of some shows. If you've watched enough stuff though you should honestly know what you're getting yourself into with most series. People just love to complain. It's the Internet. Yeah, too many edgelords people who want to change anime's mood and even whole genre to the one they like. It doesn't work like that. The author knows what mood and genre he's going for, and uses fanservice to get that, and not the other way around. Zelkiiro said: I'd rather not have my intelligence insulted by directors jiggling fleshy keys in my face when they're clearly trying to divert attention away from how shitty their show is. Sorry, it's you who is insulting your own intelligence by watching shows you know aren't going to be what you want. Go read your textbooks, or wikipedia, or whatever. Anime is for entertainment. And if you don't know what a show is going to be, don't go bragging about your intelligence. Lord_Sithis said: I don't like anime that only exist to show fanservice. Most of them have a very cliche story with null character development (and bad characters as well). Why? Because they're made to drain the money of young Japanese otaku, and titties does that better than a good story. Reality isn't so simple. For maximum gain, you want an anime that is good all around. With well-developed characters the fans will want to call "waifu" and buy a ton of merchandize of. With plot that will grab the viewers after the novelty factor of skimpily-dressed girls wears thin. With fanservice that is too hot for TV, so that the fans will buy DVDs or subscribe to paid channels. With awesome graphics that the viewer will want to keep on DVD, in triplicate. And often enough, they get all of that. But the prude crowd doesn't know that, because they never try watching those shows. And even if they do, they keep badmouthing them like tsundere. And of course, there is no end to dumb people who never notice the girl's personality just because she has a nice rack. Untermenchen. |
Aug 12, 2016 5:16 AM
#285
Fanservice as a term encompasses a rather large scope of things i reckon, so... maybe some rules added to the OP's original post with little contextual details would help clarify how me / you can further narrow down the overall use of the term for continuity purposes. Since doing so would probably help t out a hell of alot when the word fanservice is casually being thrown around all over the place. (more likely than not) I'm probably just reiterating what's already being said similar topics leave me without a reason to discussion things that are overall worth while to be discussed become of said reasons. Although some users succeed when actively trying to make that happen, since the basis for it is there. I just wish the first post would start getting the ball rolling faster in that direction. But It's okay though; scattered brained topics / responses are the norm I kind of like it though |
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Aug 12, 2016 5:52 AM
#286
Pixelzz said: Zelkiiro said: Elaborate how Carnival Phantasm is insulting viewers' intelligence? THE SHOW IS BASICALLY SECOND COMING OF JESUS.I'd rather not have my intelligence insulted by directors jiggling fleshy keys in my face when they're clearly trying to divert attention away from how shitty their show is. Carnival Phantasm is quite discreet with its fanservice, though. I can think of only a moment or two where it was blatant (the shitty design of Red Saber, tennis outfit Caster), and other times it's an accurate spoof of the thing they're riffing on (magical girl show = lots of skirts flying upwards). And as I've always maintained, fanservice with a good reason behind it (spot-on satire, in this case) is acceptable. |
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Aug 12, 2016 7:22 AM
#287
VagueClarity said: @EcchiLordMamster You had some decent arguments, but when you mentioned that you thought of something sexually stimulating every 10-20 seconds and proceeded to call it normal (which, by the way, means it applies to a majority) for straight guys, I immediately lost all respect for your opinion on the matter. -Ecchi scenes belong in ecchi anime. There are far too many anime out there that include scenes that are "fan service" in a "sexual" way when the anime has nothing to do with sex. Additionally, most anime that include this sort of thing rely on maybe 10-15 variations--they've been overused to the point that it's stupid. about how often would you say you think of something sexy? try not to lie... you do realize that WE... NOT JAPAN... decide whats an "ecchi anime" theres no term in japan for sexual fanservice, were the ones who decided to point it out since were so god damn paranoid about that kinda stuff saying "ecchi shouldn't be in non ecchi anime" is like saying romance shouldn't be in non romance anime, or action shouldn't be in non action anime. its just a bonus thrown into a show (ecchi that doesn't advance the plot) and makes shows more enjoyable for many of us. imagine if we had NO negative outlook whatsoever on perversion.... you REALLY THINK so many people would look at them shoving tits and ass in our face as negative or distracting? probably no where near the degree we do now. we'd just be like, oh look titties, oh look ass, NICE! which is how ive looked at it. before "discussing" anime with other people i didn't even know people complained about it but anyway... like i said, the more people complain, the more fans like me will get exposed to it. and theres tons of ppl who it makes the show more enjoyable for and more characters more attractive. you also can't forget the people who claim they don't like it only cause theyre afraid they'll be judged if they admit they do i would know... i get PM's, FR and messages SEVERAL TIMES A WEEK for my profile... but yes people, keep complaining so more will keep being made :D |
Aug 12, 2016 7:53 AM
#288
And how often do you put on this online persona of an ecchi addict just to get attention? try not to lie... See what I did there? I don't like ecchi or lots of fanservice in my anime. You do and that's okay. Why do you always assume a person is hiding how perverted they are? Why do I have to read time after time that people are lying when they say they don't like overly sexual characters in their anime? Try to see the world from the perspective of someone else instead of just repeating the same things over and over again just so you can feel better about yourself. you do realize that WE... NOT JAPAN... decide whats an "ecchi anime" theres no term in japan for sexual fanservice, were the ones who decided to point it out since were so god damn paranoid about that kinda stuff We also have target demographics as genres on MAL. Just because it isn't exactly correct doesn't mean it serves absolutely no purpose. saying "ecchi shouldn't be in non ecchi anime" is like saying romance shouldn't be in non romance anime, or action shouldn't be in non action anime. its just a bonus thrown into a show (ecchi that doesn't advance the plot) and makes shows more enjoyable for many of us. You're making an awful comparison. Whether or not it's an important part of a series, adding romance to a show does change it considerably. Most tags for an anime indicate that the main plot or a subplot will be dedicated to that genre. Adding cleavage shots and panties doesn't. An anime could be exactly the same without overly titillating the viewers, except if the (semi) nudity would be part of the plot, in which case I wouldn't have anything against it. Just like you said in the second part of your post, it doesn't advance the plot in any way and just makes it more enjoyable (for you). imagine if we had NO negative outlook whatsoever on perversion.... you REALLY THINK so many people would look at them shoving tits and ass in our face as negative or distracting? probably no where near the degree we do now. we'd just be like, oh look titties, oh look ass, NICE! which is how ive looked at it. before "discussing" anime with other people i didn't even know people complained about it You're mistaking having a negative outlook on perversion with disliking the (lack of) focus of a certain anime. I love my fun, deep, engaging anime and I like naked women. I just prefer to keep them separated because they are distracting. But of course you claim it isn't so, if you mostly care about how hot the girls are and not about the actual anime. but anyway... like i said, the more people complain, the more fans like me will get exposed to it. and theres tons of ppl who it makes the show more enjoyable for and more characters more attractive. you also can't forget the people who claim they don't like it only cause theyre afraid they'll be judged if they admit they do How many people have you encountered like this? People who actually love ecchi but are afraid of being judged by others? I'm genuinely curious. |
Aug 12, 2016 11:19 AM
#289
@Suna_Kujira Because ppl DO hide how perverted they are... it's just a fact. Ppl are afraid of what ppl will think about them if they come off as perverted. Why? Because society let's the bad apples dictate everything What exactly is the issue against overly sexualized characters that cannot be said about many other elements in anime? Why do ppl always target ecchi Why does everything have to advance the plot? Whats wrong with adding "unnecessary" content just for the sake of pleasing ppl. Most things in our lives arent necessary yet we still want them. Why shouldnt this apply to anime as well? No I don't find it distracting I grew up knowinganime was perverted. To me it was just another part of anime. And that is ridiculous.. if I only caref about how hot the girls are why would I only watch anime? I only watch anime cause I like EVERYTHING better in it ALOT... I get statements from ppl like "I'm a closet perv" "I'd never admit to a girl that I'm into this" "what age did u become open about your love for ecchi?""im actually alot more perverted than I act like" When you're open about things and its obvious youre not asha med of it. Ppl start admitting things to u that they'd never admit to anyone else. I get ppl asking me for ecchi recommendations who say they never watched an ecchi, or ppl who are like "I'll watch an ecchi if u watch this". Also a coworker of mine who was like "wtf, im not into that" when he found out I was an ecchi fag, starts sending me loli threads on tumblr telling me he saves some of the pics There's NOTHING I say that's not based on what I've heard from others, if I say "some ppl are like this" its because I encounter them regularly Try being shameless and you'll learn alot more about ppl than you'd ever believe |
Aug 12, 2016 11:28 AM
#290
I dont particularly hate fanservice in a limited amount it seems good but some animes just overdo the whole thing and it just overwhelms the plot so then it doesn't turn me on but off. |
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Aug 12, 2016 11:29 AM
#291
Aug 12, 2016 11:35 AM
#292
I think it has to do with sex taboos. Fanservice of any sort brings stuff like sex to the notice of people and that triggers guilt complexes. Because stuff is supposed to be bad or frowned upon they feel that they should also have a simiar reaction (subconsciously ofcourse) Apply this everywhere. My friends who have an "I want to be socially acceptable and cool" thing revolving their heads literally cringe whenever i mention anime. because they are conditioned to think of anime as "juvenile" I hope you understand what i am trying to say :) |
Aug 12, 2016 11:49 AM
#293
Fanservice is not explicitly sexual. The worst kind of fanservice, however, is. Sex and romance are two things that are very rarely executed properly in anime, film or television. Most of the time, it is there just to be there, adds nothing to the overall experience and, as a result, is a waste of time. I am not 14 and do not need large, animated breasts all over my screen when I am trying to enjoy an action series. All that serves to do is cheapen the experience, limit who I can share this series with and continues the stereotype that anime fans only want to have sex with cartoon girls. It's become a joke in my circle that I have a three-strike rule when it comes to a new series. If I see three instances of pointless sexual content in a single episode, I drop the show, regardless of how interesting the premise is. I refuse to be insulted or perpetuate the anime fan stereotype. |
Aug 12, 2016 11:49 AM
#294
As someone who bears absolutely no interest in sexual activities or material whatsoever, I find this phenomenon unnecessary and causeless in the anime that I watch. It is remarkably difficult to find titles that evade procreative tendencies entirely, as it is of course a generally natural and probable circumstance that occurs within the majority of beings. In the works where it does occur and where I do happen to stumble upon this matter, I feel either uncomfortable, or I cannot grasp the message at all. For instance, this community has a solemn belief that shows such as Free!, Haikyuu or Kuroko no Basket are 'homosexual'. I cannot see this and I do not believe this to be true, either. The characters show no romantic interest in one another, never make intimate remarks, and are merely executing the sports which entertains them. Perhaps I am naive on this subject, and too uneducated on the concern as I am indifferent about sexuality. |
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Aug 12, 2016 12:11 PM
#295
It's the idea that the creator is desperately adding specific things that they know will grab viewers attention. The people who dislike fan service believe it is unneeded and therefore dislike the anime as a whole. And maybe because it is overused quite a bit as a safe haven for money makin. Of course this is all speculation. |
Aug 12, 2016 12:50 PM
#296
EcchiLordMamster said: VagueClarity said: @EcchiLordMamster You had some decent arguments, but when you mentioned that you thought of something sexually stimulating every 10-20 seconds and proceeded to call it normal (which, by the way, means it applies to a majority) for straight guys, I immediately lost all respect for your opinion on the matter. -Ecchi scenes belong in ecchi anime. There are far too many anime out there that include scenes that are "fan service" in a "sexual" way when the anime has nothing to do with sex. Additionally, most anime that include this sort of thing rely on maybe 10-15 variations--they've been overused to the point that it's stupid. about how often would you say you think of something sexy? try not to lie... you do realize that WE... NOT JAPAN... decide whats an "ecchi anime" theres no term in japan for sexual fanservice, were the ones who decided to point it out since were so god damn paranoid about that kinda stuff saying "ecchi shouldn't be in non ecchi anime" is like saying romance shouldn't be in non romance anime, or action shouldn't be in non action anime. its just a bonus thrown into a show (ecchi that doesn't advance the plot) and makes shows more enjoyable for many of us. imagine if we had NO negative outlook whatsoever on perversion.... you REALLY THINK so many people would look at them shoving tits and ass in our face as negative or distracting? probably no where near the degree we do now. we'd just be like, oh look titties, oh look ass, NICE! which is how ive looked at it. before "discussing" anime with other people i didn't even know people complained about it but anyway... like i said, the more people complain, the more fans like me will get exposed to it. and theres tons of ppl who it makes the show more enjoyable for and more characters more attractive. you also can't forget the people who claim they don't like it only cause theyre afraid they'll be judged if they admit they do i would know... i get PM's, FR and messages SEVERAL TIMES A WEEK for my profile... but yes people, keep complaining so more will keep being made :D Two or three times a day at the most, often not at all. I am aware that "ecchi" isn't a genre tag in Japan, but that doesn't mean this sexual content isn't what it is. Yes, it is exactly like saying romance shouldn't be in non-romance anime and action shouldn't be in non-action anime. If I'm watching a cute SoL comedy, I don't want random mecha battles. If I'm watching something for the action, I don't want random confessions and dating. Because it's not what I am watching those anime for. The main problem with the ecchi content is that it's much more frequent in non-ecchi anime than romance is in non-romance anime, etc. I have no negative outlook on sexuality. It's perfectly natural, and there's nothing wrong with it. But it's not something that I am personally interested in with regards to various forms of entertainment. I watch romance anime because I want to see the relationship developing and because I enjoy seeing characters interacting and growing closer. But I also watch non-romance anime for the same reasons; just because it's platonic doesn't mean there isn't a good relationship between two people. So no, I don't want nudity or near-nudity in the anime that I watch. It just doesn't interest me. The complaints of those of us who don't live in Japan will have no effect on the medium. What we purchase can, and what we legally watch can, but I assure you the directors aren't monitoring these boards to see just how vehemently people condemn or praise ecchi anime. I don't doubt that there are people who hide their perversion because they're afraid of judgment. However, I also don't think that those people are more common than those who genuinely dislike that sort of "fan service." I don't have a problem with shows that contain sexual content, explicit or otherwise (though they're nothing I'd ever want to watch). I have a problem with shows that contain it despite being labelled otherwise, especially when those shows are things that, without one or two instances of this, would otherwise be appropriate for a much wider age range or appealing to a much wider audience. If people want to watch ecchi and hentai, I won't condemn them for it, but it's not something I'm interested in, and it's not something I want in an anime completely unrelated to it. |
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Aug 12, 2016 1:40 PM
#297
@VagueClarity I'm not saying you're lying but I don't believe for a second thst u can go even 20min w/o a pair of titties, a really hot girl or somthing like that popping in to your head What can I say at this point other than personal preference? I personally don't mind "unnecessary content" being thrown in to things for no reason othere than pleasing purposes. Thats what makes Japan so interesting, they don't give a fuck and I highly respect that. They love ass and titties and will show it whatever way they can. And Animes tendency to make u say "wtf? Why?" Is exactly what draws ppl in in the first place. And whether or not ppl want to admit it, the characters are hot so ofc ppl want to see their body parts I'm sure the number of ppl who lie is much higher than we think. Just imagine what we'd learn about ppl if no one ever lied, not that we shouldn't ever. it's just I wish perversion wasn't considered inherently negative. Besides, it's proven time and time again that the less taboo something is the less problems related to that thing occur. When u admit something no one wants to, you learn who else hasn't been telling anyone |
Aug 12, 2016 1:54 PM
#298
Getting serviced all the time is tiring. As crazy as it sounds you can get bored of it after a while. |
Aug 12, 2016 1:58 PM
#299
If a "good story" can be ruined by something as mild as fanservice, it probably wasn't a very good story in the first place. That said, I'm not a big "fan" of fanservice because it is usually an artificial way of inserting sexual content into a show. Shows which do fanservice the best are those which work the sexual elements into the setting/plot itself, so it's not even there as "fanservice" in the first place. Although I didn't like it much overall Kill la Kill was very good at doing this. EDIT: I also don't get the "if I wanted to masturbate, I would go see porn, not watch an anime". Just because it's not the purest form of sexual stimulation doesn't mean that it's worthless by default. You could also say "If I wanted to see violence, I would go shoot someone, not watch a violent anime", but you wouldn't, because that would be stupid. |
LobindeAug 12, 2016 2:03 PM
Aug 12, 2016 2:07 PM
#300
There are a few reasons why people do not like fanservice. - It's a popular thing to hate on - see overly popular poor, average or above average anime - People are ashamed of admitting to liking fanservice because they'll come across as a "pervert" - This is true but it's not a common case and I wouldn't say everyone that hates fanservice thinks like this. - People think it's a waste of time and it adds nothing to the story. - Now this is probably the most relevant reason to most people, they think it adds nothing. Do you know what else adds nothing to the story? Comedic scenes and most action scenes. Yet almost no one complains about it. There's probably more, but I don't care, but the point is, it's not an issue unless it disrupts the flow similarly to action scenes or comedic scenes. For example: Two people talk in a very important topic at school concerning person A who lives alone with his grandmother and his grandmother has cancer and about to die. Suddenly person B makes a joke about it and person A just goes along with the flow. No importance to the comedic scene whatsoever right? Now replace comedic scene with action scene and fanservice scene and you'll get a similar situation. (Action: Person B suddenly hits person A and person A doesn't care and moves along) (Fanservice: Person B accidentally trips and falls on top of the teacher walking past them and grabs her boobs and then the scene is disrupted). My example might not be the best but it gets the point across. This is just a stupid scenario thought up. It's meant to be enjoyment for a person when done right. |
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