lupadim said: jimbob1141 said: lupadim said: Nidalee said: I didn't say most powerful anyway, even though blackbeard is powerful. Blackbeards story was very well written, if you are basing your favorite villain on power levels then well.... BB's story well written? Wtfff. He killed an guy, ran away, made an crew and is shooting at others now. You should check Naraku's history. If that is how you perceive blackbeards story then you are a straight up retard. One piece spoilers below :) Honestly i don't even know what to say to someone who thinks blackbeards story is "killed some guy and ran away and is now shooting at people" you don'y exactly need to be a genius to understand blackbeards story >.> one piece doesn't exactly have the greatest plot ever, but blackbeards story was damn good |
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yhunata said: That is what happens when a weak-willed person gets the Death Note. Light going crazy had nothing to do with his will. Ryuk even acknowledges that Light is the strongest willed person he's seen. That even a normal willed person would've committed suicide within a day. This is how I remember Light- |
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Shrabster said: yhunata said: That is what happens when a weak-willed person gets the Death Note. Light going crazy had nothing to do with his will. Ryuk even acknowledges that Light is the strongest willed person he's seen. That even a normal willed person would've committed suicide within a day. This is how I remember Light- |
Shrabster said: This is how I remember Light- How exactly does that translate to having a weak will? You're gonna tell me he didn't have a strong will because he |
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yhunata said: Shrabster said: This is how I remember Light- How exactly does that translate to having a weak will? You're gonna tell me he didn't have a strong will because he |
ShrabsterApr 27, 2013 2:57 AM
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yhunata said: Shrabster said: Well, I wouldn't necessarily call him weak willed and I agree that calling him completely weak willed would be a stretch, but stubbornness =/= strong will, and he was only strong willed when he was seemingly winning or had an advantage, so I hesitate to call him strong willed. |
ShrabsterApr 27, 2013 4:13 AM
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| Uchiha Madara, i like his idea that as long as there are winners then there will be losers and hate is born from love like the love of maintaining peace causes wars, his trying to create a dream world or The Matrix where everybody's wish can come true although the only problem is that his gonna control it so his a dictator |
Mr7Beans said: Cell from Dragon Ball.. this Gohan going SSJ2 one of the most memorable moments i've seen in Anime anyway |
Shrabster said: Well, I wouldn't necessarily call him weak willed and I agree that calling him completely weak willed would be a stretch, but stubbornness =/= strong will, and he was only strong willed when he was seemingly winning or had an advantage, so I hesitate to call him strong willed. He's more than normal willed, at the very least. Ryuk stated that a normal human would lose his mind within days of attaining the Death Note, so Light definitely isn't a normal-willed person. So, he's either strong-willed or somewhere in between. Also, I realise I haven't posted my take on this thread yet. Quite easy. Yagami Light. And no, it's not his will, not his smartness that raked me in. It's the character. Light had a conviction which he desperately wanted to bring out to the world even before attaining the Death Note. This eventually leads him to becoming Kira and creating the most unorthodox, most gripping battle I've ever seen. Of course, Lawliet also deserves credit for that, but he wouldn't have been as awesome without Light and vice versa. |
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| I'll second Cell as well, he was BA too. |
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yhunata said: Shrabster said: Well, I wouldn't necessarily call him weak willed and I agree that calling him completely weak willed would be a stretch, but stubbornness =/= strong will, and he was only strong willed when he was seemingly winning or had an advantage, so I hesitate to call him strong willed. He's more than normal willed, at the very least. Ryuk stated that a normal human would lose his mind within days of attaining the Death Note, so Light definitely isn't a normal-willed person. So, he's either strong-willed or somewhere in between. But he did lose his mind! |
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lupadim said: yhunata said: Shrabster said: Well, I wouldn't necessarily call him weak willed and I agree that calling him completely weak willed would be a stretch, but stubbornness =/= strong will, and he was only strong willed when he was seemingly winning or had an advantage, so I hesitate to call him strong willed. He's more than normal willed, at the very least. Ryuk stated that a normal human would lose his mind within days of attaining the Death Note, so Light definitely isn't a normal-willed person. So, he's either strong-willed or somewhere in between. But he did lose his mind! How the fuck does any of that translate to him being weak-willed? Admit it, you're just mad because his actions and thoughts goes against yours and since you're right, he's wrong. |
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yhunata said: lupadim said: yhunata said: Shrabster said: Well, I wouldn't necessarily call him weak willed and I agree that calling him completely weak willed would be a stretch, but stubbornness =/= strong will, and he was only strong willed when he was seemingly winning or had an advantage, so I hesitate to call him strong willed. He's more than normal willed, at the very least. Ryuk stated that a normal human would lose his mind within days of attaining the Death Note, so Light definitely isn't a normal-willed person. So, he's either strong-willed or somewhere in between. But he did lose his mind! How the fuck does any of that translate to him being weak-willed? Admit it, you're just mad because his actions and thoughts goes against yours and since you're right, he's wrong. What the fuck? How can someone that wants to be an god just because has a note, cries when is shooted and curses everyone when is losing be called strong-willed? Are you calling him strong-willed because he killed people? I give up, you ran out of arguments and now is using the good and old "I am right and you are wrong so shut up now I'm going to cry at my corner". Geez. |
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lupadim said: yhunata said: lupadim said: yhunata said: Shrabster said: Well, I wouldn't necessarily call him weak willed and I agree that calling him completely weak willed would be a stretch, but stubbornness =/= strong will, and he was only strong willed when he was seemingly winning or had an advantage, so I hesitate to call him strong willed. He's more than normal willed, at the very least. Ryuk stated that a normal human would lose his mind within days of attaining the Death Note, so Light definitely isn't a normal-willed person. So, he's either strong-willed or somewhere in between. But he did lose his mind! How the fuck does any of that translate to him being weak-willed? Admit it, you're just mad because his actions and thoughts goes against yours and since you're right, he's wrong. What the fuck? How can someone that wants to be an god just because has a note, cries when is shooted and curses everyone when is losing be called strong-willed? Are you calling him strong-willed because he killed people? I give up, you ran out of arguments and now is using the good and old "I am right and you are wrong so shut up now I'm going to cry at my corner". Geez. What the fuck? How does having bad ideas equate to a person having bad will? Please, for the sake of God, go learn some English first. |
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yhunata said: lupadim said: yhunata said: lupadim said: yhunata said: Shrabster said: Well, I wouldn't necessarily call him weak willed and I agree that calling him completely weak willed would be a stretch, but stubbornness =/= strong will, and he was only strong willed when he was seemingly winning or had an advantage, so I hesitate to call him strong willed. He's more than normal willed, at the very least. Ryuk stated that a normal human would lose his mind within days of attaining the Death Note, so Light definitely isn't a normal-willed person. So, he's either strong-willed or somewhere in between. But he did lose his mind! How the fuck does any of that translate to him being weak-willed? Admit it, you're just mad because his actions and thoughts goes against yours and since you're right, he's wrong. What the fuck? How can someone that wants to be an god just because has a note, cries when is shooted and curses everyone when is losing be called strong-willed? Are you calling him strong-willed because he killed people? I give up, you ran out of arguments and now is using the good and old "I am right and you are wrong so shut up now I'm going to cry at my corner". Geez. What the fuck? How does having bad ideas equate to a person having bad will? Please, for the sake of God, go learn some English first. Now you are using my grammar as an argument. Light was more strong-willed than you certainly. And you has to be EXTREMELY weak-willed to have a waker will than Light's. |
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lupadim said: yhunata said: lupadim said: yhunata said: lupadim said: yhunata said: Shrabster said: Well, I wouldn't necessarily call him weak willed and I agree that calling him completely weak willed would be a stretch, but stubbornness =/= strong will, and he was only strong willed when he was seemingly winning or had an advantage, so I hesitate to call him strong willed. He's more than normal willed, at the very least. Ryuk stated that a normal human would lose his mind within days of attaining the Death Note, so Light definitely isn't a normal-willed person. So, he's either strong-willed or somewhere in between. But he did lose his mind! How the fuck does any of that translate to him being weak-willed? Admit it, you're just mad because his actions and thoughts goes against yours and since you're right, he's wrong. What the fuck? How can someone that wants to be an god just because has a note, cries when is shooted and curses everyone when is losing be called strong-willed? Are you calling him strong-willed because he killed people? I give up, you ran out of arguments and now is using the good and old "I am right and you are wrong so shut up now I'm going to cry at my corner". Geez. What the fuck? How does having bad ideas equate to a person having bad will? Please, for the sake of God, go learn some English first. Now you are using my grammar as an argument. Light was more strong-willed than you certainly. And you has to be EXTREMELY weak-willed to have a waker will than Light's. I'm not using your grammar as an argument. I'm using your incapability to understand words as an argument. You don't understand what being weak-willed is at all. Luffy went crazy after waking up at the Isle of Women when you-know-what happened at Marineford. But hey, he's from One Piece and he doesn't kill people, so he's not weak-willed, right? |
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yhunata said: lupadim said: yhunata said: lupadim said: yhunata said: lupadim said: yhunata said: Shrabster said: Well, I wouldn't necessarily call him weak willed and I agree that calling him completely weak willed would be a stretch, but stubbornness =/= strong will, and he was only strong willed when he was seemingly winning or had an advantage, so I hesitate to call him strong willed. He's more than normal willed, at the very least. Ryuk stated that a normal human would lose his mind within days of attaining the Death Note, so Light definitely isn't a normal-willed person. So, he's either strong-willed or somewhere in between. But he did lose his mind! How the fuck does any of that translate to him being weak-willed? Admit it, you're just mad because his actions and thoughts goes against yours and since you're right, he's wrong. What the fuck? How can someone that wants to be an god just because has a note, cries when is shooted and curses everyone when is losing be called strong-willed? Are you calling him strong-willed because he killed people? I give up, you ran out of arguments and now is using the good and old "I am right and you are wrong so shut up now I'm going to cry at my corner". Geez. What the fuck? How does having bad ideas equate to a person having bad will? Please, for the sake of God, go learn some English first. Now you are using my grammar as an argument. Light was more strong-willed than you certainly. And you has to be EXTREMELY weak-willed to have a waker will than Light's. I'm not using your grammar as an argument. I'm using your incapability to understand words as an argument. You don't understand what being weak-willed is at all. Luffy went crazy after waking up at the Isle of Women when you-know-what happened at Marineford. But hey, he's from One Piece and he doesn't kill people, so he's not weak-willed, right? Of course Luffy went crazy; Hes brother DIED. But well, when things are going bad for him, he doesn't started crying and such. Instead, he solves the problem with intelligence and without screaming like a bitch. |
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| Souther from Fist of the North Star. His fight with Kenshiro at the pyramid was epic, he was a completely unconventional opponent, and even Raoh respected him. He's honestly more of a big bad than Raoh was and felt motivated to do what he did while Raoh was just sort of in it for the lulz. |
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| Stop with those quote towers... Light wasn't weak willed his will was very strong at least when he was winning. And there is more to good villains than how strong or weak their will is... |
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lupadim said: yhunata said: lupadim said: Did you just call Light stupid? Also, I've already had this same damn conversation with Shrabster who actually understood what I was trying to say. So, I'm just gonna link you to that and be done with it (besides, Liverpool's games starting. I don't have time to debate with you). http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=591713&show=120 Starting post no 132 |
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lupadim said: yhunata said: lupadim said: Um, lets backtrack to the scene of blackbeard rolling on the ground in pain. He stands back up, picks luffy up and slams him into ground, luffy then proceeds to also roll around on the ground in pain. Blackbeards deep breathing&sweating is because he's kinda out of shape and middleaged.. he's got muscle but he's also fat.. I'm not sure where you're getting this whole "crying" thing from |
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lupadim said: yhunata said: lupadim said: By the way, you're conflating universal trauma with lack of a strong will. Try again, or I move everyone to respond stupidly to you. Again. |
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| Light had a strong will, a very strong will. Just because you disagree with his killings doesn't make it a weak will. |
| sexual incest in nisomonogatari - no one bats an eye romance incest in SAO - everyone loses their minds |
| Sekai from school days. That was one manipulative evil bitch. |
Ghostony said: Light had a strong will, a very strong will. Just because you disagree with his killings doesn't make it a weak will. Everyone, attention! New definition of strong will! The guy that is the biggest villain in story of anime and with the biggest will is going to show you how to have a strong will! I hope all anime characters can be like that. |
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lupadim said: Ghostony said: Light had a strong will, a very strong will. Just because you disagree with his killings doesn't make it a weak will. Everyone, attention! New definition of strong will! The guy that is the biggest villain in story of anime and with the biggest will is going to show you how to have a strong will! I hope all anime characters can be like that. I don't really get what you're trying to say. That he got emotional means he has a weak will? He never gave up on his goals. |
GhostonyApr 27, 2013 9:48 AM
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| I don't get why some you are trying to get in a serious argument against Lupadim that's not possible he is always right so there isn't much of an argument there. |
Arararraragi-kun said: I don't get why some you are trying to get in a serious argument against Lupadim that's not possible he is always right so there isn't much of an argument there. |
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| After thinking a while: Yagami Light is not weak willed. He is NORMAL willed. But he is definitely not strong-willed and not even close to someone that is close to being close to being the best villain in anime history. |
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lupadim said: After thinking a while: Yagami Light is not weak willed. He is NORMAL willed. But he is definitely not strong-willed and not even close to someone that is close to being close to being the best villain in anime history. I think you should re-watch death note, he's far from weak willed or normal willed. |
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lupadim said: After thinking a while: Yagami Light is not weak willed. He is NORMAL willed. But he is definitely not strong-willed and not even close to someone that is close to being close to being the best villain in anime history. A normal willed person would had thrown away the death note the moment he/she realized it was real. |
| Bradley (FMA: B!) God Enel (One Piece) Perfect Cell (DBZ) Hasn't really been any other shounen villains I can think of that particularly impressed me, unless you consider Vegeta from DBZ as one. |
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IntervisioN said: lupadim said: After thinking a while: Yagami Light is not weak willed. He is NORMAL willed. But he is definitely not strong-willed and not even close to someone that is close to being close to being the best villain in anime history. A normal willed person would had thrown away the death note the moment he/she realized it was real. No she wouldn't. Read in "Casual Discussion" section my topic about if killing is right. More than half said they would kill criminals if they had the perfect chance. Light was just one of them. |
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| Perfect Cell - DBZ (he was a str8 up badass, and he was the first and only character I liked because of their cockyness) or Medusa - Soul Eater (another badass, I also loved her character design) |
DaxterAttanoApr 27, 2013 11:15 AM
lupadim said: IntervisioN said: lupadim said: After thinking a while: Yagami Light is not weak willed. He is NORMAL willed. But he is definitely not strong-willed and not even close to someone that is close to being close to being the best villain in anime history. A normal willed person would had thrown away the death note the moment he/she realized it was real. No she wouldn't. Read in "Casual Discussion" section my topic about if killing is right. More than half said they would kill criminals if they had the perfect chance. Light was just one of them. What do you think "will" means? It has nothing to do with morals |
| sexual incest in nisomonogatari - no one bats an eye romance incest in SAO - everyone loses their minds |
Oh lupadim ... you ... :* |
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lupadim said: What the fuck is "normal willed?" God damn, you're fucking stupid.After thinking a while: Yagami Light is not weak willed. He is NORMAL willed. But he is definitely not strong-willed and not even close to someone that is close to being close to being the best villain in anime history. |
I'm also filled with pure-hearted ulterior motives. |
lupadim said: No she wouldn't. Read in "Casual Discussion" section my topic about if killing is right. More than half said they would kill criminals if they had the perfect chance. Light was just one of them. Anyone can say anything on the internet where they'll be anonymous. Besides, it's one thing to talk and entirely different thing to act. Most of those guys would piss themselves and go into major depression from the thought of having killed a person. |
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Ghostony said: Light had a strong will, a very strong will. Just because you disagree with his killings doesn't make it a weak will. That isn't exactly the case either. |
ShrabsterApr 27, 2013 12:57 PM
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| King Bradley, completely and utterly legendary. One of the best villains of all time. Kid Buu purely due to how evil he is. Teleporting around destroying planets just to find 2 guys. Always loved Frieza. Always gotta say Aizen though he was a bit ruined with his butterfly transformation. Hisoka is pretty awesome too. Just wants to fight, nothing more. Akainu, I hate him but he's an awesomely good villain. |
| Damn, forgot all about Buu.. I like the fat one that turns everyone into chocolate |
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Neane1993 said: Ghostony said: Damn, forgot all about Buu.. I like the fat one that turns everyone into chocolate Did you say Chocolate? |
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