Aldnoah.Zero Season One
| a good romance is needed in every anime i think ... deep down we all like happy endings and good romance , because we all want real romance in our lives :) |
Shomix said: a good romance is needed in every anime i think ... deep down we all like happy endings and good romance , because we all want real romance in our lives :) No it isn't. In fact, romance, even if the circumstances for telling a story do no call for it, is often why Anime/Manga waste time and eventually end up as bad Anime, when they could have told a compelling story about whatever the hell the plot is telling. |
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GodlyKyon said: Shomix said: a good romance is needed in every anime i think ... deep down we all like happy endings and good romance , because we all want real romance in our lives :) No it isn't. In fact, romance, even if the circumstances for telling a story do no call for it, is often why Anime/Manga waste time and eventually end up as bad Anime, when they could have told a compelling story about whatever the hell the plot is telling. That because its bad romance ... I think i said good romance :) A good romance is what every anime needs .... but i guess japanese are that kind of people who doesnt get it , so they cnt create really good romance ... This show doesnt need 2 much romance , but it needs that little push ... |
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Wyzdm said: Well from episode 5 it looks like if there will be a pairing it will be with Slain and the princess while Inaho has potential with that red hair girl although he also has chances with the princess. Maryruss said: Inahox Slaine :) Oh god no please don't start yaio ships Just browsed on Pixiv, the majority of the pictures are InahoxSlaine even though they've never met. |
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Wyzdm said: Well from episode 5 it looks like if there will be a pairing it will be with Slain and the princess while Inaho has potential with that red hair girl although he also has chances with the princess. Maryruss said: Inahox Slaine :) Oh god no please don't start yaio ships It´s just a joke :) |
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| Hope not. I can see Slaine and the Princess but why have a romance subplot? The closest Urobuchi got to romance was Madoka and Homura and for plot reasons (just watch Rebellion). EDIT: I disregard Gargantia. Goddamn bastard child. |
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Wyzdm said: Well from episode 5 it looks like if there will be a pairing it will be with Slain and the princess while Inaho has potential with that red hair girl although he also has chances with the princess. Maryruss said: Inahox Slaine :) Oh god no please don't start yaio ships https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNOV9zpJN5o Yaio te nani? |
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| Im not gonna lie, I kind of want inaho to ntr slaine. I prefer romance where the characters meet for the first time and slowly develop over the course of the show as apposed to a already pre-existing relationship from before the series started HunterTennouji said: Wasnt the romance in phantom supposed to be like a huge crutch tot he entire story-line? I think hes gone way farther than the yuri pandering in madoka.Hope not. I can see Slaine and the Princess but why have a romance subplot? The closest Urobuchi got to romance was Madoka and Homura and for plot reasons (just watch Rebellion). |
JizzyHitlerAug 2, 2014 2:28 PM
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
y123y said: jzmagic said: Love triangle confirmed And who are the three people involved in that love triangle again? Marito, Yuki and Darzana? |
JizzyHitler said: Im not gonna lie, I kind of want inaho to ntr slaine. I prefer romance where the characters meet for the first time and slowly develop over the course of the show as apposed to a already pre-existing relationship from before the series started HunterTennouji said: Wasnt the romance in phantom supposed to be like a huge crutch tot he entire story-line? I think hes gone way farther than the yuri pandering in madoka.Hope not. I can see Slaine and the Princess but why have a romance subplot? The closest Urobuchi got to romance was Madoka and Homura and for plot reasons (just watch Rebellion). Or they could be platonic life-partners. It's a stretch I know, but there was no outright romance between Ein and Zwei. I personally think that |
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Thess said: Thank you for the caps. Princess behind Slaine, kawaiii! |
| After just watched episode 5 I would probably say Slaine x Princess and Inaho x the stoic red-haired girl. |
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| Slaine and Hime OTP lol |
| MOST OF THE FANS MAKE FANARTS of SLAINE x INAHO Wacha think about that? |
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GodlyKyon said: MOST OF THE FANS MAKE FANARTS of SLAINE x INAHO Wacha think about that? The 80% of the shipping fanart is Slaine/Asseylum actually. |
| i dnt care who gets together , just i want happy end , with slaine dead :) XD |
| I don't think romance will play a strong part in this series but it wouldn't surprise me to see Inaho and the princess together instead of Slaine x princess. That would be like Gundam Seed with Kira, Lacus and Athrun :D |
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| I'm gonna pray as hard as I can for incest route. Inaho X Sis! Pray with me you filthy mongrels! Offer your mortal flesh to the incest gods!! |
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10th_man_down said: After just watched episode 5 I would probably say Slaine x Princess and Inaho x the stoic red-haired girl. ^^^^^^^^ |
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| After looking at previous works from that author I'd think it would end up Inaho x Princess, since they both are from two different styles of living and worlds. Of course slaine is too but he grew up with the princess so he isn't as different anymore as Inaho. We will see though |
| I do agree that SlainexPrincess will very likely happen, but InahoxRayet? Not so much. Inaho has actually interacted very little with either the princess or Rayet, at least until now. The three characters he interacts with the most are Calm, his big sister and Inko. And thats exactly the reason why at least for now the only ship I can see happening with Inaho is InahoxInko but then again childhood friends usually never end up with the MC in anime so its pretty possible that Inaho might remain unattached. |
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| So many people want Slaine and the Princess.... Too bad it seems like she doesn't think of him in that way, even if he's in love with her for saving his life. The way I see things, it'll probably be Inaho and the Princess. Her current proximity to Inaho, plus the fact that in the past 5 episodes, she hasn't even said anything about missing Slaine, wondering how he's doing, etc., pretty much indicates that he's not THAT important to her. Plus, they need a representative of the Earth to partner the Princess of Vers. Slaine doesn't exactly fit that profile given he's been a slave of Vers for 5 years and counting. I get the feeling that Slaine might actually turn bad due to jealousy, which would be really cool to watch. He would make a really good antagonist for Inaho, considering that all the Martians thus far seem to be complete idiots. It'll be like "only a human can truly outsmart a human" sort of thing. Thess said: GodlyKyon said: MOST OF THE FANS MAKE FANARTS of SLAINE x INAHO Wacha think about that? The 80% of the shipping fanart is Slaine/Asseylum actually. If authors and directors really gave a shit about fan shipping, Asuna would have already been killed off in SAO :P You would think that they've already got a rough draft of the overall story already, and they're just using the time between episodes to animate the stuff. Storyboards and overall flow of the anime shouldn't vary much from what they've already set way before the anime started. Fan-Shipping really has no say in this world much. That said, please indicate a poll anywhere that shows that people ship who you say they do. Cold hard facts, an observation makes, not just pictures you see on the internet. |
L-RyoshiAug 4, 2014 12:01 PM
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L-Ryoshi said: The way I see things, it'll probably be Inaho and the Princess. Her current proximity to Inaho, plus the fact that in the past 5 episodes, she hasn't even said anything about missing Slaine, wondering how he's doing, etc., pretty much indicates that he's not THAT important to her. She hasn’t even had screen time to introspect in the show, only shows up when is plot relevant to stop the war, though. We don't see her thoughts at all. So how would you know? (actually the only characters who get some kind of depth so far are Marito and Slaine, it's pretty bad overall ugh). L-Ryoshi said: I get the feeling that Slaine might actually turn bad due to jealousy, which would be really cool to watch. He would make a really good antagonist for Inaho, considering that all the Martians thus far seem to be complete idiots. It'll be like "only a human can truly outsmart a human" sort of thing. Slaine is described as a nice boy with a kind heart in his core. He didn’t go full revenge when she died, he lamented the circumstances. You are completely misunderstanding the character. He’s also a protagonist with Inaho and the Princess, not an antagonist. See Aoki Ei interview about the show. He is obviously the protagonist in charge of the political intrigue like Inaho’s function is to fight the Mecha of the Episode ™ so far. Their goal is to stop the war, was not that kind of obvious? According to the director, they have equal measure of importance, so you should expect Inaho pushed aside and get the Princess to shine in the future on her own. I'm unsure why people even think there's going to be a love triangle, this isn't Macross. Male protagonists in mecha rarely get their love interests overlap (rarely as in I never saw an example of it). I'll be very surprised if there is one. L-Ryoshi said: If authors and directors really gave a shit about fan shipping, Asuna would have already been killed off in SAO :P You would think that they've already got a rough draft of the overall story already, and they're just using the time between episodes to animate the stuff. Storyboards and overall flow of the anime shouldn't vary much from what they've already set way before the anime started. Fan-Shipping really has no say in this world much. That said, please indicate a poll anywhere that shows that people ship who you say they do. Cold hard facts, an observation makes, not just pictures you see on the internet. Asuna is the most popular female character in SAO (even if I don't follow the show I know this). What's your point? I am correcting a mistaken fact about the fanart. Why are you randomly jumping at this? But I'll indulge you, here is a tip about cold facts since you want them: the people doing official art for the show pair Slaine and Asseylum, not just the fanartists. Slaine is so popular that he is getting his own manga special in the second BD. The ED show (episode 4) has a visual key of Slaine with the princess and Inaho…with birds. So yes, they do care. More cold facts: people have cared to modify plot before. This is not an adaptation but an original IP of an expensive budget and they do care about getting a good reception. You should not forget that this has half to be animated after a long pause. You should learn a bit more about marketing. They are gauging the market. That is Aniplex wants to do. A pause in production and then continue. Producers have a lot to say. Oh, and scenes are cut and changed and added in BD occasionally. Yunoha and Jin was so popular as pairing in Aquarion Evol that the staff regretted killing him off but that was written, so they compensated with the ending bonus with his spirit possessing Yunoha's toy so he'll be alive in a sense and with her in the last BD. Why? Because it was the show fan favorite pairing: they even got a special ending for themselves when they were side characters (hilariously). It's that simple. I wouldn't make assumptions that Asseylum doesn't like him or she'll fall with Inaho (I doubt she'll survive the show, anyway), but I'll say this now: they are conscious the money maker is Slaine, that's why he's getting this manga and merchandise (while Inaho gets 0). Now, in a not romantic or shipping concern, Aniplex is recently known for throwing their mecha-piloting Japanese protagonists to the wolves if they aren't profitable (See Haruto of Valvrave; the other protagonist, L-Elf, overshadowed him in the second half so much he became the "liberator" that the motto of the show focused on, of revealing the truth of the world, and it was hinted that he became Emperor of the Galaxy because, well, he was more popular. While Haruto died in his arms, obviously, they weren't going to completely pair him with a girl when the fandom was mostly into BL and bromance). P.S: Wasn't you the one who said Tsumugu was a fifthwheel to the group and Kaname and Chisaki were going to end up together? Yeah, sorry but not taking your analysis about romantic subtext seriously, buddy. |
ThessAug 4, 2014 1:50 PM
Thess said: Woah, look at all that flame and hate in that comment. Firstly, to address your NagiAsu assumption, which I have no idea why it's here in the first place. Go back to all my posts on NagiAsu and re-read them if you really want to quote me on something proper. I made objective anaylsis on each and every episode of NagiAsu, I never made any statements of Kaname and Chisaki ending up together, nor did I mention that Tsumugu was a fifth wheel in a personal opinion (well... perhaps once and only in hindsight). What I did was analyze all the routes available, and I even concluded with the fact that Tsumugu and Chisaki were going to be together despite the fact that some people ship otherwise. I even lamented the fact that I cheered for the underdog that is Kaname. Go back and properly read each post if you really want to quote and be a smart ass, otherwise, don't bother quoting half-assed, "buddy". Second, you talk about Aquarion Evol,yeah they didn't exactly change the original script now did they? They changed up shit on the BD, in POST-Broadcasting, simply because they did a popularity poll AFTERWARDS. Read my post. I wrote it on the basis that they already have an overall direction and flow made and readied BEFORE the entire show started getting animated. Sure they can chop and change as they like with the animation and stuff, but more often than not, they aren't gonna change up their set pairings and stuff after just four episodes because their "Internet Fans who do Fanart demand it". Is that concept simple enough for you? As for your deal with Aniplex and their tendencies, dude you chucked out two names, out of how many? I've not seen either so I don't really have any say about them, but: 1) were they both original animations and not adaptations from god knows where (Light novels perhaps, with an already set ending) ? 2) How many mech shows has Aniplex done in which your little hypothesis is refuted? Care to share ALL the Mech shows that they've done? Is your population limited to just two shows? If so then I fear for the state of this Earth. Are you some Aniplex employee, in that you would understand how they operate? If so, then kudos to you, but I don't think you should assume that how you view these companies operate is what happens EVERY SINGLE TIME. As for the Asuna point, we have a shitload of haters of SAO on MAL calling for her to be cut from the show, moreso than those supporting her (at least from what I've seen in the SAOII forums and during the ALO arc). My point, is simply that if directors were actually that overly concerned with how viewers and fans perceived their works, then they would probably have come out with a half dozen endings to cater to all of those fans. The fact that there is one ending to every anime, and not all fans will be happy about said ending pretty much sums it up for me. The studios work on their own agenda, they don't give a shit about how the fans like or dislike the stuff, specially not halfway through the first cour. Cold hard facts-wise: People doing official art for the show do pairings for more than one set of people all the time, if you took all those official cards and shit so seriously as you do now, then most of those girls in almost every show would be lesbians, considering how much time official artists draw girls together hugging and shit. As for your cold hard facts: where's the examples? I said it before, I ain't hating on you or anything, I just want to see your argument backed up with actual data, which you aren't giving me thus far, not just your speculation of the reason for what happened. For all we know the Princess will be getting a manga special in the third BD, and then the Lieutenant in the fourth. How does appearing in a manga special on the second BD indicate popularity? It could be that they just happened to line up their specials to have the MCs back stories first (for gods sake I would personally say that no one in this story thus far has had their story developed yet)? Could the reason why they are doing the manga special be because Inaho is getting too much screen time and they want fans to focus on the fact that they have more than one MC in this show? You talked about gauging the market to see what happens after the first cour, well considering they are coming out with the BDs now for the first cour, wouldn't you say that their "market gauging" as you so mention, is incomplete? If so, then throwing any specials out int he BDs would be to Test the markets, and not in response of the reaction to the markets. To keep things simple: Japanese popularity poll link for characters/ships/what other data you want to base your arguements for Aldnoah.Zero on please? The fact that you answered my "I get the feeling..." comment with a defensive post just clearly states your preference for Slaine as an MC and most likely your ship as well. I simply made a comment on what I think may happen in the future, pure speculation, and that's my right to do so because I haven't seen the end of this show yet. The fact that you would blow up in my face because of this just shows how much you care for the character (sic). I still haven't formed my opinion on anyone in this show yet because to me no one has developed much character-wise since the first episode, I'm also basing my guesses regarding Inaho and the Princess on simple, basic facts (proximity, time spent together, experiences together) and coupled them with things which I have and have not seen on screen, like the fact that the Princess is too busy with her field trip to even worry about your favorite Slaine, and the fact that the Princesses interactions with Slaine in the first episode indicated no romantic entailment (what else am I suppose to do but observe whats been put out there). As to romance, like I stated in my episodic post, I couldn't care less about it, and I would definitely not mind if this show had none at all because I prefer watching all the political and military maneuvering/outmaneuvering over mushy love shit that has nothing to do in a war zone. Re-read if you don't get me. I'm basing my stuff solely on observations from the show. I couldn't give a rats ass if half of Japan liked your favorite character or followed your ship or not, because thats just the fandom speaking. To me the only sure thing in a plot is how the director develops it, and in my humble opinion, they tend to have a set flow to things before people started favoring characters and ships and shit like that. I don't tend to ship romance in mech shows (given that most of them are harems anyway), though... after your vehement reply, I'll consider making an exception and ship the pairing that you hate most, just for the fun of it. It's obsessed "I know everything there is to know about marketing and this industry and regular viewers with comments like you can just shut the fuck up" fans like you who detract from my viewing enjoyment afterall. Don't presume to know me. And again, cold hard statistical facts and data, with links to said facts please. 80%? Did you statistically come up with those numbers?Don't make me laugh. It's pretty much all commissioned fan-art. Propaganda, much? Happy shipping "buddy". |
L-RyoshiAug 4, 2014 7:01 PM
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L-Ryoshi said: Firstly, to address your NagiAsu assumption, which I have no idea why it's here in the first place. Go back to all my posts on NagiAsu and re-read them if you really want to quote me on something proper. I made objective anaylsis on each and every episode of NagiAsu, I never made any statements of Kaname and Chisaki ending up together, nor did I mention that Tsumugu was a fifth wheel in a personal opinion (well... perhaps once and only in hindsight). What I did was analyze all the routes available, and I even concluded with the fact that Tsumugu and Chisaki were going to be together despite the fact that some people ship otherwise. I even lamented the fact that I cheered for the underdog that is Kaname. Go back and properly read each post if you really want to quote and be a smart ass, otherwise, don't bother quoting half-assed, "buddy". You did say Tsumugu was a fifthwheel during the first half of the show which was obviously wrong. While I didn’t post in the forum, I did lurk and keep an eye on it. You saw him as someone who was not going to be pair up, so nope. Sorry. You also misjudged and analyzed them wrongly trying to pass their dynamics as “family” when they were obviously romantic and look, they were meant to be romantic. Obviously your radar of reading romantic subtext must be broken somehow if you didn’t detect it. Anyone who posts in Animesuki knows I predicted Tsumugu/Chisaki since earlier in season 1, and look it happened. Why? Pay attention to the way the character set ups are. L-Ryoshi said: Second, you talk about Aquarion Evol,yeah they didn't exactly change the original script now did they? They changed up shit on the BD, in POST-Broadcasting, simply because they did a popularity poll AFTERWARDS. Read my post. I wrote it on the basis that they already have an overall direction and flow made and readied BEFORE the entire show started getting animated. Sure they can chop and change as they like with the animation and stuff, but more often than not, they aren't gonna change up their set pairings and stuff after just four episodes because their "Internet Fans who do Fanart demand it". Is that concept simple enough for you? Director cuts are the final version and canon of the product, not the broadcast (only made to sell and promote the product in late night anime like this one). They regretted killing him in the first season, so shoehorned this ending for the fans. You don’t get it, right? This is not some form of art, this is a product they want to sell and it’s an original, so they want to sell well. Go to twitter, go to the nico broadcasts, and you’ll see which character is a breakout character. L-Ryoshi said: As for your deal with Aniplex and their tendencies, dude you chucked out two names, out of how many? I've not seen either so I don't really have any say about them, but: 1) were they both original animations and not adaptations from god knows where (Light novels perhaps, with an already set ending) ? 2) How many mech shows has Aniplex done in which your little hypothesis is refuted? Care to share ALL the Mech shows that they've done? Original. The process for anime original is different, I am sure you know why. Because it doesn’t have a preexisting fanbase and they don’t want to repel the fanbase they are pandering to. It’s their buyers, dude. You don’t piss off who is giving you yen. I am sure Aniplex didn’t touch Evol. However, Aniplex is behind the backing of this and was of Valvrave, their last year star mecha show. They used the same strategy of a pause and the other half produced in the interim of those months. I think you know why, production schedules and change to appeal to the market they gain. It is not like they had a clear idea of what to do with poor Inaho. They didn’t even know his personality until they sat and wrote the script for the first time (which is awfully unprofessional of them and I blame his poor characterization on this). L-Ryoshi said: As for the Asuna point, we have a shitload of haters of SAO on MAL calling for her to be cut from the show, moreso than those supporting her (at least from what I've seen in the SAOII forums and during the ALO arc). My point, is simply that if directors were actually that overly concerned with how viewers and fans perceived their works, then they would probably have come out with a half dozen endings to cater to all of those fans. The fact that there is one ending to every anime, and not all fans will be happy about said ending pretty much sums it up for me. The studios work on their own agenda, they don't give a shit about how the fans like or dislike the stuff, specially not halfway through the first cour. Who the hell cares about MAL? She is Japan’s number one favorite female SAO character. MAL users, in their majority, don’t buy BD and DVD and aren’t the LN author target audience. L-Ryoshi said: Cold hard facts-wise: People doing official art for the show do pairings for more than one set of people all the time, if you took all those official cards and shit so seriously as you do now, then most of those girls in almost every show would be lesbians, considering how much time official artists draw girls together hugging and shit. As for your cold hard facts: where's the examples? Hugging is supposed to be a showcase of lesbian behavior? Who knew. Anyway, in case you are being sarcastic, mecha shows usually showcase their main heterosexual couples in official art, ending or opening cues. Did you ever even watch mecha? So far, Inaho is paired with no one. While Slaine is always attached to certain someone. Even the manga adaptation cover of the show has Asseylum blushing and clutching her hands on Slaine’s amulet. The OST cover is the Princess striding in Slaine’s room. They aren’t being subtle, why do you think they made their meeting that way? L-Ryoshi said: I said it before, I ain't hating on you or anything, I just want to see your argument backed up with actual data, which you aren't giving me thus far, not just your speculation of the reason for what happened. The show just started and Slaine gets cards, posters and his amulet in sale. Inaho does not get merchandising. Except for one picture he shares with Slaine and the Princess (with the said Princess asymmetrically closer to Slaine, which is eye-unpleasant) and a cover (with his co protags) in this Comiket: he does not get special material, so far. If you lurked more in the fandom you would know about it. It’s because there is no demand for it so far. There is demand for Slaine products. L-Ryoshi said: For all we know the Princess will be getting a manga special in the third BD, and then the Lieutenant in the fourth. How does appearing in a manga special on the second BD indicate popularity? It could be that they just happened to line up their specials to have the MCs back stories first (for gods sake I would personally say that no one in this story thus far has had their story developed yet)? Could the reason why they are doing the manga special be because Inaho is getting too much screen time and they want fans to focus on the fact that they have more than one MC in this show? Doesn’t matter if they do. That’s not announced, Slaine was announced because his success was immediate (the mangaka assigned to this gave the news a day before the official announcement in the website and she was just contacted). They are reacting to his popularity immediately. The Princess will feature anyway. Also not at all. The bonus buddled with BDs is because they want to increase the sales of their products, adding an extra value, they include a desirable item for the fanbase like CD dramas, for instance. L-Ryoshi said: You talked about gauging the market to see what happens after the first cour, well considering they are coming out with the BDs now for the first cour, wouldn't you say that their "market gauging" as you so mention, is incomplete? If so, then throwing any specials out int he BDs would be to Test the markets, and not in response of the reaction to the markets. Nico commentaries are a way of gauging, since the audience posts their comments in their channels. Also twitter trends, Slaine was one briefly. Inaho wasn’t. L-Ryoshi said: To keep things simple: Japanese popularity poll link for characters/ships/what other data you want to base your arguements for Aldnoah.Zero on please? Not yet out. But please, if you want to know some number of ‘fans’, go and use at least twitter tags, access to mixi, or look up in the number of “favorite” and “searched” art in pixiv. L-Ryoshi said: The fact that you answered my "I get the feeling..." comment with a defensive post just clearly states your preference for Slaine as an MC and most likely your ship as well. I simply made a comment on what I think may happen in the future, pure speculation, and that's my right to do so because I haven't seen the end of this show yet. Of course, Inaho is really boring. I never hide this show would be better if they bothered to give him a proper characterization. Pairing him with the princess is likely going to make him the target of hate which means he will derailed and die a horrible end in the second half, despite my large indifference, I don’t want Haruto V2. I want an engaging character or this show would be a chore to watch. L-Ryoshi said: The fact that you would blow up in my face because of this just shows how much you care for the character (sic). I still haven't formed my opinion on anyone in this show yet because to me no one has developed much character-wise since the first episode, I'm also basing my guesses regarding Inaho and the Princess on simple, basic facts (proximity, time spent together, experiences together) and coupled them with things which I have and have not seen on screen, like the fact that the Princess is too busy with her field trip to even worry about your favorite Slaine, and the fact that the Princesses interactions with Slaine in the first episode indicated no romantic entailment (what else am I suppose to do but observe whats been put out there). No, the reason I told you off was because you misunderstood a major character (like usual judging by your posts in Nagi no Asukara forum) and tried to paint him as a cheap soap opera villain when the director of the show had already stated how he is truly and we have already seen him enough to have a decent grasp where they are going with him. If you feel attacked is because you insist to demonize a character for the sake of your OTP and because YOU blew on me when I simply corrected a fanart related commentary for no reason. Maybe are you upset nobody gives a damn to draw Inaho/princess? Seriously, what was your problem? First you assume as ‘fact’ (not a fact, by the way, buddy, but your interpretation) she didn’t have romantic interaction with him. As second fact you assume as your interpretation is that Slaine is in love with her, when he could just be devoted to her in a chaste way. All are your views and interpretations which other people don’t find facts. Just like you tried to color Tsumugu and Chisaki as "lol super platonic family" from her side until the show slapped you in the face with what to others was blatantly obvious. L-Ryoshi said: I don't tend to ship romance in mech shows (given that most of them are harems anyway), though... after your vehement reply, I think I'll make an exception and ship the pairing that you hate most, just for the fun of it. As if you didn’t ship it. Your obvious bias was showing in your earlier post, please stop trying to sound mature with your holier than thou attitude because it's not fooling anyone. You'll notice nobody was preachy or nasty until you reared to the thread with your snide remarks. If you actually think that most mecha are harem shows your ignorance of the mecha genre that hurts. Please name more than 3 mecha harems, Infinite Stratos aside. Inaho/Asselyum shippers try to sell this show as some love story between them and mean Antagonist Slaine (lol), except well you know, we were told that the three of them will work together toward a common goal from their respective positions that are being clearly established. Also Slaine's the opposite of possessive, jealous or evil, he's mean to be the nicer of the trio. Which means there can’t be this Evil Wicked Yandere Slaine OOC interpretation the obnoxious shippers like you have because it’s the only way for you to get your couple, it seems. There is certain way this could happen without disturbing the trio by revealing Slaine is related to her or something, no doubt a poor twist, but considering how identical he looks to the emperor and his mysterious father, it is not that far-fetched. Also, like I said, you assume his devotion to her is of romantic nature, which you took as 'fact'. As you assume survival for any of the was a fact or romance in general will happen. |
ThessAug 4, 2014 7:41 PM
| L-Ryoshi, I'm supporting you. All of comments on this thread is just SPECULATION. Nothing can be regarding as fact whatsoever, except what we saw on the screen. And yet, Thess appeares as he know everything about the anime marketing and Aniplex, but he doesn't show us any ACTUAL DATA. At least link a poll here to see which shipping is more popular. As for fan art, 80% of the fan arts ship PRincessXSlaine because of that "kissing" scene. Inaho and Princess haven't interacted that much. If a romantic plot happens between Inaho and Princess, I'm pretty sure that the percent will change drastically. But the truth is most anime don't give the f*** about fan opinions. They have the script already. All they do in the break is just polishing the animation. This is NOT fan service show. If they fix the script according to popular fandom, the anime will be no better than trash because it will ruin all the overall flow of the story. Especially not for some silly shipping. As for VVV, I think it has a good overall story with a good flow. Haruto dies not because of the popular poll. L-elf gets enough screen time and back story as he should have. Haruto's death and L-elf background story are foreshadowed in earlier episodes already. And L-Ryoshi is right again. Slaine cares deeply for the princess but she doesn't think of him even once. She doesn't even look at the pendant Slaine gives her. I don't see any sort of affection on the princess side. All what we should care about is what shown on the screen. Poster, fanart, manga? Meh. Even the magaka has his own shipping preference. he may draw his shipping as he like. But he is NOT the one writing the script. Sorry Thess, but you are just picking up random side materials and try to interpret them the way you want. |
Just_ChickenAug 4, 2014 7:50 PM
jzmagic said: My sixth sense tells me its going to be Inaho x Princess. I have a pretty high prediction rate when it comes to these things xD Lol You remind me of one of those couple compatibility machines. |
| (>'_')># ~Here's a waffle, please calm down... "See that? She's cute and popular. You could say that her milkshakes bring all the boys to the yard. But YOU club President... your milkshakes are wasted on you. In other words, you're wasteful." ~D-Frag (Best.Reference.Ever.) |
chickenonthepan said: As for fan art, 80% of the fan arts ship PRincessXSlaine because of that "kissing" scene. Um… It was like this since the beginning. chickenonthepan said: But the truth is most anime don't give the f*** about fan opinions. They have the script already. All they do in the break is just polishing the animation. This is NOT fan service show. If they fix the script according to popular fandom, the anime will be no better than trash because it will ruin all the overall flow of the story. Especially not for some silly shipping. Of course. If they have it all decided, explain why there is not a single official image with the Princess and Inaho if they are mean to be the show main couple? I am waiting. Because you know that's the norm. chickenonthepan said: As for VVV, I think it has a good overall story with a good flow. Haruto dies not because of the popular poll. L-elf gets enough screen time and back story as he should have. Haruto's death and L-elf background story are foreshadowed in earlier episodes already. That's wrong, the first half did not have the “they’ll lose their memories and die!” plot twist. This was added in the second half. In the first half, there was no indication of memory loss. If they had that decided, we would had it foreshadowed with L-Elf, idk, not recalling his parents because Haruto ate his runes. That was pretty sure added as excuse to drive Haruto into suicide ugh. chickenonthepan said: And L-Ryoshi is right again. Slaine cares deeply for the princess but she doesn't think of him even once. She doesn't even look at the pendant Slaine gives her. I don't see any sort of affection on the princess side. You know what else is right? She has no interest in hanging out with Inaho unless she can use him as tool to get to the UE headquarters. She does not spend time with him or wants to know him (Inko does). This indifference is mutual. Inaho so far doesn't seem to give a damn about her as person, only about her as tool to stop the war. Anyway, she has no reason to be worried. Slaine is not a soldier, he’s supposed to remain in the Count’s post and side. And she barely has screentime. Slaine, on the other hand, has reasons to be concerned about her since her life is in danger. This is basic common sense, because we're told they are "very close" by official sources. I am not even speaking of romance here. Once again, Slaine's feelings might not be romantic, they can be of reverence. |
ThessAug 4, 2014 7:58 PM
Thess said: chickenonthepan said: As for fan art, 80% of the fan arts ship PRincessXSlaine because of that "kissing" scene. Um… It was like this since the beginning. chickenonthepan said: But the truth is most anime don't give the f*** about fan opinions. They have the script already. All they do in the break is just polishing the animation. This is NOT fan service show. If they fix the script according to popular fandom, the anime will be no better than trash because it will ruin all the overall flow of the story. Especially not for some silly shipping. Of course. If they have it all decided, explain why there not a single official image with the Princess and Inaho if they are mean to be the show main couple? I am waiting. chickenonthepan said: As for VVV, I think it has a good overall story with a good flow. Haruto dies not because of the popular poll. L-elf gets enough screen time and back story as he should have. Haruto's death and L-elf background story are foreshadowed in earlier episodes already. That's wrong, the first half did not have the “they’ll lose their memories and die!” plot twist. This was added in the second half. In the first half, there was no indication of memory loss. If they had that decided, we would had it foreshadowed with L-Elf, idk, not recalling his parents because Haruto ate his runes. That was pretty sure added as excuse to drive Haruto into suicide ugh. chickenonthepan said: And L-Ryoshi is right again. Slaine cares deeply for the princess but she doesn't think of him even once. She doesn't even look at the pendant Slaine gives her. I don't see any sort of affection on the princess side. You know what else is right? She has no interest in hanging out with Inaho unless she can use him as tool to get to the UE headquarters. She does not spend time with him or wants to know him (Inko does). This indifference is mutual. Inaho so far doesn't seem to give a damn about her as person, only about her as tool to stop the war. Anyway, she has no reason to be worried. Slaine is not a soldier, he’s supposed to remain in the Count’s post and side. And she barely has screentime. Slaine, on the other hand, has reasons to be concerned about her since her life is in danger. Really at the beginning? I'm pretty care about this show. And I can say that Slainexprincess fanart and shipping exploded after ep5. Before that, not really much. You want them to spoil the viewer? And please link an OFFICIAL image of PrincessxSlaine shipping here. (excluded that 'kissing" plz). I can't find any on Aldnoah Zero official website. VVV has all kind of unexpected plot twist everywhere. I often go "wtf" when watching it. So that plot twist is just 1 of many really. That why I said that there is NO affection on the Princess side. Inaho and Slaine are having equal chances. that aside, she does worry about Inaho when he is fighting Vlad. She even calls out his name. She sees Inaho more than a tool if I must say. But that's still pretty minor. I won't set my argument based on that. Think of it, the princess doesn't think about Slaine ONCE. So much for the person in love, isn't it? If you are far way from your lover and don't think of her once in a couple of days because "there is no reason to be worry", I suggest you reconsidering that you truly love her. |
Just_ChickenAug 4, 2014 8:19 PM
chickenonthepan said: Really at the beginning? I'm pretty care about this show. And I can say that Slainexprincess fanart and shipping exploded after ep5. Before that, not really much. Thank you for confirming you know nothing of the Japanese fandom. I didn’t have doubts, but this confirms you were not paying attention at all. here, not even all of the art because there’s some that’s embarrassing to post. There is also… 2 fanarts for all of you Inaho/Princess shippers. chickenonthepan said: You want them to spoil the viewer? And please link an OFFICIAL image of PrincessxSlaine shipping here. (excluded that 'kissing" plz). I can't find any on Aldnoah Zero official website. What? Romance in mecha is not treated as “spoiler” unless it’s the main point of the story (like in Macross). Also, did you miss the ending in episode four, too? Nah, I will not because you refuse to acknowledge the TWO manga shipping art-hint and the sketches from the character designer, I already posted in this forum. You shouldn’t be lazy. chickenonthepan said: That why I said that there is NO affection on the Princess side. Inaho and Slaine are having equal chances. that aside, she does worry about Inaho when he is fighting Vlad. She even calls out his name. She sees Inaho more than a tool if I must say. But that's still pretty minor. I won't set my argument based on that. LOL, so calling a name is now “romantic” but make-out meeting of fate is “platonic.” Seriously, what??? She blushed around Slaine. Not around Inaho. From my viewpoint, he is useful and an ally, but he’s not an interesting person to interact with. So she doesn’t, so far. Who can blame her when he barely has a personality? I am sure not many just want to stare blankly at. For the record, he’s seemly not interested either because he’s not seeking her out. Why are you assuming he’s into her romantically? Like why you are assuming Slaine's devotion is romantic? Later has higher chances to be, but I have no reason to believe Inaho is romantically interested in her at all. chickenonthepan said: Think of it, the princess doesn't think about Slaine ONCE. So much for the person in love, isn't it? Yeah, because she doesn’t think about anything. We aren’t getting her thoughts in the show. ;) chickenonthepan said: Poster, fanart, manga? Meh. Even the magaka has his own shipping preference. he may draw his shipping as he like. But he is NOT the one writing the script. Sorry Thess, but you are just picking up random side materials and try to interpret them the way you want. Yawn. Sure, let’s do this. In addition to visual cues from OFFICIAL material, let’s go to what we have now: She was in his room, dressed in provocative clothing late at night, blushing and invading his personal space until a chaperone arrived. She vowed she would carry his wish for peace and accepted his pendant. He blushed at her too and gave her a memento. Then they had a romantized meeting where they find out how to two kids had engaged in tongue action with sexualized angles for a contrived and unnecessary reason. Inaho has… nothing so far. Slaine romantic subtext: 2. Inaho romantic subtext: 0 |
| My prediction: Inaho: I'm sexually attracted to eggs. Asseylum: I'm dead before this show is over. Slaine: I will mourn my princess and then probably be considered a True Martian. Vers becomes a democracy after they realize they should stop roleplaying in the XXI century. |
Thess said: chickenonthepan said: Really at the beginning? I'm pretty care about this show. And I can say that Slainexprincess fanart and shipping exploded after ep5. Before that, not really much. Thank you for confirming you know nothing of the Japanese fandom. I didn’t have doubts, but this confirms you were not paying attention at all. here, not even all of the art because there’s some that’s embarrassing to post. There is also… 2 fanarts for all of you Inaho/Princess shippers. chickenonthepan said: You want them to spoil the viewer? And please link an OFFICIAL image of PrincessxSlaine shipping here. (excluded that 'kissing" plz). I can't find any on Aldnoah Zero official website. What? Romance in mecha is not treated as “spoiler” unless it’s the main point of the story (like in Macross). Also, did you miss the ending in episode four, too? Nah, I will not because you refuse to acknowledge the TWO manga shipping art-hint and the sketches from the character designer, I already posted in this forum. You shouldn’t be lazy. chickenonthepan said: That why I said that there is NO affection on the Princess side. Inaho and Slaine are having equal chances. that aside, she does worry about Inaho when he is fighting Vlad. She even calls out his name. She sees Inaho more than a tool if I must say. But that's still pretty minor. I won't set my argument based on that. LOL, so calling a name is now “romantic” but make-out meeting of fate is “platonic.” Seriously, what??? She blushed around Slaine. Not around Inaho. From my viewpoint, he is useful and an ally, but he’s not an interesting person to interact with. So she doesn’t, so far. Who can blame her when he barely has a personality? I am sure not many just want to stare blankly at. For the record, he’s seemly not interested either because he’s not seeking her out. Why are you assuming he’s into her romantically? Like why you are assuming Slaine's devotion is romantic? Later has higher chances to be, but I have no reason to believe Inaho is romantically interested in her at all. chickenonthepan said: Think of it, the princess doesn't think about Slaine ONCE. So much for the person in love, isn't it? Yeah, because she doesn’t think about anything. We aren’t getting her thoughts in the show. ;) chickenonthepan said: Poster, fanart, manga? Meh. Even the magaka has his own shipping preference. he may draw his shipping as he like. But he is NOT the one writing the script. Sorry Thess, but you are just picking up random side materials and try to interpret them the way you want. Yawn. Sure, let’s do this. In addition to visual cues from OFFICIAL material, let’s go to what we have now: She was in his room, dressed in provocative clothing late at night, blushing and invading his personal space until a chaperone arrived. She vowed she would carry his wish for peace and accepted his pendant. He blushed at her too and gave her a memento. Then they had a romantized meeting where they find out how to two kids had engaged in tongue action with sexualized angles for a contrived and unnecessary reason. Inaho has… nothing so far. Slaine romantic subtext: 2. Inaho romantic subtext: 0 Animesuki is just 1 of many. And they are not really Japanese... The person who posted that may have much more interested in Slainxprincess shipping so he mainly searched more image about that shipping. Animesuki is not objective in the first place. If you can link me a Japanese popular poll, I will give up and admit my defeat. As I said, mangaka and character designer can be subjective. The moment of the kiss is "cute", even I think so too. It is not a surprise if the designer loves that moment and shows his art. No poster/image from the film producer has shipping in them. Inaho and Slaine are always shown in equal places. Oh, and can you screen shot the scene in ep4 you are talking about? I just see Inaho and Slain in the ending... Like I said, it is freaking MINOR. Because you said that Inaho is a tool for the princess, I must mention it to show you that he means more to her. If the romance is so important, why don't they make 1 scene of the princess caring about Slain. Simple: she hold the pendant murmuring: "Slain, what are you doing?". Take just 3 secs, yes.? If you want to go into some minor detail like that, here I go: - she is blushing because of excitement, just like after she saved Slaine. She mainly talk about how curious she is about Earth. And that's not Slain' room. It's more of a lobby. And that's what the princess usually wear at home, not some "provocative" clothes. See the similar dress in their meeting scene? - Next, the scene of the pendant. She is not even blushing when holding Slain's hand and receiving the pendant from him. Only Slain has some notable reaction - After that, on the personal talk with Eldetturio, she only refers him as a person from Earth. No affection or whatever. - Inaho side, remember in ep3 when she looking down from the bridge and smiling. That's one of the cutest scene lol. I think it's still 0-0 atm. Maybe Slaine has a better start as her friend. All i can say for now is that there is no indication of the shipping whatsoever. It's just fans who interpret the way they want. I don't even try to ship InahoxPrincess, just say that Inaho has better chance because he will have more time interacting with her now. And I doubt romance will play important part in this show. |
Just_ChickenAug 4, 2014 9:13 PM
| It was me who shared the fanart and I shared it all except the porn involving faceless men I don’t save, yuri and BL. They are all from Japanese websites. So nope. I only link them to prove how wrong you are about the number of them which you refuse to acknowledge when they are all uploaded. That is why I said, it was 80% of the fanart in a tongue in cheek comment to that other person. Why the hell are you disputing this? Don’t move goal post, you said there wasn’t many until last episode, I proved you wrong. So suck it up and accept you were wrong and never bothered to browse a Japanese website. Manga it’s official and sanctioned. Less biased than you who post in MAL and approved as a cover and product that is considered the adaptation (one) and another Slaine’s backstory. What do I mean about the ending? I mean this., of course. You know ED/OP in mecha have messages of who are mean to be perceived as couples, right? Since you watched Valvrave recently, you surely remember that Saki and Shoko hovered Haruto and L-Elf had Lieselotte in two of them. Inaho doesn’t get a girl, maybe he’s meant to be asexual. Inaho is a tool, trusted ally at best. Nothing else, nothing more. But I'm sure they'll become at least friends. chickenonthepan said: If the romance is so important, why don't they make 1 scene of the princess caring about Slain. Simple: she hold the pendant murmuring: "Slain, what are you doing?". Take just 3 secs, yes.? Romance isn’t important, nobody here even said that, if you check my predictions, I foresee she’ll die. What I said is that the Asselyum/Slaine had actual official art, massive fanart support and actual romantic subtext scenes. In fact, the only one who thinks this is important is the ones who regard it as a “spoiler” or think they’ll derail a protagonist characterization to turn them into wicked witch soap opera villain which serves no reason or purpose to the story other than further their OTP agenda. Asseylum barely gets screentime (Inko seems to have more screentime so far), she gets no thoughts at all, so you don’t know what she’s thinking. She’s also very sensible to keep her priorities straight, Slaine, as far as she knows (whether she likes him romantically or not) isn’t in danger. Her appearances are all just limited to reactionary things about plot. Slaine thinks about her because she’s in danger and is involved in his plot (and we have his introspection unlike the other characters sadly). Which again doesn’t mean he’s in love with her, even if it’s a likely possibility. chickenonthepan said: If you want to go into some minor detail like that, here I go: - she is blushing because of excitement, just like after she saved Slaine. She mainly talk about how curious she is about Earth. And that's not Slain' room. It's more of a lobby. And that's what the princess usually wear at home, not some "provocative" clothes. See the similar dress in their meeting scene? She’s excited to shoot a gun, but she doesn’t blush about that. I’ll say that, when she’s relaxed, she’s giddy and smitten around Slaine. It’s part of Slaine’s chambers. She has a similar one in hers (as show in a promotional image and the secret file books) with an identical view to Earth, yet she chose to be there in his instead. At late night hours. With him. She averted her eyes when she was scrutinized. No, it isn’t, it’s midriff-leg-showing wasn’t what she was wearing at least in the meeting. To me, it’s obvious romantic subtext because it’s played with certain intimacy and “interruption”. Does this mean they’ll be a couple? Nope. chickenonthepan said: - Next, the scene of the pendant. She is not even blushing when holding Slain's hand and receiving the pendant from him. Only Slain has some notable reaction Because Slaine blushes a lot, unlike her. He’s also blushing when he’s distressed. Anyway, she’s the one giving reassurances and hold his hands, making a vow to him. She acts more formal, but still very casual, because Eldetturio is around. chickenonthepan said: - After that, on the personal talk with Eldetturio, she only refers him as a person from Earth. No affection or whatever. She calls him by his name and questions why she looks down at him because he’s a Terran. Then when she worries about the mission, she grips tightly Slaine’s memento. Also, they are supposed to be “very close” officially, but unlike Inko-Inaho, they don’t get the official label of “friends”. I wonder why? (Hint for you: because they don’t want it to label it friendship). chickenonthepan said: - Inaho side, remember in ep3 when she looking down from the bridge and smiling. That's one of the cutest scene lol. Eh… she’s smiling without blushing because a bad guy was defeated? How is that romantic? She also smiled at Rayet. She’s pretty much putting Rayet and Inaho in a similar level. In fact, it’s interesting her eyes shine and blushes when she’s excited and around Slaine alone (of the two scenes they are in fact alone) but in other circumstances, she doesn’t have this same expression, huh? Score is still 2-0. With the princess giving him a romantic troupe meeting accompanied with a soft background music of a typical meeting of fate in Mars. Unless you are naïve to believe that meeting was absolutely necessary and not just to establish the obvious romantic subtext? chickenonthepan said: -All i can say for now is that there is no indication of the shipping whatsoever. It's just fans who interpret the way they want. I don't even try to ship InahoxPrincess, just say that Inaho has better chance because he will have more time interacting with her now. No, I can say Slaine has indication of romantic subtext, Inaho doesn’t (yet). But I’ll say something else, I frankly doubt anyone will be ending up together, I am pointing out that there is legitimate romantic-flavored scenes that are not so ambiguous. This doesn’t mean it’s true love or anything or there will be wedding bells tolling. A funeral march is more likely to happen. But you can’t disregard the bias the show has given to a side and not to the other so far. |
ThessAug 4, 2014 9:53 PM
| Well, ok, ship them as you want. all of this is your personal thought. I doubt there will many people agree with you on those 2-0 subplot you mentioned. Those are all what friends do. I have some female friends too and they enjoy teasing around like that. I'm pretty sure that's a lobby. I don't see any romance plot here. Just don't regard them as fact so that your shipping is true. Still, link me some official arts of this shipping. I will appreciate that. Put manga cover (yes, cover) aside plz. It would be best if you link me a large image or a poster. And the scene in ep4, screen shot it plz. I just watched the episode again and I still didn't see what you saw. And I think that you gave up on persuading me about Japanese preference. Good then. |
| The ship to ship combat here makes the battle of Midway look like some pretty pussy shit. |
chickenonthepan said: Well, ok, ship them as you want. all of this is your personal thought. I doubt there will many people agree with you on those 2-0 subplot you mentioned. Those are all what friends do. I have some female friends too and they enjoy teasing around like that. I'm pretty sure that's a lobby. I don't see any romance plot here. Just don't regard them as fact so that your shipping is true. . You do keep in mind two things: 1. They aren't labelled as friends by the official source (they just say they are very close to each other). 2. They still do those scenes. Romantic subtext exists, but no one said they are dating, obviously they couldn't even if they were to have feelings (racist, class differences, etc). chickenonthepan said: Still, link me some official arts of this shipping. I will appreciate that. Put manga cover (yes, cover) aside plz. It would be best if you link me a large image or a poster. Manga cover (official manga), manga panel (for Slaine’s manga as teaser). Asseylum in Slaine’s veranda (in OST cover, still associated with things-Slaine, not Inaho’s) which you can find in the website. There are no posters except one with the three protagonists that is rather ugly. I am sure you have see it, the asymmetrical Princess between Slaine and Inaho, but closer to Slaine which leaves a horrible gap. Takako Shimura (the anime character designer) sketches: http://imgur.com/iFE6y27 http://imgur.com/qvq4PcV http://i.imgur.com/avlGIwy.png Asseylum doesn’t feature with Inaho, except in the ones she’s with Slaine and usually closer to Slaine (that awful poster) or looking at Slaine’s direction as that sketch show it or holding Slaine's memento (the manga cover), which seems to be very... consistent? chickenonthepan said: And the scene in ep4, screen shot it plz. I just watched the episode again and I still didn't see what you saw. I just linked you the screenshots. Do you want more birds for Inaho? If not here is Asseylum with her formal dress shape with Slaine: http://i.imgur.com/9NO28Fh.jpg And here morphing with her hair down donning her usual outfit front/back: http://i.imgur.com/DSotDUm.jpg (final one is the one I posted early). Inaho gets flying birds. Slaine gets morphing princess in the ending. Also it’s pretty obvious what they prefer. They all cheered and wwwwwww in nico when the kiss happened in the stream. Maybe you should try it next time. |
ThessAug 4, 2014 10:23 PM
Thess said: chickenonthepan said: Well, ok, ship them as you want. all of this is your personal thought. I doubt there will many people agree with you on those 2-0 subplot you mentioned. Those are all what friends do. I have some female friends too and they enjoy teasing around like that. I'm pretty sure that's a lobby. I don't see any romance plot here. Just don't regard them as fact so that your shipping is true. . 1. They aren't labelled as friends by the official source. 2. They still do those scenes. Romantic subtext exists, but no one said they are dating, obviously they can't even if they have feelings (racist, class differences, etc). chickenonthepan said: Still, link me some official arts of this shipping. I will appreciate that. Put manga cover (yes, cover) aside plz. It would be best if you link me a large image or a poster. Manga cover (official manga), manga panel (for Slaine’s manga as teaser). Asseylum in Slaine’s veranda (in OST cover, still associated with things-Slaine, not Inaho’s) which you can find in the website. There are no posters except one with the three protagonists that is rather ugly. I am sure you have see it, the asymmetrical Princess between Slaine and Inaho, but closer to Slaine which leaves a horrible gap. Takako Shimura (the anime character designer) sketches: http://imgur.com/iFE6y27 http://imgur.com/qvq4PcV http://i.imgur.com/avlGIwy.png Asseylum doesn’t feature with Inaho, except in the ones she’s with Slaine and usually closer to Slaine (that awful poster) or looking at Slaine’s direction as that sketch show it. chickenonthepan said: And the scene in ep4, screen shot it plz. I just watched the episode again and I still didn't see what you saw. I just linked you the screenshots. Do you want more birds for Inaho? If not here is Asseylum with her formal dress shape with Slaine: http://i.imgur.com/9NO28Fh.jpg And here morphing with her hair down donning her usual outfit front/back: http://i.imgur.com/DSotDUm.jpg (final one is the one I posted early). Inaho gets flying birds. Slaine gets morphing princess in the ending. Also it’s pretty obvious what they prefer. They all cheered and wwwwwww in nico when the kiss happened in the stream. Maybe you should try it next time. Like I said, I don't regard manga cover as official. The bonus manga is about Slain, and it's about his time with the princess, I'm sure that manga panel is designed for that purpose. We will have bonus manga for the princess and Marito too, so Marito is the loved character now? And your interpretation on the OST cover is so funny lol. OMG, you call that romance implication? Who ever pay attention to that? I thought it was a clear picture lol. If you want some thought, here go: - All what Slaine did until now is to protect the princess. The princess is his main concern. - Inaho is having a free mind right now. He has so many possibility as a free bird. It's totally a new life for him I take that as the reflection of their mind. But really, after watching so many anime, I don't take opening/ending scene as any implication of the story. Note that in the opening, they are pretty much equal. No, even I take that scene as cute. We saw that in the episode preview, ofc we will expect that scene to come. That proves nothing really. I think even an Inaho-Princess shipper wouldn't scream "nooooo". They were preparing for that. |
Just_ChickenAug 4, 2014 10:42 PM
chickenonthepan said: Like I said, I don't regard manga cover as official. The bonus manga is about Slain, and it's about his time with the princess, I'm sure that manga panel is designed for that purpose. We will have bonus manga for the princess and Marito too, so Marito is the loved character now? And your interpretation on the OST cover is so funny lol. …You don’t regard the official manga as official? Okay. Whatever you say. I don’t know if you’re trying to be foolish, until you actually get a manga with Marito and the Princess, please let me know? Until then: deal with it. chickenonthepan said: OMG, you call that romance implication? Who ever pay attention to that? I thought it was a clear picture lol. If you want some thought, here go: - All what Slaine did until now is to protect the princess. The princess is his main concern. - Inaho is having a free mind right now. He has so many possibility as a free bird. It's totally a new life for him. Or you know, Inaho fights for Earth and not the Princess. The Earth flag has a bird and it’s framed as coming out of the shape flag. Slaine fights for the Princess. Still visual cue and shipping goes to him. Inaho's not concerned about a woman. And this trolls people who wrongly believed Inaho actually thought highly on Asseylum’s life as person and not just as a tool for world peace after episode 4. He was acting logical again. chickenonthepan said: No, even I take that scene as cute. We saw that in the episode preview, ofc we will expect that scene to come. That proves nothing really. They were cheering for them as a couple. Just as you know, Inaho/Asseylum have just three fanarts (two of those as a joke/crack couple) and Slaine/Asseylum has over a hundred (some of those with over a thousand of favorites). |
ThessAug 4, 2014 10:53 PM
Thess said: chickenonthepan said: Like I said, I don't regard manga cover as official. The bonus manga is about Slain, and it's about his time with the princess, I'm sure that manga panel is designed for that purpose. We will have bonus manga for the princess and Marito too, so Marito is the loved character now? And your interpretation on the OST cover is so funny lol. …You don’t regard the official manga as official? Okay. Whatever you say. I don’t know if you’re trying to be foolish, until you actually get a manga with Marito and the Princess, please let me know? Until then: deal with it. chickenonthepan said: OMG, you call that romance implication? Who ever pay attention to that? I thought it was a clear picture lol. If you want some thought, here go: - All what Slaine did until now is to protect the princess. The princess is his main concern. - Inaho is having a free mind right now. He has so many possibility as a free bird. It's totally a new life for him. Or you know, Inaho fights for Earth and not the Princess. The Earth flag has a bird and it’s framed as coming out of the shape flag. Slaine fights for the Princess. Still visual cue and shipping goes to him. Inaho's not concerned about a woman. And this trolls people who wrongly believed Inaho actually thought highly on Asseylum’s life as person and not just as a tool for world peace after episode 4. He was acting logical again. chickenonthepan said: No, even I take that scene as cute. We saw that in the episode preview, ofc we will expect that scene to come. That proves nothing really. Doesn’t mean it’s not a romantic meeting classic scene because you “expected” it. Romance is not a “spoiler”, what did I tell you? It seems like you are taking romance seriously because you want a pairing that so far has not gotten any attention by the official sources and by the Japanese fanbase. Romantic subtext can't be more in your face when it involves kids sucking face after one has a rocket randomly crashing in middle of a gorgeous romantic-like abandoned setting. I said I just don't take the "cover" of the manga as official. The artist can draw everything he likes on the cover. lol So you agree with my thought then. Thank you. I never said that Inaho expressed any affection for the princess, period. And because Slaine fight for the princess, he should get her. Err, how about no? It's not some beautiful fairy tail. Just my preference. At least I don't take any sources and interpret them to fit my preference. And I don't see any Japaneses poll so... I see that scene as a plot to explain why Slaine is so obsessed with the princess. I can tell that he loves her since that moment. But I don't see any affection on the princess side. I can tell that they are really close friend. Slaine maybe the only friend the princess have. But as of now, it stops at that. As long as the feeling is not mutual, can't call it an actual romance. Sorry but I think I have more objective view than you do. That's my thought. You are free to trust in your shipping. Maybe you will be right, maybe not. I will just see what happen. |
Just_ChickenAug 4, 2014 11:14 PM
| 1. The cover is official as any poster, because it's published by official sources that approve it. You don't get to choose it: Aniplex does. ;) 2. I never said he should "get her", I said he fights for her, he gets the shipping implication because he's fighting for her while Inaho doesn't. Period (as a sidenote, even the cesspool as 2ch immediately said Slaine and Asseylum are the "couple" after that ending, you really don't know how how OP/ED works in mecha, right? And this was in Inaho's fans character thread *g* They got the memo it was a shipping flag - but again, most of them seem to root for Inko/Inaho, so maybe it's their shipping bias). 3. Except it's not framed as his flashback, it's a neutral glimpse of the past. As long love might exist, you might call it romantic subtext. Something that's non-existent so far from the other "couple" (snort). 4. Stop calling Slaine her friend. He's not. When a character is a friend to another, it's specified by the official commentary and profile. See all of Inaho's classmates as example. If you want to be really "objective", stick to the official description that they have been "very close" since they were young and he is one of her educators. |
ThessAug 4, 2014 11:40 PM
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