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May 20, 2014 7:23 AM

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The one and only Black Swordsman, Guts.
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GENERALxRAIDEN said:
The one and only Black Swordsman, Guts.


No, kirito is the real Black Swordsman. Guts is just a poser pretending to be the real black swordsman.
May 20, 2014 8:06 AM

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Aeonic said:
GENERALxRAIDEN said:
The one and only Black Swordsman, Guts.


No, kirito is the real Black Swordsman. Guts is just a poser pretending to be the real black swordsman.


Isn't Afro Samurai blacker
May 20, 2014 9:25 AM

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William Wallace
"I’m just watching a bad dream I never wake up from."
May 20, 2014 9:35 AM

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ElPysCongroo said:
Your all wrong Shiki Ryougi beats all (yes I know she uses a dagger, but that's because with a sword it would be to easy), she can cut literally anything and kill immortals.

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Actually really surprised no one mentioned her yet


Shiki is the most overrated character ive seen in terms of powah levels, she claims that she can kill inmortals yet she needed several strikes to kill a weak guy like Araya an she never showed impressive powers in any of the movies, Kami Tenchi can cut through the universe that she an the entire Nasuverse live way before she is even aware of his existence or use her eyes
May 20, 2014 9:39 AM
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Ichigo kurosaki obviously, the guy dual wields a kitchen knife and a greatsword
haha nah
its Gintoki sakata since im a gintama fan
I only read books i have already read
May 20, 2014 9:40 AM

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goldslash said:
That argument about Ichigo is invalid.

Guts is superhuman too,he is the only one who can held a very massive sword...
He also have that left cannon in the place of left hand...

He have a fucking stamina...Is a monster, can be considered superhuman.

Guts is but a mere human, and there are limits to what a single human can do. Ichigo is a god of death.
May 20, 2014 10:16 AM

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GUTS
Strength/Skills:
He defeated 100 men but nearly died in that fight while Mihawk defeated more than 100 men in a war and didn't even get a scratch.
Personality/Character:
Still Guts is incredible as well He doesn't give up despite all of the despair around him, and that willpower is different from the "heart-of-the-cards" willpower that 99% of shounen characters are given. So Ichigo is out of the question
Overall: Mihawk better swordsman

KIRITO
Strength/Skills:
Disappointed in people who even mention him in this thread. During anime, he defeated many people with mere 'power' but his swords skills were sloppy as ever. Also, his 'power' level was reset in the last episode so he is no match.
Personality/Character:
N/A
(Whatever I will say will be against his personality so I don't want to offend you)
Overall: Mihawk better swordsman

TRUNKS
He quited swordsmanship so he should not be considered a swordsman. (Remember his fight with Cell)

ZORO
Strength/Skills:
He is still far from surpassing Mihawk. He can't even use conquering's Haki yet.
Overall: Mihawk better swordsman

CHARACTERS FROM Rurouni Kenshin
If there is someone who has watched both One Piece (at least till 500ep) and Rurouni Kenshin, please tell if there is anyone who can defeat Mihawk...

But I have seen Rurouni Kenshin OVA. Himura, Kenshin is definitely one of the best swordsman. He deserves so many points for his outstanding character but I am afraid he is not so strong to beat Mihawk. (This is just from OVA)

Miyamoto, MUSHASHI
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SHANKS < MIHAWK proof:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NL8DTuFu8E

http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101124223306/onepiece/pt/images/5/56/42121043.gif

Something about Mihawk I'd like to share:


Conclusion:
He is definitely the best and strongest swordsman ever existed! I think I have given enough proof...
May 20, 2014 10:21 AM

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Dark_Chaos said:

Guts is but a mere human, and there are limits to what a single human can do. Ichigo is a god of death.


No human....Superhuman. The limit thing is pointless, Ichigo has his limits too. So do Mihawk.
Btw OP dindn't said anything not allowed superpower, cuz Mihawk has special eyes, not human...So everything is allowed.

They are not "mere humans", Sanji can kick ships, do u think he is "mere human"???

The question is, they can die? If yes, they are in the same level of comparision, no matter if is superhuman, or have superpower. The same way that we compare Zoro x AkM users.
May 20, 2014 10:36 AM
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goldslash said:
Dark_Chaos said:

Guts is but a mere human, and there are limits to what a single human can do. Ichigo is a god of death.


No human....Superhuman. The limit thing is pointless, Ichigo has his limits too. So do Mihawk.
Btw OP dindn't said anything not allowed superpower, cuz Mihawk has special eyes, not human...So everything is allowed.
Whoa, so Ichigo has limits.... :o

OnT:
I'd say Mihawk as well. Skill, power, charisma, he has it all. Mihawk doesn't have superpower eyes, iirc he just has exceptionally good eyesight that's all. Not sharingan/byakugan/rinnegan or the likes.
May 20, 2014 10:54 AM

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Erza Scarlet I dont know why I just think she is the best
I love Math equations and 2D, so deal with it.
May 20, 2014 10:56 AM

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alibaba kun cut them all his skills are da best u guys must delete this and remade with a voting poll
May 20, 2014 11:00 AM

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Miyamoto Musashi, guy fought against 70 yoshioka students and won, was nearly killed but he won
May 20, 2014 11:02 AM

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DNyt said:
Erza Scarlet I dont know why I just think she is the best


Erza? Nah, she would be roadkill if she ever met someone like Yama-jii from Bleach. I'd say she'd be about even with Renji.
May 20, 2014 11:07 AM

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kanno_ said:
Whoa, so Ichigo has limits.... :o


Well he can beat The Truth of FMA then?? I don't think so.
He's no omnipotent, btw, i dindn't complete the anime, but i know aizen is almost omnipotent.


OnT:
I'd say Mihawk as well. Skill, power, charisma, he has it all. Mihawk doesn't have superpower eyes, iirc he just has exceptionally good eyesight that's all. Not sharingan/byakugan/rinnegan or the likes.


Is nothing like that... But his eyes are special.
And Haki for you is no power?? So you are wrong.
Mihawk can use BnH, KnH, only not use the Haki of Kings...

So he has some skills to help and improve his sword skills, like Ichigo or another characters have.
May 20, 2014 11:09 AM

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Definitely Mihawk.

"Hurr durr, Kirito is faster"

DUDE. KIRITO IS NOT FASTER.

http://youtu.be/uj9hWWLMUOI?t=29s

Can Kirito slice a Buggy in 1000 different parts within 0.5 second?

Kirito dual wields. Nice. Zoro triple wields. And look at Zoro's fight with Mihawk:

http://youtu.be/rmHLTiX5paQ?t=2m8s

Verdict is given. Mihawk is the best.
May 20, 2014 11:11 AM

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Arlong is the best swordsman because Arlong is a shark.
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May 20, 2014 11:14 AM

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lupadim said:
Definitely Mihawk.

Ae vei...

I think Mihawk as better skills than Ichigo, but less power and much more less speed(physical)...
So he can't beat Ichigo...Can he??

And he dind't even see he full =//. Only we have the info that he draw with Shanks.
May 20, 2014 11:19 AM

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goldslash said:
lupadim said:
Definitely Mihawk.

Ae vei...

I think Mihawk as better skills than Ichigo, but less power and much more less speed(physical)...
So he can't beat Ichigo...Can he??

And he dind't even see he full =//. Only we have the info that he draw with Shanks.
Mihawk has the advantage of the Observation Haki. He would use that to predict Ichigo.
May 20, 2014 11:20 AM

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lupadim said:
Definitely Mihawk.

Killer Bee is definitely better than Mihawk though.
May 20, 2014 11:21 AM

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goldslash said:
Dark_Chaos said:

Guts is but a mere human, and there are limits to what a single human can do. Ichigo is a god of death.


No human....Superhuman. The limit thing is pointless, Ichigo has his limits too. So do Mihawk.
Btw OP dindn't said anything not allowed superpower, cuz Mihawk has special eyes, not human...So everything is allowed.

They are not "mere humans", Sanji can kick ships, do u think he is "mere human"???

The question is, they can die? If yes, they are in the same level of comparision, no matter if is superhuman, or have superpower. The same way that we compare Zoro x AkM users.

Can't exactly comment on the Manga as I haven't read it, but in the Anime, Guts was no superhuman. We all saw that tragic ending as


One Piece is a tricky ball to tackle. Seeing as how Sanji can somehow generate enough friction to put his leg on fire and put it out whenever he wants without injury along with the whole power thing with CP9, the people in that world couldn't possibly be human, so you can't exactly compare that to Berserk.
May 20, 2014 11:40 AM

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lupadim said:
goldslash said:
lupadim said:
Definitely Mihawk.

Ae vei...

I think Mihawk as better skills than Ichigo, but less power and much more less speed(physical)...
So he can't beat Ichigo...Can he??

And he dind't even see he full =//. Only we have the info that he draw with Shanks.
Mihawk has the advantage of the Observation Haki. He would use that to predict Ichigo.


He can't predict something he can't see. Or perhaps, he can predict, but still he can't have speed to react, to such an blitz attack.
Ichigo paws Mihawk... Just to mention i prefer Op(see my list rate), but Bleach world is overpower than Op world.

Btw, what is it? http://malcom.wikia.com/wiki/Lupadim

Dark_Chaos said:

Can't exactly comment on the Manga as I haven't read it, but in the Anime, Guts was no superhuman. We all saw that tragic ending as


Me too, only anime. Berserk had demons, beasts. Griffith is a demon, it's why he is powerless.
The manga i think has follow be him killing some demons and going towards Griffith.
Guts it's a lot human than Sanji are... Like i said don't need superpower, to be superhuman!!
They are much more than humans dude, their strength, resistency, is a way higher than a base male human in his best age.

About the legs, it's only a illustration, their legs don't go on fire... And when he fricks, yeah he adds heat(not fire, these two are different) and can do a damage(with can burn the opponent)...So it's no fire, it's heat.
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May 20, 2014 11:49 AM
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Definitely Yasuri Shichika. He doesn't even need a sword, because he's already one. He's a sword that controls itself, therefore he's a sword swordsman.
May 20, 2014 11:52 AM

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I would Say Kiba Yuuto of Highschool DxD, cuz he gives birth to swords. No other man can do that.

May 20, 2014 1:16 PM

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Assuming that every mention of Guts has been in his "normal" form, how would he compare to other strong swordsmen when he dons the Berserker Armor?
And I mean that in the most sexually painful way possible.
May 20, 2014 1:46 PM

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goldslash said:
He can't predict something he can't see. Or perhaps, he can predict, but still he can't have speed to react, to such an blitz attack.
Ichigo paws Mihawk... Just to mention i prefer Op(see my list rate), but Bleach world is overpower than Op world.
There is a reason Mihawk is called "Hawk eyes". He can see things that no normal human can see. He would easily predict Ichigo.
May 20, 2014 1:49 PM

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lupadim said:
goldslash said:
He can't predict something he can't see. Or perhaps, he can predict, but still he can't have speed to react, to such an blitz attack.
Ichigo paws Mihawk... Just to mention i prefer Op(see my list rate), but Bleach world is overpower than Op world.
There is a reason Mihawk is called "Hawk eyes". He can see things that no normal human can see. He would easily predict Ichigo.
Can he predict Shukuchi ?
May 20, 2014 1:50 PM

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lupadim said:
goldslash said:
He can't predict something he can't see. Or perhaps, he can predict, but still he can't have speed to react, to such an blitz attack.
Ichigo paws Mihawk... Just to mention i prefer Op(see my list rate), but Bleach world is overpower than Op world.
There is a reason Mihawk is called "Hawk eyes". He can see things that no normal human can see. He would easily predict Ichigo.


But can he see through the Hiten Mitsurugi?
May 20, 2014 1:52 PM

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But can he see why kids like the taste of Cinnamon Toast Crunch?
May 20, 2014 1:55 PM

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Depends on how you mean the best. A couple characters from One Piece have been shown to cut in half some large things. Mihawk a huge ice berg and Law basically a mountain(though Law was helped by his fruit).
If we go by that (being able to cut large things) then Gin would be the best swordsman considering Gin when his zanpaktou is in bankai can cut multiple buildings in half. http://youtu.be/s_OCOiAIU2Y
Mountain > multiple buildings
WOW I didn't know it was that big a mountain.
May 20, 2014 1:56 PM

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Obviously Shinpachi with his Drunken Sword Style ability.
May 20, 2014 2:28 PM

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Eutass said:
GUTS
Strength/Skills:
He defeated 100 men but nearly died in that fight while Mihawk defeated more than 100 men in a war and didn't even get a scratch.
Personality/Character:
Still Guts is incredible as well He doesn't give up despite all of the despair around him, and that willpower is different from the "heart-of-the-cards" willpower that 99% of shounen characters are given. So Ichigo is out of the question
Overall: Mihawk better swordsman

KIRITO
Strength/Skills:
Disappointed in people who even mention him in this thread. During anime, he defeated many people with mere 'power' but his swords skills were sloppy as ever. Also, his 'power' level was reset in the last episode so he is no match.
Personality/Character:
N/A
(Whatever I will say will be against his personality so I don't want to offend you)
Overall: Mihawk better swordsman

TRUNKS
He quited swordsmanship so he should not be considered a swordsman. (Remember his fight with Cell)

ZORO
Strength/Skills:
He is still far from surpassing Mihawk. He can't even use conquering's Haki yet.
Overall: Mihawk better swordsman

CHARACTERS FROM Rurouni Kenshin
If there is someone who has watched both One Piece (at least till 500ep) and Rurouni Kenshin, please tell if there is anyone who can defeat Mihawk...

But I have seen Rurouni Kenshin OVA. Himura, Kenshin is definitely one of the best swordsman. He deserves so many points for his outstanding character but I am afraid he is not so strong to beat Mihawk. (This is just from OVA)

Miyamoto, MUSHASHI
This is an anime discussion page, don't bring Manga



SHANKS < MIHAWK proof:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NL8DTuFu8E

http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101124223306/onepiece/pt/images/5/56/42121043.gif

Something about Mihawk I'd like to share:


Conclusion:
He is definitely the best and strongest swordsman ever existed! I think I have given enough proof...


totally not biased post :/

Trunks fav sword was destroyed big deal, he is still a swordman an can destroy Mihawk easily with just any normal sword an anyways Trunks isnt the strongest swordman either, we already had some examples of characters that cut a planet, a galaxy or even the universe with their swords, Mihawk cant defeat those guys
May 20, 2014 3:40 PM

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DNyt said:
Erza Scarlet I dont know why I just think she is the best

Erza's strength doesnt come from her swordsmanship. She even has magic and shed be slaughtered by Kenshin.
lupadim said:
Definitely Mihawk.

"Hurr durr, Kirito is faster"

DUDE. KIRITO IS NOT FASTER.

http://youtu.be/uj9hWWLMUOI?t=29s

Can Kirito slice a Buggy in 1000 different parts within 0.5 second?

Kirito dual wields. Nice. Zoro triple wields. And look at Zoro's fight with Mihawk:

http://youtu.be/rmHLTiX5paQ?t=2m8s

Verdict is given. Mihawk is the best.

Mihawk couldnt even hit Luffy in Gear Second who was a HELL OF A LOT slower than Black★Star in Shadow Star: Third Form - Absolute Shadow. So not only was Mifune fighting a faster opponent, but he was able to land hits as well. Mifune > Mihawk.
May 20, 2014 5:17 PM

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Kirito was pretty good, but if any1 in DBZ has a sword then its them. (people, lets be honest here)
May 20, 2014 5:27 PM

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Somebody mentioned Kenpachi. This thread should have ended back then. Why is it still developing?
May 20, 2014 5:36 PM

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Willpower that 99% of shounen characters are given. So Ichigo is out of the question


This is bullshit...The sword of Guts is "given", Kirito has given special stats...
And with consider Trunks and not Ichigo?? DBZ is still worse than Bleach in powergiving.

U just choosing the characters allow/not allowed based on shit taste, there's a lot of swordsman better than Mihawk.
May 20, 2014 6:56 PM

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tsudecimo said:
lupadim said:
Definitely Mihawk.

Killer Bee is definitely better than Mihawk though.


All his blades will be shattered before he even laid a finger on Mihawk.
May 20, 2014 7:01 PM

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Mihawk couldnt even hit Luffy in Gear Second who was a HELL OF A LOT slower than Black★Star in Shadow Star: Third Form - Absolute Shadow. So not only was Mifune fighting a faster opponent, but he was able to land hits as well. Mifune > Mihawk.


It was Luffy's 'special' ability of replying on people around him. No one but only Mihawk recognizes his ability, which automatically makes him the best. So many people helped Luffy during his fight with Mihawk which were Jinbe, Iva, Vista, Crocodile, Daz Bone, Buggy, etc.
May 20, 2014 7:10 PM

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Hmm for me its a contest between Saber, Archer, Zoro, or Mihawk. Tbh any of them could win.
May 20, 2014 7:10 PM

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*insert a swordsman you like*
May 20, 2014 7:11 PM

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Kimp said:
tsudecimo said:
lupadim said:
Definitely Mihawk.

Killer Bee is definitely better than Mihawk though.


All his blades will be shattered before he even laid a finger on Mihawk.


You can't simply 'shatter' durable blades that are infused with Lightning Chakra. Try again.
May 20, 2014 7:16 PM

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Ryukatsuka said:
You can't simply 'shatter' durable blades that are infused with Lightning Chakra. Try again.
You can with the Yoru(said to be the strongest blade in the One Piece world) infused with a lot of buso haki.
May 20, 2014 7:21 PM

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Ryougi Shiki, sorry, but my waifu could kick anybody's (Except Inferno Cop) ass. Mystic Eyes of Death Perception OP.
May 20, 2014 7:25 PM

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IntroverTurtle said:
Ryukatsuka said:
You can't simply 'shatter' durable blades that are infused with Lightning Chakra. Try again.
You can with the Yoru(said to be the strongest blade in the One Piece world) infused with a lot of buso haki.


I fail to see how it being the 'strongest' in the One Piece world purports to it being the 'strongest' everywhere. Mihawk is definitely skilled, no one can deny that, and he might even be able to come out superior in a battle with Killer Bee. But you can't presume a sword fight between them will simply end because of something as superficial as one of their blades shattering, especially when talking about swordsmen of their calliber.
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kanno_ said:

I'd say Mihawk as well. Skill, power, charisma, he has it all. Mihawk doesn't have superpower eyes, iirc he just has exceptionally good eyesight that's all. Not sharingan/byakugan/rinnegan or the likes.


Indeed. I see you have only watched 100 episodes... You will see more of him in coming 400 episodes...

Most people freeze just by looking in his eyes.

I know, I just didn't update mylist for months. :P

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kanno_ said:
Whoa, so Ichigo has limits.... :o


Well he can beat The Truth of FMA then?? I don't think so.
He's no omnipotent, btw, i dindn't complete the anime, but i know aizen is almost omnipotent.

You bet. If Kubo writes the story of Ichigo vs The Truth, it would be revealed that Ichigo actually has the power of God or a descendant of the God itself. Pretty much like the BS in every arc.


OnT:
I'd say Mihawk as well. Skill, power, charisma, he has it all. Mihawk doesn't have superpower eyes, iirc he just has exceptionally good eyesight that's all. Not sharingan/byakugan/rinnegan or the likes.


Is nothing like that... But his eyes are special.
And Haki for you is no power?? So you are wrong.
Mihawk can use BnH, KnH, only not use the Haki of Kings...

So he has some skills to help and improve his sword skills, like Ichigo or another characters have.

Haki is power, but it's not superpower. Haki is described as a power can be found in every living being, especially BnH and KnH which are not something special and can be awakened through training. And why did you bring up haki? That has nothing to do with the "not human" or "superpower eyes" like your claim.
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Ryukatsuka said:
IntroverTurtle said:
Ryukatsuka said:
You can't simply 'shatter' durable blades that are infused with Lightning Chakra. Try again.
You can with the Yoru(said to be the strongest blade in the One Piece world) infused with a lot of buso haki.


I fail to see how it being the 'strongest' in the One Piece world purports to it being the 'strongest' everywhere. Mihawk is definitely skilled, no one can deny that, and he might even be able to come out superior in a battle with Killer Bee. But you can't presume a sword fight between them will simply end because of something as superficial as one of their blades shattering, especially when talking about swordsmen of their calliber.
I never said it was. That statement was just attesting to it's strength. As far as we know Bee's weapons are made like normal swords in that world. Are you saying that the average Naruto world sword is better than the average One Piece world sword?

I never said their fight would end in their swords shattering. This was a 'what if' scenario, could Mihawk shatter Killer Bee's swords. Bee with his swords and lightning chakra and Mihawk with his sword and haki(possibly even using kenbunshoku to find the best time to shatter them).
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dat guy from sword of the stranger.
looked realistic n so.

or smth
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IntroverTurtle said:
Ryukatsuka said:
IntroverTurtle said:
Ryukatsuka said:
You can't simply 'shatter' durable blades that are infused with Lightning Chakra. Try again.
You can with the Yoru(said to be the strongest blade in the One Piece world) infused with a lot of buso haki.


I fail to see how it being the 'strongest' in the One Piece world purports to it being the 'strongest' everywhere. Mihawk is definitely skilled, no one can deny that, and he might even be able to come out superior in a battle with Killer Bee. But you can't presume a sword fight between them will simply end because of something as superficial as one of their blades shattering, especially when talking about swordsmen of their calliber.
I never said it was. That statement was just attesting to it's strength. As far as we know Bee's weapons are made like normal swords in that world. Are you saying that the average Naruto world sword is better than the average One Piece world sword?

I never said their fight would end in their swords shattering. This was a 'what if' scenario, could Mihawk shatter Killer Bee's swords. Bee with his swords and lightning chakra and Mihawk with his sword and haki(possibly even using kenbunshoku to find the best time to shatter them).


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Ryougi Shiki, sorry, but my waifu could kick anybody's (Except Inferno Cop) ass. Mystic Eyes of Death Perception OP.

Can Shiki kill Servants?
And I mean that in the most sexually painful way possible.
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Kenshin Himura

Best swordsman

Best character

Best everything
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