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Jun 26, 2014 7:21 AM

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This anime is a disappointment to me. Because it doesnt FUCKING HAS 25 EPISODES.

For that reason alone, Mahouka Koukou no Rettosei is the best 2014 anime so far for me. Probably DRRR!! 2 will take its place or SAO 2.

But for now, Mahouka Koukou. Dunno if the reason was low budget, but I just cant stand talent wasted, and NGNL would be epic as a 25 episode anime, but no, they had to cut it to half, so Im only gonna put it on my faves after season 2 >.> I love this anime alot. Even though some aspects are stupid - but thats part of the fun >.<
Jun 26, 2014 7:22 AM

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Animaker said:
Mahouka Koukou.

lol
Jun 26, 2014 7:27 AM

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Animaker said:
SAO 2.

lol
Jun 26, 2014 7:59 AM

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The sales have been growing even just before the anime started to air o.o

But anyways... i hope volumes 4-6 will be translated before the 2nd season starts :D
(i found it much more interesting to have read the novels before watch the anime)

Jun 26, 2014 9:18 AM

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Silly Japan and their weird taste.Always animating those with dumb stories.
-Fuuun Ishin Dai☆Shogun
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The heck! Fan service anime through and through.
There's a lot of golden that deserves to be an anime like Shinigami sama 4-nin no kanojo
and the good ones Don't get Season two.
Still waiting for D-Frag S2 !!

Jun 26, 2014 9:22 AM

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CHOOO CHOOO !
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CHOO CHOO


Jun 26, 2014 9:51 AM

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CHOOO CHOOO! *rides the train*
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Jun 26, 2014 9:54 AM

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MANNNNNN CANT WAIT FOR A SECOND SEASON I LOVED THIS EPIC ANIME <3333333333333333333333333
Jun 26, 2014 9:56 AM

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Season 2 or riot!
It was the best anime of the spring season for me.
Jun 26, 2014 10:04 AM

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Coming from somebody who almost dropped this show on the first episode...



[i]CHOO CHOO BITCHES![/i]

ex_necross said:
This show is horrible. Already posted about it on a thread that got deleted because apparently only positive opinions and nuthugging is allowed on the forums. Reminds me of a certain political party during WWII.

I'm glad it's only the west that likes this show, hopefully its sales are low enough to not warrant a season 2. I'm so ready for this shit to just pass over already. This is like a repeat of SnK.

You gave Elfen Lied a 10, thus your opinion is immediately and automatically void. Thanks for your input though, I lol'd.
Jun 26, 2014 10:44 AM

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Walter White says it best. Season 2 or bust.
Jun 26, 2014 10:48 AM

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im pretty sure it will get a second season, the bigger question is how long will we have to wait. Hopefully this will inspire the creaters to push out more content faster fingers crossed
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Jun 26, 2014 11:20 AM

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Verdale said:

You gave Elfen Lied a 10, thus your opinion is immediately and automatically void. Thanks for your input though, I lol'd.


I'll never get tired of people trying to use this argument like it means anything at all. Oh you rated x show well so therefore I doth declare that your opinion is meaningless. This fandom man....this fandom.

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Animaker said:
Mahouka Koukou.

lol


You have to understand most people are dealing from a very limited selection of things that they will even consider as noteworthy anime these days. All of them are pretty much TV series and most of them are Light Novel adaptations I've noticed. There's a pretty skewed bias towards that type of offering. Mahouka is like one of the options to default to, Black Bullet would probably be another and maybe Mekaku City Actors though because all of them are considered to have dropped the ball HARD by their fanbases compared to NGNL it seems like NGNL got a massive thrust forward in popularity along with being good in technical aspects of production like animation and in some cases directing.

Chaika is the only one I know of that's not from an LN source that people are taking some regular notice of and will even consider as a contender for the ever coveted AOTS (TM). Admittedly I can't form an opinion on any of them aside from Mahouka though cause I dropped all of them after 1 episode due to them being kind of....not good.

ex_necross said:
This show is horrible. Already posted about it on a thread that got deleted because apparently only positive opinions and nuthugging is allowed on the forums. Reminds me of a certain political party during WWII.

I'm glad it's only the west that likes this show, hopefully its sales are low enough to not warrant a season 2. I'm so ready for this shit to just pass over already. This is like a repeat of SnK.


Japan likes it too, I've just yet to see any particular examples of people going ballistic over it like a Love Live, Gundam or Madoka.
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It's overrated within this community. It was an entertaining, flashy show but is not the epic it's being made out to be. The actual story content, let alone the characters, are not masterful. This was not an epic in the slightest. To each their own right?

If a second season was in the bag then a teaser would of been shown after the show's end. Say like what Log Horizon did (only recent one that comes to mind). There have been enough titles that have left on a cliffhanger to never see a S2. It's going to be sales dependent as you know. The vast majority of people in this community don't live in Japan and don't buy product so the "top x" rating is meaningless, unfortunately, as a predictor for anything. But I hope it does get a second season or it seems a lot of you are going to kill yourselves over this. I would watch a follow up season (after all I gave it a 8/10) but won't loose sleep if it doesn't. Keep your eye on the BD/DVD monthly report ; )
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The thing is that everytome when there is a series that got a huge ammount of populerity in a relatively short period, the more it seems people come out in order to say they are actually bad. to name a few examples: SAO, NGNL, AOT, all of which have a huge fanbase and yet on mal u see more people talking about how shitty the shows actually are.

These days i don't really take notice of these criticisms any more especially on the MAL discussions, because no matter how popular a series is, it is always the same thing, there are people who solely think that the series does not deserve there ratings because of how popular they got.

NGNL in my opinion is a truly great show, cause it had everything i wanted in a show and it provided me entertainment and isn't that the main point of a show to provide u with entertainment, if u don't like than just say u don't like it, but give a valid reason, do not ridicule a show just because u think it is rated to high
Jun 26, 2014 11:46 AM

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Definitely want that season 2, CHOO CHOO!!!!
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-ShadowClaw- said:
The thing is that everytome when there is a series that got a huge ammount of populerity in a relatively short period, the more it seems people come out in order to say they are actually bad. to name a few examples: SAO, NGNL, AOT, all of which have a huge fanbase and yet on mal u see more people talking about how shitty the shows actually are.

These days i don't really take notice of these criticisms any more especially on the MAL discussions, because no matter how popular a series is, it is always the same thing, there are people who solely think that the series does not deserve there ratings because of how popular they got.

NGNL in my opinion is a truly great show, cause it had everything i wanted in a show and it provided me entertainment and isn't that the main point of a show to provide u with entertainment, if u don't like than just say u don't like it, but give a valid reason, do not ridicule a show just because u think it is rated to high


The weird thing for me is that people act like it's the only entertaining show out that or like its on some plateau of entertainment value well above anything else and that makes up more than the difference of its shortcomings. Its a flawed argument when trying to convince people of it'd I guess greatness or whatever because it assumes everyone finds the same level of sheer thrills out of this show. I'd find it far more entertaining myself if the games were better written and relied less on preordained wins and simple cheats like the characters being able to do pretty much anything when the plot calls for it. Things like the beast girl going into some berserker mode at the end, and Blank having pre calculated literally every possible value to have Steph be there to shoot her, none of that seems clever to me or like there's any sort of struggle involved form either party which takes away from a lot of the entertainment value.

This season I find Haikyuu and Knights of Sidonia (which I'm glad to head just got renewed for another season) very entertaining. They also arguably have better action sequences, better characters, better overarching storyline and world building and more ups and downs that create some real tension and a sense of growth in the cast that further enhanced their ability to keep my attention. Hell Madhouses Hunter x Hunter continues to be more entertaining as well and even manages to have better games than NGNL. If people just watch and consider stuff like Mahouka and Kagerou Project which frankly can be pretty dull then I guess by comparison NGNL wins some grand entertainment value contest this season, but there's more to Spring 2014 than just pre hyped LNs for Aniplex to butcher.
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chooooo chooooo with the No Life Hype Train
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Jun 26, 2014 12:07 PM

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Kaioshin_Sama said:
Verdale said:

You gave Elfen Lied a 10, thus your opinion is immediately and automatically void. Thanks for your input though, I lol'd.


I'll never get tired of people trying to use this argument like it means anything at all. Oh you rated x show well so therefore I doth declare that your opinion is meaningless.

Either you're trolling or the joke went way over your head. In case of the latter, let me explain. I sought out something to bash him for, just to prove that my opinion means nothing, just like his. On top of that, you don't see me going to Elfen Lied forums and bashing the series and their fans there. I'm trying to make a point, but I didn't realize the members here were so rash as to completely miss it.
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I don't frequent anime communities outside of animesuki, so I had no real clue how accepted NGNL was but recently I've seen the train passing by, and it's getting pretty big.
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Verdale said:
Kaioshin_Sama said:


I'll never get tired of people trying to use this argument like it means anything at all. Oh you rated x show well so therefore I doth declare that your opinion is meaningless.

Either you're trolling or the joke went way over your head. In case of the latter, let me explain. I sought out something to bash him for, just to prove that my opinion means nothing, just like his. On top of that, you don't see me going to Elfen Lied forums and bashing the series and their fans there. I'm trying to make a point, but I didn't realize the members here were so rash as to completely miss it.


So you basically set out to do what people do almost constantly and not in jest thinking you're making some grand point. MAL logic at its finest I suppose. Okay then noted......:/
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"Dogs can't talk. If a dog says it can talk, then it is lying."


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We have a winner.
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*hug noises*

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Jun 26, 2014 1:04 PM

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Thank goodness I'm getting off the the train because this anime is over hype and overrated. People these day will reach for anything that resemble SAO and crown it right away.
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Keeko-Chan said:


We have a winner.
Jun 26, 2014 1:10 PM

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Now has entered the top 10 of TV Series, and 16th overall :)
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Kaioshin_Sama said:
Verdale said:

Either you're trolling or the joke went way over your head. In case of the latter, let me explain. I sought out something to bash him for, just to prove that my opinion means nothing, just like his. On top of that, you don't see me going to Elfen Lied forums and bashing the series and their fans there. I'm trying to make a point, but I didn't realize the members here were so rash as to completely miss it.


So you basically set out to do what people do almost constantly and not in jest thinking you're making some grand point. MAL logic at its finest I suppose. Okay then noted......:/

To be honest, I didn't think anyone would even read it other than the person it was directed to, so I can hardly call it a "grand point". And it's not the first time I've used that line before, as it usually goes unanswered. And for the record, I don't have anything against Elfen Lied, but I do struggle to see how it could be labeled as a "masterpiece".
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Verdale said:
Kaioshin_Sama said:


So you basically set out to do what people do almost constantly and not in jest thinking you're making some grand point. MAL logic at its finest I suppose. Okay then noted......:/

To be honest, I didn't think anyone would even read it other than the person it was directed to, so I can hardly call it a "grand point". And it's not the first time I've used that line before, as it usually goes unanswered. And for the record, I don't have anything against Elfen Lied, but I do struggle to see how it could be labeled as a "masterpiece".


What does that have to do with anything though?
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Now has entered the top 10 of TV Series, and 16th overall :)


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eXtacy67 said:
Now has entered the top 10 of TV Series, and 16th overall :)


Yeah I told people it would. Do people understand how hype works yet?
Jun 26, 2014 1:27 PM

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as long as we get almost naked steph in every episode, I'm in.
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No stopping of this train! Second season must happen!
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This has become like Neogaf, if anyone is familiar with that community.
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Kaioshin_Sama said:
Verdale said:

You gave Elfen Lied a 10, thus your opinion is immediately and automatically void. Thanks for your input though, I lol'd.


I'll never get tired of people trying to use this argument like it means anything at all. Oh you rated x show well so therefore I doth declare that your opinion is meaningless. This fandom man....this fandom.


It's always Elfen Lied when someone picks on a show I rated. This is like the 10th time in the few months I've been actively posting here. It's like troll bait.

That being said, Elfen Lied is 10x better than NGNL. It's the only show with ecchi I can stand.

I cringe thinking of all the anime NGNL has overtaken in rating on this site. Just need to stop thinking about it before I have an aneurism lol.

Newprimus said:
This has become like Neogaf, if anyone is familiar with that community.

Neogaf has its ups and its downs. Much like 4chan, its really silly to consider it one community. MAL isn't so much this way, there are different "groups" (people who like bad anime and people who like good anime :P ) but we aren't as separated.
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I actually dont want a S2, i legitly want to know how much of the Mal population would dropped if this were to happen :3.
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ex_necross said:
Kaioshin_Sama said:


I'll never get tired of people trying to use this argument like it means anything at all. Oh you rated x show well so therefore I doth declare that your opinion is meaningless. This fandom man....this fandom.



You have to understand most people are dealing from a very limited selection of things that they will even consider as noteworthy anime these days. All of them are pretty much TV series and most of them are Light Novel adaptations I've noticed. There's a pretty skewed bias towards that type of offering. Mahouka is like one of the options to default to, Black Bullet would probably be another and maybe Mekaku City Actors though because all of them are considered to have dropped the ball HARD by their fanbases compared to NGNL it seems like NGNL got a massive thrust forward in popularity along with being good in technical aspects of production like animation and in some cases directing.

Chaika is the only one I know of that's not from an LN source that people are taking some regular notice of and will even consider as a contender for the ever coveted AOTS (TM). Admittedly I can't form an opinion on any of them aside from Mahouka though cause I dropped all of them after 1 episode due to them being kind of....not good.



Japan likes it too, I've just yet to see any particular examples of people going ballistic over it like a Love Live, Gundam or Madoka.


It's always Elfen Lied when someone picks on a show I rated. This is like the 10th time in the few months I've been actively posting here. It's like troll bait.

That being said, Elfen Lied is 10x better than NGNL.


Interesting, wondering why that one in particular cause yeah I swear I've seen people pull that one on you a couple times before. Interesting enough I don't think I've ever had that one pulled on me so much as I've seen it pulled on others by defensive fan types, but then again most of my high rated stuff is well over a decade old and people have probably never even heard of it. I can just imagine people going, "Oh yeah well you rated........wait....what....okay never mind 0_o" if they've ever tried to pull it on me.

I mean I personally wouldn't rate Elfen Lied 10/10, but I wouldn't rate this 10/10 either and plus you're not me and neither are the people that watch this show and think it's an all time masterpiece so it stands to reason there might be a difference there. I think the last anime I ended up going with a 10/10 was Hunter x Hunter after 100 episodes of just rock solid material and before that it'd be Lupin III Mine no Fujiko. After that the only other shows this century that have manged the feat are Millennium Actress and Gaogaigar Final the latter of which this show wishes it was in terms of sheer fun factor, but realistically I never expect anything to reach that level of highs ever again. I guess to me that OVA would be what NGNL seems to be to it's fanbase.

Also worth mentioning, of the 18 anime ever to manage a 10/10 for me 6 are TV series, 10 are movies and 2 are OVA's. I think it's just because I tend to find anime films more well realized in terms of writing and directing and not to mention more purposeful than your average TV series, most of which top out at 8/10 at absolute best for me.
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Kaioshin_Sama said:

Interesting, wondering why that one in particular cause yeah I swear I've seen people pull that one on you a couple times before. Interesting enough I don't think I've ever had that one pulled on me so much as I've seen it pulled on others by defensive fan types, but then again most of my high rated stuff is well over a decade old and people have probably never even heard of it. I can just imagine people going, "Oh yeah well you rated........wait....what....okay never mind 0_o" if they've ever tried to pull it on me.

I mean I personally wouldn't rate Elfen Lied 10/10, but I wouldn't rate this 10/10 either and plus you're not me and neither are the people that watch this show and think it's an all time masterpiece so it stands to reason there might be a difference there.


I think I remember that. Was it on a Captain Earth thread? Wait, Valverave? Probably Valverave.
Elfen Lied is a lot like Evangelion in the sense that people are either hate it or love it. I've seen a lot of people getting called out for Evangelion fanboying too lol.

And yeah, most of my high ratings are 20th century shows. The most recent being Unicorn.
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ex_necross said:
Kaioshin_Sama said:

Interesting, wondering why that one in particular cause yeah I swear I've seen people pull that one on you a couple times before. Interesting enough I don't think I've ever had that one pulled on me so much as I've seen it pulled on others by defensive fan types, but then again most of my high rated stuff is well over a decade old and people have probably never even heard of it. I can just imagine people going, "Oh yeah well you rated........wait....what....okay never mind 0_o" if they've ever tried to pull it on me.

I mean I personally wouldn't rate Elfen Lied 10/10, but I wouldn't rate this 10/10 either and plus you're not me and neither are the people that watch this show and think it's an all time masterpiece so it stands to reason there might be a difference there.


I think I remember that. Was it on a Captain Earth thread? Wait, Valverave? Probably Valverave.
Elfen Lied is a lot like Evangelion in the sense that people are either hate it or love it. I've seen a lot of people getting called out for Evangelion fanboying too lol.

And yeah, most of my high ratings are 20th century shows. The most recent being Unicorn.


You know what I totally forgot about Unicorn for some crazy reason. Make that the latest one instead. Anyway I thought Eva was a pretty interesting show. It's not my favorite of the 90's by any stretch, that would be Vision of Escaflowne, but it's definitely always a welcome watch or inclusion in the latest Super Robot Wars. Pretty timeless franchise really, though not quite like Gundam.

By the way wasn't it on the NGNL forum it happened to you? Honestly I don't really remember cause a lot of posts on these forums just start to blend together after a while at the best of times, but point is I definitely recall it. Anyway what brings a fellow mecha fan around these parts anyway? Just here to see people lose their shit over this show for a little bit longer and comment on it like it's a live stream like I am? :p
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Kaioshin_Sama said:
ex_necross said:


I think I remember that. Was it on a Captain Earth thread? Wait, Valverave? Probably Valverave.
Elfen Lied is a lot like Evangelion in the sense that people are either hate it or love it. I've seen a lot of people getting called out for Evangelion fanboying too lol.

And yeah, most of my high ratings are 20th century shows. The most recent being Unicorn.


You know what I totally forgot about Unicorn for some crazy reason. Make that the latest one instead. Anyway I thought Eva was a pretty interesting show. It's not my favorite of the 90's by any stretch, that would be Vision of Escaflowne, but it's definitely always a welcome watch or inclusion in the latest Super Robot Wars. Pretty timeless franchise really, though not quite like Gundam.

By the way wasn't it on the NGNL forum it happened to you? Honestly I don't really remember cause a lot of posts on these forums just start to blend together after a while at the best of times, but point is I definitely recall it.


The Elfen Lied thing happened a lot, just not sure this particular case. I'm thinking it was S2 final episode of Valvrave, the guy had a Lightning avatar from FFXIII (irony!).

Anyway none of that matters I guess. I just recently finished Escaflowne and I was going to give it a 9.. great 90's mecha but I was looking at my other 9's and it didn't seem quite there. Great show either way. I guess that's how I end up rating things, comparing their quality with other shows I've already rated.

Btw did you guys know that No Game No Life is better than Cowboy Bebop, Monster, Mushishi and Gurren Lagann? Amazing !! :^)
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ex_necross said:
Kaioshin_Sama said:


You know what I totally forgot about Unicorn for some crazy reason. Make that the latest one instead. Anyway I thought Eva was a pretty interesting show. It's not my favorite of the 90's by any stretch, that would be Vision of Escaflowne, but it's definitely always a welcome watch or inclusion in the latest Super Robot Wars. Pretty timeless franchise really, though not quite like Gundam.

By the way wasn't it on the NGNL forum it happened to you? Honestly I don't really remember cause a lot of posts on these forums just start to blend together after a while at the best of times, but point is I definitely recall it.


The Elfen Lied thing happened a lot, just not sure this particular case. I'm thinking it was S2 final episode of Valvrave, the guy had a Lightning avatar from FFXIII (irony!).

Anyway none of that matters I guess. I just recently finished Escaflowne and I was going to give it a 9.. great 90's mecha but I was looking at my other 9's and it didn't seem quite there. Great show either way. I guess that's how I end up rating things, comparing their quality with other shows I've already rated.


I've come to have certain expectations of users based on the avatar they have, but to me totally judging them based off of that just seems like kind of the same thing as what people do with the whole "you rated x show score y" thing. The best I can continue to do is just take people at the words they say to me and to others, which can be a real challenge at times in and of itself because of the previously mentioned posts blurring together phenomenon that's particularly strong on MAL.

Yeah I do that comparison thing a bit too, but I also try to let the show just speak for itself on it's own as well and then try to marry the two perspective of comparative standard and standalone appreciation and come up with a final score. This is because I don't think it's entirely fair to current shows if I'm always holding them up (probably) unfavorably against old favorites, which is something I've been guilty of in the past and realized the folly of in recent years. Just like I try to avoid falling into the recency bias and hyped based scoring that I see a lot of others as subscribing to I also have tried to make an effort to avoid being that old fogey type viewer that never gives anything new a real chance to prove itself and always complains about how anime ain't what it used to be.

I'd kind of like to one day be that guy that people can come to and ask for a recommendation and whose opinion people trust so that hopefully I can give them an answer that will fit their interests and leanings (again trying to recognize that not everybody's definition of good is universal), but admittedly I still don't watch nearly enough anime to be able to do to well in that role.
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Btw did you guys know that No Game No Life is better than Cowboy Bebop, Monster, Mushishi and Gurren Lagann? Amazing !! :^)


Of those you listed I've only watched Cowboy Bebop (I haven't watched Gurren Lagann yes, I'm a sinner, blahblah :p), and I loved that show too. I wouldn't class it as better or worse than NGNL. Both are different stories, and both tell their stories with excellence.

This is why I generally don't like numerical ratings. It gives the impression that one must be better than the other, when in reality the truth is that the two are not competing, but exist in the same camp of spectacular work.
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Kaioshin_Sama said:

I've come to have certain expectations of users based on the avatar they have, but to me totally judging them based off of that just seems like kind of the same thing as what people do with the whole "you rated x show score y" thing. The best I can continue to do is just take people at the words they say to me and to others, which can be a real challenge at times in and of itself because of the previously mentioned posts blurring together phenomenon that's particularly strong on MAL.

Yeah I do that comparison thing a bit too, but I also try to let the show just speak for itself on it's own as well and then try to marry the two perspective of comparative standard and standalone appreciation and come up with a final score. This is because I don't think it's entirely fair to current shows if I'm always holding them up (probably) unfavorably against old favorites, which is something I've been guilty of in the past and realized the folly of in recent years. Just like I try to avoid falling into the recency bias and hyped based scoring that I see a lot of others as subscribing to I also have tried to make an effort to avoid being that old fogey type viewer that never gives anything new a real chance to prove itself and always complains about how anime ain't what it used to be.

I'd kind of like to one day be that guy that people can come to and ask for a recommendation and whose opinion people trust so that hopefully I can give them an answer that will fit their interests and leanings (again trying to recognize that not everybody's definition of good is universal), but admittedly I still don't watch nearly enough anime to be able to do to well in that role.


Oh, no judging someone based on their avatar would be the silliest thing ever, I just happened to remember them by it. Its the same for everyone. I would not have remembered your name, but I would know you as the guy with the Gihren Zabi picture lol.

Speaking of avatars, I would love for MAL to let me change mine, I've been trying to for a good month and it's becoming quite obnoxious. (something with uploading gifs and file extensions and site problems)

You seem to know a good anime when you see one, but you must realize you are definitely in the veteran group (I'd consider myself there too), most people on this site only want the newest and hottest stuff.
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I'll never get tired of people trying to use this argument like it means anything at all. Oh you rated x show well so therefore I doth declare that your opinion is meaningless. This fandom man....this fandom.


It's always Elfen Lied when someone picks on a show I rated. This is like the 10th time in the few months I've been actively posting here. It's like troll bait.

That being said, Elfen Lied is 10x better than NGNL. It's the only show with ecchi I can stand.

I cringe thinking of all the anime NGNL has overtaken in rating on this site. Just need to stop thinking about it before I have an aneurism lol.


The only rankings I particularly care about are my own on my own list since I can't vote for other people and I just recognize by now how overwhelmingly hype and recency (I'm not sure the exact number but the vast majority of them pretty much aired within the last few years) plays into aggregate rankings. There's also just so many shows in the top 200 that are 5/10 or less caliber for me (Angel Beats for example I found utterly incomprehensible and unwatchable, Log Horizon I couldn't even finish the first episode it looked so bad and was just a complete clusterfuck) and which I remember just having the most hype in the season that they aired in so I just equate that with being why they are there. It just kind of is what it is, which is why I keep telling friends not to use MAL's ranking list as a gauge for recommendation.

Anyway it's only going to go higher from here as the community push for the top 10 overall continues so I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.
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Kaioshin_Sama said:

The only rankings I particularly care about are my own on my own list since I can't vote for other people

Wish that were the case for me. I get into an ungodly amount of arguments on here. Secretly I must love to argue, lol.
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Kaioshin_Sama said:

The only rankings I particularly care about are my own on my own list since I can't vote for other people

Wish that were the case for me. I get into an ungodly amount of arguments on here. Secretly I must love to argue, lol.


What is it the Billy Bob Thornton characters says at the end of Princess Mononoke? "Oh well....you can't argue with fools". Something like that? Anyway that's become my philosophy when it comes to community opinions on anime since everybody is just so uncompromising and defensive these days.

Look at it this way, there's even hentai OVA's in the top 200. That should tell you something right there. It's best used a raw sample of what is currently popular, not what you should find good. Even though some people would like to think of it that way it's clearly not what it's about.
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-ShadowClaw- said:
The thing is that everytome when there is a series that got a huge ammount of populerity in a relatively short period, the more it seems people come out in order to say they are actually bad. to name a few examples: SAO, NGNL, AOT, all of which have a huge fanbase and yet on mal u see more people talking about how shitty the shows actually are.

These days i don't really take notice of these criticisms any more especially on the MAL discussions, because no matter how popular a series is, it is always the same thing, there are people who solely think that the series does not deserve there ratings because of how popular they got.

NGNL in my opinion is a truly great show, cause it had everything i wanted in a show and it provided me entertainment and isn't that the main point of a show to provide u with entertainment, if u don't like than just say u don't like it, but give a valid reason, do not ridicule a show just because u think it is rated to high


The weird thing for me is that people act like it's the only entertaining show out that or like its on some plateau of entertainment value well above anything else and that makes up more than the difference of its shortcomings. Its a flawed argument when trying to convince people of it'd I guess greatness or whatever because it assumes everyone finds the same level of sheer thrills out of this show. I'd find it far more entertaining myself if the games were better written and relied less on preordained wins and simple cheats like the characters being able to do pretty much anything when the plot calls for it. Things like the beast girl going into some berserker mode at the end, and Blank having pre calculated literally every possible value to have Steph be there to shoot her, none of that seems clever to me or like there's any sort of struggle involved form either party which takes away from a lot of the entertainment value.

This season I find Haikyuu and Knights of Sidonia (which I'm glad to head just got renewed for another season) very entertaining. They also arguably have better action sequences, better characters, better overarching storyline and world building and more ups and downs that create some real tension and a sense of growth in the cast that further enhanced their ability to keep my attention. Hell Madhouses Hunter x Hunter continues to be more entertaining as well and even manages to have better games than NGNL. If people just watch and consider stuff like Mahouka and Kagerou Project which frankly can be pretty dull then I guess by comparison NGNL wins some grand entertainment value contest this season, but there's more to Spring 2014 than just pre hyped LNs for Aniplex to butcher.


Also doesn't give you any reason to say "NGNL is BAD" and a Season two hyping topic its like you're giving yourself to a pack of hungry wolves.
I love NGNL and I wish I can control the masses and say "Stop being arrogant Ya'll" Can't stop anyone from stating their own opinions and I'm being a Hypocrite right now because I can't stop you too.
Anyway I also love Sidonia and I've been reading the manga even way before the anime came out.Though I can't understand what they're doing most of the time in the Manga.The art is so bad :l.Haven't watched the anime though.Been bored with anime recently an been playing Jrpgs instead.

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We have a winner.



Would there be a mass cult suicide on MAL if NGNL was officially canceled somehow?
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